Hate a DT1 member? Or two? All of them? Post your grievances here. UNMODERATED

[bill gator]

If all three of us are New Englanders ...  Maybe we should all get together and have a hug-out or something.

Make that 4 of us; I'll be there!

Also, I think he was just trying to make a guess based on the name, which isn't even close.

I disagree with your approach to exclude OG, or anyone based on the sole-fact that they've excluded you, but this is a conversation that has been done to death and it isn't unreasonable to distrust their network once they've distrusted you.

I read through the thread briefly and I have found that most of the accusations leveled against Lauda, OGNasty and crew(s) are either too petty to pretend to care or too complicated for me to wrap my head around. The outcome is that both Lauda, OGNasty and even probably a few people that personally dislike me are on my trust-list, because I see them as making the community better.

It's sad to see users like philipma being accused of inflating their own trust, as if that would have any impact, when they are already in the "hall of fame" in terms of the most trusted users. Anybody would be foolish not to trust them. I see these kinds of accusations as malicious and having ulterior motives.

[OgNasty]

I had excluded you long before any of this drama and before you excluded me so I'm not the one pretending and pushing a narrative here. I have also spoken out against your petty ratings well before all this. You're just too stubborn to admit that neg-trusting someone for posting in your thread or criticizing you was a mistake.

"Most trusted user" is not a title you bestow upon yourself, it's something that should be left for others to decide. This shameless tooting of your own horn is just one more reason to not trust your judgement.

I’m aware. Your agenda towards me was clear from day 1.

I didn’t give myself the most trusted user title. I earned it over a period of many years of trustworthy behavior. It is a title I no longer hold (a known doxxer and enabling auction manipulator has it now, which was celebrated by the same user who's auction manipulation he was enabling), but claiming I gave it to myself is just another pathetic attempt of yours to control the narrative while ignoring facts.

Most agree I am trustworthy and giving me a negative trust rating is not appropriate. Yet Lauda does it and nobody says a word. Nobody ever responded to my questions asking if Lauda’s continued abuse of rmcdermott927 is acceptable, but that’s because they know it isn’t but turn a blind eye because standing up for what’s right gets you attacked for years as I have been...

I’m sorry, but you lose literally all credibility in my eyes defending someone like Lauda as they terrorize honest users with inappropriate feedback practices. I just can’t take anything you say seriously when you’re so willing to turn a blind eye at awful behavior, yet so willing to try and paint a picture of dishonesty where there is none.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Make that 4 of us; I'll be there!

Lol, we're all a salty bunch of nuts and have the worst drivers in all of the US (especially the Massholes), but apparently there's a lot of bitcoiners up here. 

Also, I think he was just trying to make a guess based on the name, which isn't even close.

Then that's one hell of an association based just on his username, one which I would not have made in a million years.  Makes me think ortkid knows more than he's letting on, and makes me even more curious as to whether he actually lives in NE.  It would explain the attitude.

[philipma1957]

sorry Phillip im in Ma. too North Adams near the VT. line. i just don't agree with you.

Did you just give away a whole bunch of info about where Philipma1957 lives? 

If all three of us are New Englanders, why is it you write like you're from nowhere the English language is ever spoken?  Just curious.  Maybe we should all get together and have a hug-out or something.

I am a Native New Yorker

I live in Howell,NJ   more then  20 years

I have relatives in

NY
CT
NH

So northeaster is a better description for me.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I am a Native New Yorker

Ah, interesting.  OK then, I'm wondering how in hell otrkid1970 put together your (incorrect, but close) location based on your username.  That's strange, very strange.

Haven't been through Joizy in years, and I don't miss all those toll booths off the turnpike--I used to drive to Philly to visit a friend of mine who was attending school at UPenn, and then he lived in NJ for a while.  Can't remember the town, but it was quite a few exits down off the turnpike.  That must've been 2004 or so, last time I was in NJ.

This is a much better feeling than ripping other DT members to shreds, IMO.  

I do agree with Lauda that sometimes burying the hatchet can backfire.  Rambotnic (not a DT member) just proved that to me, though I think there have been other examples where I wished I hadn't removed a neg or had negged someone I didn't.  On the other hand, I'm down with Theymos's request for de-escalation of squabbles, and I do think we can all coexist somewhat peacefully here, even with major disagreements.  They flare up and die down and have done so for years.  If we can keep it in the sub-smouldering stage, that would be a major victory--and an achievable one at that.

