Does Martingale Work?

[harizen]

Martingale "does works". If doesn't then the term shouldn't be not existed here in gambling world.

It's just that it "doesn't always works" since aside from the betting style, people have to consider the house edge and other factors.

There is also a type of gambling where martingale is effective*. Just don't used that style on long term betting or it might wrecked your precious wallet.

The only way Martingale works is when you have unlimited amount of money.

You can't. Gambling sites does have bet limits.

[khaled0111]

You should have a huge capital to start with to be able to double the betted ammount if you lose many times in a raw.
Also, you should know when to stop playing, you should not be greedy.
Anyway, few are the casinos that will let you use the martingale strategy.

[Dreamchaser21]

i lost too much money when i try that strategy i doesn't work for me sadly ... i give up just litte bit luck thats all

This is the result of this strategy and we should not continue using this one. Almost all the comments here are negative so technically, Martingale is not working well. In gambling your luck is important, no matter what your strategies are you will still ended up losing the money if you’re not lucky.

[imstillthebest]

You should have a huge capital to start with to be able to double the betted ammount if you lose many times in a raw.

I use martingale all the time whenever i play dice games  but i dont have a huge capital  . what i do is i first bet 0.00000001 sats , i roll the dice and wait for it to loose three times in a row after that i then max my bets  . if i loose i quit and if i won ill try again .

Also, you should know when to stop playing, you should not be greedy.

Thats the key to win using any strategy not just only for martingale .

Anyway, few are the casinos that will let you use the martingale strategy.

All casino allows any strategy  but all have different probability of winning  .

i lost too much money when i try that strategy i doesn't work for me sadly ... i give up just litte bit luck thats all

Its either your not doing it right or you are too greedy . or maybe you are just badluck when it comes to gambling .

[rodel caling]

Depends on the lucky day during playing ib casino first roll got loss double the bet isn't good idea for because how about 3x i got loss so 3x i increase my bet ithink that idea isn't advisable those people playing in casino get fun not to find source of income.

[cryptovigi]

An interesting post ... in theory this strategy seems to be perfect but as many of you already pointed out there is need to have... an unlimited resources and one more thing - possibility of placing unlimited bets ...

It's amazing that starting from $ 1 at the tenth plant in a row we are already at the level of 512 dollars, with the twenties it is 524 thousand dollars and 30 is already half a billion - interesting which casino will accept such a bet (and how many chips will it be )
but that's all - look at what is happening at the 30th bet - the last bet is on the table - over half a billion (on the way I have already dipped 29 times so I have bet on over $ 1 billion in all these bets if the last 30 bets are won the whole one dollar !!!! - is it a joke???!!!

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bet              worth of bet               increasing value	      real win
1	          $1,00	                    $1,00	              $1,00
2	          $2,00	                    $3,00	              $1,00
3	          $4,00	                    $7,00	              $1,00
4	          $8,00	                    $15,00	              $1,00
5	          $16,00	            $31,00	              $1,00
6	          $32,00	            $63,00	              $1,00
7	          $64,00	            $127,00	              $1,00
8	          $128,00	            $255,00	              $1,00
9	          $256,00	            $511,00	              $1,00
10	          $512,00	            $1 023,00	              $1,00
11	          $1 024,00	            $2 047,00	              $1,00
12	          $2 048,00	            $4 095,00	              $1,00
13	          $4 096,00	            $8 191,00	              $1,00
14	          $8 192,00	            $16 383,00	              $1,00
15	          $16 384,00	            $32 767,00	              $1,00
16	          $32 768,00	            $65 535,00	              $1,00
17	          $65 536,00	            $131 071,00	              $1,00
18	          $131 072,00	            $262 143,00	              $1,00
19	          $262 144,00	            $524 287,00	              $1,00
20	          $524 288,00	            $1 048 575,00	      $1,00
21	          $1 048 576,00	            $2 097 151,00	      $1,00
22	          $2 097 152,00	            $4 194 303,00	      $1,00
23	          $4 194 304,00	            $8 388 607,00	      $1,00
24	          $8 388 608,00	            $16 777 215,00	      $1,00
25	          $16 777 216,00	    $33 554 431,00	      $1,00
26	          $33 554 432,00	    $67 108 863,00	      $1,00
27	          $67 108 864,00	    $134 217 727,00	      $1,00
28	          $134 217 728,00	    $268 435 455,00	      $1,00
29	          $268 435 456,00	    $536 870 911,00	      $1,00
30	          $536 870 912,00	    $1 073 741 823,00         $1,00

taking into account that we still have to set up unlimited resources - there is no point doubling the bet - we have to at least triple it - then the win will be half of the last bet, that is, it starts to make sense ...
Although in this case the one dollar in the first bet changes into billion in the 20th bet, but the possible win looks much better

