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Title: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: squatz1 on March 06, 2019, 02:47:58 AM
I know my statement may sound pretty hostile on this part of the board, though I'm not talking about the person who will buy a superbowl box or makes a friendly bet with someone over one big game. I think the degenerates are the people sitting around gambling on every game they can possibly gamble on.

I have friends like this, people that will gamble on Mexican Womens Tennis if they can win (or most likely lose) some money on the game. It's a crushing addicition that we've normalized in our culture to make it seem like it's just apart of life. It shouldn't be, and children at a young age should be stopped from gambling until they know the horrible outcomes that gambling can cause. I support every effort by regulators to stem out the bad actors in the gambling field in order to stop children from being hooked on this.

I'd like one of you to change my mind, or at least make me think different about gambling. Because as of right now, I have a pretty negative view on it.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: jademaxsuy on March 06, 2019, 04:49:56 AM
Gambling may be bad but it's also another way to enjoy life and you must have limitation when gambling. Start with the money you afford to lose so that you still have money. Having strategy can also help you think gambling is not all about bringing a negative impact on your life. Stay Posirive, avoid getting involved too much.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: squatz1 on March 06, 2019, 05:10:57 AM
Gambling may be bad but it's also another way to enjoy life and you must have limitation when gambling. Start with the money you afford to lose so that you still have money. Having strategy can also help you think gambling is not all about bringing a negative impact on your life. Stay Posirive, avoid getting involved too much.

As I said originally, I'm not talking about the holiday betters or the people that do it just because the people in the office are doing it just to fit in. I'm talking about the people who are nonstop about the fact that they have a 'sure thing' or that this is the game that's going to turn them around. Stuff like that.

There's no real way for this sort of gambler to be able to keep it without the emotions, as they thrive off of the winnings and the losses and never are able to quench the thirst of gambling. It's a never ending battle that you're never going to be able to fully leave unless you go COLD TURKEY.

This normalization of certain types of betting: Be it DraftKings or one of those weekly sports betting, or just some random bets you'd make at school with some friends are going to be the downfall of this newest generation.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: maydna on March 06, 2019, 05:38:14 AM
I agree with your opinion about a young age should be stopped from gambling, but the problem is they can easily access every website with internet connection which available everywhere. They can access gambling website in the cafe or the malls.

I think the governments which are prohibit gambling in their country as trying hard to block every gambling site so people especially young age cannot access that site but you know, the internet connection is not hard to find in today. Perhaps, it is our jobs to take care of the young age around us or even our kids to stay away from gambling. I am sure if we can explain to them about how dangerous gambling games for their life, they will understand and they will obey us.

Besides that, we need to make a friendly approaching to young age, so they know that playing gambling is not good in their ages and even it will risk their life too in the future. And soon, after the young age realizes the risk of gambling game, they will become aware that they don't have to use gambling as one way to having fun and there is any other activity that they can use in their free time.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: onrise on March 06, 2019, 05:53:51 AM
Gambling may be bad but it's also another way to enjoy life and you must have limitation when gambling. Start with the money you afford to lose so that you still have money. Having strategy can also help you think gambling is not all about bringing a negative impact on your life. Stay Posirive, avoid getting involved too much.

It is upto individual how they want to take it. Like for those who want to just make money will play only to win and most likely will end up losing a lot of money if do not stop at right time. While for others who just play to entertain them self will continue to gamble and enjoy irrespective of the results.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: goaldigger on March 06, 2019, 06:38:05 AM
I know my statement may sound pretty hostile on this part of the board, though I'm not talking about the person who will buy a superbowl box or makes a friendly bet with someone over one big game. I think the degenerates are the people sitting around gambling on every game they can possibly gamble on.

I have friends like this, people that will gamble on Mexican Womens Tennis if they can win (or most likely lose) some money on the game. It's a crushing addicition that we've normalized in our culture to make it seem like it's just apart of life. It shouldn't be, and children at a young age should be stopped from gambling until they know the horrible outcomes that gambling can cause. I support every effort by regulators to stem out the bad actors in the gambling field in order to stop children from being hooked on this.

I'd like one of you to change my mind, or at least make me think different about gambling. Because as of right now, I have a pretty negative view on it.

"in every law, the is an exemption" i always think of this to have a broad understanding on everything. I am not saying that you are right but there are an isolated cases of people who are really an addict gambler but not all peoplr are like that. in ever ten right things, there is always one who goes wrong. There are more gamblers that are in control so i dont think gambling is pure evil.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: mu_enrico on March 06, 2019, 06:41:06 AM
In my opinion, gambling is not that different from playing games like PUBG, DOTA2, etc., it triggers "joy hormone" and give you a sense of accomplishment. Since young people often cannot control that urge to play (driven from hormone), they would easily be addicted, and in the end, their brain got permanently damaged.

At the end of the day, this is just about self-control.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: electronicash on March 06, 2019, 06:55:06 AM

nothing can change your mind about what you see about those degenerate gamblers no matter what sort of reason will be said to you. its always going to end up being why not find a real job to earn money for someone who reasons he wants to earn thru gambling. but i always find it thrilling to bet. as a kid i always play bacarrat with friends.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: avikz on March 06, 2019, 08:16:43 AM
I know my statement may sound pretty hostile on this part of the board, though I'm not talking about the person who will buy a superbowl box or makes a friendly bet with someone over one big game. I think the degenerates are the people sitting around gambling on every game they can possibly gamble on.

I have friends like this, people that will gamble on Mexican Womens Tennis if they can win (or most likely lose) some money on the game. It's a crushing addicition that we've normalized in our culture to make it seem like it's just apart of life. It shouldn't be, and children at a young age should be stopped from gambling until they know the horrible outcomes that gambling can cause. I support every effort by regulators to stem out the bad actors in the gambling field in order to stop children from being hooked on this.

I'd like one of you to change my mind, or at least make me think different about gambling. Because as of right now, I have a pretty negative view on it.

