[303 weeks] [Updated Nov 2 LoyceV's Trust list viewer - Create your own!

[marlboroza]

My only problem is that the squiggly ("~") at the beginning of the username is used in the trustlist maintenance to indicate distrust of a member, so in that regard, it seems potentially confusing to the system to be using that squiggly.. at least in the beginning of the username...that seems to be why TMAN is redflagging ~DefaultTrust.  Another reason, of course, is that sometimes members will bolster their trustlist by either including or excluding defaulttrust from their trust list, so having that "~DefaultTrust" as a username could inadvertently cause members to trust that member when they had not intended to do so.

It is very simple:



Excluding or including account ~DefaultTrust won't do anything to "default trust", however, I won't recommend including them, your trust network page will freeze because of things mentioned by LoyceV.

[LoyceV]

Update:

53. http://loyce.club/trust/2020-01-18_Sat_05.16h

I expect the navigation bar at the top to be updated either Sunday evening or Monday morning. Until then, you'll have to navigate to the above URL because you can't go to the last page from older pages (I noticed the update is sometimes overlooked because of this).

I now have a full year of Trust list history


I noticed a minor inaccuracy: one username wasn't on my DT1-list because of a name change. This problem existed last week already.
I'm not going to update this now, it'll be fixed next week.

[LoyceV]

Update:

54. http://loyce.club/trust/2020-01-25_Sat_05.12h

It was updated hours ago, but I forgot to post here.

I'm working on improving the performance of updating the navigation bar on top. This has been on my Todo since I created it, and every week it takes exponentially more processing power to complete. I worked on this past week, but needed this week's new data for further testing. If all goes well, next week the navigation bar should be updated on Saturday morning.

[Foxpup]

Looks like everyone's favourite feline is back in the game.

[LoyceV]

I've finished re-writing the code for the top-navigation-bar. It now "only" takes 6 hours to update instead of 2 days, and from now on the required processing power only increases at a linear instead of exponential rate.
Out of this 6 hours, 2 hours is for updating the newest version, the remaining 4 hours is for updating the older weeks. This should make it easier to quickly browse the latest Trust list viewer.

It's kind of a dirty code now, so please let me know if anything goes wrong with the navigation bar. So far, I haven't found any bugs.

[Timelord2o67]

Apologies if this has been asked before, is there any chance those users who have been black-baned from voting be shown in a different colour such as grey please?

Some of the H8 conglomerate of shill/sockpuppets are on the list as trusting me, but given their votes are meaningless, can they be greyed out if possible? (Even if their profile is clicked on so it doesn't turn purple).

Thanks.

[LoyceV]

Apologies if this has been asked before, is there any chance those users who have been black-baned from voting be shown in a different colour such as grey please?

My Trust list viewer isn't meant to see DT1-votes, so I'm not going to add a blacklist for DT1-voting.
It is included though on my DT1-election: Rank up pipeline: All known blacklisted users don't count for voting (see that topic for the list).

Some of the H8 conglomerate of shill/sockpuppets are on the list as trusting me, but given their votes are meaningless, can they be greyed out if possible? (Even if their profile is clicked on so it doesn't turn purple).

They're excluded from your DT1-election: Rank up pipeline.

Update:

55. http://loyce.club/trust/2020-02-01_Sat_05.15h

Let's see how long it takes for the navigation bar to update

[PrimeNumber7]

I've finished re-writing the code for the top-navigation-bar. It now "only" takes 6 hours to update instead of 2 days, and from now on the required processing power only increases at a linear instead of exponential rate.

This is much longer than it should. You should consider using jinja templates versus having millions of individual files, each with their own HTML. This would result in your server/computer generating the HTML at the time a user accesses a page instead of when you update your data. It would also mean you can update your data ~instantly.

I don't know how heavily your site is used, but my guess is 95%+ of your HTML files are never accessed by anyone. If someone accesses a particular page n times, your server would need to generate the HTML n times. I think most likely, this will result in total less processing time, but even if not the case, the computational power required to generate one HTML page is nominal, so you will likely not ever have a backlog of things to compute.

[LoyceV]

I don't know how heavily your site is used, but my guess is 95%+ of your HTML files are never accessed by anyone. If someone accesses a particular page n times, your server would need to generate the HTML n times.

I know I should switch to some database, and it's been suggested many times, but I simply don't have the time to learn how to do it and change everything. I don't really mind the 6 hours computation time, because it doesn't take much of my time. Currently, my Merit data analysis takes much more processing time, and that would be the next thing to make more manageable, but there too, I need the time.
Meanwhile, I just started another project dealing with 50 million files, for which I'm taking a slightly different approach. And I have another project I want to start. It would probably be good to start using a database at least for new projects, but realistically, it probably won't happen.

Let's see how long it takes for the navigation bar to update

It's done already, not bad The previous weeks will be updated in the coming hours.