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bet              worth of bet               increasing value	      real win
1	           $1,00	           $1,00	              $1,00
2	           $3,00	           $4,00	              $2,00
3	           $9,00	           $13,00	              $5,00
4	           $27,00	           $40,00	              $14,00
5	           $81,00	           $121,00	              $41,00
6	           $243,00	           $364,00	              $122,00
7	           $729,00	           $1 093,00	              $365,00
8	           $2 187,00	           $3 280,00	              $1 094,00
9	           $6 561,00	           $9 841,00	              $3 281,00
10	           $19 683,00	           $29 524,00	              $9 842,00
11	           $59 049,00	           $88 573,00	              $29 525,00
12	           $177 147,00	           $265 720,00	              $88 574,00
13	           $531 441,00	           $797 161,00	              $265 721,00
14	           $1 594 323,00	   $2 391 484,00	      $797 162,00
15	           $4 782 969,00	   $7 174 453,00	      $2 391 485,00
16	           $14 348 907,00	   $21 523 360,00	      $7 174 454,00
17	           $43 046 721,00 	   $64 570 081,00	      $21 523 361,00
18	           $129 140 163,00	   $193 710 244,00	      $64 570 082,00
19	           $387 420 489,00 	   $581 130 733,00	      $193 710 245,00
20	           $1 162 261 467,00	   $1 743 392 200,00	      $581 130 734,00

i'm wonder how the change from doubling to tripling previous bet would change your test...

[Shinpako09]

Martingale really works but only in short term. If you used it in the long run, you'll eventually lose even if you have a big bankroll. If martingale works perfectly, online gambling won't boom as of now and many casinos will get bankrupt easily. I've tried it when I was new in dice. The experience was good until I got 20red streak which I thought before is impossible to happen. Since I stopped using it, I didn't used it again up to now and don't want to use it again ever.

[Natalim]

You don't have to make things complicated, martingale is just a betting strategy what's important is you know how to win and when there is a house edge, there's no way your winning moment will last. Even how many times you will try, I believe you will still end up a loser in the end.
The fact that you don't put any target amount of your max winning, that will make you a loser.

[emberbekas]

Martingale really works but only in short term. If you used it in the long run, you'll eventually lose even if you have a big bankroll. If martingale works perfectly, online gambling won't boom as of now and many casinos will get bankrupt easily. I've tried it when I was new in dice. The experience was good until I got 20red streak which I thought before is impossible to happen. Since I stopped using it, I didn't used it again up to now and don't want to use it again ever.

Every betting strategy, if we use it repeatedly, will definitely give us bad results. In gambling, there are times when we are lucky and vice versa. The important stuff is how we manage our money, in the hope of earning profit or at least not losing too much money through gambling. Martingale will work at some points but there is no guarantee that we will get the expected result all the time.

[adaseb]

I've done similiar coding before and tried to find some "holy grail" strategy using Microsoft Excel and had little luck.

Basically with a house edge even at 0.1% , you will always go bust when time -> infinity.

I tried to do strategies like "Only bet big after 15 losses in a row", or "Only bet big after 20 losses in a row" and the results were all the same. No actual edge was given.

Thanks for posting this. Gave you some merit for your hard work.

[cryptovigi]

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Every betting strategy, if we use it repeatedly, will definitely give us bad results. In gambling, there are times when we are lucky and vice versa.
...

Otherwords... there are no good betting strategy at all... it's always all about the luck...
not too good, but maybe that's why we call it gambling?

[arco-yabamba]

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[Tytanowy Janusz]

i'm wonder how the change from doubling to tripling previous bet would change your test...

Code:

Limit: 
1000000
How manny tests
100000
When you want to quit?
2000000
Casino lost with 43645 gamblers out of 100000. Each of them took home 2000000$

It worked well. 43% probability of doubling - 27% in original strategy. Well if by increasing multiplier we increase probability than it would be wise to check what's with x5.