I would not contradict with your view because addicted gamblers can cause a big problem to themselves as well as to the society! But, this statement holds true for addicted gamblers only who usually bets on every single events possible and can't control their mind even after facing a huge loss. But I won't call every gambler a degenerate because they are not! They way you know a friend who is addicted to gambling, similar way I know a lot of people who gambles for pleasure and they know when to stop! I don't want to change your mind about it because every individual comes with different background, social structure and different point of view. But calling every gambler a degenerate, is not correct either!


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: slaman29 on March 06, 2019, 09:54:44 AM
I know my statement may sound pretty hostile on this part of the board, though I'm not talking about the person who will buy a superbowl box or makes a friendly bet with someone over one big game. I think the degenerates are the people sitting around gambling on every game they can possibly gamble on.

I have friends like this, people that will gamble on Mexican Womens Tennis if they can win (or most likely lose) some money on the game. It's a crushing addicition that we've normalized in our culture to make it seem like it's just apart of life. It shouldn't be, and children at a young age should be stopped from gambling until they know the horrible outcomes that gambling can cause. I support every effort by regulators to stem out the bad actors in the gambling field in order to stop children from being hooked on this.

I'd like one of you to change my mind, or at least make me think different about gambling. Because as of right now, I have a pretty negative view on it.

Yes, your statement sounds pretty hostile, why did you say it like that? Also, I think you make a good point but also an inaccurate one. Some gamblers are addicted so they bet on everything. Others are addicted but only to one form of gambling or one type of game and then spend their life savings to chase losses or win big. Some just like buying 1 set of numbers for every lottery draw. Are all these degenerates of equal nature?

Every human habit and action has a good and bad side. Gambling is probably correctly called a vice but if it keeps people out of trouble without making them lose life savings, how bad can it be?


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: shoreno on March 06, 2019, 10:15:22 AM
In my opinion, gambling is not that different from playing games like PUBG, DOTA2, etc., it triggers "joy hormone" and give you a sense of accomplishment. Since young people often cannot control that urge to play (driven from hormone), they would easily be addicted, and in the end, their brain got permanently damaged.

At the end of the day, this is just about self-control.

being addicted does not mean that you will permanently atatched to something  . you will not be brain dead forever because addicted people do also recover if they want and if they are really willing to change thier life for a better  .  but you got a point  that gambling is somehow simillar to playing games because both acts can trigger joy hormone or dopamine in the brain .


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: Haunebu on March 06, 2019, 10:22:54 AM
Wow. This thread title is something else. Everyone knows the negative outcomes of gambling, but most don't care and it is their choice at the end of the day.

Every person in this world is obviously free to make their own choices regardless of age, sex, caste, creed etc which is why your opinion that gamblers are degenerates is downright silly which is why I completely disagree with you.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: izanagi narukami on March 06, 2019, 11:19:16 AM
Many people have their own expectation to gamble although they already aware that the loss probability is high.

My government decide to forbid any gambling activity, IMO they want to help or prevent any people turn into addicted


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: MakeMoneyBtc on March 06, 2019, 11:33:33 AM
Honestly I don't understand what is your real problem with gambling and people that are betting. If you don't like gambling and people that do it then just forget and don't think about it. That's it. We all know gambling is one of the stupidest addiction so why would you want to change your perception on that? Just to become one of them? The only people that are going to try and change your mentality is those who are doing the things that you hate so this is will only lead to bad things since it's possible that you will start gambling in the future. You don't like gambling, don't talk about it, don't spend you time with people that are doing it and move on.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: swogerino on March 06, 2019, 12:23:45 PM
I don't agree with this statement. I gamble almost daily although with little budget but I don't consider myself a degenerate, I have a regular life, day job and a beautiful family. I play through my phone for example yesterday which was Champions League and will also play a bit today. I don't think this behavior makes me or any gambler with this behavior a degenerate.

There are extreme cases when addicted persons becomes degenerate because of their addiction but these are isolated cases and don't make a broad statement in gambling.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: Pmalek on March 06, 2019, 12:27:17 PM
People with money gamble for fun, those that don't have the money gamble hoping to win some and they fail.

The problem I notice in my area is that many bookies have their businesses close to schools. Kids walk by these establishments and get drawn in by the graphics and big logos. And this is not how it is supposed to be. Addiction starts at early age.

A few lads on the street I live in have a betting shop as their meeting place! On Friday or Saturday night they don't go out to hang out with friends but instead they hang out at the bet shops and play bingo or dog races. Unfortunately, some people don't have the capacity to distinguish between gambling for fun and stop when the fun ends.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: eternalgloom on March 06, 2019, 12:28:56 PM
You're obviously talking about gambling addicts. I mean if you're gambling every single day, then that would make someone a gambling addict.
Are these people degenerates? I don't think so, they're people who have a problem. I wouldn't call an addict a degenerate.

They're people like you and me, who simply got addicted to gambling. Shaming them doesn't help anyone, your choice of words makes them seems as though they're less than human.
A little bit of compassion goes a long way and as long as society views people with an addiction as weak or degenerate, the more difficult it becomes for these people to seek the help that they so desperately need.

May I also add that while you say these people are degenerates, you're also helping perpetuate that behavior by promoting a gambling website in your signature.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: tokeweed on March 06, 2019, 12:41:50 PM
Nope, I'm not gonna change your mind squatz.  There are degens who gamble on anything...  Even mice racing.  Lololol.

There was a guy who made a mice racing thread in the main gambling section.  Go find it, it's hilarious.  :D


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: Johnzky on March 06, 2019, 01:10:50 PM
Many people have their own expectation to gamble although they already aware that the loss probability is high.

