THEYMOS ITS ENOUGH !!!!!!!!!

[itomarketing]

My opinion is that I'm not going to waste time reading your huge, rambly, low-content posts which you post everywhere.

Skimming:
 - Dash is a shitcoin, like the vast majority of altcoins, but I've heard absolutely nothing which makes me think that it's a scam on the whole.
 - Lauda has engaged in some behavior which I consider unethical or sub-optimal, but she's also done several good things. It's not for me to decide how her actions weigh out on net.
 - Suchmoon is an excellent forum member.

You claim its not on you to decide how her (you mean his) actions weigh out or not.
Funny you have no problems that exectly that group which is always the same group which is creating trouble,hate,scams etc tags thousands of people destroying all creditbility of serious crypto people who are leaving that board and letting that crap stay.

I haven't seen a single intervention from you when that group destroyed legit member just based on their so called "assumption" .
A friend of mine who is the owner of a big swedish crypto company got defamed as scammer by them just because he did not agree on their actions.
Where were you as ADMIN to forbid this kind of actions ?
Haven't been Lauda accused and proofen as guilty of extortion ?

Why is it always the same group of people who is causing that amount of trouble which made hundred of good crypto people leave that board?
You have already the whole board against them.High ranked members who stood up to fight their bad actions which resulted into a massiv
negativ trust abuse .Hero members following from 23 positiv trust to a negativ 146 trust just because they don't agree with their actions.
You make it public that you don't agree with them you get crashed.
I even saw tule trying to fight them ?What happened to him ?Did he just left the board thinking its not worth his time anymore ?I would love to support him with my real account but what would that mean?It would mean my legendary account would be also instantly destroyed by that group.So everyone is sitting silent and just watching what is happening.
I also read tules postings and calling a guy who warned and proofed scam coins and who is involved in some very successfull projects seems for me the board is out of control.I didn't saw any intervention from you to stop that.I also do not see that you have a problem that legit high involved crypto people get defamed.
You just sit silent and DO NOTHING.
THE FORUM IS TIRED OF THESE MANIPULATORS AND OF YOU JUST SITTING AND DOING NOTHING AGAINST IT.
HOW MANY MORE LEGIT PEOPLE NEED TO BE DEFAMED AND LEAVING BEFORE YOU START MOVING YOUR ASS.
These abusive people already have their own topics on Reddit,Facebook,Instagram and other crypto boards talking how bitcointalk is out of any rules.

THEYMOS I AM A LEGENADARY ON THIS BOARD AND I FUCKING NEED TO USE A SECOND ACCOUNT TO PROTECT MYSELF AGAINST THEIR NEGATIV TRUST ABUSE BECAUSE THATS WHAT THEY DO TO DESTROY SOMEBODY AND MAKE HIM SILENT.

YOU ARE JUST GIVING PERMISSION TO DO SO.
WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER LEGENDARY WHO AGREE WITH ME ON THAT TOPIC VIA CLOSED CHATS BUT WHO WILL NEVER POST IT OPENLY BEING AFRAID OF THE ABUSE THEY WOULD RECEIVE.

YOU GAVE PERMISSION TO CREATE A PLATFORM WHERE HIGH RANKED MEMBERS ARE AFRAID TO POST AGAINST THAT KNOWN GROUP AND YOU KEEP WATCHING HOW EACH DAY SOMEBODY NEW GETS DESTROYED BY THEM

YOU ARE A SHAME IN MY EYES SINCE THAT FORUM BEGAN SO GREAT AS A DECENTRALISED PLACE WHERE NOONE CAN DESTROY SOMEBODY ELSE BUT THESE CHANGED THANKS TO YOUR SILENT PERMISSION.
NEGATIV FEEDBACK IS A WEAPON FOR SILENCiNG PEOPLE AND YOU ALLOW TO USE IT MASSIVLY.

YOUR FORUM HAS NOTHING TO DO ANYMORE WITH THE PRINCIPALES IT HAD AT THE BEGINNING.
IT HAS NOW A CENTRALISED POWER WHICH TRIES TO CHANGE EVERYTHING IN THEIR OWN FAVOUR AND THINKING.


I read the thread from blaze talking with other DT members Lauda included which tule exposed where they wrote officaly that they want to force ICO projects to only accept their approved bounty members and should a project owner not be willing to agree on their terms they will
call him officaly a scammer and force him to accept their own terms.

IS THAT WHAT THE FORUM WAS GROUNDED ON ?WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU CLOSING YOUR EYES ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THATS A CLEAR THREAT TO PROJECT OWNERS YOU TAKE OUR MEMBERS WHERE WE GET A CUT OR YOU WILL BE DEFAMED AS SCAMMERS.

WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU THEYMOS NOT REACTING ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT BUT STILL KEEPING THESE PEOPLE AS MODS AND DT ?


