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May 11, 2019, 04:46:48 PM
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Nice to see decentralized gambling taking off gradually on eos blockchain.  How does it compare to normal Centralized gambling sites? How easy is it to use? Anyone with good review?
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May 11, 2019, 08:08:22 PM
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There is always a problem with decentralized casinos and exchanges and so forth about marketing. Now the team already has a lot bet token and they are basically done with their job. They have built the platform and basically said "here play this" and left, they do not have to work another single day to earn money because from now on they can just collect dividends for the rest of their life (or this websites life) and since they didn't had to wager anything they are basically making profits risk free.

Now you are asking them to spend money on marketing from their own pockets, should they do it? Yeah why not. Do they have to? Absolutely not. They can just leave the marketing to the gamblers and investors as well since this is a "decentralized" exchange which means they are not bound to do anything anymore.
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May 11, 2019, 11:02:30 PM
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There is always a problem with decentralized casinos and exchanges and so forth about marketing. Now the team already has a lot bet token and they are basically done with their job. They have built the platform and basically said "here play this" and left, they do not have to work another single day to earn money because from now on they can just collect dividends for the rest of their life (or this websites life) and since they didn't had to wager anything they are basically making profits risk free.

Now you are asking them to spend money on marketing from their own pockets, should they do it? Yeah why not. Do they have to? Absolutely not. They can just leave the marketing to the gamblers and investors as well since this is a "decentralized" exchange which means they are not bound to do anything anymore.

Yes, that's true but it depends if they want to continue to the growth and increased success of the business they've worked for, Usually some do and they may invest to later reap bigger profits. In a way it's just like any other long term investment.





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May 12, 2019, 01:54:17 AM
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Your logic is flawed!

The key question is how many of the current players are gamblers and how many play to get the BET fantasy tokens?

Those who played for BET fantasy tokens will logically stop after no more tokens will be issued and the house of cards will collapse! Cheesy

The casino offer itself can not compete much!

Based on the logic, game-protect is right in that there will be nothing to do if all the fantasy tokens are distributed out with no more being issued - logically, you'd inevitably collapse.  

That's nonsense... the BET tokens are just an extra.
You appear to be a schizophrenic person!

You claim the BET tokens are just an extra, but use it big and fat to promote EOSBet! Cheesy




By the time the BET tokens are all distributed it will have grown and matured big enough to run like any other online casino out there.
The drugs you take must be good! Cheesy

But in the reality EOSBet has a poor offer of games and can not compete with well established casinos and sportsbooks!

A good casino does not need the false and misleading promise that its players will receive a dividend for life when using it!


The fact they are actually the only provably fair open source casino out there alone will give them more and more players. Why would a player play at a casino of which he cannot verify it's fairness while at EOSBet he can...
You appear to live behind the moon, but our experience has shown that 99,9% of the players do not care whether or not a casino is provably fair, who the operator is and how they can enforce its money if the casino will scam them!

If provably fair is your argument, why the false and misleading nonsense that players will receive a dividend for life?


On top of that they release good tech/features and the games that are out are working good with a nice UI (even though UI is a matter of taste and everyone's different). As you can read in the latest update.
I have seen many casinos and what EOSBet offers is poor! Do you have live dealer games? Do you have sportsbetting?

Dice house edge 1,5% LMAO! Many Dice sites take only 1% or even less. So you charge 50% more than others and then you give a fraction back in form of BET fantasy tokens! Grin


They pay attention to the fundamentals of good marketing and are expending the DEV team to start delivering faster games now fundamentals are in the works.
The dividends for live nonsense is fundamentals of good marketing?

Or do you mean paid brain washers like you is fundamentals of good marketing?
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May 12, 2019, 05:00:41 AM
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okay I'm up to listen to you game-protect. how is it nonsense for a project to distribute dividends for life?

i'm not sure either how to check where they do have provably fair games but the only I played in EOSbet was the dice. can you show to us too how they are not fair?