My government decide to forbid any gambling activity, IMO they want to help or prevent any people turn into addicted
Well i guess your government are willing to risk the funds that can be collected from gambling right?because s I believe only muslim countries are prohibited gambling in their regions or i may miss something

But if thats the reason i think your government is doing one good thing because instead of people losing money in gambling they will save the amount for the family in thatay economy will rise

And also your right that people has on expectations even they know that no one really wins in gambling


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: Betwrong on March 06, 2019, 01:15:06 PM
There's nothing wrong with trying to win some money, especially if the very process is enjoyable. Isn't that the same thing as treasure hunting when people invest their money in some equipment in hopes of finding something valuable? They mostly fail, by the way, and yet treasure hunting is not that frowned upon as gambling. And do you know why? That is because treasure hunting is not that popular as gambling, that's it. I bet there is the same percentage(around 3%) of treasure hunters who ruined their own lives, and perhaps, the lives of those close to them through their activities, as that for gamblers. And there are other similar pursuits too, and stock trading is one of them imo.

So, don't be so harsh on gambling. It's just one of those hobbies that can be very dangerous when abused.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: mu_enrico on March 06, 2019, 01:22:52 PM
being addicted does not mean that you will permanently atatched to something  . you will not be brain dead forever because addicted people do also recover if they want and if they are really willing to change thier life for a better  .
I had a similar view at first, but from my personal experience, once you (really) addicted to something, your brain will never be the same. Just like this quote:

Quote
Like asthma or diabetes, Fong said, there’s no permanent cure for compulsive gambling. “It is a chronic, long-term illness,” he said. “But it can be controlled very, very well so that you are not worrying about it every day.”
http://newsroom.ucla.edu/stories/gambling-addicts-suffer-from-brain-190668

Nevertheless, just like any other games, gambling is fine as long as you do it responsibly.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: emberbekas on March 06, 2019, 03:04:38 PM
I know my statement may sound pretty hostile on this part of the board, though I'm not talking about the person who will buy a superbowl box or makes a friendly bet with someone over one big game. I think the degenerates are the people sitting around gambling on every game they can possibly gamble on.

I have friends like this, people that will gamble on Mexican Womens Tennis if they can win (or most likely lose) some money on the game. It's a crushing addicition that we've normalized in our culture to make it seem like it's just apart of life. It shouldn't be, and children at a young age should be stopped from gambling until they know the horrible outcomes that gambling can cause. I support every effort by regulators to stem out the bad actors in the gambling field in order to stop children from being hooked on this.

I'd like one of you to change my mind, or at least make me think different about gambling. Because as of right now, I have a pretty negative view on it.

Indeed, there are people who, after knowing gambling and becomes addict, changed their way of life. They place gambling above anything else and even forget other important things that should be maintained, such as daily job. Yes, maybe a case like that happens a lot but not everyone will fall into that situation. There are still many gamblers who able to maintain their daily lives and not be affected by the adverse effects of gambling they do.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: FIFA worldcup on March 06, 2019, 03:29:05 PM
Actually OP that's really a negative about gambling like many children will affect by this like it so hard to control yourself if you became an addict still as a user with a positive thinker i recommend or suggest that risk the affordable always for you in gambling then this brings so much enjoyment,knowledge while we can earn when we try this so even there's no assurance we can use this in many good ways

It depends upon who is playing gambling and how strong minded he is. If a mature person is playing gambling he will not be addicted to gambling very easily as he has a mature mind to know what is good or bad. If a children is involved in gambling then they wont even know when they are addicted to gambling and they will not be able to manage their time and money well .


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: nutildah on March 06, 2019, 03:36:09 PM
The title is a bit too simplistic and requires nuance.

If somebody gambles with extra money they have to spare, and isn't harming their own financial health or their family's, they can do whatever they damn well please. If somebody makes a hundred grand a year and wastes a hundred dollars a day on a dice site with crap odds, while still taking care of their finances, who cares? They probably don't care if anonymous people call them a "degenerate."

Its a topic really only worthy of judgment if they do things like gamble their rent money. Otherwise its a far healthier vice than alcohol, hard drugs, or cigarettes.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: akram143 on March 06, 2019, 03:51:05 PM
Gambling is not suitable for all of us because it is a different kind of making money because you lots of people who are entering into this field will not need money they are come to this field will come for the entertainment purpose only so it can be a good thing also but if you are thinking you need to be make money in quicktime to not be possible at any time.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: Ridwan Fauzi on March 06, 2019, 04:17:43 PM
Everyone has different perspective toward an issues, depending on who you talk to. Gambling indeed will give a negative impact on everyone, especially in young children. They won't think of many things to start gambling and they won't see any conditions what they are feeling to gamble, they will do whatever they want and this is a cos gambling will give a negative impact on them.

However, you will not be easy to change their mindset towards gambling and it looks like you live in a place where gambling is a normal thing to do or even maybe your government gives freedom to gambling places to allow your children to gamble.



Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: xhomerx10 on March 06, 2019, 04:27:59 PM
I know my statement may sound pretty hostile on this part of the board, though I'm not talking about the person who will buy a superbowl box or makes a friendly bet with someone over one big game. I think the degenerates are the people sitting around gambling on every game they can possibly gamble on.

I have friends like this, people that will gamble on Mexican Womens Tennis if they can win (or most likely lose) some money on the game. It's a crushing addicition that we've normalized in our culture to make it seem like it's just apart of life. It shouldn't be, and children at a young age should be stopped from gambling until they know the horrible outcomes that gambling can cause. I support every effort by regulators to stem out the bad actors in the gambling field in order to stop children from being hooked on this.

I'd like one of you to change my mind, or at least make me think different about gambling. Because as of right now, I have a pretty negative view on it.

 If you truly believe what you have posted while making money wearing the tags of a gambling site,  you're a hypocrite and a degenerate one at that.




Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: jrrsparkles on March 06, 2019, 04:40:27 PM
When you know what you can afford to spend on gambling and still spending more means it is not the fault of gambling it comes from ourself and we are hiding under the name of gambling which makes it as to look like a negative thing to do.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: sheenshane on March 06, 2019, 05:33:58 PM
I'd like one of you to change my mind, or at least make me think different about gambling. Because as of right now, I have a pretty negative view on it.

