Who is the cheater?

[sell my ac_________nt]

Unfortunately, this is a very unstable industry for permanent earnings and I think the main scammers are managers, they constantly delay payments to us.

[rudolfaxl]

Well as a developer I will choose the best situation were in I can make the project still the top and also the price because many hunters are dumping the price and the investors are lossing their money on it wht the hunters are happy because they already profit even a little. The thing is hunter is the worst here.

Why wouldn't you pay rewards in BTC or ETH in this case? Don't you think this easy step should remove dumps after the listing? Of course you as developers should have some money to provide rewards but in the end it's a win-win situation.

[cytpoway121]

I do not think there is a cheater
Bounty hunting is a business
Managing bounties is also a business

We can not judge all bounty managers the same likewise we cannot judge bounty hunters as the same

But dyor and promote only projects that are worth it

[khufuking]

Some bounty-hunters are cheaters and some ICo's team and managers are scumbags, let us be honest here there is a huge amount of multi-accounting and cheating in bounty-hunting space and we all know, ICO teams and managers treat bounty-hunters as if they have no right and as if they are giving them a reward and that should be changed because what they are giving is not a reward it is a payment for a work that been done.

In the case, you mentioned the bounty-hunters are cheaters and the ICO team are scumbags but the blame should be fully put on ICO team because if they had a good bounty manager then they will be able to minimize multi-accounting so they have a solution in their hands while on the other hand, honest bounty-hunters have no way to defend themselves.

[Patatas]

Obviously the bounty hunters. They break the important rule of any bounty that is participating with multiple accounts. I don't care how scammy the ICO is if the participant isn't genuine in their approach.

[jacafbiz]

I don't know why people fail to realize that the loyalty of the team is to their project and not to bounty hunters. You said it, if you have people cheating and farming accounts into project, the team can apply their discretion and delay the tokens distribution, as for tokens dumping when it gets to exchanges, investors too are suffering because it is not easy to see you investment drop form $1000 to $25 and it is  also a wrong assumption to think that bounty hunters do not invest in some of these ICO

[kingpin4321]

The truth is that most initial coin offering bounty managers are more interested in the growth of the project and the investors than bounty hunters they believe bounty hunters are just there for personal interest with out caring what ever development the Coin can achieve
I would say the true cheaters are both the selfish bounty hunters that abuse the project with multiple account and also the project organisers that don't stand by there words

[Skroojee]

Scams enough on both sides, but we must not forget about humanity. I believe that you need to make more reasonable rules, with the possibility of adjustment under any specific situation.

[karagun125]

I cannot say its a cheat part on bounty hunters. Although your example that bounty hunter has many accounts, it is still he's hardwork. Even if they have multiple accounts, they still manage to do the work. And by that i can't say it's a cheat on the part of bounty hunter.

[2tang]

Well as a developer I will choose the best situation were in I can make the project still the top and also the price because many hunters are dumping the price and the investors are lossing their money on it wht the hunters are happy because they already profit even a little. The thing is hunter is the worst here.

I am a bounty hunter and I realize that making a little is not a big problem for me, as long as I get profit I am quite happy
but in this case you cannot fully blame the bounty hunter because the bounty hunter only receives about 1% of the total supply so it won't make a big impact on the price, it won't trigger a dump

[pedpedped101]

I think that should be what the OP has experienced in the course of doing some bounties.
Well, it is normal and I feel every bounty participant has seen that happen many times, most especially those that have been in the space for a while.
As regards cheating on the snide of bounty participants, such is inevitable, but can be curbed.

[Dacosta Osei-Tutu]

They both cheat. Buh the hunters cheap frequently than the developers. Sometimes the tokens sent is lesser than the one displayed on the spreadsheet and that is when we can say they are cheating. Extending of bounty payment is not considered a cheat by me.

[susila_bai]

In the OP description both are cheaters, bounty hunter using multiple accounts and ICO persons, bounty hunters using multiple account to gain more coins and get big profit but ICO developers are more smart and just delayed the bounty rewards late that until it get received by the bounty hunter it is worthless.

If the bounty hunter was genuine using single account then be can accuse the ICO developers for delaying the bounty rewards. This is the common issue of ICO for delaying bounty rewards as they think to avoid the coin dump they are doing this. But even then the price is dumped so then who is the reason for this dump. So it is clear that if the coin is worthless it will get dumped after it get listed.

I have joined Tokpie exchange which gives you 50% of your bounty reward for trading in ETH in their exchange which i think worthy as ICO cannot scam in this process and you dont have to wait for long to get reward.

[asyakashi]

Both are greedy and ignore the rules.
but the delay problem is not the policy of the manager but the ICO developer policy.
The cheater is actually ourselves who are unable to analyze a good ICO and will succeed.

