CLOUDBET IS SCAM! They are not paying for winning bets!

[cruso]

Screens from our conversation:
http://prntscr.com/mg60pw
http://prntscr.com/mg60v8
http://prntscr.com/mg60yk
http://prntscr.com/mg6122
http://prntscr.com/mg616f
http://prntscr.com/mg61cf
http://prntscr.com/mg61fu

The op was right not to trust you. From the quoted screenshots, you were clearly encouraging him to pay a 2btc "bribe" - which I dont think is a real offer from cloudbet. Why would they demand a bribe on telegram when they plan keeping all of the funds? It does not make sense. While we are at it, what are you charging 0.1btc for?

Anyways, lets not derail the thread with this nonsense. Its scary to think you were supposedly a trusted member of the forum.

[1714151173]

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[Rambotnic]

Do not put words from my name, let me screenshot the whole conversation between me and you.
Screens from our conversation:
http://prntscr.com/mg60pw
http://prntscr.com/mg60v8
http://prntscr.com/mg60yk
http://prntscr.com/mg6122
http://prntscr.com/mg616f
http://prntscr.com/mg61cf
http://prntscr.com/mg61fu

Quoted for reference and archived here http://archive.is/qVLrk

Thanks, lets make this things clear.
I will add this also as proof when i did contact the guy from my PM's -> http://prntscr.com/mg6k0f  ( February 02, 2019, 07:44:05 PM )
And when he contacted me over telegram -> http://prntscr.com/mg6k7k ( February 02, 2019, 10:10 PM)
From what i can see, he received email from the scammer here -> https://imgur.com/a/eu89OAQ ( February 02, 2019, 02:33:03)

Lets match the timestamp.
OP should also verify his GMT time so we can match the timing.

marlboroza, thanks for the false abused negative trust, you got just the same from me.
Since when it is illegal or something bad to offer help people for money.
Money that should not be send before.
And yes, based on the statistics all scammers asking money upfront/bribe.
That's not something new and everyone know that, if you don't then open your eyes and take a look at how most scammers work.
If you telling me that i suggested OP to pay the scammers bribe, take a closer look after he giving me more detailed information about the case, how i told him to not pay them even cent.
In first place it was more than obvious they threaten him to pay money, and yes i do suggest people to pay any amount to take what was scammed, especially with that amount.
That "bribe" can be put in escrow so the scammers can take it after they unlock his account.
Take a closer look in our conversation between me and OP and then judge with your brain.
People with DT powers should be little bit more smart than this and judge after reading.

[ginalli]

Yea, I never shared my telegram on the forum. I shared with some of the users on this forum.

i contacted the OP (ginalli) to ask him few questions (of course not private) and seems like cloudbet is asking for bribe (cash under the table) to unlock his account from what he says.
correct me if i am wrong but we seen that before..
casinos locking people account to milk money from the big players, and in the end after the big noise, they always do that and milk their players.
this is classic case and not something new...
sadly the amount is big this time

Hey mate! Why you are telling me that bribes in Casinos is fine and you telling me to pay 1-2 BTC to that guys? Are you with them?
This is really stupid and you mate added me on Telegram and asked me even before these guys offered me to pay them lmfao

If you didn't share your telegram on the forum, then the scammer is most likely the person or people you shared the info with privately on here. Please name and shame them.

There is something sketchy with the OP.
I offered him my help for 0.1btc AFTER i manage to turn back his btc and he denied it. ( Who will decline paying 0.1 to return back 38btc consider i didn't ask him to pay me upfront)
Why would anyone from cloud bet send him  email with random telegram to contact them instead of sending him official email?
Why would he add the telegram on the email and letting the scammers manipulate him asking for money.

OP, could you please share with us the conversation with the scammers over telegram?

Listen, I have my screenshots as well with you.

I have just one question, how do you know what these guys want from me? even before they contacted me?

You start to ask me - Hey man, they ask money from you, right? bla bla bla Don't agree to pay that amount, pay but way less 1 or 2 BTC, the bribes in casinos are OK!

How do you know what these people want from me? And you like other scammers asked my telegram here in PM!

So STFU! You are one the "HELPER" in these scam situations, who is offered to pay a bribe   

Here are all conversations:
https://imgur.com/a/btwk1SM

[ginalli]

Screens from our conversation:
http://prntscr.com/mg60pw
http://prntscr.com/mg60v8
http://prntscr.com/mg60yk
http://prntscr.com/mg6122
http://prntscr.com/mg616f
http://prntscr.com/mg61cf
http://prntscr.com/mg61fu

The op was right not to trust you. From the quoted screenshots, you were clearly encouraging him to pay a 2btc "bribe" - which I dont think is a real offer from cloudbet. Why would they demand a bribe on telegram when they plan keeping all of the funds? It does not make sense. While we are at it, what are you charging 0.1btc for?

