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May 09, 2019, 06:56:05 AM
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The problem is just the addiction. Gambling can be a friendly activity like any other you do on weekends, holidays and vacations. What isn't normal, as you said, is someone who is every day behind a computer or gambling machine spending money that he or she can't afford to lose.
However you can't stop this issue imposing heavy regulations on gambling activity, what would be harmful for the industry and for the economy of a city or country. Think what would be Las Vegas for an example, without gambling or with heavy regulations over it.
You used the right word mate and that is friendly activity. But the mistake is people who now that it as an office or avenue to make money, some people now gamble because they want to get rich overnight. So out of desperation, they will commit money that is too much for them to loose, some will now be on the game all and all nights and this is really very bad.

If this game can be seen as a friendly activity as used by the above poster, then players will understand the aspect of playing moderately. Just play with the intention to catch fun, spend the little you can afford, just like we make budgets to go to eateries. This way, we will not have so much history of addicted gamblers.

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May 09, 2019, 11:30:20 AM
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I know my statement may sound pretty hostile on this part of the board, though I'm not talking about the person who will buy a superbowl box or makes a friendly bet with someone over one big game. I think the degenerates are the people sitting around gambling on every game they can possibly gamble on.

I have friends like this, people that will gamble on Mexican Womens Tennis if they can win (or most likely lose) some money on the game. It's a crushing addicition that we've normalized in our culture to make it seem like it's just apart of life. It shouldn't be, and children at a young age should be stopped from gambling until they know the horrible outcomes that gambling can cause. I support every effort by regulators to stem out the bad actors in the gambling field in order to stop children from being hooked on this.

I'd like one of you to change my mind, or at least make me think different about gambling. Because as of right now, I have a pretty negative view on it.
You’re saying the truth . Gambling has a lot of negative impacts, and where u live I do see children who are gamblers and I just imagine what their future will be like, cause most of them I know that started living such life as a kid ended up with a miserable life. The worst of it all is that some places will be permitting little children to come in and gamble, when they know that it us very bad,. I wouldn’t blame them,  they just want to make money.
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May 12, 2019, 07:45:02 AM
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I know my statement may sound pretty hostile on this part of the board, though I'm not talking about the person who will buy a superbowl box or makes a friendly bet with someone over one big game. I think the degenerates are the people sitting around gambling on every game they can possibly gamble on.

I have friends like this, people that will gamble on Mexican Womens Tennis if they can win (or most likely lose) some money on the game. It's a crushing addicition that we've normalized in our culture to make it seem like it's just apart of life. It shouldn't be, and children at a young age should be stopped from gambling until they know the horrible outcomes that gambling can cause. I support every effort by regulators to stem out the bad actors in the gambling field in order to stop children from being hooked on this.

I'd like one of you to change my mind, or at least make me think different about gambling. Because as of right now, I have a pretty negative view on it.
You’re saying the truth . Gambling has a lot of negative impacts, and where u live I do see children who are gamblers and I just imagine what their future will be like, cause most of them I know that started living such life as a kid ended up with a miserable life. The worst of it all is that some places will be permitting little children to come in and gamble, when they know that it us very bad,. I wouldn’t blame them,  they just want to make money.

Well the term degenerate is a pretty narrow way to look at it. It's like saying these people are senile where in fact, a lot of them are sharp when it comes to other things aside from gambling. We all have our own personal preferences when it comes to entertainment and there sre just some who gets too deep into gambling. Same as those getting addicted to mobile games or going to bars and drinking. You don't vonsider these people degenrates right? Hope i made sense 😁


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May 12, 2019, 08:11:39 AM
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 #124

I know my statement may sound pretty hostile on this part of the board, though I'm not talking about the person who will buy a superbowl box or makes a friendly bet with someone over one big game. I think the degenerates are the people sitting around gambling on every game they can possibly gamble on.

