Antivaccination propaganda here and there.

[dogtana]

Some people have proven medical causes that prevents them from being vaccinated. Some 5% don't develop immunity and some lose it. That's why herd immunity is needed.

A person who won't vaccinate their children should not have children.

How many people does one antivaxxer need to cause illness and possibly death of to feel some guilt?

If my child got infected from a child of antivaxxer and in my child's case the vaccine failed... I would find that antivaxxer and make them accept responsibility.

[BADecker]

^^^ Herd immunity regarding non-lethal things like measles, help to naturally "vaccinate" against more dangerous things.

Vaccination reduces the effect of true heard immunity, natural herd immunity. It not only destroys health, but it is the cause for lack of natural immunity from many other things. And, it gets worse the more vaccinations are used to try to make up for lost herd immunity brought about by vaccination.

This might not be bad if the safety tests had been done. Now we are finding out that immunization is what is causing things like autism and ADHD, etc.

[dogtana]

Measels can be lethal, they can cause blindness, deafness and permanent brain damage. You are wellcome to try them but if my kid gets them from someone unvaccinated just because he is the unlucky 5% vaccine didn't work for, I will come after them.

Millions and millions of people have been vaccinated and they have no health problems. I am thankful my parents took care that I got all the vaccines.

The claims about autism are fabricated, proven untrue.

Of course you can't get autism if you die from polio.

[bitmover]

Yup, we've hit it on the head here. We don't need vaccinations or modern science. Let's go back to the good old days when people lived to the ripe old age of 25-30.

That´s a great graphic. It´s impressive the evolution of life expectancy.
However not everyone died at 25-30 as this graphic may lead people to believe.

Human beings are hitting ages of 80+ or more since the beginning of times. not everyone, ofc, but a small elite.
Plato for example lived for 81 years in Greece, 400 b.C.

Vaccinations are certainly a great way to improve life expectancy for the masses and less privileged classes. As I don´t have a lot of knowledge about the subject, i gave my son all vaccinations that were recommended, and I don´t regret, neither noticed any negative effect.

[tvbcof]

That´s a great graphic. It´s impressive the evolution of life expectancy.
...

Actually it's a great graphic which isn't related to vaccinations.  It shows mostly the time-frame when sanitation became a much more well understood and more widely implemented.

Here's a great graphic which shows something interesting about when the U.S. started really ramping up the dosing of vaccines (early 80's) and when the pharmaceutical industry got blanket financial immunity from congress for any harm done by vaccines (mid 80's):

  

[BADecker]

Do you think things will be better for NYC?


Why didn’t California’s vaccine mandate stop the measles?

On June 30, 2015, then-California Governor Jerry Brown signed into law the infamous Senate Bill 277, an authoritarian legislative bill proudly sponsored and aggressively pushed by Senator Richard Pan of Sacramento that eliminated all vaccine exemptions throughout the Golden State, save for those considered to be medical in nature – meaning only licensed doctors are allowed to sign off on them.

Co-sponsored by Sen. Ben Allen of Redondo Beach, SB 277 was supposed to eliminate all measles outbreaks, or so we were told, like the one that occurred at Disneyland back in 2014, which Pan blamed on children who hadn’t been vaccinated with Merck & Co.’s MMR vaccine for measles, mumps, and rubella.

But if Pan’s claims about unvaccinated children causing measles outbreaks like this are actually true, then why is California right now experiencing what the mainstream media is describing as a “serious” measles outbreak, more than four years after SB 277 became law, that’s reportedly already led to at least two public college campuses having to quarantine their students and faculty?

According to official news reports, more than 200 students and faculty members just in the Southern California area have been confirmed to have measles, and all of them were recently ordered to stay home and avoid all contact with others – but how is this scenario even possible with Pan’s disease-preventing vaccine legislation in place?

The only reasonable and logical answer, of course, is that, even when vaccines are mandated basically at gunpoint, they don’t actually stop disease outbreaks. And in the case of measles, anyway, the MMR vaccine, which has repeatedly been shown to cause autism, doesn’t even work as claimed at preventing measles.

[BADecker]

Check the links to see that this is true. And my previous post as well.


Measles vaccines kill more children than the measles… and it’s not even close

With all of the hysteria and fear-mongering about measles that’s sweeping mainstream media headlines these days, one might assume that children everywhere are dropping dead from this chickenpox-like infection. But according to official data from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), not a single person has died while being infected with measles in more than 15 years.

On the other hand, it’s an undeniable fact that at least 100 people have died as a consequence of receiving the MMR vaccine for measles, mumps, and rubella, which we’ve all been told by government health authorities, is supposed to protect against measles.

