TheBeardedBaby's DT Negative/Positive feedback discussion thread.

[onex_team]

Good day, my name is Maxim Zorin
I am the CEO of OneExBit project
You we put a negative review in the subject https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5129693.new#new
let me explain the situation
we are one of the few projects with his finished product on the masternode the market. we do not deceive anyone, our faces are open, we develop a good and high-quality product anyone can download our terminal and use it. https://oneexbit.com/
about trading bots, we have bots, but bots trade 100 percent of projects and exchanges.
Those people who are trying to throw mud at us are real scammers who offered us to collect a lot of money and the abyss without opening faces.

we refused them and now their task is to destroy our project.
here razoblachitelny document which I mean they published

If there is an evos investor here, then the information below is for you.

dear evos investors - they are scammers
this link tells the story of how the scammers tried to deceive the Onex team and presents the data of these people

https://docs.google.com/document/d/13ZkpE72Zk7JaT_CeyHBGH8L3cDrfcZY8_HOF30RHSDY/edit

I ask you to understand the situation and remove from us the stigma of fraud, we are living people in a working product, we do not deceive anyone.

that's why they're trying to mud us.

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[RoomNET]

As I understand it, iasenko blames EVERY project, is it threatening them or what? Using the fact that he has a "bloated" reputation? Got a lot of posts in BT? so things are not done.


I read BT more, but decided to answer.

[TheBeardedBaby]

Unfortunately, my free time the past few days was not enough.
I'm still investigating the case, the files that onex_team provided are in Russian, and my Russian is not very good, or at least not at this level to be certain that the provided evidence are enough.
Therefore I'm calling other Russian-speaking DT members to help me out with the evidence.
 

As I understand it, iasenko blames EVERY project, is it threatening them or what? Using the fact that he has a "bloated" reputation? Got a lot of posts in BT? so things are not done.


I read BT more, but decided to answer.

I'm not sure what you are talking about but anyway, no matter what reputation you think I have, all I aim to do is to protect all those newbies from being scammed. I don't want to ruin anyone's reputation, and I'm trying to base my judgment only on facts.
So my personal opinion is that every project using fake volumes is not to be trusted, but if there is a public acceptance of such behavior, I won't enforce my opinion to anyone.

[RoomNET]

Unfortunately, my free time the past few days was not enough.
I'm still investigating the case, the files that onex_team provided are in Russian, and my Russian is not very good, or at least not at this level to be certain that the provided evidence are enough.
Therefore I'm calling other Russian-speaking DT members to help me out with the evidence.
 

As I understand it, iasenko blames EVERY project, is it threatening them or what? Using the fact that he has a "bloated" reputation? Got a lot of posts in BT? so things are not done.


I read BT more, but decided to answer.

I'm not sure what you are talking about but anyway, no matter what reputation you think I have, all I aim to do is to protect all those newbies from being scammed. I don't want to ruin anyone's reputation, and I'm trying to base my judgment only on facts.
So my personal opinion is that every project using fake volumes is not to be trusted, but if there is a public acceptance of such behavior, I won't enforce my opinion to anyone.

You personally IMPROVE your opinion to everyone around you, you just shout about this project at every corner and you are well prepared, I would not be surprised if you make a new thread on the forum to confuse everyone, tell me what happened, you were quiet, suddenly such an explosion of negativity towards them. this is absolutely not normal, you are hiding something.

[Vod]

You personally IMPROVE your opinion to everyone around you, you just shout about this project at every corner and you are well prepared, I would not be surprised if you make a new thread on the forum to confuse everyone, tell me what happened, you were quiet, suddenly such an explosion of negativity towards them. this is absolutely not normal, you are hiding something.

If you don't strongly believe that, why should we?

[TheBeardedBaby]

You personally IMPROVE your opinion to everyone around you, you just shout about this project at every corner and you are well prepared, I would not be surprised if you make a new thread on the forum to confuse everyone, tell me what happened, you were quiet, suddenly such an explosion of negativity towards them. this is absolutely not normal, you are hiding something.

First. How many threads i have started regarding the case - 0. FACT!
Second. How many thread I have mentioned the onex_team?? 2 - one in the Scam Accusation section and here.FACT!
Third. How the hell I exploded as I posted max 3-4 posts on this case as 1 of them was a respond to you?
And last, what could I possibly hide, you tell me?