 If you truly believe what you have posted while making money wearing the tags of a gambling site,  you're a hypocrite and a degenerate one at that.
Yes, I agree. What is the purpose of wearing a gambling site signature if you oppose the views of gambling?
Well everyone of us has a different perspective way on gambling, I personally like to gamble when I arrived at home after whole day work it just likes to relieve my stress. We know that we can't defeat the banker of the site, but if your purpose is to entertain so why not.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: adzino on March 06, 2019, 05:39:32 PM
Who are you to stop them from gambling? You can't judge someone and call them "degenerates" just because they gamble. They can afford to lose the money, then let them gamble and enjoy. It's a form of entertainment for them. If you think they are addicted and needs help (because they are suffering from financial aspects), then just help them give up their addiction and guide them towards a stable life instead of calling them degenerates.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: angel55 on March 06, 2019, 06:02:56 PM
Gambling is becoming more commonplace because of smart phones and access to video games.  All the new video games have prizes, spins, lootboxes, where you can win virtual items for real money.  This triggers your brain's reward system and you continually want more and more.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: playboy654 on March 06, 2019, 06:11:51 PM
A lots of people getting out from this field when they are after addict into it so gambling will be one of the good way of money making but people are using it for a huge money making this will be the main problem for addiction for everyone to get so much addicted into it.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: imstillthebest on March 06, 2019, 10:44:26 PM
Who are you to stop them from gambling? You can't judge someone and call them "degenerates" just because they gamble. They can afford to lose the money, then let them gamble and enjoy. It's a form of entertainment for them. If you think they are addicted and needs help (because they are suffering from financial aspects), then just help them give up their addiction and guide them towards a stable life instead of calling them degenerates.

Yeah and not all who play gambling are addicts or addicted  .  me and wife play gambling , i play online gambling using crypto and my wife play offline gambling near on our place but we are not addicted because we only allocate few hours to play  and we dont play everyday  . the good part is we are not playing for profit .  we are only playing to enjoy our selves .  not all gamblers are degenerate's  , few of them maybe  .


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: crzy on March 06, 2019, 11:10:46 PM
I know my statement may sound pretty hostile on this part of the board, though I'm not talking about the person who will buy a superbowl box or makes a friendly bet with someone over one big game. I think the degenerates are the people sitting around gambling on every game they can possibly gamble on.

I have friends like this, people that will gamble on Mexican Womens Tennis if they can win (or most likely lose) some money on the game. It's a crushing addicition that we've normalized in our culture to make it seem like it's just apart of life. It shouldn't be, and children at a young age should be stopped from gambling until they know the horrible outcomes that gambling can cause. I support every effort by regulators to stem out the bad actors in the gambling field in order to stop children from being hooked on this.

I'd like one of you to change my mind, or at least make me think different about gambling. Because as of right now, I have a pretty negative view on it.
Stick with that view because gambling is really not good especially if you can’t afford it. A lots of disadvantages and negative effects compare to positive, some may win but most gamblers lose big money in gambling. Don’t be like your friend, i saw you different don’t gamble at all.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: squatz1 on March 07, 2019, 03:42:11 AM
I agree with your opinion about a young age should be stopped from gambling, but the problem is they can easily access every website with internet connection which available everywhere. They can access gambling website in the cafe or the malls.

I think the governments which are prohibit gambling in their country as trying hard to block every gambling site so people especially young age cannot access that site but you know, the internet connection is not hard to find in today. Perhaps, it is our jobs to take care of the young age around us or even our kids to stay away from gambling. I am sure if we can explain to them about how dangerous gambling games for their life, they will understand and they will obey us.

Besides that, we need to make a friendly approaching to young age, so they know that playing gambling is not good in their ages and even it will risk their life too in the future. And soon, after the young age realizes the risk of gambling game, they will become aware that they don't have to use gambling as one way to having fun and there is any other activity that they can use in their free time.

This is only more the reason for more regulations to attempt to stop this sort of behavior, and I think the companies that are attempting to skirt these rules should be held liable for the problems that they're going to cause down the line because they won't ensure that their site (to the best of their knowledge) isn't being used by those under 18. Companies know exactly what they're doing and they're reaping the rewards of letting underage people gamble, though they should soon face the legal consequences.

Gambling is becoming more commonplace because of smart phones and access to video games.  All the new video games have prizes, spins, lootboxes, where you can win virtual items for real money.  This triggers your brain's reward system and you continually want more and more.

Without a doubt something that should be made more transparent. I think gaming companies have abused this and parents have little to no clue about this. It's a sad behavior which exploits the youngest and most vulnerable for some profits.



Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: nutildah on March 07, 2019, 03:48:46 AM

Without a doubt something that should be made more transparent. I think gaming companies have abused this and parents have little to no clue about this. It's a sad behavior which exploits the youngest and most vulnerable for some profits.


As homer pointed out, you're wearing a gambling sig so you are directly supporting this "sad behavior." Is the irony totally lost on you?


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: squatz1 on March 07, 2019, 03:55:44 AM

Without a doubt something that should be made more transparent. I think gaming companies have abused this and parents have little to no clue about this. It's a sad behavior which exploits the youngest and most vulnerable for some profits.


As homer pointed out, you're wearing a gambling sig so you are directly supporting this "sad behavior." Is the irony totally lost on you?

Just because I wear the signature of a company which promotes gambling doesn't mean I'm not able to speak out about what I think new regulatory policy should be related to gambling. I don't see the 'gotcha' moment by you two in the least.

I may have strong beliefs on the topic yes, but my one signature is one that would be replaced if I was to leave. So what's the point in me giving up my reward? There's no point in that.

As a side note, in the part that you quoted you failed to notice that I was speaking about loot boxes and gaming companies. Though I do know what you were referencing though, even if you failed to quote the correct area.





Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: xhomerx10 on March 07, 2019, 04:26:49 AM

Without a doubt something that should be made more transparent. I think gaming companies have abused this and parents have little to no clue about this. It's a sad behavior which exploits the youngest and most vulnerable for some profits.


As homer pointed out, you're wearing a gambling sig so you are directly supporting this "sad behavior." Is the irony totally lost on you?

Just because I wear the signature of a company which promotes gambling doesn't mean I'm not able to speak out about what I think new regulatory policy should be related to gambling. I don't see the 'gotcha' moment by you two in the least.