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May 12, 2019, 09:17:40 AM
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okay I'm up to listen to you game-protect. how is it nonsense for a project to distribute dividends for life?

i'm not sure either how to check where they do have provably fair games but the only I played in EOSbet was the dice. can you show to us too how they are not fair?

I am a bit worried because the volume on the site has dropped so much lately. Hopefully the marketing continues with the new coins added.
I blocked game-protect while ago for obvious trolling.
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May 12, 2019, 04:09:58 PM
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okay I'm up to listen to you game-protect. how is it nonsense for a project to distribute dividends for life?

i'm not sure either how to check where they do have provably fair games but the only I played in EOSbet was the dice. can you show to us too how they are not fair?

Yeah please don't feed game-protect and ignore like sockpuppet1911 does, when you give him undeniable proof he still says that's not proof and starting asking the same basic questions again that he can actually just verify himself.

To react to your post... he can't proof it's not fair because it is. It's 100% on-chain. And they haven open sourced their code. A 3rd party has also done a statistical analysis of over a million bets on the blockchain and it proof mathematical proof that the outcome is random. On top of that a 3rd party (Hacken) reviewed their code and even posted an article about it as a case study. Also they are fully licensed by the Gaming Curacao and are officially recognized as an Casino.

Open sourced code: https://gitlab.com/EOSBetCasino/eosbetdice_public
Statistical analysis: https://medium.com/@cc32d9/fairness-report-for-eosbet-dice-e96651fc6e8b
Case study: https://hacken.io/case-study-hacken-smart-contract-audit-of-eosbet
License: Click on the Gaming Curacao logo at the bottom of their site as it will verify the url as licensed.

EOSBet is the most provably fair casino I've seen. However, just watch him deny all these things as proof. Even saying the license is not real because it's not supported by the government or something. While he could just go to http://www.gaming-curacao.com the official website and read this on the homepage:

As a Master Licence holder issued by the Government of Curacao, we are able to issue qualified eGaming operators with an online gaming license, allowing them to legally conduct their eGaming activities from within the Island Territory of Curacao.

He will just deny all of this and start asking dumb questions again which have been answer numerous times already. He has no live, so better to not react to his posts and maybe he'll go away.

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May 12, 2019, 05:37:54 PM
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okay I'm up to listen to you game-protect. how is it nonsense for a project to distribute dividends for life?
Because you bet one time a certain amount to get a certain number of BET tokens.

Thereafter you will get dividends for life without assisting or contributing anything to the casino!

In the real world you can get dividends only during the time when you invested money or actively contribute to the operation!


i'm not sure either how to check where they do have provably fair games but the only I played in EOSbet was the dice. can you show to us too how they are not fair?
I understand that signature spammers do not have the time to read my posts, but if you do you will see I never said that their games are not fair!

They commit a huge investment fraud, what role does it play whether or not their 2 games are fair?
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May 13, 2019, 01:27:23 AM
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okay I'm up to listen to you game-protect. how is it nonsense for a project to distribute dividends for life?

Because you bet one time a certain amount to get a certain number of BET tokens.

Thereafter you will get dividends for life without assisting or contributing anything to the casino!

In the real world you can get dividends only during the time when you invested money or actively contribute to the operation!


i'm not sure either how to check where they do have provably fair games but the only I played in EOSbet was the dice. can you show to us too how they are not fair?
I understand that signature spammers do not have the time to read my posts, but if you do you will see I never said that their games are not fair!

They commit a huge investment fraud, what role does it play whether or not their 2 games are fair?

isn't cryptocurrency considered currency which is also considered money and that BET is also money? if you agree to this then they have invested money to the project thus entitled to receiving dividends.

if its an investment fraud, what do you suggest them to do? shutdown?
can you also post these messages on bethash threadafter all they offer the same thing.