There is a scam accusation thread in the section, I read it, dig a bit in the case, saw the facts and consider the account to be endangering the newbies. Tagged it and post here why I tagged the account + gave both sides tribune to post their accusations/explanations. That's all. I just want everything to be public, and all my decisions as DT to be crystal clear to everyone.
I'm know that not everyone can be happy, but I do my best.

[TheBeardedBaby]

After all I couldn't find more strong evidence of scamy behaviour, except the fake training volumes, which seems to be a common practice among this type of services therefore I replaced my red tag with netural one.

[kryptonio]

Unfortunately read this...
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5102050.msg51307148#msg51307148

I've made a screenshot of mentioned post for me and my collegues investors




Can you explain? Do you admit of FAKE BOT's VOLUMES?

[Vod]

Unfotunately read this...
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5102050.msg51307148#msg51307148

I've made a screenshot of mentioned post for me and my collegues investors




Can you explain? Do you admit of FAKE BOT's VOLUMES?

Honestly, any company that would hire a CEO that posts like that, is not one to be taken seriously.  :/

[onex_team]

Unfotunately read this...
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5102050.msg51307148#msg51307148

I've made a screenshot of mentioned post for me and my collegues investors




Can you explain? Do you admit of FAKE BOT's VOLUMES?

why don't you post the full screenshot?
and silent about these links?

https://docs.google.com/document/d/13ZkpE72Zk7JaT_CeyHBGH8L3cDrfcZY8_HOF30RHSDY/edit HuhHuhHuh

[kryptonio]

New day and the same parctices.
Again you are cheating investors and shows FAKE bots volumes!

I have read all your announcements and all googledocs - I see your were connected to another scam project.
In case you are planing to do the same you can continue that kind of malicious practices - make fake volumes and involve investors who are not tricky enough to see the truth on bitshares explorer .

If you are building the really good case of Masternode coins - you need to be fair with your investors and do 2 things:
1. do not ban them for simple questions - like you ban me
2. IMMEDIATELY STOP any FAKE volumes activities - just plain volumes of human trades



PS I have DMed you and Neftegrad to exlain my ban - but you replied inadequately...

[kryptonio]

Honestly, any company that would hire a CEO that posts like that, is not one to be taken seriously.  :/

If it is a real account of CEO - I would fully agree with you, sir!
But I cannot understand mr. Iasenko's position:  CEO plead guilty on FAKE volumes and mr. Iasenko returned his reputation?
Frauding your investors with a FAKE liquidity of project became LEGIT?  Have I missed something? ?

[zixuenko]

Honestly, any company that would hire a CEO that posts like that, is not one to be taken seriously.  :/

If it is a real account of CEO - I would fully agree with you, sir!
But I cannot understand mr. Iasenko's position:  CEO plead guilty on FAKE volumes and mr. Iasenko returned his reputation?
Frauding your investors with a FAKE liquidity of project became LEGIT?  Have I missed something? ?

in the official server discord exchange Cryptobridge discussed bots and trading bots.
https://discord.gg/bf3qhH

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Fog7fFgStEVEbKmHSZtvK7bJObUzsma4
""UnicornCeгoдня в 16:09
@everyone Hey guys, we are trying to figure out how we can make CryptoBridge more accessible for Market Makers. We would like to open a discussion on this to discover what our market makers, possibly you, needs in terms of API's. What third party trading bots are you currently using? And on what exchanges are you using them? We would appreciate your feedback! ""

you specially registered on this forum to denigrate the Onex project?
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1B6Rga8NsjwIpPqjg8kYyHwuVeXTbATKz

Developers offer to the market makers project free bots.
Why are you hammering this project? do you have a personal interest?
take the top projects from the Exchange CryptoBridge all the volumes are wound up, why do not you write to the developers of other projects?
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1KhNqv0-kLY3DcGI93rfR8sU1r0tGmpQE
https://drive.google.com/open?id=13I3s9DHBzF7krb6tM5ZOmpRBuGjHVUy5
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1cE0jisccANrW5DhL9oxztwK__gRr9dyi
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1j2u7Xzug025u7JhRKWyPZRq7o5tKcrin
https://drive.google.com/open?id=16UODi1GW_mPDaRCSj8QEB27gZ9yX1DYA
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Q3n8YSlDqKBTZDtsGT1hAXWbOMQHw87d
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1lto4JWQUvZmusqSXOUf6qYjIzn-c_EHt
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1KhNqv0-kLY3DcGI93rfR8sU1r0tGmpQE
https://drive.google.com/open?id=13I3s9DHBzF7krb6tM5ZOmpRBuGjHVUy5

please do not manipulate the community of honest people.
go to the official group of cryptocurrency exchanges and ask questions there.

