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January 22, 2019, 09:50:43 AM
Last edit: January 22, 2019, 10:50:20 PM by iasenko
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If your account was hacked/breached and you want a DT member to tag it, this is the place to report it.

Use the following format:

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Hacked account:  iasenko
Old wallet address: 1PJBktMEwFFVwxRNM1CcJDGmyuhWFx3tbM
Link to a unedited post with the old address : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.msg41112783#msg41112783
Signed message from this address with the current date:

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
This is an example how a report should be made. The signend message should contain the following.
"I am the original owner of the account > iasenko. Today is 22.01.19"
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1PJBktMEwFFVwxRNM1CcJDGmyuhWFx3tbM
IH8bee3ZCSqtGV1HaYwjjpxmaJQAP+CP8B5dd9drzN7VVGoVqZvUipDDksm+2Cj93sADChkCexl8HDD/jgPxOZ0=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

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Here is a template to use :

Code:
[b]Hacked account[/b]:  [b][url=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=XXXXXX]XXXXX[/url][/b]
[b]Old wallet address[/b]: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
[b]Link to a unedited post with the old address : XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX[/b]
[b]Signed message from this address with the current date:
XXXXXXXXXXXXXX[/b]



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January 22, 2019, 12:36:33 PM
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~snip~

Sorry, why paint a trust stolen account if you sent a message from your account and signed it with a bitcoin address? If you still have this bitcoin address, you can also ask to restore your account. Or account recovery no longer works?

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January 22, 2019, 12:42:20 PM
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~snip~

Sorry, why paint a trust stolen account if you sent a message from your account and signed it with a bitcoin address? If you still have this bitcoin address, you can also ask to restore your account. Or account recovery no longer works?

Imagine that a scammer steals green trust account and engages his shady business right away.
By the time you get your old account back, many can suffer.

On the other side, if you cannot proof the ownership of your previous hacked/stolen account, then there is no way for me to tag someone without enough evidence.

Signing a message is the easiest way to secure your account.

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January 22, 2019, 12:52:38 PM
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Thanks iasenko. That's a good idea. This will really help to minimize fraud from hacked accounts!

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January 22, 2019, 01:02:22 PM
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As an alternative to Bitcoin signed message, can we use PGP signed message instead?
Just in case I lost the access to my wallet but still have my PGP details.
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January 22, 2019, 01:02:58 PM
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Thanks iasenko. That's a good idea. This will really help to minimize fraud from hacked accounts!

Of course if you have other proofs than the signed message, we can always look at them but sure, they have to proof your previous ownership of the account.

Which reminds me that I have to put up a warning message in my Bitcointalk's guide to all the newbies to sign a message in a way to protect their account.
I'll put it on the to-do list Smiley

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January 22, 2019, 08:36:15 PM
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If you your account was hacked/breached and you want a DT member to tag it, this is the place to report it.
Sorry for this reply but I was away from the forum last days and did not read the new updates regarding account recovery.
When you are signing a message. Global Moderators/Administrators will be able to lock that account? You will not be able to send messages or make posts "in other words useless account."
Tagging accounts will not be useful unless admins don’t lock that account.

I want to put my DT powers in good use Smiley
It's good to know that. From a member who is ranked up to Fullmember to DT member.  Smiley Smiley

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January 22, 2019, 10:58:46 PM
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Thanks man for correcting me, not many people do it these days.

AFAIK when you try to recover the account, you end up on a waiting list/queue, in the meantime the account is operating and if by chance is green trust account, can be abused even for a few hours.

So to avoid the waiting time you just report it here.
Sometimes the "new" owner have no interest in using tagged account and may return it to the original owner.
If I can take some load off the admins/mods I'll be happy to help Wink

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January 23, 2019, 12:11:04 AM
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Thanks man for correcting me, not many people do it these days.

AFAIK when you try to recover the account, you end up on a waiting list/queue, in the meantime the account is operating and if by chance is green trust account, can be abused even for a few hours.

So to avoid the waiting time you just report it here.
Sometimes the "new" owner have no interest in using tagged account and may return it to the original owner.
If I can take some load off the admins/mods I'll be happy to help Wink
You can just lock your account if it's been hacked. If account is locked, hacker can't use it and there are no point to tag such account. So, I don't think this thread is really needed. If user can't lock his hacked account because he don't have acces to email of registration, it's less likely that theymos will recover such account as I understand.

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January 23, 2019, 12:41:52 AM
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You can just lock your account if it's been hacked. If account is locked, hacker can't use it and there are no point to tag such account. So, I don't think this thread is really needed. If user can't lock his hacked account because he don't have acces to email of registration, it's less likely that theymos will recover such account as I understand.
But what if you didn't check your email within 14 days!!
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Your Bitcoin Forum (bitcointalk.org) email address was just changed from xx@xx to yy@yy by IP address xyz. If you did not do this, then you can visit the following link within 14 days in order to lock the account:...
After 14 days the link will expire and it will be impossible to lock the hacked account. OP offers a good alternative by red tagging the account after proving its ownership.

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January 23, 2019, 07:57:24 AM
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You can just lock your account if it's been hacked. If account is locked, hacker can't use it and there are no point to tag such account. So, I don't think this thread is really needed. If user can't lock his hacked account because he don't have acces to email of registration, it's less likely that theymos will recover such account as I understand.

You are probably right, but some people come here to look for help without knowing what to do, they don't know how to lock accounts, etc. What I offer is alternative. It's always good to have alternatives, if nobody applies, it's OK. If I manage to help someone, it will be good too.



If more people think that this thread is unnecessary I'll close it. Hope to hear some DTs thoughts too.

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January 23, 2019, 11:51:11 AM
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I don't think it's necessary.
Why should anyone look for this thread, to follow a template, to post about his hacked account, to get Red Tag ?

Hacked accounts need to be locked or restored to original owners, or tagged if involved in Shady behaviors.

Any user with valid proof that he owns an account, and got hacked, have few options which i find sufficient:
- Ownership change becomes more complicated, so not that easy to loose control over your account, and the process take one week long. Moreover, if you missed your account and your email for that week, a link sent to the original email (yours) with validity of 14 days to lock the account even after/during ownership change.
- Recoveries of lost/hacked accounts are moving again since about a month. Check my thread about All the Ownership-Changed and Restored accounts to see queued/completed restoration processes. Clear to see that the administration is doing a good job after the new system implementation and anybody can discuss his issue with it.
- If a hacked user can sign a message from an unedited btc address and have full control of the original email, he won't need to contact a DT for trust but can easly restore it.
- If a hacked user has solid proofs about his account ownership but not acceptable by the administaration (something like he can sign a message from an altcoin address (not btc) or not have a full control over the original email) he can directly contact one of the moderators to lock the account until ownership verification or start a Meta thread to discuss the issue furtherly.
[Even a user can sign a Btc address but have no control over the original email, he unlikely be able to restore his account back, because accounts can only be restored to the original ones, AFAIK]

There is almost solutions to the majority of frequent cases, so this thread remains useless, until someone want to use it.

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January 23, 2019, 12:41:57 PM
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If more people think that this thread is unnecessary I'll close it. Hope to hear some DTs thoughts too.
If this thread is going to help just one member then it shouldn't be locked.
As I mentioned before, this thread is really useful for those who got their accounts hacked and didn't lock them within 14 days.

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