Edit:

brain washed McDonalds fan

A'ight, you got me there even though I haven't partaken in their fare in quite some time.  I'm less sure about your attack on my IQ, but you're free to believe what you wish.

[Rambotnic]

I am a Native New Yorker

Ah, interesting.  OK then, I'm wondering how in hell otrkid1970 put together your (incorrect, but close) location based on your username.  That's strange, very strange.

Haven't been through Joizy in years, and I don't miss all those toll booths off the turnpike--I used to drive to Philly to visit a friend of mine who was attending school at UPenn, and then he lived in NJ for a while.  Can't remember the town, but it was quite a few exits down off the turnpike.  That must've been 2004 or so, last time I was in NJ.

This is a much better feeling than ripping other DT members to shreds, IMO.  

I do agree with Lauda that sometimes burying the hatchet can backfire.  Rambotnic (not a DT member) just proved that to me, though I think there have been other examples where I wished I hadn't removed a neg or had negged someone I didn't.  On the other hand, I'm down with Theymos's request for de-escalation of squabbles, and I do think we can all coexist somewhat peacefully here, even with major disagreements.  They flare up and die down and have done so for years.  If we can keep it in the sub-smouldering stage, that would be a major victory--and an achievable one at that.

Cry more retard.
All of you tagged me because i wanted money to help a person ?
Even that i ask the money after the "job".
Well done mr moralist who don't go after all the illegal stuff going around.
You are to stupid and blind american brain washed McDonalds fan to understand the world after your keyboard.
We both know how "smart" you were before google.
Keep trying to wash your hands with your under the average iq.

We all know how retards like you, lauda, tman and owlcatz running this forum.
Let's take a look how i were silenced in first place by TMAN ruining my feedback for nothing saying "I don't trust this person" just because i exposed owlcatz retarded behavior after loosing a free giveaway.
Of course as his proud gender shemale girlfriend, owlcatz tagged me for the same reason.
Not to mention the drug addict and highly abusive virtual keyboard Lauda just waited to do the same.
Sadly i didn't expect you as very big google fan who like to read things that do not understand to not realize few things.
Things that's not your business.
Things that cannot harm anyone but only help.
You can try to twist my words, that doesn't make it true, only your gaylord company of abusers will support your manipulation.
If i were what you saying, i would just spend 80$ and buy account to continue whatever i wanted to do.
Even that 80$ account would be much better than mine, but hey, don't worry about, you will grow up someday to understand what i mean.

[otrkid1970]

sorry Phillip im in Ma. too North Adams near the VT. line. i just don't agree with you.

Did you just give away a whole bunch of info about where Philipma1957 lives? 

If all three of us are New Englanders, why is it you write like you're from nowhere the English language is ever spoken?  Just curious.  Maybe we should all get together and have a hug-out or something.

Go New England....Just not the Pats.

[otrkid1970]

I am a Native New Yorker

Ah, interesting.  OK then, I'm wondering how in hell otrkid1970 put together your (incorrect, but close) location based on your username.  That's strange, very strange.

Haven't been through Joizy in years, and I don't miss all those toll booths off the turnpike--I used to drive to Philly to visit a friend of mine who was attending school at UPenn, and then he lived in NJ for a while.  Can't remember the town, but it was quite a few exits down off the turnpike.  That must've been 2004 or so, last time I was in NJ.

This is a much better feeling than ripping other DT members to shreds, IMO.  

I do agree with Lauda that sometimes burying the hatchet can backfire.  Rambotnic (not a DT member) just proved that to me, though I think there have been other examples where I wished I hadn't removed a neg or had negged someone I didn't.  On the other hand, I'm down with Theymos's request for de-escalation of squabbles, and I do think we can all coexist somewhat peacefully here, even with major disagreements.  They flare up and die down and have done so for years.  If we can keep it in the sub-smouldering stage, that would be a major victory--and an achievable one at that.

Edit:

brain washed McDonalds fan

A'ight, you got me there even though I haven't partaken in their fare in quite some time.  I'm less sure about your attack on my IQ, but you're free to believe what you wish.

He had an ad in the Goods section in the past. Claimed he he lived in in Ma.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Go New England....Just not the Pats.

Lol, how do you live with yourself if you're in NE?  You must not be a native, else you'd be lynched in the streets for such treason. 

[otrkid1970]

Go New England....Just not the Pats.

Lol, how do you live with yourself if you're in NE?  You must not be a native, else you'd be lynched in the streets for such treason. 

