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June 23, 2022, 02:18:01 AM
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Governments can create cryptocurrencies similar to bitcoin, but is it decentralized or centralized? if decentralized then this is better because the market will determine, the government can continue to control prices because it has large funds, and in my opinion the most important thing is that the benefits that citizens get are able to increase welfare.
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June 23, 2022, 03:56:52 AM
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I even think otherwise. Instead, bitcoin was created as a currency that runs in a decentralized manner, which is spread, which means it is not centralized. so that no one party can regulate it arbitrarily both in price and distribution. and with its Transparency, anyone can easily see a transaction through a bitcoin explorer. and in terms of cryptographic security features it also requires that the verified data must be the same by all Bitcoin verifiers. then this will make minimal errors or data manipulation. from this concept alone is different from the will of the government which always wants to regulate everything and always wants to be centralized. so I think from here it can be seen that the maker is not from the government. instead, he was an ordinary person who was concerned about the financial system at that time. (correct me if wrong)

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June 24, 2022, 10:49:07 AM
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If previously bitcoin was found mr. satoshi then the country is certainly more capable of making cryptocurrencies, with a team and policies it will easily become a popular crypto, but I believe the government will do too much intervention such as price control so that it will move away from the concept of decentralization.
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July 03, 2022, 03:42:08 PM
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I'm so sorry, but this is a really bad conspiracy theory. States ban the use of Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies as means of payment. Because when Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are used as a means of payment, their own fiat currencies are less in demand. This causes their own fiat currencies to lose value. The situation is so clear. Why would states create something like that? Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies can only be a nuisance to them... All conspiracy theories seem like brilliant ideas at first, but they are essentially nonsense.

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July 04, 2022, 09:05:18 PM
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According to conspiracy theory, Is it possible that the bitcoin was created by governments to gain financial strength in the modern world?
Bytheway - which theory you are mentioning here. We don't know who invented bitcoin and he the real person on not. We are still unable to know that. Also
Government would not make a bitcoin - it will give power to the people and no government will do that.

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July 07, 2022, 04:57:50 AM
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As much as the thought may disgust us, we really don't so this cannot be totally discarded even if it seems counterintuitive.  But let's say if true, what is the endgame- surveillance, espionage, psychological experimentation, etc.?
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July 09, 2022, 07:30:54 AM
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There is no way that bitcoins were created by governments. What would be the benefits for a government to create a competitor against their own fiat currency? First of all, in many countries there is political pressure to ban crypto currencies. They would never do this if the government would control it. Then secondly all the big central banks are developing their digital currencies. Why would they need them if they could control bitcoins? The independence of political influence is what makes crypto currencies so attractive. Especially now in the times of high inflation it's important to have access to an asset that can't just be printed freely.
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July 16, 2022, 10:09:20 PM
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There is no way that bitcoins were created by governments. What would be the benefits for a government to create a competitor against their own fiat currency? First of all, in many countries there is political pressure to ban crypto currencies. They would never do this if the government would control it. Then secondly all the big central banks are developing their digital currencies. Why would they need them if they could control bitcoins? The independence of political influence is what makes crypto currencies so attractive. Especially now in the times of high inflation it's important to have access to an asset that can't just be printed freely.
Maybe some time in future - this would happen.
But if we talk about Bitcoins  -- not everyone is aware of bitcoins and how to use them. So regulating is not an easy option if the government even want to do it.

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July 16, 2022, 10:56:50 PM
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Your theory is baseless but a theory nevertheless. But I’m glad you acknowledged the fact that the theory originated from wild tales and rumors from conspiracy theorists aiming to push or spread a certain propaganda to mislead people.
Personally I always keep an open mind and tend to go though these theories not minding how absurd it may sound. In this case, I find it hard to believe that the government (which government exactly?) created bitcoin.
Every government has to have some sort of control over various aspects of a citizens life to be able to keep the citizen “in check”. A “normal” government would not create a structure that gives its citizens some sort of financial freedom.
Most governments round the globe has rebuked btc and tried to poison the mind of it’s citizenry against the use of btc cause it’s something they have little control over.
In my opinion, no government has a hand in the creation of bitcoin.
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July 17, 2022, 05:40:23 PM
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According to conspiracy theory, Is it possible that the bitcoin was created by governments to gain financial strength in the modern world?
Such actions on the part of the state or its government would look absolutely illogical. Why do states give someone weapons against themselves? Create a cryptocurrency, so that if you do not fight it, then have a very strong competitor to your national money? I don't see any point in this. You can assume anything, but not this. Moreover, there is no evidence for such a statement, only someone's assumptions.