As is now obvious to everyone who’s actually paying attention, the MMR vaccine is actually far more dangerous than measles itself, which back in the 1950s and 1960s was joked about in television shows like “The Brady Bunch” for being a harmless rite of passage from childhood into adulthood.

Back in 2014, CDC Director for the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases told the Associated Press that there hasn’t been a measles-associated death since 2003. This claim was more recently confirmed by the CDC’s Division of Viral Diseases, which again reiterated in an email that there have been no measles-associated deaths in the U.S. since 2003.

It’s important to also keep in mind that even those very few deaths reported in 2003 and prior may not have actually been caused by measles, as the CDC merely tracks deaths that coincide with measles infections – much like the CDC, as well as the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA), do with data targeting raw milk.

[BADecker]

Hey! We need the medical! If the truth ever came out, just think of the sudden change to the economy in unknown ways. If the truth came out (like it is coming), a big multi $billion dollar industry would vanish, and millions of people would be out of jobs. The economy would be in upheaval.

Grin and bare your arm (or butt) for those vaccines. It might kill you, but it will save millions of jobs, and the whole economy... maybe of the world.


The CDC Tells Mothers to Stop Breastfeeding for Vaccine Efficacy

What is described here is absurd.  Natural immunity is our actual birthright and sustaining that as long as possible is possible through breast feeding.  Meddling with all this is hugely counter productive.
Yet they are trying of course.   Postponing all immunization is certainly indicated to months past the end of breast feeding at least.
 The need to create markets has had a baleful effect of the science who are hardly asked to advise.



Do you remember a time when nature trumped the pharmaceutical industry? When your immune system got the respect and benefit of the doubt it deserved? Sad to say, if you are an 80’s or 90’s baby, you were born into a world where pharmaceuticals are considered miracle drugs and overshadow anything your body can naturally do in it’s own. We are not just being programmed to believe our bodies natural abilities are crap but also being persuaded by the very people we should trust to have our best interest, the CDC.

Ten researchers from the CDC’s National Centers for Immunization and Respiratory Disease (NCIRD) released a report, entitled Inhibitory effect of breast milk on infectivity of live oral rotavirus vaccines. The report states that the immune boosting properties of breast milk have a detrimental effect on how well vaccines work. The report didn’t just stop there, it goes on to say that, rather than stop vaccines while breastfeeding so your child can gain natural immunity, women should instead stop breastfeeding to allow vaccines to do their job.

[BADecker]

In fact, no one can say, scientifically, that any one of the 70 vaccine doses currently recommended for American children saves more lives than it costs.

Click the links in the article, itself.


Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.’s Response to “The Message of Measles” —What The New Yorker Wouldn’t Publish

CHD NOTE: In late August 2019, New Yorker magazine published an article written by staff writer, Nick Paumgarten, entitled, "The Message of Measles." In the article, Mr. Paumgarten criticized Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.'s beliefs and advocacy. After contacting numerous New Yorker editors, the magazine has refused to publish Mr. Kennedy's response. If his response had been published, New Yorker readers would know that the latest published science supports that vaccines are contributing to the chronic disease epidemic in children and that government officials systematically obscure the risks while exaggerating the benefits of vaccines, including the MMR. They would also be reminded that the government has no right to coerce healthy Americans to submit to risky medical procedures.

By Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.

 

The gravamen of Nick Paumgarten's article in the New Yorker on the measles vaccine is his argument that the people he derisively terms "anti-vaxxers" are irrational since the risks of vaccines are so low and the rewards so enormous. In my experience, virtually all so called "anti-vaxxers" are parents of vaccine-injured children whose personal tragedies provoked them to look closely at the complex science supporting that risk/reward assertion and to rationally conclude that government officials – with well-documented conflicts of interest with the $50 billion vaccine industry – systematically obscure the risks while exaggerating the benefits of vaccines including the MMR.

In fact, no one can say, scientifically, that any one of the 70 vaccine doses currently recommended for American children saves more lives than it costs.

Mr. Paumgarten falls into this trap by parroting the industry canard that measles will kill 1 in 1000 infected Americans. But CDC's mortality and morbidity data suggest that measles fatalities in the pre-vaccine era were 1/500,000 population wide; 1 in 10,000 among infected individuals. In fact, no one can say, scientifically, that any one of the 70 vaccine doses currently recommended for American children saves more lives than it costs. That question can only be answered by studies that compare long-term health outcomes in vaccinated versus unvaccinated populations. Despite concerns over inadequate safety science by the Institute of Medicine, the ultimate arbiter of vaccine safety science, captive regulators at HHS have refused to perform such studies and have exempted vaccine-makers from performing randomized placebo-controlled tests prior to licensing. HHS requires such studies for virtually all other pharmaceutical products. That means that no one knows vaccine risk profiles. Mr. Paumgarten makes little effort to advance the debate. He makes no mention of the MMR's well-documented danger signals.