I have friends like this, people that will gamble on Mexican Womens Tennis if they can win (or most likely lose) some money on the game. It's a crushing addicition that we've normalized in our culture to make it seem like it's just apart of life. It shouldn't be, and children at a young age should be stopped from gambling until they know the horrible outcomes that gambling can cause. I support every effort by regulators to stem out the bad actors in the gambling field in order to stop children from being hooked on this.

I'd like one of you to change my mind, or at least make me think different about gambling. Because as of right now, I have a pretty negative view on it.
You’re saying the truth . Gambling has a lot of negative impacts, and where u live I do see children who are gamblers and I just imagine what their future will be like, cause most of them I know that started living such life as a kid ended up with a miserable life. The worst of it all is that some places will be permitting little children to come in and gamble, when they know that it us very bad,. I wouldn’t blame them,  they just want to make money.
They want money because they are in need of money so the people who are growing them and also the respective governments are also reason for these kind of behaviour at younger age.People need to learn in the childhood days which is the only thing give stable income later stages of their life or they just need to wait for their luck to turn on their side at every occasion of betting.
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May 12, 2019, 12:28:18 PM
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No one really cares about what you think about gambling and gamblers. As long as they are gambling with their own money and not harming anyone directly, it is not proper to criticize them. In the modern world, it is not considered politically correct to impose your views of morality on someone else. You may be offended by something and the best thing to do in that case should be to stay away from that. 
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May 12, 2019, 01:10:20 PM
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Yeah as better this is the way I started to play betting. I have started to bet when there is a high chance of winning unfortunately I lose. This is where the taking another opportunity to bet and win the lose. Yes, I could win but most of the time I lose.

Now, I learn my lesson and that is to keep calm and cool when betting. Never bet when one is not calm for it will lead to a baf decision making.
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May 12, 2019, 06:13:18 PM
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No one really cares about what you think about gambling and gamblers. As long as they are gambling with their own money and not harming anyone directly, it is not proper to criticize them. In the modern world, it is not considered politically correct to impose your views of morality on someone else. You may be offended by something and the best thing to do in that case should be to stay away from that. 

We don’t  have to wait for compulsive gamblers to harm anyone before correcting what is wrong. And this idea of they aren’t gambling without money seems to me like we don’t really care about what happens to this individuals. This has nothing to do with imposing opinions on individuals but rather correcting what is wrong, there is always a place for constructive criticism and that is exactly what we are doing here.

There was man I know years back that would spend all his day and time on gambling, no one could correct him or call him names because they all felt it was his money, until this man finished all he had on gambling and rendered his family homeless. Those compulsive gamblers are nothing but degenerates indeed
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May 12, 2019, 07:22:13 PM
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The OP didnt say compulsive, just any gambler which is OTT.   Most gamblers just spend spare money, which is less harmful then spending it on alcohol and cigarettes.   We dont call people who drink or smoke degenerates and both can kill you in the end or lead to misfortune.
The point is not to do any these to excess but anything can be a mistake really

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May 12, 2019, 08:13:53 PM
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The OP didnt say compulsive, just any gambler which is OTT.   Most gamblers just spend spare money, which is less harmful then spending it on alcohol and cigarettes.   We dont call people who drink or smoke degenerates and both can kill you in the end or lead to misfortune.
The point is not to do any these to excess but anything can be a mistake really

Excessive gambling can really affect someone else's mind. But if you are just a moderate gambler and using your extra money and knows how to control your funds, I guess you are a responsible gambler that knows how to stick with your limits. And this will not give you a miserable life.
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May 12, 2019, 08:25:23 PM
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No one really cares about what you think about gambling and gamblers. As long as they are gambling with their own money and not harming anyone directly, it is not proper to criticize them. In the modern world, it is not considered politically correct to impose your views of morality on someone else. You may be offended by something and the best thing to do in that case should be to stay away from that. 
Giving criticism is okay. However, this criticism will not have a major effect on people who are already addicted to gambling. I think the OP might only give an appeal and remind us all of the dangers and risks if we gamble.
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May 12, 2019, 11:20:39 PM
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The OP didnt say compulsive, just any gambler which is OTT.   Most gamblers just spend spare money, which is less harmful then spending it on alcohol and cigarettes.   We dont call people who drink or smoke degenerates and both can kill you in the end or lead to misfortune.
The point is not to do any these to excess but anything can be a mistake really