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July 17, 2022, 07:03:16 PM
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There is no way that bitcoins were created by governments. What would be the benefits for a government to create a competitor against their own fiat currency? First of all, in many countries there is political pressure to ban crypto currencies. They would never do this if the government would control it. Then secondly all the big central banks are developing their digital currencies. Why would they need them if they could control bitcoins? The independence of political influence is what makes crypto currencies so attractive. Especially now in the times of high inflation it's important to have access to an asset that can't just be printed freely.
Maybe some time in future - this would happen.
But if we talk about Bitcoins  -- not everyone is aware of bitcoins and how to use them. So regulating is not an easy option if the government even want to do it.
What do you mean by maybe it happened there?
The problem of regulating is quite clear when some people in power forbid it because they are quite aware that this is something that is difficult to control so they forbid everyone to use it so that nothing can break the rules they make.
In this case it is quite clear that bitcoin is something that is very difficult to regulate but if you look now it looks like the government has also started to soften and not as hard as the initial prohibition (in my country like that). They know the ban will not have any impact and it seems they will also make improvements to the rules even though not all are legalized but there are some that they ignore for the benefit of the government itself.

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July 17, 2022, 08:14:32 PM
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... All conspiracy theories seem like brilliant ideas at first, but they are essentially nonsense.

One needs to see beyond the surface when thinking about government and their shadow operations, what you said it is true Bitcoin is an annoyance to central banks and their currencies, but that does not completely descard the posibility Bitcoin was created by an intelligence agency. It would only imply their plans got out of hand. I will give you an example:

The CIA/FBI creates Bitcoin as a alternative "anonymous" payment method/currency which they know in advance a lot of people involved in organized crime/ black market will adopt. In order to earn the trust they release the project as open source and rely only on blockchain analysis to capture their targets. They believe that eventually, when people from the dark market/ criminals realize their coins can be traced and blocked on exchanges fairly easily people will stop using Bitcoin and the project will end up abandoned, in the end they would get people in prison, that was their objective.

But it turned out the adoption, price and hashrate only increased with the years and the leftovers of their operation started a huge economical trend around the world, a market worth almost a 1 Trillion USD in BTC only.

Of course, that only an example I just made up, because I have not proof of any of that, but illustrates the fact that only because Bitcoin is contrary to the traditional banking system it is not impossible it was the creation of a team within a government.

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July 18, 2022, 03:13:53 AM
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According to conspiracy theory, Is it possible that the bitcoin was created by governments to gain financial strength in the modern world?

Who are the exponents of the conspiracy theory in bitcoin? Government will never and ever do something that will benefits everyone in the world without having control over it. The so call conspiracy theorist has no concrete stand on the argument. Government is the key players in the international market. So, anything concerning the exchange of currency, government will take full responsibility on such issue. I believe that there is no conspiracy theory says such thing, But you are the conspiracy theorist himself. Where is the link to that theorist if you not the owner of the theory. And also there is no fact on the OP thread. Government can only create physical currency and also they can create digital currency if only the physical currency is link to the digital currency. But in this case as you can see, bitcoin and fiat currencies have nothing in common. Read this link for more information   https://fullycrypto.com/did-the-u-s-government-create-bitcoin#:~:text=Bitcoin%20Was%20Not%20a%20Government%20Creation
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July 18, 2022, 04:08:07 AM
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According to conspiracy theory, Is it possible that the bitcoin was created by governments to gain financial strength in the modern world?
Any conspiracy theory can exist but think of it this way can the government develop a currency they can't control and regulate completely?. Satoshi till date has his/her or their identity hidden till date because a currency that the government can't control was the agenda. The government can't create a tool that will be used against them never no matter the strength of such technology in boast their economy.

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The government wouldn't be stupid enough to create a product that even they can't control and they even see it as an enemy working against them. Government can create anything but it will always be centralized because they want to control us all, a decentralized product will never exist in their eyes.
Satoshi is a person/team but it's amazing that they decided to remain anonymous forever. This makes bitcoin impossible to control or manage from anyone.

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July 18, 2022, 04:35:13 AM
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According to conspiracy theory, Is it possible that the bitcoin was created by governments to gain financial strength in the modern world?
Any conspiracy theory can exist but think of it this way can the government develop a currency they can't control and regulate completely?. Satoshi till date has his/her or their identity hidden till date because a currency that the government can't control was the agenda. The government can't create a tool that will be used against them never no matter the strength of such technology in boast their economy.