[inanilujimi]

both have the same potential to cheat.
but we don't realize that many people will be harmed by the results of this deception.
in my opinion this will be reduced if we can be honest with ourselves.

[xabre]

Really cheater is bounty campaign manager who given payment by ICO team but they always delay for distributing for bounty campaign participants, always trying give bad ideas and wait until price of ico have listed at market with lower price for distribution, I am still remember with project bounty campaign delay more than three moth and make price have dump and lower.

[lienfaye]

The bounty hunter first break the rules for using multiple accounts to take advantage the opportunity, in the end I think he deserves what happened because he cheated from the beginning.

However for participants who follow the rules its not fair for them to not get their reward as promise by the team since they work hard for it and now the price is already dump in exchanges. They cant sell it in low price and they have to wait again until the price recover.

[Matimtim]

TEAM: The campaign will run from now to.........., the bounty rewards will be distributed 45 days after token sales
GENERAL RULES: One account per person
BOUNTY HUNTERS: joined
 5 telegram account per person
 3 bitcointalk account per person
 5 facebook account per person
 4 twitter account per person
 2 Reddit account per person
 2 LinkedIn account per person

Two days to the end of ICO...
TEAM: Due to some reasons,the ICO will be extended for two weeks
BOUNTY HUNTERS: Can we stop the campaign and remove the signature?
TEAM: No,the campaign will continue to the end of ICO.
BOUNTY HUNTERS: When exchange?
TEAM: We can't discuss exchange now,we will announce when is time.
BOUNTY HUNTERS: When bounty rewards distribution?
TEAM: Wait for announcement here.

After ICO......
BOUNTY HUNTERS: When exchange?
TEAM: We are preparing announcement, wait for it.
BOUNTY HUNTERS: When bounty rewards distribution?
TEAM: We will announce here just stay tune.
TEAM: Our coin will be listed on....... on .....
BOUNTY HUNTERS: When bounty rewards distribution?
TEAM: We will announce here just stay tune

After listing...

BOUNTY HUNTERS: When bounty rewards?
TEAM: We will give the announcement in days.

After coin dumped...
TEAM: The bounty rewards will be distributed in 3 weeks.


      Bounty hunters using multiple account,
      Dev and team delaying bounty rewards until it worth nothing.
     Then who is the cheater?

I think we dont need to judge who is the cheaters between team who make the project or the bounty hunters who advertise that project, maybe if we want the good community lets start it  in our own life.

We need to accept the reality that we are in the human world and all things here is not perfect. If we think the situation of team who they are not do what they are promise vs bounty hunters who breaks the rules there is no difference.

[Jrfranco]

TEAM: The campaign will run from now to.........., the bounty rewards will be distributed 45 days after token sales
GENERAL RULES: One account per person
BOUNTY HUNTERS: joined
 5 telegram account per person
 3 bitcointalk account per person
 5 facebook account per person
 4 twitter account per person
 2 Reddit account per person
 2 LinkedIn account per person

Two days to the end of ICO...
TEAM: Due to some reasons,the ICO will be extended for two weeks
BOUNTY HUNTERS: Can we stop the campaign and remove the signature?
TEAM: No,the campaign will continue to the end of ICO.
BOUNTY HUNTERS: When exchange?
TEAM: We can't discuss exchange now,we will announce when is time.
BOUNTY HUNTERS: When bounty rewards distribution?
TEAM: Wait for announcement here.

After ICO......
BOUNTY HUNTERS: When exchange?
TEAM: We are preparing announcement, wait for it.
BOUNTY HUNTERS: When bounty rewards distribution?
TEAM: We will announce here just stay tune.
TEAM: Our coin will be listed on....... on .....
BOUNTY HUNTERS: When bounty rewards distribution?
TEAM: We will announce here just stay tune

After listing...

BOUNTY HUNTERS: When bounty rewards?
TEAM: We will give the announcement in days.

After coin dumped...
TEAM: The bounty rewards will be distributed in 3 weeks.


      Bounty hunters using multiple account,
      Dev and team delaying bounty rewards until it worth nothing.
     Then who is the cheater?

I think it is impractical to delay and use some methods in order that the bounty participants will keep working without being compensated, that is why kyc is implemented in order to filter out spam accounts and filter real participants, on the part of the team and the developer itself they should be educated enough to pay the participants at the agreed time and date, extending the campaign is good long as the compensation would also be adjusted as well. Both sides should be honest of course.

[mrkavasaki]

All such people are critical, and the team of projects also does a number of other things to reduce the distribution of bonuses to bounty hunter. That is to change the way of receiving bonuses compared to the original is through ETH wallet