Studies support an unconscionably high injury rate from MMR. Merck's own MMR pre-licensure studies found that 40% of children receiving the MMR suffered gastrointestinal illnesses within 42 days of the injection and 55% suffered respiratory illnesses – symptoms that might persuade rational consumers to choose the infections over the vaccine.

Merck acknowledges that an astonishing 26% of post-pubertal females might develop arthritis and arthralgia from the MMR.

The MMR's package insert includes an almost two-page listing of over 60 adverse reactions ranging from vomiting and irritability to permanent brain damage to anaphylaxis. The Institute of Medicine has repeatedly pointed out CDC's failure to perform the studies necessary to confirm whether MMR is causing these injuries. Merck acknowledges that an astonishing 26% of post-pubertal females might develop arthritis and arthralgia from the MMR.

A 2017 letter published in the British Medical Journal cited research showing that children receiving the MMR vaccine had five times the seizure rate of children with measles infections. A 2004 JAMA study found that an additional 1 in 640 children has seizures after MMR compared to unvaccinated children; about 5% of these will progress to epilepsy.

HHS's voluntary post-marketing surveillance program on vaccines, VAERS, reports over 89,000 adverse reactions to MMR through March 31, 2018, including 445 deaths. However, VAERS is a voluntary and notoriously ineffective system. VAERS captures "fewer than 1% of vaccine injuries" according to a 2010 HHS funded study performed by another federal agency, the Agency for Health Care Research and Quality (AHRQ). If you multiply the known adverse events from the MMR by 100, you get 44,500 deaths and 8,900,000 injuries making the measles vaccine far worse than measles. That AHRQ pilot study reported a possible reaction for 2.6% of vaccinations. When CDC officials saw these alarming figures, they quickly cancelled a machine-counting system that would have provided better tracking of vaccine safety.

[Lapatai]

I just don't understand.

Vaccines was first tried in 1796, that is over 220 years from now.
Since then it was developed to fight against diseases that wiped out a lot of people earlier. Most of deadly diseases then are extinct now.

Why suddenly we started to move backwards? Because some activists have nothing else to do?

[BADecker]

I just don't understand.

Vaccines was first tried in 1796, that is over 220 years from now.
Since then it was developed to fight against diseases that wiped out a lot of people earlier. Most of deadly diseases then are extinct now.

Why suddenly we started to move backwards? Because some activists have nothing else to do?

No, here is the answer.

The stuff we call "vaccines" today, is different than the stuff that vaccines were made out of 200 years ago.

Vaccines in the past didn't work sometimes. But when they did, it wasn't from adding all kinds of aluminum and mercury and monkey cancer and even literal shit to them like we do today. It was the literal dead viruses in the vaccines that did the work back then. But...

Plagues run their courses and disappear and die without vaccination. We don't know for a fact that destruction of diseases through vaccination wouldn't have happened anyway. There is essentially no way to get vaccinated, and know what would have happened if you hadn't. The fact is, that if vaccines worked, we wouldn't have to add all the other junk to them.

Chances are that in the more distant past, vaccines barely worked sometimes, and that this has been covered up for years... that it was something else other than vaccines that did the job. If vaccines worked, they wouldn't have to add all the other junk to them that they do today.

I would say that 90% of vaccine efficacy is propaganda. And I am not the only one. Take a look at what Kennedy says - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5113094.msg52437048#msg52437048.

[BADecker]

Notice the picture of the monkey. Back in the 1950s and '60s, there were raw monkey parts in the polio vaccines. These parts introduced cancer and polio into the people that thought the vaccines were protecting them. Nobody has ever been sent to prison for this, and it is barely being acknowledged by government and the medical. Go to the website, which has a CDC chart that confirms this.

True, what's done is done. But what are the new threats in the latest vaccines that are not being talked about, and that are not being safety tested to find? And particularly, Why do people and the government still trust the medical?


What the CDC Won't Tell You About SV40, Polio Vaccines and Cancer

This still blows us away. No one has ever been held accountable. Nothing has ever been done.

“The chief, if not the sole, cause of the monstrous increase in cancer has been vaccination” – Dr. Robert Bell, fmr VP International Society for Cancer Research at the British Cancer Hospital

The public was kept in the dark for decades about tens of millions of polio vaccines laced with SV40, and its implications for the widespread epidemic of cancer.