Unless the government has the new technology that can control the cryptocurrency in the end. Obviously we are seeing governments today experience economic struggle but are still not up to grab the opportunity to utilize BTC. Its not the solution but for a number of US states, they are already taking the chance.

Which government do you think had created BTC?
Motives I guess has to be observed. None of them yet shows they can control crypto but US has FATF. Russia has energy and China has 5G.


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July 19, 2022, 01:39:03 AM
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One needs to see beyond the surface when thinking about government and their shadow operations, what you said it is true Bitcoin is an annoyance to central banks and their currencies, but that does not completely descard the posibility Bitcoin was created by an intelligence agency. It would only imply their plans got out of hand. I will give you an example:

The CIA/FBI creates Bitcoin as a alternative "anonymous" payment method/currency which they know in advance a lot of people involved in organized crime/ black market will adopt. In order to earn the trust they release the project as open source and rely only on blockchain analysis to capture their targets. They believe that eventually, when people from the dark market/ criminals realize their coins can be traced and blocked on exchanges fairly easily people will stop using Bitcoin and the project will end up abandoned, in the end they would get people in prison, that was their objective.

But it turned out the adoption, price and hashrate only increased with the years and the leftovers of their operation started a huge economical trend around the world, a market worth almost a 1 Trillion USD in BTC only.

Of course, that only an example I just made up, because I have not proof of any of that, but illustrates the fact that only because Bitcoin is contrary to the traditional banking system it is not impossible it was the creation of a team within a government.

These conspiracy theories have been repeated over and over again. I really don't think Bitcoin was created by the government simply because it goes against what was established in the first place. Do you think a government would launch an open and decentralized currency for the world to thinker with? That would mean they're surrendering Fiat in favor of a new, global currency they can't control. The numbers just don't add up.

It doesn't matter who really created Bitcoin anyways. What matters is that people now have the ability to free themselves from the corrupt, banking system by using an alternative to Fiat that's decentralized and censorship-resistant. The community is what has kept the pioneer cryptocurrency alive even though the original creator abandoned the project a couple of years ago. If Bitcoin reached this far, then I'm pretty sure it'll last a lifetime. I'd be surprised if Bitcoin ends up beating Fiat as more people continue to lose trust in governments and banks. Just my opinion Smiley

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July 19, 2022, 03:00:08 AM
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These conspiracy theories have been repeated over and over again. I really don't think Bitcoin was created by the government simply because it goes against what was established in the first place. Do you think a government would launch an open and decentralized currency for the world to thinker with? That would mean they're surrendering Fiat in favor of a new, global currency they can't control. The numbers just don't add up.

It doesn't matter who really created Bitcoin anyways. What matters is that people now have the ability to free themselves from the corrupt, banking system by using an alternative to Fiat that's decentralized and censorship-resistant. The community is what has kept the pioneer cryptocurrency alive even though the original creator abandoned the project a couple of years ago. If Bitcoin reached this far, then I'm pretty sure it'll last a lifetime. I'd be surprised if Bitcoin ends up beating Fiat as more people continue to lose trust in governments and banks. Just my opinion Smiley

Indeed, I don't really care who Satoshi is, because he decided to remain anonymous and we should respect that decision. But I'm sure it can't be the government, the governments are trying to find a way to stop bitcoin so it can't be their creation, if bitcoin is centralized then we can be suspicious.

Bitcoin has been helping us reduce our reliance on fiat and banking, which is great but I don't expect it to beat fiat and banking. This will only increase tension between the government and bitcoin.

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July 19, 2022, 03:01:11 AM
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Not so sure this can be done by the government as the holder of power, bitcoin cannot be created in large numbers, because bitcoin adoption has reached its highest point since they were here, conspiracy theorists do see an opportunity to create something, but it's different with centralized bitcoin and can't be duplicated by anyone, the financial power is due to the development of bitcoin up to this point, the government doesn't have too much access to it
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July 20, 2022, 07:28:14 PM
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I'm sure it can't be the government, the governments are trying to find a way to stop bitcoin so it can't be their creation,
But, if ever governments are behind btc, they need to do that. They need to say that bitcoin is a threat to them so that people won't ever suspect them and so what anyway if we found out that btc is created by the governments? But I believe that some will like it and they will feel more confident. Usually, they are those who use btc as an asset and there are some that will try to distance their selves on btc after knowing the real truth. Usually, they are those who use btc as a currency.

if bitcoin is centralized then we can be suspicious.
What about those regulations that are being approved lately? The kyc? You didn't feel suspicious after knowing that they are now required when dealing with bitcoins?

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