[Timelord2o67]

I may not have explained myself properly, what I was meaning is when I'm looking at other people's trust pages, it'd be nice to see at a glance who the black-banned UID's are that either support or oppose any given user.

Thanks for reading.

[LoyceV]

I may not have explained myself properly, what I was meaning is when I'm looking at other people's trust pages, it'd be nice to see at a glance who the black-banned UID's are that either support or oppose any given user.

I got what you meant I just don't think it's worth adding.

I found a bug:

Trust list for: SlipstreamStore (Trust: awaiting update) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2020-02-01_Sat_05.15h)
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SlipstreamStore Trusts these users' judgement:
-

SlipstreamStore Distrusts these users' judgement:
-

SlipstreamStore's judgement is Trusted by:
-

~SlipstreamStore's judgement is Distrusted by:
-

Source: LoyceV's Trust list viewer.
Get your own Trust list in BBCode at loyce.club/trust.

From the data dump:

Code:

SlipstreamStore->theslimmyguy

Account theslimmyguy was created just a day before the data dump, and my list of usernames failed to update.

It's a Newbie without posts, so I'm not going to fix this now. I've added an alert in case this happens again in the future.

[GreatArkansas]

Hi @LoyceV, I found some minor problems here. As I told you that I am playing to code some bot based on your Trust list viewer, I just recently discovered this.

Code:

http://loyce.club/trust/latestversion.txt
[b]content[/b] http://loyce.club/trust/2020-02-08_Sat_01.13h/

But in your index here: http://loyce.club/trust/
The latest one is 2020-02-01_Sat_05.15h/.
The path 2020-02-08_Sat_01.13h/ not yet existing.
I think you mistyped or forgot to change something.

[LoyceV]

I think you mistyped or forgot to change something.

You caught a rare moment: I accidentally ran my update too early (before theymos' data dump), so it used last week's data and (for the first time) used my fully automated update. So I removed the 2020-02-08_Sat_01.13h from the server again, but forgot about bots using latestversion.txt.
I expect the correct update to be ready in about 90 minutes. Done!

Update:

56. http://loyce.club/trust/2020-02-08_Sat_07.44h

It'll take about 1 hour to update the top-navigation bar for this week, and from there my update will work backwards updating the navigation for previous weeks. This will take about 7 hours. Until then, if the latest page (week 56) isn't available yet: go to week 56 first, and continue from there.

[LoyceV]

This update is not ready yet:

57. http://loyce.club/trust/2020-02-15_Sat_06.10h

But I have plans today, and didn't want to keep you guys waiting for your Saturday morning newspaper. If all goes well, the above link will work in about an hour.
The top navigation bar should be updated in the hours after that. If it doesn't work, complain to LoyceMobile, who can't help you at all

[LoyceV]

Update:

58. http://loyce.club/trust/2020-02-22_Sat_06.05h

Give it an hour for the top-navigation-bar to show up, and ~7 hours to completely update navigation for older weeks.

[LoyceV]

Update:

59. http://loyce.club/trust/2020-02-29_Sat_06.37h

Reload the page in about an hour to use the top-navigation-bar.

The easiest way to find the right profile, is through BPIP. For instance, for mine, go to Profile for LoyceV - BPIP.org, then click Trust list viewer for: LoyceV.

[LoyceV]

In another topic, andulolika pointed at outdated data on a banned user:

I forgot to update my local list since moving to AWS, this whole year my Trust list viewer has been using banned-data from December 27, 2019.
Sorry for that, it'll be fixed on next Saturday's update.

[LoyceV]

Update:

60. http://loyce.club/trust/2020-03-07_Sat_06.19h

As always, wait a bit for the top-navigation-bar to update.

This is an interesting change of heart:

Trust list for: Thule (Trust: +0 / =2 / -11) (25 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2020-03-07_Sat_06.19h)
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Thule Trusts these users' judgement:
10. Removed bones261 (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (15) 749 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
10. Removed LoyceV (Trust: +26 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (58) 4908 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
10. Removed marlboroza (Trust: +12 / =1 / -1) (1384 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

Thule Distrusts these users' judgement:
14. NEW ~bones261 (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (15) 749 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
15. NEW ~LoyceV (Trust: +26 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (58) 4908 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
19. NEW ~marlboroza (Trust: +12 / =1 / -1) (1384 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

[Timelord2067]

...

What weeks were 9/9/2019, 10/14/2019 and 10/21/2019 ??

About 35, 40/41??


Are the weeks always seven days, or, has there been a shorter or longer period at all?

Thanks.

[LoyceV]

What weeks were 9/9/2019, 10/14/2019 and 10/21/2019 ??

About 35, 40/41??

That's about right.

Are the weeks always seven days, or, has there been a shorter or longer period at all?

Theymos' Trust data dump is updated on Saturdays, I usually update my Trust list viewer a few hours after that. However, there have been weeks in which I was one or more days late, so if my update happened on for instance a Sunday, the data is still from the Saturday (morning) before that.