And to the vulture waiting to discredit me because they don't like that post.
Karma is a bitch.

[suchmoon]

Let me guess... Thule?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5059200.0

[Lauda]

You forgot to include Lauda in the title.

[DireWolfM14]

Why are posting from this account?

If it's because you're in the penalty box for incessant trolling (only guessing,) this could be considered ban evasion, and turn your tempban into a permaban.  Don't make a shitty situation a total clusterfuck.  Take a break from the forum, I really think it'll help you put things into perspective.

Let me guess... Thule?

I could be wrong, but I think it's cryptohunter.

[Lauda]

I could be wrong, but I think it's cryptohunter.

If it is, then it might be worthy of a stronger ban for talking to himself.

@cryptohunter
-snip-

[suchmoon]

Let me guess... Thule?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5059200.0

I could be wrong, but I think it's cryptohunter.

No, I'm quite certain it's Thule. Look at punctuation spacing, paragraph structure, "negativ trust", reference to Sweden.

The only thing that doesn't match is calling himself a "LEGENADARY" [sp] (Thule is a Sr. Member) but that's expected with narcissists.


So Thule (I hope you don't mind me calling you that) - how's that lawsuit against Vod going?

[DireWolfM14]

No, I'm quite certain it's Thule.

Well, my advice to cryptohunter stands.   

[cryptohunter]

No, I'm quite certain it's Thule.

Well, my advice to cryptohunter stands.  

Your advice is dire as I have demonstrated clearly on several other occasions.

You will find many other legends are unhappy with the gang tactics on here.

Notice which swarms of people come here and accuse me with no evidence.

I have no need to post under and alt and never will.  I like to crush you all with facts and observable events over and over. What a waste doing it under and alt.

I bring evidence to substantiate my claims. You guys as per usual bring nothing.

I have no sock puppets that is for the pharmacist aka huge black woman LOL

[itomarketing]

@theymos

Possible (or real) scams and Trust ratings are not moderated (to prevent moderation abuse).

Aren't DT members getting indirectly Moderators when their ratings are seen by default by everyone where people ratings on the DT's are not seen ?You talk about preventing abuse by mods by switching that power to DT members ?

Feedback isn't moderated (except for obvious cases such as pure advertising, hundreds of identical empty/gibberish reports on one user) for the same reason as scams - too much room for abuse.

Some DT's members have a hundred negativ feedback of their abuse and still a single negativ trust of them is more powerfull than all these negativ trust abuse feedbacks ?
You call that abuse prevention ?
How many times has Lauda been proofen guilty and tagged negativly ?And these were real bad staff but still people watching their posts won't see it by default.But members who have been against their behavior are now market with 150 negativ trust as scammers which is being seen by default by everyone just because they didn't agree with the groups opinion?

Is it for you not a trust system abuse ?The one guy with serious accusations and proof has a good image and the guy who never scammed anyone but voiced his opinion is now seen as the biggest scammer on this board?

Something is total wrong here and if you don't see that problem here than you shouldn't be the admin here of that forum even you are the owner or at least change the name of that forum to Scammer Support Forum


Open your fucking eyes

You will find many other legends are unhappy with the gang tactics on here

Not just them.I know some DT members who are very unhappy too and at least 1 moderator who was activly helping one guy who has been abused by them.

[cryptohunter]

I could be wrong, but I think it's cryptohunter.

If it is, then it might be worthy of a stronger ban for talking to himself.

@cryptohunter
-snip-

Stronger ban??

Hmmm who have you been talking too pussy cat. I wonder why that would be getting discussed with you......hmmm

What about a provable liar and trust abuser?  what kind of ban would they get taking into consideration being implicated in an extortion scheme and misappropriation of escrow funds?

Why would I be getting any kind of ban.

Presentation of facts and observable events may warrant red trust by a liar and trust abuser like yourself but I will see a reason for any ban that I receive.

[itomarketing]

@cryptohunter

I really like your signature.
I will talk to my webdesigner if its possible to create signatures which will display bbcodes which will be taken from a DB.

If yes i will create one with red colour and ask everyone who has been abused by that group to add that signature to create more attention to these abusers.

The response would be surely big.

[Chosen Username]

all of us legends that post anonymous against dt are ch or qs

[cryptohunter]

@cryptohunter

I really like your signature.
I will talk to my webdesigner if its possible to create signatures which will display bbcodes which will be taken from a DB.

If yes i will create one with red colour and ask everyone who has been abused by that group to add that signature to create more attention to these abusers.

The response would be surely big.

Thanks that would be great. I am thinking of starting a union on this board. However now that theymos went against my advice of totally separating DT and Merit sources he has firmly placed DT in the hands of merit cyclers it would seem impossible for the systems to self regulate at all. All i see happening now is merit cyclers club (mostly the only ones to meet the merit threshold for the 2 key positions) will just recruit those they can be sure of support from.