I may have strong beliefs on the topic yes, but my one signature is one that would be replaced if I was to leave. So what's the point in me giving up my reward? There's no point in that.

As a side note, in the part that you quoted you failed to notice that I was speaking about loot boxes and gaming companies. Though I do know what you were referencing though, even if you failed to quote the correct area.





  I hardly consider this a "gotcha" moment since nobody attempted to trick you into anything.  You've discredited yourself by your own lack of integrity having failed to take a principled stance against a behaviour on which you publicly claim to have a negative view.  An addiction is a chronic disorder - a complex disease.  People with addiction need treatment rather than your moral judgment of their character.



Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: gilangIDR on March 07, 2019, 04:51:00 AM
I know my statement may sound pretty hostile on this part of the board, though I'm not talking about the person who will buy a superbowl box or makes a friendly bet with someone over one big game. I think the degenerates are the people sitting around gambling on every game they can possibly gamble on.

I have friends like this, people that will gamble on Mexican Womens Tennis if they can win (or most likely lose) some money on the game. It's a crushing addicition that we've normalized in our culture to make it seem like it's just apart of life. It shouldn't be, and children at a young age should be stopped from gambling until they know the horrible outcomes that gambling can cause. I support every effort by regulators to stem out the bad actors in the gambling field in order to stop children from being hooked on this.

I'd like one of you to change my mind, or at least make me think different about gambling. Because as of right now, I have a pretty negative view on it.
Only one that needs to be changed, we must change our perspective on the gambling game !!! Never make gambling a job, because if someone already considers gambling as a job they will get pressure. Make gambling a pleasure so we will get comfort !!!


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: mu_enrico on March 07, 2019, 05:35:32 AM
This is only more the reason for more regulations to attempt to stop this sort of behavior, and I think the companies that are attempting to skirt these rules should be held liable for the problems that they're going to cause down the line because they won't ensure that their site (to the best of their knowledge) isn't being used by those under 18. Companies know exactly what they're doing and they're reaping the rewards of letting underage people gamble, though they should soon face the legal consequences.

This argument also applies to porn sites.
All online casinos can do is to put a disclaimer/warning sign since they cannot hire a bouncer to keep out underage people to enter.

What is your idea to solve this problem? KYC?


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: bitgolden on March 07, 2019, 07:33:08 AM
i guess your government are willing to risk the funds that can be collected from gambling right?because s I believe only muslim countries are prohibited gambling in their regions or i may miss something

But if thats the reason i think your government is doing one good thing because instead of people losing money in gambling they will save the amount for the family in thatay economy will rise

And also your right that people has on expectations even they know that no one really wins in gambling
But not many people lose money to gambling as we think, if that is the case, Charlie sheen of 2 and a half man would have one broke by now ever since he left the series because he gambles a lot  and if he has not been winning, he would not continue.

I know gambling can be addictive but when you play with a matured mind, I don’t think it should be an issue trying to make extra income, which doesn’t mean it is only gambling that the gambler invest all his money on, so let us all stop seeing all gamblers as degenerated someone as the Author of this post describe.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: maydna on March 07, 2019, 08:38:13 AM
I agree with your opinion about a young age should be stopped from gambling, but the problem is they can easily access every website with internet connection which available everywhere. They can access gambling website in the cafe or the malls.

I think the governments which are prohibit gambling in their country as trying hard to block every gambling site so people especially young age cannot access that site but you know, the internet connection is not hard to find in today. Perhaps, it is our jobs to take care of the young age around us or even our kids to stay away from gambling. I am sure if we can explain to them about how dangerous gambling games for their life, they will understand and they will obey us.

Besides that, we need to make a friendly approaching to young age, so they know that playing gambling is not good in their ages and even it will risk their life too in the future. And soon, after the young age realizes the risk of gambling game, they will become aware that they don't have to use gambling as one way to having fun and there is any other activity that they can use in their free time.

This is only more the reason for more regulations to attempt to stop this sort of behavior, and I think the companies that are attempting to skirt these rules should be held liable for the problems that they're going to cause down the line because they won't ensure that their site (to the best of their knowledge) isn't being used by those under 18. Companies know exactly what they're doing and they're reaping the rewards of letting underage people gamble, though they should soon face the legal consequences.

I think the government can stop them by creating a regulation to control the site even if the site is not hosted in their country and they can make cooperation with the other country to control the gambling spreading.

But it's difficult to know their site is not being used by younger age because the government and the gambling websites don't know who the person that is playing gambling on their site is. They will feel difficult if the gambler using VPN to hide their IP from tracking.

And in the crypto gambling, it's very difficult to know who owns the wallet for the gambling transaction even the gambling website is already told to the government about their wallet for the transaction.

Perhaps, we need to gather and talk about the real solution, but the most important is by watching the young ages to not making illegal things that can make their lives in the dangerous.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: iMark on March 07, 2019, 11:48:44 AM
Gambling may be bad but it's also another way to enjoy life and you must have limitation when gambling. Start with the money you afford to lose so that you still have money. Having strategy can also help you think gambling is not all about bringing a negative impact on your life. Stay Posirive, avoid getting involved too much.

It is upto individual how they want to take it. Like for those who want to just make money will play only to win and most likely will end up losing a lot of money if do not stop at right time. While for others who just play to entertain them self will continue to gamble and enjoy irrespective of the results.

Because gambling has the possibility to make your life degenerates or worse then you have to prepare it as best you can. yeah it will depend on individuals themselves, whatever their goals in gambling, they have to prepare well like the amount of capital, controls and so on


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: davinchi on March 07, 2019, 01:31:04 PM
This is only more the reason for more regulations to attempt to stop this sort of behavior, and I think the companies that are attempting to skirt these rules should be held liable for the problems that they're going to cause down the line because they won't ensure that their site (to the best of their knowledge) isn't being used by those under 18. Companies know exactly what they're doing and they're reaping the rewards of letting underage people gamble, though they should soon face the legal consequences.

