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February 24, 2019, 11:50:58 AM
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Just seen this post My account has been banned.... and noticed that plagiarism has now 30days and signature banned for 2 years duration (not sure if this is newly implemented).


Is this only applicable to current plagiarism case? What about users who are banned more than 30days?  
Will this help our forum on addressing plagiarism case (talking about newbies and old shitposters copy and paste case)?

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Everything is case-by-case.

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February 24, 2019, 12:11:03 PM
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It's definitely not new, there was a similar case recently - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1590420

Use the search function and you will find even more examples, dating back to 2017. For example: here




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February 24, 2019, 12:15:41 PM
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It looks like a good idea. Newbies should still read the rules when they join, but it seems most don't.

I guess it's a trait of human nature.  Sometimes when I buy a product, I try to get it working, and if I fail, then I resort to reading the instructions. It reminds me of some 3.5" floppy disks that I used to sell. They came in a nice storage box, but the problem was that the instructions about opening the box were locked inside the box.

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February 24, 2019, 12:27:05 PM
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Everything is case-by-case.
Thank you for your prompt reply, theymos.

Use the search function and you will find even more examples, dating back to 2017. For example: here
You just sent suggestions not the implementation (also your example is 2018, not 2017) and of course I used search feature.

Newbies should still read the rules when they join, but it seems most don't.
Exactly.

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February 24, 2019, 12:41:44 PM
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Everything is case-by-case.
really?   Undecided would be the case to trust abusers?
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February 24, 2019, 12:43:27 PM
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That's something exactly what I was asking for in the following thread!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5104710.0
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February 24, 2019, 01:07:41 PM
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Everything is case-by-case.
OMG Shocked!. nice new implementation. Wink


It's definitely not new, there was a similar case recently - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1590420

Use the search function and you will find even more examples, dating back to 2017. For example: here
It is clearly new and I can see that you're new here. The irony in your reply is too high, you should do your research. OP is talking about implementation about plagiarism ain't suggestions or any other cases of ban.
Do not post just for post count on your signature campaign, add something interested.


Which means ChiBitCTy can now post to this forum as part of our community again.
Not sure, theymos reply fast in this topic without any @theymos on the title subject.




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February 24, 2019, 01:10:35 PM
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You just sent suggestions not the implementation (also your example is 2018, not 2017) and of course I used search feature.

My response was strictly related to your so descriptive title "NEW" and asking if this is a newly implemented feature. The examples given are certainly not from 2017, but if you try again you might find those too.

Suggestions, implementations, mental health and everything else related to accounts banned for plagiarism has been painfully discussed in various topics over the last 2-3 months...would you like links?




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Which means ChiBitCTy can now post to this forum as part of our community again.

I hope so. ChiBitCTy is still there, in contact with most collectors, doing all the bitcoin and collectibles related matters he was doing before, except he has to pass on the forum.

Do you think there is a chance that some of the previously banned accounts (for plagiarism) see those measures (sig ban instead of temp ban) applied to them ?
I believe there is a lot of people who would love to see ChiBitCTy posts on the board.

Really I just hope this isn't just the new policy going from now on, but more an enforcement on a case-by-case basis of this new way to handle plagiarism.

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Dosnt know you are New here lol  Cheesy

Nice implementation theymos guess it will answer some users question if they get banned temp. or perma!
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I believe there is a lot of people who would love to see ChiBitCTy posts on the board.
You can ask ChiBitCTy if he can post now? After all, he is a great part of our collection board. Ain't connected to ChiBitCTy account just seen him here before.

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Dosnt know you are New here lol  Cheesy
Yeah, he clearly doesn't know what OP is saying and the topic about. New here. Cheesy




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That was meant ironically lol!
He knows how and what and makes helpful contributions here!
Looks like you are not here so often!
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I believe there is a lot of people who would love to see ChiBitCTy posts on the board.
You can ask ChiBitCTy if he can post now? After all, he is a great part of our collection board. Ain't connected to ChiBitCTy account just seen him here before.

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Dosnt know you are New here lol  Cheesy
Yeah, he clearly doesn't know what OP is saying and the topic about. New here. Cheesy

Im texting him now, pretty sure his account is still banned because he would be using it to post

It's absurb he is still banned. Dudes got no account, and still active in the bitcointalk community.
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Which means ChiBitCTy can now post to this forum as part of our community again.

I hope so. ChiBitCTy is still there, in contact with most collectors, doing all the bitcoin and collectibles related matters he was doing before, except he has to pass on the forum.

Do you think there is a chance that some of the previously banned accounts (for plagiarism) see those measures (sig ban instead of temp ban) applied to them ?
I believe there is a lot of people who would love to see ChiBitCTy posts on the board.

Really I just hope this isn't just the new policy going from now on, but more an enforcement on a case-by-case basis of this new way to handle plagiarism.

Yes. .I vouch for ChiBitCTy. A good friend and excellent forum contributor. Please bring him back.

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February 24, 2019, 03:26:58 PM
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Good catch Sir millionaire.

I think this is a welcome change to most, I recall theymos discussing wanting to be less rigid and treat it this way. With the Sig ban for 2 years we'll definitely find out why people were here in the first place.
Now some can actually salvage their account, and stick around long enough to learn from their mistakes and hopefully contribute to the forum as a whole.

I wonder if there will be a place for people to recommend a member be reinstated. I can think of 1 account in Mining that I believe was banned under the old way of things.

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February 24, 2019, 03:50:36 PM
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This is excellent news and a sensible solution.

REAL members should not be here to spam their sigs and treat this board like a cash cow.

If they are plagiarising for financial reward then cut their sigs off and they will vanish anyway.

REAL members who got a bit sloppy for citing a reference every time will not care much about no sigs but can still bring their valuable contributions anyway (without a sig)

Sensible solution.

If you are a real enthusiast of building or helping to promote the start of and end to end decentralised trustless arena then you will not feel it ESSENTIAL to spam sigs everywhere.

I feel meta is a board that should be full of REAL enthusiasts ONLY. I would make it a non sig zone. Let's see who really wants to see this movement go somewhere and who just wants to manipulate things for their own self interest and benefit at the cost of silencing those that may not agree with everything they want/say.




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February 24, 2019, 03:57:17 PM
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There's been no policy change. redsn0w wasn't permanently banned due to several factors which made me think that permabanning him would be a net negative for the forum. Nobody is banned strictly because of "the rules"; it's always handled case-by-case, but almost always, plagiarists deserve to be permabanned.

If you think that a ban should be ended, make your case in a new topic from a "good for the forum as a whole" perspective.

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February 24, 2019, 03:58:44 PM
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I'm still curious to see which post got him banned. If it's really something from years ago, long before plagiarism was a problem, it's totally different than the account farmers that caused massive spam.

I don't know a single other forum that's this strict on plagiarism, especially if someone just copies some text to answer a question and solve a problem.

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February 24, 2019, 04:11:25 PM
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..i'm not sure if this plagisrism case was new in this forum or it have been long implemented..what do comes in my mine right now is that this case was good enough for the members of this forum in order to minimize spamming..newbies should carefully read the rules and regulations before posting..we the member of this forum should become smart in posting in different threads so that we will not be get banned on bitcointalk..

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