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May 13, 2019, 04:43:27 AM
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We do not know how much of the current base is because they want to get bet tokens and we do not know how much of it is just gamblers. However considering the fact that even after all of bet tokens are issued and they have owners don't you think there are other casinos out there? Doesn't people play on casinos just for the fun of it without getting anything in return?

I mean does anyone get anything for gambling at primedice? No, but they continue to play there right? So, why isn't it possible that after all bet tokens are issued people would continue to gamble here? They could literally do the biggest marketing in the world with ALL bet tokens taking a cut on dividends to spend it on marketing budget and having awesome promotions. I still think the wagered amount is way too big for how little dividends are given out but that is another issue and not like yours.
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May 13, 2019, 09:37:34 AM
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We do not know how much of the current base is because they want to get bet tokens and we do not know how much of it is just gamblers. However considering the fact that even after all of bet tokens are issued and they have owners don't you think there are other casinos out there? Doesn't people play on casinos just for the fun of it without getting anything in return?

I mean does anyone get anything for gambling at primedice? No, but they continue to play there right? So, why isn't it possible that after all bet tokens are issued people would continue to gamble here? They could literally do the biggest marketing in the world with ALL bet tokens taking a cut on dividends to spend it on marketing budget and having awesome promotions. I still think the wagered amount is way too big for how little dividends are given out but that is another issue and not like yours.

I agree here, and there is no reason why they wouldn't by that time as they own 30% of the tokens, there (and everyone elses) dividends would only benefit more from it.

About the wagered amount being way too high... it's actually only a bonus on top of the normal reward if you win. EOSBet has set the dropratio not with "investing" in mind, even though some people do. You even get those tokens when you lost a wager. My advice is just gamble because you like to gamble. Try to beat the odds and win some EOS, BTC or LTC. Consider the BET tokens just a bonus as it's meant to be. Ever small dividend you get because of that is also just a bonus.

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May 13, 2019, 11:33:03 AM
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We do not know how much of the current base is because they want to get bet tokens and we do not know how much of it is just gamblers. However considering the fact that even after all of bet tokens are issued and they have owners don't you think there are other casinos out there? Doesn't people play on casinos just for the fun of it without getting anything in return?

I mean does anyone get anything for gambling at primedice? No, but they continue to play there right? So, why isn't it possible that after all bet tokens are issued people would continue to gamble here? They could literally do the biggest marketing in the world with ALL bet tokens taking a cut on dividends to spend it on marketing budget and having awesome promotions. I still think the wagered amount is way too big for how little dividends are given out but that is another issue and not like yours.
I am not a player, but if I have the choice between 1,5% house edge and 1% house edge, then I chose 1% house edge. Wink 1% house edge is 50% less than 1,5% house edge!

The marketing strategy of EOSBet is clearly to promote dividends for life and therefore they attract dumb investors who are not able to do basic rentability calculation and are naive enough to believe that they contribute one time and get rewarded for life! Cheesy

If your marketing attracts dumb "investors", you will get dumb investors and not players. If you get dumb "investors" and not players, the party will be over after all BET fantasy tokens are issued! Smiley

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May 13, 2019, 12:26:11 PM
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okay I'm up to listen to you game-protect. how is it nonsense for a project to distribute dividends for life?

i'm not sure either how to check where they do have provably fair games but the only I played in EOSbet was the dice. can you show to us too how they are not fair?

I am a bit worried because the volume on the site has dropped so much lately. Hopefully the marketing continues with the new coins added.
I blocked game-protect while ago for obvious trolling.

I don't think adding new coins would be enough.

They need to change their betting style to social betting. Right now you are playing the crash game by yourself but it can be like bustabit.

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May 13, 2019, 01:07:02 PM
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okay I'm up to listen to you game-protect. how is it nonsense for a project to distribute dividends for life?

i'm not sure either how to check where they do have provably fair games but the only I played in EOSbet was the dice. can you show to us too how they are not fair?