A union will actually be quite effective against this group though because if we stick to posting facts and observable events demonstrating wrong doing and untrustworthy actions eventually we will eventually keep up enough pressure to force them to either abandon the board or remove any trust abuse they have conducted. This is the fairest way and the only way left open to us. If we lose our main accounts then it will be essential for friends to be asked to join whom have similar views to ourselves. Ie that every person should be treated fairly and judged on the real merit of their contributions here.

Of course we can not represent people that are proven untrustworthy but for real victims of their DT abuse we can provide support and also force these factual and observable abuses over and over until they are forced to debate the red trust and prove it is sensible and reasonable or remove it.

I know a few people who have contacted me have said they can not dare post under their real accounts because they fear that they will be destroyed. i fully understand this and do not blame you at all. Just beware you will all be accused of being me with no evidence provided at all and likely be red trusted on the mere suspicion.

I may also start a full DT listing with each member having a full facts based review of actions/non actions to factual observable events presented to them that they refuse to review or respond with a sensible response to.

This to me makes them untrustworthy also. I mean if you went to the police with factual evidence of someone breaking into your home or committing a crime and they flat out refused to view the evidence you can assume they are corrupt and complicit in the crime.

[itomarketing]

qs has no need to post with new accounts.


@cryptohunter what you think about that

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5100092.new#new

Lets begin to build our own community driven trust system.

Lets fight back with creativity which every abusers fears since its unpredictable.

[owlcatz]

qs has no need to post with new accounts.

You really don't know QS well, do you?

@cryptohunter what you think about that

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5100092.new#new

Lets begin to build our own community driven trust system.

What's the point, it's already done?

[cryptohunter]

qs has no need to post with new accounts.

You really don't know QS well, do you?

@cryptohunter what you think about that

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5100092.new#new

Lets begin to build our own community driven trust system.

What's the point, it's already done?

I have clearly demonstrated with observable events and facts that this current system is broken and infested with

1. liars
2. racist sock puppet sig spamming greedy paid2post addicts
3. trust abusers
4. weak and complicit users who will not stand against proven abusers and liars.
5. That merit is clearly cycled and abused and that now for some reason the ones obviously cycling it are the key positions for the trust system. LOL  just check bpip for each user and then look a their fans and receiver look at their ganging up on posts and then look who included and exclude who on DT lists. It is quite ridiculous.


Now they try to bring forth some censorship if all of that is not enough to prevent relevant, on topic facts and observable events being presented in meta if it does not fit with their agenda. I see sounds legit.

there is a need for a facts based objective trust system and a union to stand against corrupt and broken system controllers.

I suggest locating and listing their abuses (clear abuses) and then we will make a list of the DT members that have demonstrated untrustworthy behaviour in clear black and white. Over time the more they abuse and we can present facts and observable instances of this abuse then we can discredit them and rightly so.

I mean not everyone knows everything that has taken place on this board.

I was not aware until someone told me recently that the pharmacist was using a sock puppet Huge Black Woman to generate racist and offensive to some trolling to spam his other sig for btc dust.  To me that is untrustworthy. To see him lecturing on trolling or racist stuff or sig spamming is completely sickening.

I mean not to mention having such a greedy person as a system controller in both systems of control for paid2post and trading is quite insulting to the board.

[yahoo62278]

qs has no need to post with new accounts.

QS has more accounts then you have satoshis

[Chosen Username]

now that theymos went against my advice of totally separating DT and Merit sources he has firmly placed DT in the hands of merit cyclers

tis is a dissapointment for me too but theymos did just dt1 exclude tman and actmyname

[actmyname]

now that theymos went against my advice of totally separating DT and Merit sources he has firmly placed DT in the hands of merit cyclers

tis is a dissapointment for me too but theymos did just dt1 exclude tman and actmyname

Seems ironic considering the^rm_os excluded me for being too loose with my tags against merit abuse.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[cryptohunter]

qs has no need to post with new accounts.

QS has more accounts then you have satoshis

Proof?  do you think you should bring unsubstantiated claims ? I mean as a campaign manager? That is a seriously fragile position. If QS or anyone else started to spread unsubstantiated rumours about yourself to say new projects or their investors that put you in an untrustworthy light it could reflect on their project.

I mean think of it like this... If i found out a campaign manager was later demonstrated to spread unsubstantiated claims to discredit another user who was trying to post accurate facts and observable events that demonstrated untrustworthy behaviour then that campaign could by those actions be reasoned to be untrustworthy. I mean if he pokes his nose in seemingly to defend proven liars, system abusers and even sock puppet sig spammers then that does not look good at all.

Do you have some evidence of this or just spreading this kind of stuff for fun?

I am not saying if he does or does not.

Can you present your facts here please. So that I can analyse and locate these sock puppets he is using that you know of.