Excessive gambling can really affect someone else's mind. But if you are just a moderate gambler and using your extra money and knows how to control your funds, I guess you are a responsible gambler that knows how to stick with your limits. And this will not give you a miserable life.
Yes. Gambling with your own limits might keep you from being addicted to it. Gamble only with your extra money and if you happened to lose them all, then just go home and just spend time with your loved ones. Never try chasing your losses by gambling even more because definitely you will end up a big loser at the end of the day.
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May 12, 2019, 11:27:05 PM
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You used the right word mate and that is friendly activity. But the mistake is people who now that it as an office or avenue to make money, some people now gamble because they want to get rich overnight. So out of desperation, they will commit money that is too much for them to loose, some will now be on the game all and all nights and this is really very bad.

If this game can be seen as a friendly activity as used by the above poster, then players will understand the aspect of playing moderately. Just play with the intention to catch fun, spend the little you can afford, just like we make budgets to go to eateries. This way, we will not have so much history of addicted gamblers.

That is the thing, understanding the aspect of playing moderately and with balance. How? Putting limits to the time and money you will spend daily or weekly. Daily limits are a lot better when you faced addiction in the past, day by day effort and having a step by step mindset can release a lot of chains made by yourself inside your mind.

Also you are 100% right that some people do it to try to get rich overnight but a lot of people do it for fun too and it's something that needs to be understood since it's so recreational like MMORPG's.
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May 12, 2019, 11:50:49 PM
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Not everyone who drinks alcohol turns into a drunk, and not everyone who plays the slot machine turns into an addict. It's all about being an adult, setting limits and taking responsibility for our actions. Some people have addictive personalities and/or need to grow up before they destroy their lives and wreck the lives of their families and children. There's nothing wrong with having the occasional wager on the slots or Roulette table, but some people go way overboard and gamble more than they can afford to lose, leaving their dependents to go hungry, etc. I don't have any sympathy for degenerates like that. I only feel sorry for their children and families.

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May 13, 2019, 03:31:31 AM
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Not everyone who drinks alcohol turns into a drunk, and not everyone who plays the slot machine turns into an addict. It's all about being an adult, setting limits and taking responsibility for our actions. Some people have addictive personalities and/or need to grow up before they destroy their lives and wreck the lives of their families and children. There's nothing wrong with having the occasional wager on the slots or Roulette table, but some people go way overboard and gamble more than they can afford to lose, leaving their dependents to go hungry, etc. I don't have any sympathy for degenerates like that. I only feel sorry for their children and families.

Indeed, we need to choose a normal way in gambling, if we cross our limit then it become dangerous for us, and it is true, that mostly people have negative thinking about it. It is because we can't control ourself and we cross our limitation in gambling.









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May 13, 2019, 09:30:36 AM
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I don't think so, if these people are degenerate in mind then the government should ban all forms of gambling because they do not want a society with degenerate minds, some go to gambling sites for entertainment and some to make money of course, there's a risk factor, but if you have a supportive friends and family you will not end up as a compulsive gambler.

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May 13, 2019, 10:19:10 AM
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this is because you are watching gambling from only one negative side. try to imagine what profit you make from gambling and no I am not talking about money. people feel good and they become happy and lucky when they win. your brain sees that signal as a reward and as we know because of human evolution your brain tries to become more and more perfect with where it gets the reward. But always see gambling as a plaything as when you play a game and win or lose you do not care. but because money is involved here the reward signal in your brain is much bigger. so stop thinking it is special and just treat it like a normal computer game where it doesn't matter if you win or lose.
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May 14, 2019, 02:06:22 AM
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I know my statement may sound pretty hostile on this part of the board, though I'm not talking about the person who will buy a superbowl box or makes a friendly bet with someone over one big game. I think the degenerates are the people sitting around gambling on every game they can possibly gamble on.