The relevant facts were known by the scientific community back in 1960, but it wasn’t until lawsuits and investigative reports in the 1990s and a Congressional hearing in 2003 that the public was informed about the scale of the contamination and its possible link to many of the deadly forms of cancer spreading today. Yet little has been acknowledged in public discussion since that point.

In the aftermath of these admissions and inquiries, the CDC launched a fact sheet page on its website addressing the links between “Cancer, Simian Virus 40 (SV40), and Polio Vaccine” which noted the discovery of SV40, its presence in an estimated 10-30 million doses of polio vaccine and disputed scientific claims concerning its presence in cancer tumors and its possible role in causation.

What the CDC Won't Tell You About SV40, Polio Vaccines and Cancer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8M3HOqOAdU

[lighpulsar07]

This is getting worse antivaccination campaign should be stopped all diseases that are eradicated long time ago are coming back and it's not good at all.

There is no medical claim came from official medical websites that measles vaccine causes autism, HPV vaccine cause infertility and paralysis, Vaccine don't contain parts of a monkey.
But this is what i know.

Measles can lead up to encephalitis and leads to coma and death
German Measles can cause Congenital rubella syndrome (CRS) to infants if the pregnant mother contracts german measles
Polio can paralyze and leads up to death
HPV can cause STDs and Cancer
Hepa B can kills if not can cause Liver Cancer


So please, vaccinate your child don't listen to anti vaxxers at all cost if you want your child live.

[inanilujimi]

So please, vaccinate your child don't listen to anti vaxxers at all cost if you want your child live.

my child was not given the vaccine but until now he is healthy and fit.
not a vaccine that guarantees safety and health but a healthy lifestyle is more effective than any vaccine.
every child has his immunity so I will never receive a vaccine from the government or the private sector.

[lighpulsar07]

So please, vaccinate your child don't listen to anti vaxxers at all cost if you want your child live.

~SNIP

You know, boosting the immune system isn't enough to combat dangerous diseases alone you need immunizations i myself completed immunization and nothing happened to me.

Well good luck to your child i hope that you realized one day that you made a big mistake before one of your children contracts dangerous diseases. Just take care your child at all costs and avoid him to sick children

[tvbcof]

...
Measles can lead up to encephalitis and leads to coma and death
German Measles can cause Congenital rubella syndrome (CRS) to infants if the pregnant mother contracts german measles
Polio can paralyze and leads up to death
HPV can cause STDs and Cancer
Hepa B can kills if not can cause Liver Cancer
...

Put numbers on this stuff if you want people to take it seriously.  You know:  like "5000 per 100,000 prior to widespread use of the vaccine"

When I look at this stuff, the rates of, say, mortality for measles is amazingly low, both historically and now.  On the other hand, half of the kids in America are now on prescription meds.  That's 50,000 per 100,000.

All of the so-called 'medical professionals' who know for sure that the vaccines have nothing to do with the rate of, say, allergies and auto-immunity issues claim they have no idea what's causing the alarming rates.  The only thing they seem to 'know' is that vaccines have absolutely nothing to do with it.  When you dig into it you find that studies demonstrating safety are just flat out missing, or showed a problem and were covered up much of the time.  Almost without exception the money for what purposefully defective studies do exist comes from big pharma by one route or another.  Often through 'grants' to academic institutions.

[lighpulsar07]

Notice the picture of the monkey. Back in the 1950s and '60s, there were raw monkey parts in the polio vaccines. These parts introduced cancer and polio into the people that thought the vaccines were protecting them. Nobody has ever been sent to prison for this, and it is barely being acknowledged by government and the medical. Go to the website, which has a CDC chart that confirms this.

True, what's done is done. But what are the new threats in the latest vaccines that are not being talked about, and that are not being safety tested to find? And particularly, Why do people and the government still trust the medical?


What the CDC Won't Tell You About SV40, Polio Vaccines and Cancer

This still blows us away. No one has ever been held accountable. Nothing has ever been done.

“The chief, if not the sole, cause of the monstrous increase in cancer has been vaccination” – Dr. Robert Bell, fmr VP International Society for Cancer Research at the British Cancer Hospital

The public was kept in the dark for decades about tens of millions of polio vaccines laced with SV40, and its implications for the widespread epidemic of cancer.

The relevant facts were known by the scientific community back in 1960, but it wasn’t until lawsuits and investigative reports in the 1990s and a Congressional hearing in 2003 that the public was informed about the scale of the contamination and its possible link to many of the deadly forms of cancer spreading today. Yet little has been acknowledged in public discussion since that point.