This argument also applies to porn sites.
All online casinos can do is to put a disclaimer/warning sign since they cannot hire a bouncer to keep out underage people to enter.

What is your idea to solve this problem? KYC?
This problem perhaps might have none other solution than KYC. There are a lot of underage peoples who are well trained and advanced in gambling which makes them go for it but the consequences doesn’t allow this. There should be a sudden age limit for each casino or a gambling website where only aged peoples can gamble but practically it is quite difficult to implement this. Even similar situation could be see with porn but it can’t be changed until and unless KYC is made mandatory.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: Ranly123 on March 07, 2019, 01:37:36 PM
Gambling may be bad but it's also another way to enjoy life and you must have limitation when gambling. Start with the money you afford to lose so that you still have money. Having strategy can also help you think gambling is not all about bringing a negative impact on your life. Stay Posirive, avoid getting involved too much.

I guess your right, gambling might have a negative effect on someone's social life but if it will be addressed correctly then it can also release stress. So doing gambling is just another way of recreation ad not for addiction.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: Altero on March 07, 2019, 01:54:08 PM
Gambling may be bad but it's also another way to enjoy life and you must have limitation when gambling. Start with the money you afford to lose so that you still have money. Having strategy can also help you think gambling is not all about bringing a negative impact on your life. Stay Posirive, avoid getting involved too much.

I guess your right, gambling might have a negative effect on someone's social life but if it will be addressed correctly then it can also release stress. So doing gambling is just another way of recreation ad not for addiction.
For me, gambling is just another form of socialization but somehow some people will seriously make this as another profitable job(which they are wrong). Some of us have fall into addiction cause they'll never control themselves and so the government let this things happen.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: Johnyz on March 07, 2019, 02:04:27 PM
Gambling may be bad but it's also another way to enjoy life and you must have limitation when gambling. Start with the money you afford to lose so that you still have money. Having strategy can also help you think gambling is not all about bringing a negative impact on your life. Stay Posirive, avoid getting involved too much.

I guess your right, gambling might have a negative effect on someone's social life but if it will be addressed correctly then it can also release stress. So doing gambling is just another way of recreation ad not for addiction.
Gambling should be treated well, its not a source of income because of its nature, we can really have fun on this. But when i go to casinos last time, i saw a more serious crowd who are keep on playing withouth having any mark of happiness on their face, i think gambling makes them more stress which is not healthy.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: ruthbabe on March 07, 2019, 03:00:42 PM
Well, by calling degenerates those people who gamble I think it's exaggerated or overstated. Degenerate could mean immoral or having lost the physical, mental, or moral qualities. There were rich and famous who gamble, VIPs, politicians, and head of states, as well, I think they wouldn't be happy if they chance upon your subject.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: nakamura12 on March 07, 2019, 03:13:16 PM
For me, gambling is just another form of socialization but somehow some people will seriously make this as another profitable job(which they are wrong). Some of us have fall into addiction cause they'll never control themselves and so the government let this things happen.
Unless you made a right decision not to fall in gambling too much that will result to gambling addiction. Once a person started to learn then that person will have a hard time to stop being addicted in gambling for example. You are right about another kind of socialazation but it can also put you into a real mess which is hard to overcome and start worrying other things that will result in great stress and worst possible to happen is you'll be penniless.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: qwertyup23 on March 07, 2019, 03:38:20 PM
What created the stigma towards gambling is not the act itself, but the addiction that someone develops in a continuous basis. Anyone who is addicted to something would exercise the means of satisfying themselves with that hobby. They fail to see the negative effects of it especially to their surroundings since they get close-minded whenever they do it.
Gambling, or like any other hobby that is addicting, can be dangerous if one lacks the discipline to control it.

For me, gambling is just another form of socialization but somehow some people will seriously make this as another profitable job(which they are wrong). Some of us have fall into addiction cause they'll never control themselves and so the government let this things happen.
Unless you made a right decision not to fall in gambling too much that will result to gambling addiction. Once a person started to learn then that person will have a hard time to stop being addicted in gambling for example. You are right about another kind of socialazation but it can also put you into a real mess which is hard to overcome and start worrying other things that will result in great stress and worst possible to happen is you'll be penniless.

Unfortunately, addicts (in general) only care about themselves and the hobby that they do. They tend to ignore the people that they affect and they are also manipulative at some point.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: khaled0111 on March 07, 2019, 04:49:28 PM
I don't know why you call them degenerates! yep, it is hostile.
And why do you separate regular gamblers from those gambling for fun!
As far as they don't hurt anyone, they are free to do whatever they want with their money <= this should be the cryteria to tell whether a gambler is a degenerate or not, not how often he gambles.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: beerlover on March 07, 2019, 06:29:53 PM
I think it’s insensitive to call adults that gamble degenerates, this is because these passionate gamblers are pretty much in their right senses and they only do these as a way to get money or become rich. Many have in one way or the other mapped out the kind of life they want, the good things of life they would like to enjoy and they see gambling as a way of making money to make them achieve those dream.

Yes, it’s true that most time it looks as though they are addicted but truth is passion leads to addiction. I am sure they would also put same energy in other things that can bring them money if they had an idea of it. The society these days see something wrong with gambling because of the few times some people loose and not gain anything but the truth is that all businesses involves risk and many  times the higher the risk, the greater the benefit and that is exactly how it is with gambling.