Anyways, lets not derail the thread with this nonsense. Its scary to think you were supposedly a trusted member of the forum.

Thanks Mate! Yea, obviously, you can see in the messages that this guy, was with them. I have nothing to hide, I am fighting for truth here, to get my winning.

EVEN if there is someone really can help, I am willing to pay for help! But all these people trying to f#ck around and scam people like me in a hard time. Shame!

This is Andy from Cloudbets telegram. You can confirm in cloudbet Live Chat. Fuck scammers impersonating Cloudbet.

https://m.imgur.com/Z1cc0Qy

Thanks! I will contact him!

[marlboroza]

@ginalli don't pay anything to anyone to restore your account, as I said before. Not a single service will ask you such thing, especially not to pay them +$15K.

Also, whoever comes to you with idea that they will help you but you have to pay them something is probably trying to scam you. People here will help you for free if they can and you don't have to pay anything to anyone, no one here is running bitcointalk's law practice.

Also, stay away from Gameprotect (if you have to, rather hire real licensed lawyer), they can't help/protect you. Let's wait for Cloudbet's response here.

edited.

[Rambotnic]

Yea, I never shared my telegram on the forum. I shared with some of the users on this forum.

i contacted the OP (ginalli) to ask him few questions (of course not private) and seems like cloudbet is asking for bribe (cash under the table) to unlock his account from what he says.
correct me if i am wrong but we seen that before..
casinos locking people account to milk money from the big players, and in the end after the big noise, they always do that and milk their players.
this is classic case and not something new...
sadly the amount is big this time

Hey mate! Why you are telling me that bribes in Casinos is fine and you telling me to pay 1-2 BTC to that guys? Are you with them?
This is really stupid and you mate added me on Telegram and asked me even before these guys offered me to pay them lmfao

If you didn't share your telegram on the forum, then the scammer is most likely the person or people you shared the info with privately on here. Please name and shame them.

There is something sketchy with the OP.
I offered him my help for 0.1btc AFTER i manage to turn back his btc and he denied it. ( Who will decline paying 0.1 to return back 38btc consider i didn't ask him to pay me upfront)
Why would anyone from cloud bet send him  email with random telegram to contact them instead of sending him official email?
Why would he add the telegram on the email and letting the scammers manipulate him asking for money.

OP, could you please share with us the conversation with the scammers over telegram?

Listen, I have my screenshots as well with you.

I have just one question, how do you know what these guys want from me? even before they contacted me?

You start to ask me - Hey man, they ask money from you, right? bla bla bla Don't agree to pay that amount, pay but way less 1 or 2 BTC, the bribes in casinos are OK!

How do you know what these people want from me? And you like other scammers asked my telegram here in PM!

So STFU! You are one the "HELPER" in these scam situations, who is offered to pay a bribe   

Here are all conversations:
https://imgur.com/a/btwk1SM

As you can see from our conversation i did ask you questions and you answered.
I didn't know i only predicted because like i said above, as every single scammer do, they will also ask for money.
Every single scammer trying to milk more the victim and that's more than obvious.
Also this will be the very last case i try to help someone, because every time someone trying to do something good he eat shits.
Based on your lies and twisting my words, you deserve what happened to you from the casino.
Take a closer look to our conversation, i ask you questions and you confirmed my predictions.
My predictions are based on what the scammers mostly do.
I didn't know anything before you confirm it.
Also, interesting, why did you contact me before replying my pm asking for my telegram?
How did you find my telegram without having it from me?
How the scammers contacted you ?
Did you added them after you got that email and before or after you contacting me?
Could you please show the headers from the email so we can see the IP from where they sending you that email?
I ask for your telegram for sure, but the interesting part is that you added me in telegram way before i have your telegram.
And yes i clearly stand behind my words, it is better to pay them what they want to take that huge amount they scamming off you.
There is many secured ways you paying them those money without being scammed again.
You can always use escrow and put those money/coins in safe place so they cannot scam you.
By that way, the scammers won't be able to have those coins without doing what they promise (unlock your account).
I can offer you not only bribe but many other solutions, consider i ask you for 0.1btc AFTER i help you out.
As someone wanting money for his help, i will try to do my best to help you out turning back this coins to you and receive my 0.1.
Instead of blaming everyone around, answer the questions and use your brain.
Thanks.