Lived in NE my entire life. Fuck Boston and those NE patriots.  Go STEELERS

[suchmoon]

I’m aware. Your agenda towards me was clear from day 1.

Rewriting history again, aren't we? I actually supported you in the Betcoin debacle. It was somewhere between eoakland and owlcatz conflicts that I realized how petty and thin-skinned you are, and how you're using the trust system to adjudicate your personal squabbles. Particularly with owlz, whom ironically I had some verbal confrontation with, and look - NO RED TRUST ENSUED. Weird, huh? It's almost as if rational people can resolve issues or something.

I didn’t give myself the most trusted user title. I earned it over a period of many years of trustworthy behavior. It is a title I no longer hold (a known doxxer and enabling auction manipulator has it now, which was celebrated by the same user who's auction manipulation he was enabling), but claiming I gave it to myself is just another pathetic attempt of yours to control the narrative while ignoring facts.

Most agree I am trustworthy and giving me a negative trust rating is not appropriate. Yet Lauda does it and nobody says a word. Nobody ever responded to my questions asking if Lauda’s continued abuse of rmcdermott927 is acceptable, but that’s because they know it isn’t but turn a blind eye because standing up for what’s right gets you attacked for years as I have been...

I’m sorry, but you lose literally all credibility in my eyes defending someone like Lauda as they terrorize honest users with inappropriate feedback practices. I just can’t take anything you say seriously when you’re so willing to turn a blind eye at awful behavior, yet so willing to try and paint a picture of dishonesty where there is none.

How about you being buddies with a known escrow scammer then? Does that affect your credibility at all? Or does that only apply to people you don't like?

BTW I've had quite a few disagreements with your "enemies" (Lauda, TMAN, ...) and the major difference between them and you is that I can reason with them and when we end up disagreeing I can at least understand their reasoning. But nice try spinning this into yet another Lauda thing. Two wrongs don't make it right and all that. Careful with those rocks and your glass house. It's a shame that you still don't own a mirror.

[owlcatz]

I'm really not sure why Og....someone that claims to protect the "Community" merits known scammers and pals around with QS, but whatever. 🤦‍♂️

@ OG I have deleted most of my trust ratings to you.... . Kindly do the same thanks and please.

[DarkStar_]

I'm really not sure why Og....someone that claims to protect the "Community" merits known scammers and pals around with QS, but whatever. 🤦‍♂️

Read:

While we will not be directly moderating this, I encourage people to give merit to posts that are objectively high-quality, not just posts that you agree with.

Just because you disagree with QS's posts doesn't mean they can't be high quality. Merit != Trust.

[TheNewAnon135246]

I'm really not sure why Og....someone that claims to protect the "Community" merits known scammers and pals around with QS, but whatever. 🤦‍♂️

Read:

While we will not be directly moderating this, I encourage people to give merit to posts that are objectively high-quality, not just posts that you agree with.

Just because you disagree with QS's posts doesn't mean they can't be high quality. Merit != Trust.

I think he is referring to OG meriting this topic: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5103988.0. That post encourages people to use a trust list, filled with known scammers and toxic people. Apparently his childish feud with Lauda weighs heavier than "protecting the community".

[cryptohunter]

I'm really not sure why Og....someone that claims to protect the "Community" merits known scammers and pals around with QS, but whatever. 🤦‍♂️

Read:

While we will not be directly moderating this, I encourage people to give merit to posts that are objectively high-quality, not just posts that you agree with.

Just because you disagree with QS's posts doesn't mean they can't be high quality. Merit != Trust.

I think he is referring to OG meriting this topic: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5103988.0. That post encourages people to use a trust list, filled with known scammers and toxic people. Apparently his childish feud with Lauda weighs heavier than "protecting the community".

Known scammers like who? you mean proven scammers?

List them with the proof.

Also keep in mind lauda is a proven liar and proven protector and promoter of scams therefore equal to a scammer according to suchmoons reasoning and red trust allocation. Yet you have no issue supporting him. That's not even factoring in the escrow business and the probable extortion attempt.

[TheNewAnon135246]

I'm really not sure why Og....someone that claims to protect the "Community" merits known scammers and pals around with QS, but whatever. 🤦‍♂️

Read:

While we will not be directly moderating this, I encourage people to give merit to posts that are objectively high-quality, not just posts that you agree with.

Just because you disagree with QS's posts doesn't mean they can't be high quality. Merit != Trust.