Gambling may not be a way you ever want to make money and that is fine but I don’t think you should discourage those who do it if you can’t get them another profitable idea to becoming rich. I think what is necessary is for gamblers to learn discipline and know when to stop or when to pause.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: Ucy on March 07, 2019, 06:36:57 PM
You shouldn't be promoting gambling then.  May i say non-gamblers like myself who promote gambling are hypocrites... lol

Gambling should be seen as any other game in my opinion. Gambling addiction is the problem not and gambling.
People should be made aware about the implications.
Banning gambling won't prevent people from playing it at home.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: Idrisu on March 07, 2019, 07:06:24 PM
I don't think gambling should be referred to degenerated as many of us here have gotten some benefits from it.  Remember that most of the industry and websites that are promoting cryptocurrencies and bitcoin now are gambling and betting industries . If it is not good for you,  you should not think it is not good for others.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: mich on March 07, 2019, 07:12:22 PM
That is a very harsh statement and you may find yourself offending some people considering the demography you posted to.
You might as well go to the Economics section and claim how much of a scam Bitcoin is and how we should all sell  ::)
I have a work mate who comes in often late on Mondays.  The ongoing joke in the office is that he had a "rough night at his Sunday office" as in he lost a lot of money the night before.
This is a degenerate even if hes a nice man he lets gambling dictate his mood which in return effects others.



Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: greeklogos on March 07, 2019, 08:18:28 PM
My sister is working in a sport betting office and she told some stories about such addicted people. For example, the office worked on new year's holidays just because of there were a lot of ones who wished to make a bet. Or when se goes at work, some people are already impatiently waiting to the office open.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: GregH37 on March 07, 2019, 08:55:05 PM
In my opinion, gambling is not that different from playing games like PUBG, DOTA2, etc., it triggers "joy hormone" and give you a sense of accomplishment. Since young people often cannot control that urge to play (driven from hormone), they would easily be addicted, and in the end, their brain got permanently damaged.

At the end of the day, this is just about self-control.
I agree with you completely and probably that is why there can be law enforcement to ban young ones below a certain age from gambling because they might not really know much about self-control but for a grown adult who has chosen his path and feels that is his way to become rich, he should be left responsible for his decisions.

I have a friend who was just an addicted gambler, he was called names for years and has lost a lot to gambling but earlier this year, luck shone on him and ho won lotto and right now he is among the richest people in my community. Like you said it’s all about self-control.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: Oceat on March 07, 2019, 09:17:58 PM
I think most people don't know what is a "money that you can afford to lose" especially the newbies in gambling. Most of them don't know how to handle their hard earned money to not put it all in their bankroll when gambling. Gambling may be part of our life but when it is being played too much and your focused is center on this, then it is not right to continue further.

Those who gamble without thinking or considering what is the outcome may it be good or bad, it's just that they risk too much just for the money because they think gamble could be a source of income which is literally not true.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: J. Cooper on March 07, 2019, 09:37:52 PM

I hardly consider this a "gotcha" moment since nobody attempted to trick you into anything.  You've discredited yourself by your own lack of integrity having failed to take a principled stance against a behaviour on which you publicly claim to have a negative view. 

Of course, he is mainly referring to the people on the extreme part of the spectrum and not the majority of occasional gamblers. Despite the fact that he thinks negatively about gambling in general (which I do too) but that's besides the point here. The whole signature situation is a funny coincidence but that doesn't mean he has no integrity or makes the statement less valid. That's like saying that someone who works for H&M must have nothing against child labor. Gotta do what you gotta do to get by.

An addiction is a chronic disorder - a complex disease.  People with addiction need treatment rather than your moral judgment of their character.

If you were brought up in an environment where this was never a problem and for some reason still contract the 'disease' and let it escalate to the point where it is everything you do on a day to day basis. Then it's your OWN fault and I have 0.0% pity for you whatsoever. If you know what the risks are before you get into it and still get addicted to it and lack the character to get out of it you ARE a degenerate.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: mersal on March 07, 2019, 10:02:00 PM
People are still in the confused mind to take the decision this will be the main problem for gambling will changing every time and going to the negative side of your decision but always been more calm and composed will needed and also important here so keep it yourself and make it yourself will be the most appropriate statement for this.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: Dreamchaser21 on March 07, 2019, 10:41:11 PM
People are still in the confused mind to take the decision this will be the main problem for gambling will changing every time and going to the negative side of your decision but always been more calm and composed will needed and also important here so keep it yourself and make it yourself will be the most appropriate statement for this.
Situation makes gambler more confused on what decision they will made especially on a winning streak. Gambling almost control everything in our mind so if you don’t have focus then greed will play with you. Gambling is a game where you can lose everything, so you must be ready.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: AmoreJaz on March 07, 2019, 10:54:12 PM
In my opinion, gambling is not that different from playing games like PUBG, DOTA2, etc., it triggers "joy hormone" and give you a sense of accomplishment. Since young people often cannot control that urge to play (driven from hormone), they would easily be addicted, and in the end, their brain got permanently damaged.

At the end of the day, this is just about self-control.

and most of us are weak individuals, so we will be on the other side - gambling addicts!  :P
but seriously immersing yourself into gambling is all about your choice in life.
i know its easy to say, but once you let yourself in this world, hard to get away from it.
your will power will be tested and very few people have the success of accomplishing that.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: nydiacaskey01 on March 07, 2019, 11:02:46 PM
I know my statement may sound pretty hostile on this part of the board, though I'm not talking about the person who will buy a superbowl box or makes a friendly bet with someone over one big game. I think the degenerates are the people sitting around gambling on every game they can possibly gamble on.

I have friends like this, people that will gamble on Mexican Womens Tennis if they can win (or most likely lose) some money on the game. It's a crushing addicition that we've normalized in our culture to make it seem like it's just apart of life. It shouldn't be, and children at a young age should be stopped from gambling until they know the horrible outcomes that gambling can cause. I support every effort by regulators to stem out the bad actors in the gambling field in order to stop children from being hooked on this.

I'd like one of you to change my mind, or at least make me think different about gambling. Because as of right now, I have a pretty negative view on it.
Its sad that we see there are those who are starting to play games or gamble at a very young age. Sometimes we think who should be blamed here, is it the government who should have a strict policy about who can enter gambling premises and at what age or is it the parents who should have educated their children not go to sites or places where gambling is active or it should be the owners of the site or place because they allowed it.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: Indrawan77 on March 07, 2019, 11:29:32 PM
Gambling is fun and entertaining as long as you are not addicted to it and children who are not mentally ready for gambling are not supposed to gamble infact children shouldn't gambling at all, gambling could be entertaining when you don't look for profit but enjoy the process when you bet, imagine you playing a game that can make you earn money and you can play the game with your friends, look for new friends in the gambling arena, it's the process that makes gambling really enjoyable, thrilling and exciting


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: micher143 on March 08, 2019, 01:19:49 AM
I know my statement may sound pretty hostile on this part of the board, though I'm not talking about the person who will buy a superbowl box or makes a friendly bet with someone over one big game. I think the degenerates are the people sitting around gambling on every game they can possibly gamble on.