I have friends like this, people that will gamble on Mexican Womens Tennis if they can win (or most likely lose) some money on the game. It's a crushing addicition that we've normalized in our culture to make it seem like it's just apart of life. It shouldn't be, and children at a young age should be stopped from gambling until they know the horrible outcomes that gambling can cause. I support every effort by regulators to stem out the bad actors in the gambling field in order to stop children from being hooked on this.

I'd like one of you to change my mind, or at least make me think different about gambling. Because as of right now, I have a pretty negative view on it.
I don't know if I could able to change your mind but I'll try my best. Gambling may be bad for some reason and also may not bad, it will only bad depend on how will you use it like if you use it to earn profit but if you will you use it for entertainment I think there's nothing wrong with that. Personally, I used to play gambling but I ain't get addicted so far probably because I could able to resist the temptation. The bitcoin casino where I used to play has a lot of amazing features and bonuses, it also has a lot of various games and I think this is perfect to entertain yourself.

It is really hard to changed up someone's mind thinking about gambling. Well, our society have already set its meaning that whenever other people would hear the word 'gambling' is that it is a bad act or doing because it has been that colloquial mindset of many people around. Actually, gambling may be a bad or a good one depending on the user or player but gambling itself must not be the one to be blamed on that because it is just a game and the player is the one who decides the path he will went through. But personally speaking that is based on my experience as a gambler, playing gambling is really fun and exciting for as long as you know what is the reason why you are playing and know your limits upon playing because by the end of the day, even the game way really intensifying, we still have the control on ourselves. That is what I have proven upon playing into a crypto casino which is Vegas casino where I play variety of games and enjoy such great deals of bonuses which tells me that playing gambling is not really that bad as long as the player do know his own limitations and having that self-control to manage his own.
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May 14, 2019, 07:25:21 AM
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I don't think so, if these people are degenerate in mind then the government should ban all forms of gambling because they do not want a society with degenerate minds, some go to gambling sites for entertainment and some to make money of course, there's a risk factor, but if you have a supportive friends and family you will not end up as a compulsive gambler.
You can get both experiences from the two types of gamblers which will affect your mentality with which you look at gambling. Those gamblers who usually lose in the gambling will always resist you to abstain yourself from gambling but those gamblers who are having a good time with it will encourage you to do the same. You should not really make your mind to start gambling just for money reason.
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May 14, 2019, 08:08:57 AM
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It's their money and they can do whatever they want on it as long as they do not harm anybody, it's just your perception, there are people who gamble just to entertain themselves and there are who gamble for profit, they satisfy their needs, and wants it's not up to us to judge them and impose our judgement on people, gambling is not a crime.
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May 14, 2019, 10:00:55 AM
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Yeah as better this is the way I started to play betting. I have started to bet when there is a high chance of winning unfortunately I lose. This is where the taking another opportunity to bet and win the lose. Yes, I could win but most of the time I lose.

Now, I learn my lesson and that is to keep calm and cool when betting. Never bet when one is not calm for it will lead to a baf decision making.
That only way one can be calm in betting is to avoid anxiety and I noticed that anxiety is always common with people who want to make fast and quick money from gambling. Why the anxiety actually?  I feel the essence for varieties of games in gambling is to get fun. Gambling is not a source of income and even when any player desires to play for money, he should at least play moderately.

It’s so nice when we play the game for fun but at the same time we have to be disciplined not to get addicted because such game that can be so interesting if not controlled can result to addiction. The best thing is just to play the game moderately.
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