[Rambotnic]

Why would i help random people for free? That's not gotham and i am not batman.
We are all over this forum to earn money and helping someone to return stolen 38btc just for 0.1btc is nothing.
Even if i success that would be 10x less than a lawyer would take off him to start a case.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Why would i help random people for free? That's not gotham and i am not batman.
We are all over this forum to earn money and helping someone to return stolen 38btc just for 0.1btc is nothing.
Even if i success that would be 10x less than a lawyer would take off him to start a case.

And you wonder why you got negged.  This forum needs way less of people like you in it.

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This looks exactly like someone who's trying his best to talk his way out of something he fucked up on.  I don't even find this amusing.  It actually pisses me off that you did this.

[Rambotnic]

Why would i help random people for free? That's not gotham and i am not batman.
We are all over this forum to earn money and helping someone to return stolen 38btc just for 0.1btc is nothing.
Even if i success that would be 10x less than a lawyer would take off him to start a case.

And you wonder why you got negged.  This forum needs way less of people like you in it.

Actually this forum needs way more people like me who is willing to help and expose the scammers in early state.
You judging me for something you don't understand.
I tried to expose them with questions in early state and accepting paying "bribe" was one of the tactics.
You should realize accepting to do something is not like doing it.
All of you reading only what you want to see.
The facts and truth is different.
All i wanted is to expose the scammers with questions doing it by their own "game".
People should be more like me helping the victims and question the scammers.
Also we all know that lawyer will cost him a lot more, and he will pay before any case start and not after the case is done
So don't try to make me look like a bad person.

[Rambotnic]

Why would i help random people for free? That's not gotham and i am not batman.
We are all over this forum to earn money and helping someone to return stolen 38btc just for 0.1btc is nothing.
Even if i success that would be 10x less than a lawyer would take off him to start a case.

And you wonder why you got negged.  This forum needs way less of people like you in it.

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This looks exactly like someone who's trying his best to talk his way out of something he fucked up on.  I don't even find this amusing.  It actually pisses me off that you did this.

It’s ridiculous.  The clown is trying to profit off of someone else’s misfortune. This forum should be used for collaboration, knowledge sharing, and looking out for the crypto community.

You are nothing more than a ambulance chaser Rambotnic.

Call clowns all lawyers you zero iq retard.
What knowledge or collaboration you gave to this forum you idiot?
Forum is used to make money also which is not illegal or against rules you idiot

[Rambotnic]

Why would i help random people for free? That's not gotham and i am not batman.
We are all over this forum to earn money and helping someone to return stolen 38btc just for 0.1btc is nothing.
Even if i success that would be 10x less than a lawyer would take off him to start a case.

And you wonder why you got negged.  This forum needs way less of people like you in it.

Edit:

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This looks exactly like someone who's trying his best to talk his way out of something he fucked up on.  I don't even find this amusing.  It actually pisses me off that you did this.

It’s ridiculous.  The clown is trying to profit off of someone else’s misfortune. This forum should be used for collaboration, knowledge sharing, and looking out for the crypto community.

You are nothing more than a ambulance chaser Rambotnic.

Call all clowns all lawyers you zero iq retard.
What knowledge or collaboration you gave to this forum you idiot?
Forum is used to make money also which is not illegal or against rules you idiot

Lol 

Poor guy earned his merits only from cloudbet thread :D:D
Poor guy who have zero topics started in this forum to help the community got claims for anything.
I bet 10$ you are alt of red tagged scammer.

[mirakal]

This is being shady of Cloudbet, when I saw this thread I then checked their account in the forum and I'm glad that DTs has do some timely action.
38 BTC is a lot of money, it's a life changing for anyone but not for cloudbet since they've been here for awhile and I think they make more than that amount as a profit.

I'm just concern why they haven't reply with this scam accusation which was 3 days ago, I'm sure they are well aware of this since their account was painted. From now on, I'll put this site in my blacklist.

For awhile I thought it's the only trusted sportsbook since it has a positive rating but now it's all gone, they will just throw away their reputation if they will not solve this.

[coinlocket$]

I've found what it seems a response of the team on another platform, I don't know who much we can trust this post. In the time the account of their team is still offline on the forum was online 6 hours ago.



https://www.askgamblers.com/casino-complaints/cloudbet-casino-problem-withdrawing-38-btc

[Lauda]

-snip-
I can’t wait to see Ronnie’s response on this. Lol. In other words the country of Russia doesn’t allow cloudbet to be accessed so cloudbet tells people in Russia to use vpn so they can bet? HAHA

In other words cloudbet knows Russian citizens are using VPN and have been taking bets from them? This gets funnier by the minute.