I think he is referring to OG meriting this topic: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5103988.0. That post encourages people to use a trust list, filled with known scammers and toxic people. Apparently his childish feud with Lauda weighs heavier than "protecting the community".

Known scammers like who? you mean proven scammers?

List them with the proof.

Also keep in mind lauda is a proven liar and proven protector and promoter of scams therefore equal to a scammer according to suchmoons reasoning and red trust allocation. Yet you have no issue supporting him. That's not even factoring in the escrow business and the probable extortion attempt.

Sorry, on mobile so I can't put a lot of effort into this now. Will make a more detailed post later. One example is that Defcon23 is on that list. He tried selling silver plated bars as actual .999 silver bars. He also self escrowed and threatened to dox people etc.

I am not going to discuss Lauda but he is already distrusted on that list right?

[cryptohunter]

I'm really not sure why Og....someone that claims to protect the "Community" merits known scammers and pals around with QS, but whatever. 🤦‍♂️

Read:

While we will not be directly moderating this, I encourage people to give merit to posts that are objectively high-quality, not just posts that you agree with.

Just because you disagree with QS's posts doesn't mean they can't be high quality. Merit != Trust.

I think he is referring to OG meriting this topic: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5103988.0. That post encourages people to use a trust list, filled with known scammers and toxic people. Apparently his childish feud with Lauda weighs heavier than "protecting the community".

Known scammers like who? you mean proven scammers?

List them with the proof.

Also keep in mind lauda is a proven liar and proven protector and promoter of scams therefore equal to a scammer according to suchmoons reasoning and red trust allocation. Yet you have no issue supporting him. That's not even factoring in the escrow business and the probable extortion attempt.

Sorry, on mobile so I can't put a lot of effort into this now. Will make a more detailed post later. One example is that Defcon23 is on that list. He tried selling silver plated bars as actual .999 silver bars. He also self escrowed and threatened to dox people etc.

I am not going to discuss Lauda but he is already distrusted on that list right?

Okay. I see.

Yes but Lauda is on your own trust list and yet you are unwilling to discuss events that you know have proven him untrustworthy. So the entire thing is ludicrous. You can call him out for "meriting"  a post fighting for a fairer system (because the system they are advocating will not favour scammers it will actually make them easier to spot). When you are directly advocating and including in your trust list a PROVEN liar whom is implicated in many other shady dealings. We can analyze them in detail if you need further clarification. If you resist then you are willfully trying to assist untrustworthy persons into dangerous positions of trust.

There is  no other way to look at it. Unless you can explain?

This kind of argument it self defeating for all that voice it.

[Hhampuz]

I rarely hate but I do dislike double standards.. Like when a certain someone calls me immoral for hiring my friends in signature campaigns (calling it circle-jerking) but as soon as they find themselves managing a campaign they hire their more or less inactive friend without that guy even having to apply. Always creating the narrative to fit their own agenda. Like when you say you can't count profits in BTC, you have to look at them in $. Yet later you are comparing talks in $ to be like Japanese. Hmm.

Not naming names, although it's quite obvious who I'm referring to. Just had to vent a bit.

[cryptohunter]

I rarely hate but I do dislike double standards.. Like when a certain someone calls me immoral for hiring my friends in signature campaigns (calling it circle-jerking) but as soon as they find themselves managing a campaign they hire their more or less inactive friend without that guy even having to apply. Always creating the narrative to fit their own agenda. Like when you say you can't count profits in BTC, you have to look at them in $. Yet later you are comparing talks in $ to be like Japanese. Hmm.

Not naming names, although it's quite obvious who I'm referring to. Just had to vent a bit.

I can see that you must be referring to supporters of lauda since that would seem to be the most fitting explanation
for what you describe here

double standards are very destructive here

[ac2eugenio]

I'm really not sure why Og....someone that claims to protect the "Community" merits known scammers and pals around with QS, but whatever. 🤦‍♂️

Read:

While we will not be directly moderating this, I encourage people to give merit to posts that are objectively high-quality, not just posts that you agree with.

Just because you disagree with QS's posts doesn't mean they can't be high quality. Merit != Trust.

I think he is referring to OG meriting this topic: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5103988.0. That post encourages people to use a trust list, filled with known scammers and toxic people. Apparently his childish feud with Lauda weighs heavier than "protecting the community".

Known scammers? did i scam someone? you fucking retarded.Your fucking cult is abusing the trust system but hey,your time will come.
Thats clearly a big statement calling those people in the thread known scammers,ill say just fuck off.