Your manipulation of people is not appropriate.

[asche]

Another brand new account to post this non sense.

The defense saying "others are doing it too" does not hold.

Whoever is doing it is manipulating investors. You are the one manipulating here, do not try to inverse the roles.

[onex_team]

🌞Dear all,

🔹Some of you are concerned that we might be artificially inflating the trading volumes of ONEX on CryptoBridge. Just to clarify: one must distinguish between the normal practice of automated trading and fraudulent manipulations. Like the majority of popular crypto projects and exchanges, we do use bots. This practice is not only supported by the exchange – it is vital to the crypto exchange business. Indeed, any exchange wants to both be at the top of the ratings by volume and maximize its revenues, which come from transaction fees. That’s why all exchanges offer their own free bots.

🔹Analyze the trading structure of any popular exchange and you will find that it owes 90% of the volume to bots. What’s more, we can say without exaggeration that 99% of blockchain projects use automated trading tools. AI is the prime mover of crypto trading, and it’s only fair and reasonable. Thanks to bots, traders don’t have to spend days and nights staring into the screen and harming their health – instead, they can focus on what really matters in life.

🔹The OneExBit team always strives to stay on the front line of the crypto industry, so we are developing our own advanced trading bots. We are currently testing a few of them, and soon they will become available for purchase on our platform. OneExBit bots will become yet another tool for you to maximize your income. Stay tuned!

[asche]

🌞Dear all,

🔹Some of you are concerned that we might be artificially inflating the trading volumes of ONEX on CryptoBridge. Just to clarify: one must distinguish between the normal practice of automated trading and fraudulent manipulations. Like the majority of popular crypto projects and exchanges, we do use bots. This practice is not only supported by the exchange – it is vital to the crypto exchange business. Indeed, any exchange wants to both be at the top of the ratings by volume and maximize its revenues, which come from transaction fees. That’s why all exchanges offer their own free bots.

🔹Analyze the trading structure of any popular exchange and you will find that it owes 90% of the volume to bots. What’s more, we can say without exaggeration that 99% of blockchain projects use automated trading tools. AI is the prime mover of crypto trading, and it’s only fair and reasonable. Thanks to bots, traders don’t have to spend days and nights staring into the screen and harming their health – instead, they can focus on what really matters in life.

🔹The OneExBit team always strives to stay on the front line of the crypto industry, so we are developing our own advanced trading bots. We are currently testing a few of them, and soon they will become available for purchase on our platform. OneExBit bots will become yet another tool for you to maximize your income. Stay tuned!

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[TheBeardedBaby]

@onex_team, keep in mind that I removed the red tag only because the presented proofs were not strong enough, but that doesn't mean the if more proof is presented, you are on the save side.

[Vod]

🌞Dear all,

🔹Some of you are concerned that we might be artificially inflating the trading volumes of ONEX on CryptoBridge.

This is Iasenko's DT Negative/Positive feedback discussion thread.   This is not about ONEX.

Your "site" has been discussed and negative feedback has been removed.   Go advertise somewhere else please.

[TheBeardedBaby]

I just deleted my custom trust list in other words I just resigned from my DT position.
This is my way to protest against that political madness happening right now in the forum.

The breaking point was the confrontation between theymos and Lauda which escalated to such level, I guess it's already around meta and the reputation board,  which made me rethink my position in the DTs.
I don't want to choose a side in this case, both parties made mistakes but that was not the way to find solution. Fighting, using the DTs as a weapon and do everything hidden in PMs.

For me everything should be public, especially such confrontations, so I do not agree with both parties.

So people please, for the sake of the community, settle down your problems once and for all.

It's almost 2AM here, and I'm awake only because of this political drama.

P.S. I'll still serve the community one way or another.

[asche]

For me everything should be public, especially such confrontations, so I do not agree with both parties.

I believe none of them intended this to be non public, since they contacted a huge list of people.

The point being they just wanted to ensure that every recipient had knowledge of that message.

As you can see it quickly became publics and a lot of meta drama is already going on related to this.