That's nothing new, nothing funny and not something that is done only by Cloudbet. If you are smart enough, you don't need someone else telling you how to avoid geo-restrictions anyways.

[ginalli]

This is being shady of Cloudbet, when I saw this thread I then checked their account in the forum and I'm glad that DTs has do some timely action.
38 BTC is a lot of money, it's a life changing for anyone but not for cloudbet since they've been here for awhile and I think they make more than that amount as a profit.
I'm just concern why they haven't reply with this scam accusation which was 3 days ago, I'm sure they are well aware of this since their account was painted. From now on, I'll put this site in my blacklist.
For awhile I thought it's the only trusted sportsbook since it has a positive rating but now it's all gone, they will just throw away their reputation if they will not solve this.

Hey @mirakal! That's what I am saying, even some other scammers contacted me already, but not Cloudbet. I am still waiting for their reply. I am in contact with Evolution Gaming since this is their platform, I hope they will help me with my 38 BTC problem 

This is my last contact Cloudbet on the chat and they confirmed that they have my money:
https://imgur.com/a/tQDeBn6

I've found what it seems a response of the team on another platform, I don't know who much we can trust this post. In the time the account of their team is still offline on the forum was online 6 hours ago.
https://puu.sh/CHcFL/8c72dadde3.png

Looks like they replied on AskGamblers (https://www.askgamblers.com/casino-complaints/cloudbet-casino-problem-withdrawing-38-btc) , but I haven't received anything yet.
I will keep posting my updates here!


Thanks everyone!

[Rambotnic]

Hey @mirakal! That's what I am saying, even some other scammers contacted me already, but not Cloudbet.

Did you inform them that they can submit their claims to Game Protect?

Dude, why you keep spamming like you are someone?
No one give a fuck about your scamming services and no one going to submit anything in your scamming services.
You were exposed to Blackmail/Racketeering people with their private information.
Fuck off, no one should share anything with you.

[Get-Paid.com]

Hey @mirakal! That's what I am saying, even some other scammers contacted me already, but not Cloudbet.

Did you inform them that they can submit their claims to Game Protect?

Dude, why you keep spamming like you are someone?
No one give a fuck about your scamming services and no one going to submit anything in your scamming services.
You were exposed to Blackmail/Racketeering people with their private information.
Fuck off, no one should share anything with you.

I shared my claim with GP and I got compensated.
I tried everything I could before then and only GP helped me get compensated

Why are you attacking GP as if it's someone you hate so much? Has GP caused you any damages for trying its service? If not then why are you using an aggressive tone?

Say what you want to say politely, you will be heard and keeping discussions in a civil way should be the first milestone before discussing any business whatsoever.

[edge777]

The guy Jo jones from telegram is a total fuck. DO NOT SEND SHIT TO anyone its not what they promised.

Somthing similar happened with me on Binance but they were super amazing at solving issues. I deposited 8 BTC and no questions were asked and when I tried withdrawing 7.5 (a little loss) they denied and asked for a verification procedure which was not really that simple but anyways my issue was solved 2 days later. My account was blocked for 24 hours i couldnt pass verification process in 5 attempts.

Point is, you must ask documents about the source of BTC at the time of deposit or dont ask at all because it just doesnt make sense and only reason why I am going to talk to a service that does that nice becaue my money is at stake wsith them.

I am so sorry for your loss and hopefully you will get the amount in full and not a penny less. Good luck looking forward for the updates

[edge777]

I spent last two hours researching about them(cloudbet ) and any(if at all) scam accusations made on them. Man, it is scary to even think about it. i do know brother how you must feel when it happened but I'm sure all is going to go well.

PS. i just withdrew my 0.035 BTC out of cloudbet moments ago and sent them on Nitrogensports. 

[BlackMambaPH]

Here's the reason why Ronnie or the Cloudbet representative still didn't respond on this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5098762.msg49613453#msg49613453

Afternoon all,

Apologies for the lack of responses, I forgot to mention I was at a conference. I'll be sending out the free spins from round 2 first thing tomorrow morning when i'm back in the office, so expect them in your account by 10:00 UTC 

Hope you are all having a great week!

Ronnie @ Cloudbet

The team is kinda busy at the moment maybe because of this matter.