Code:

...
Casino lost with 41757 gamblers out of 100000. Each of them took home 2000000$

x10

Code:

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Casino lost with 40811 gamblers out of 100000. Each of them took home 2000000$

and x100

Code:

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Casino lost with 40476 gamblers out of 100000. Each of them took home 2000000$

It looks like x2 is extremely unprofitable. Increasing multiplier instantly boost performance until we reach 3. Further increasing is not changing probability significantly. From my observations of different strategies results that every strategy that makes us spend more time in casino in fact lowers our probability to double. It seems that putting all portfolio on red gives 48% probability of doubling and that's optimal strategy.
Changing multiplier worked because we actually spend much much less time in Casio (quicker bankruptcy or double).

Code:

Limit: 
1000000
How manny tests
10000
average rolls 14334.34 average out 895105.78
average loss -104894 in 29.86 days (one bet per minute, 8h daily), which is -439.06 per hour
richest: 163621691 after 3 years

x3 let us spend in casino 29,8 days on average in compare with 2580 days with x2. Thats close to 100 times less with 50% multiplier increase.

[Fredomago]

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Every betting strategy, if we use it repeatedly, will definitely give us bad results. In gambling, there are times when we are lucky and vice versa.
...

Otherwords... there are no good betting strategy at all... it's always all about the luck...
not too good, but maybe that's why we call it gambling?

Completely right, that's all about luck and nothing else behind that,  this kinds of shares are just a basis and nothing really make
it better unless you are a lucky gambler that be able to quit while some profits still inside your bankroll.

[Johnyz]

n ono n on no n ono no no no n ono n no no no no no n on n on no no no no no no nonon on no

Lol. This is too much but yeah its convincing.
I also disagree that Martingale works because i lose money before because I tried to do this and then after that, I don’t used any strategies. Maybe in gambling, some strategies will work fine on your first try but it will not last since the house will always win.

[arco-yabamba]

n ono n on no n ono no no no n ono n no no no no no n on n on no no no no no no nonon on no

Lol. This is too much but yeah its convincing.
I also disagree that Martingale works because i lose money before because I tried to do this and then after that, I don’t used any strategies. Maybe in gambling, some strategies will work fine on your first try but it will not last since the house will always win.

You're right, it was too much lol. But there is no other answer.

Of course, for new people to the question... it can always be interesting to explore in theory. But we need to be very clear - martingale is not a good real-life idea.

[Oceat]

The only way Martingale works is when you have unlimited amount of money. Otherwise, the house edge always wins. It works well for the first few times though. You could get away with profits but if you keep doing it, you are bound to go down with nothing.

Nah, i don't believe this because if there is a house you were the one that is going to lose after all. Not if you are so lucky to win, thus betting is by chance of luck though there are some games that don't require luck but only with skills. I guess skills may be a good match of martingale to ensure your winnings.

[cryptovigi]

One idea came to my mind...

OP could you modify your application to check how many times in row roulette should give "red"

I'd like to see something like:

"roulette gave
1 red in row 35.752 times
2 red in row 12.258 times
3 red in row 4.659 times
4 red in row 3.215 times
...
15 red in row 24 times
16 red in row 5 times"

could you check it? Thanks in advance....

[Indrawan77]

Martingale technique has been proved that it cannot make the gambler win in long term, its because the capital we got is limited, the house edge and the losing chance is bigger if we play for the long time, but if you play safe and know when to stop then you can make profit with martingale, but it won't work every time, set your stop limit will make you got better strategy to make profit

[nydiacaskey01]

Loss again. Even worst - 27% chances to double. That's because with higher limit you have to earn more to double. This simulation shows that Martingale simply don't work and is worse than betting everything on red and going home. Gambling should be considered as fun with luck. Every strategy would destroy you and your brain. Go, bet earn/loos have fun but don't thing that with special strategy you have chance to win repetitively and earn for living. Well you can but due to luck ... net math and strategy.

I agree! Gambling is a game of chance not a game of strategy. Even if you say you play a poker game which is also a game where you need to have skills in bluffing and reading your opponents body language, still if your opponent gets a better card than yours then no strategy or skill can beat that.