In the aftermath of these admissions and inquiries, the CDC launched a fact sheet page on its website addressing the links between “Cancer, Simian Virus 40 (SV40), and Polio Vaccine” which noted the discovery of SV40, its presence in an estimated 10-30 million doses of polio vaccine and disputed scientific claims concerning its presence in cancer tumors and its possible role in causation.

What the CDC Won't Tell You About SV40, Polio Vaccines and Cancer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8M3HOqOAdU

do you have any articles coming from the official science and medical news supporting your claim?

You don't know these medical professional were doing just make you safe from these diseases and you still doubt on them

if i were you stay from the hospitals and don't go near them if you need medical emergency or anything just go your priest and ask them to heal okay?

[BADecker]

Notice the picture of the monkey. Back in the 1950s and '60s, there were raw monkey parts in the polio vaccines. These parts introduced cancer and polio into the people that thought the vaccines were protecting them. Nobody has ever been sent to prison for this, and it is barely being acknowledged by government and the medical. Go to the website, which has a CDC chart that confirms this.

True, what's done is done. But what are the new threats in the latest vaccines that are not being talked about, and that are not being safety tested to find? And particularly, Why do people and the government still trust the medical?


What the CDC Won't Tell You About SV40, Polio Vaccines and Cancer

http://truthstreammedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/sv40monkey-820x394.jpg

This still blows us away. No one has ever been held accountable. Nothing has ever been done.

“The chief, if not the sole, cause of the monstrous increase in cancer has been vaccination” – Dr. Robert Bell, fmr VP International Society for Cancer Research at the British Cancer Hospital

The public was kept in the dark for decades about tens of millions of polio vaccines laced with SV40, and its implications for the widespread epidemic of cancer.

The relevant facts were known by the scientific community back in 1960, but it wasn’t until lawsuits and investigative reports in the 1990s and a Congressional hearing in 2003 that the public was informed about the scale of the contamination and its possible link to many of the deadly forms of cancer spreading today. Yet little has been acknowledged in public discussion since that point.

In the aftermath of these admissions and inquiries, the CDC launched a fact sheet page on its website addressing the links between “Cancer, Simian Virus 40 (SV40), and Polio Vaccine” which noted the discovery of SV40, its presence in an estimated 10-30 million doses of polio vaccine and disputed scientific claims concerning its presence in cancer tumors and its possible role in causation.

What the CDC Won't Tell You About SV40, Polio Vaccines and Cancer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8M3HOqOAdU

do you have any articles coming from the official science and medical news supporting your claim?

You don't know these medical professional were doing just make you safe from these diseases and you still doubt on them

if i were you stay from the hospitals and don't go near them if you need medical emergency or anything just go your priest and ask them to heal okay?

Part of the point is that government requires the medical to provide safety reports. Since they don't have any, how can I show them to you?

Have you NOT checked through this thread and others like it? They are full of references to tests being done by private sources that show that vaccines are not safe.

I stay away from hospitals as much as I can. Perhaps you should take up residence in one of them. They are kinda like hotels. Get a room on the 6th floor so that you have a good view of the city. Btw, look into how simply being in a hospital can cause you to contract all kinds of diseases that are floating around in the air, through the hospital ventilation systems.

[BADecker]

This is so sad. People work so hard all their lives, trying to serve other people, and then this happens to their family.

Bernie, I don't agree with your political policies, but I understand what family emotional pain is like, and I send my condolences.


Bernie Sanders’ daughter-in-law, 46, dies of cancer just days after it was revealed that vaccines are laced with cancer-imprinted DNA from aborted human babies

In a shocking turn of events, Dr. Rainè Riggs, the daughter-in-law of Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders, has reportedly died from neuroendocrine cancer.

The 46-year-old mother of three had been diagnosed just two days prior to her sudden passing, and just days after we reported on a new discovery out of Italy linking vaccines to cancer.

Riggs, who was married to Bernie’s son Levi, is said to have fallen ill just three weeks before her death, and initially doctors were “stumped” as to what was wrong with her. However, just a few days later Riggs was diagnosed with the deadly disease, and two days after that she passed.

“How can the world ever be the same when it said goodbye to such a beautiful soul?” wrote Riggs’ family about this woman, who had earned her doctorate in neuropsychology from The University of Vermont, and dedicated her life to the practice of medicine and psychology.

[TwitchySeal]

Most anti-vaxers  are also climate change deniers.

Long term this is a good thing for the planet as natural selection will gradually reduce the number of climate change deniers because they think vaccines are a scam.