I am a bit worried because the volume on the site has dropped so much lately. Hopefully the marketing continues with the new coins added.
I blocked game-protect while ago for obvious trolling.

I don't think adding new coins would be enough.

They need to change their betting style to social betting. Right now you are playing the crash game by yourself but it can be like bustabit.

I (and have seen more in telegram chat) actually prefer not having to wait before my bets start. I like the single player mode better (unless of course it's PvP). Even better would be for them to offer both the single player and multiplayer modes.

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okay I'm up to listen to you game-protect. how is it nonsense for a project to distribute dividends for life?

i'm not sure either how to check where they do have provably fair games but the only I played in EOSbet was the dice. can you show to us too how they are not fair?

I am a bit worried because the volume on the site has dropped so much lately. Hopefully the marketing continues with the new coins added.
I blocked game-protect while ago for obvious trolling.

I don't think adding new coins would be enough.

They need to change their betting style to social betting. Right now you are playing the crash game by yourself but it can be like bustabit.
Well it's for the marketing team to assess if what would be the best thing to do in order to get more attention and more gamblers to visit their site and play inside, more interesting additions will worth to wait,.
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May 13, 2019, 06:48:41 PM
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The fact they are actually the only provably fair open source casino out there
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How come people are claiming this? Surely this is not the case, has anyone confirmed this? I don't think that even Eosbet is claiming that it's the only that's provably fair.
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May 13, 2019, 08:00:04 PM
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The fact they are actually the only provably fair open source casino out there
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How come people are claiming this? Surely this is not the case, has anyone confirmed this? I don't think that even EOSBet is claiming that it's the only that's provably fair.

I don't know if they are claiming it, but I am. But to be fair I did not check every casino in the world. However I was not able to find another casino that was fully on-chain that also open sourced their code.

If there was another one that is provably fair to the same degree as EOSBet it would still make them very unique in the world.

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May 14, 2019, 08:48:06 AM
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The fact they are actually the only provably fair open source casino out there
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How come people are claiming this? Surely this is not the case, has anyone confirmed this? I don't think that even Eosbet is claiming that it's the only that's provably fair.

Yes, i agree. There is no place to check their claim. Also, when i try any game with my dividends, it feels like game is rigged. Just tried crash game and it failed at 1.00x. And this wasn't the first time.

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May 14, 2019, 11:43:44 AM
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The fact they are actually the only provably fair open source casino out there
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How come people are claiming this? Surely this is not the case, has anyone confirmed this? I don't think that even Eosbet is claiming that it's the only that's provably fair.

Yes, i agree. There is no place to check their claim. Also, when i try any game with my dividends, it feels like game is rigged. Just tried crash game and it failed at 1.00x. And this wasn't the first time.

Why passively claim they are a scam without any proof? They have given more evidence of being fair than any other casino as far I could find:

Open sourced code: https://gitlab.com/EOSBetCasino/eosbetdice_public
Statistical analysis: https://medium.com/@cc32d9/fairness-report-for-eosbet-dice-e96651fc6e8b
Case study: https://hacken.io/case-study-hacken-smart-contract-audit-of-eosbet
License: Click on the Gaming Curacao logo at the bottom of their site as it will verify the url as licensed.

Just because you lost (more than once) doesn't mean it's rigged, the odds of that happening at 1.00x not that weird.

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May 14, 2019, 12:14:28 PM
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License: Click on the Gaming Curacao logo at the bottom of their site as it will verify the url as licensed.
Only authorities can issue and verify the validity of licenses, whereas Gaming Curacao is an anonymous venture and no authority!

I am not the Emperor of China only because the website of an anonymous venture claims it!

Despite of this, Gaming Curacao is part of a player scamming fraud scheme with many victims! Lies when it opens its mouse!

As everyone can see, EOSBet not only commits a huge investment fraud with dividends for life after one time contribution, but it also operates illegal without a valid license!  Cheesy
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