I have friends like this, people that will gamble on Mexican Womens Tennis if they can win (or most likely lose) some money on the game. It's a crushing addicition that we've normalized in our culture to make it seem like it's just apart of life. It shouldn't be, and children at a young age should be stopped from gambling until they know the horrible outcomes that gambling can cause. I support every effort by regulators to stem out the bad actors in the gambling field in order to stop children from being hooked on this.

I'd like one of you to change my mind, or at least make me think different about gambling. Because as of right now, I have a pretty negative view on it.

Gambling is not really the one who must be blamed in the series of addiction stories because gambling is just a game we can play. Now, addiction is the result created from the behaviors of the people who play gambling because they tend to treat gambling as a part of their life which is the bad thing. Actually gambling is fun and entertaining if you know how to play with it in proper moderation because once you have changed your mind especially with the aim why you are playing gambling, now that will cause the addiction. But if you have a tough mind that you can play gambling without getting addicted on it because you just tend to play for fun and enjoyment, now you do not have to worry about it. You have the choice within you if you will be going into moderation or the other way around because there is no bad thing in gambling, it is the people who plays it that makes the game bad. That is why whenever I play into an  online casino (https://to.crwd.cr/smtm) I am currently into, I always keep in mind that I am playing for the sake of enjoying the variety of games they have even at smaller bet games to keep me out of addiction plus I can enjoy the great bonus I have received for doing my first deposit on it.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: justdimin on March 08, 2019, 06:44:49 PM
It depends on the level of maturity you go with or the purpose behind  the gambling, not many people gamble for fun, some gambles to make extra cash to add to their daily income in order to meet up with the un-ending responsibilities that surrounds us, we has men exploit different means of making money provided it does not involve killing and stealing which I believe gambling does not belong, we can only term gamblers as degenerated ones if they gamble for fun without purpose or gamble for an ulterior motives.

I remember one of these days I was coming from my office after closing late at around 7pm in evening and on my way going home, I decided to branch a gambling box very close to me though in FIAT, I remove my money to play which was little below 1 usd and low and below, my first play gave me about 615 usd in return which is quite close to what I earn monthly.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: Moiyah on March 10, 2019, 04:49:24 AM
Calling gambler a degenerate one is an underestimate word. I understand where you are coming from. All the hatred you've veen feeling and the contradiction you are expressing about gambling since you have friends who were so addicted with it. But why not try to gamble and let us see if you win huge amount and it doubled your money, come here and say again that gamblers are degenerates.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: kurian on March 10, 2019, 05:09:00 AM
I don't find anything wrong in gambling with money you can't afford to lose unless you are addicted. If someone doesn't like gambling, he is allowed to stay away. But in the case of stopping children from gambling, Children below 18 are restricted from entering the casinos or gambling websites. Online gambling sites doesn't have much parameters taken to restrict children from gambling. If they do so, they should implement KYC and it is not welcomed by majority of the gamblers. So, parents should monitor their child's activity and prohibit them from entering casinos.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: Tungsten-1 on March 10, 2019, 06:26:20 PM
Gambling may be bad but it's also another way to enjoy life and you must have limitation when gambling. Start with the money you afford to lose so that you still have money. Having strategy can also help you think gambling is not all about bringing a negative impact on your life. Stay Posirive, avoid getting involved too much.

It is upto individual how they want to take it. Like for those who want to just make money will play only to win and most likely will end up losing a lot of money if do not stop at right time. While for others who just play to entertain them self will continue to gamble and enjoy irrespective of the results.

Because gambling has the possibility to make your life degenerates or worse then you have to prepare it as best you can. yeah it will depend on individuals themselves, whatever their goals in gambling, they have to prepare well like the amount of capital, controls and so on
You are only beast at performing a task only when you have experience and experience comes with failure so I think that if you want to get in to gambling, you would have to try out these adventures and they are really not risk free at all. In addition, self control is important and not letting yourself being deceived by the house at the table is the best trait of any gambler. There are great gamblers who have made names but that too at the expense of facing the risk.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: pixie85 on March 10, 2019, 09:11:20 PM
Isn't calling them degenerates a bit harsh?

If their need to make money at all cost is a form of degeneration then I guess traders are also degenerates. What about used car salesmen? :D
I can't change your mind just as I can't change a mind of someone who calls hookers whores. It's his way of releasing negative emotions towards them rather than opinion.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: whirlcoin on March 10, 2019, 10:02:20 PM
The impact of gambling in my life was outstanding and teeth will give some untold happiness to me that's why I think a gamble a lot more but otherwise gambling is also like the best way to make money without any hard work no need the only smart work here and also it gives a huge entertainment for me when I was in this.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: Adriano2010 on March 10, 2019, 10:26:24 PM
The gambling without any limit can be a problem for most of gamblers. I have a friend who even if he know he lost and not get profit on gambling he still gambling, i told him to try to keep his free time busy, he also move to another country and work there but still has a problem with gambling. But is to much too call them degenerates, they are not, most of them dream to catch an high bet and become millionares, but some of them have a problem and is not a joke.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: Betwrong on March 11, 2019, 10:59:07 AM
~ But is to much too call them degenerates, they are not, most of them dream to catch an high bet and become millionares, but some of them have a problem and is not a joke.

I agree with this, we shouldn't call names here. There are two types of gamblers: those who gamble for entertainment purposes(the vast majority, over 95%) and addicted gamblers that should be rather called sick persons than degenerates. Although the former ones do expect winning some money from their gambling activity, they never risk amounts big enough for ruining their lives, and thus if they lose it is not that painful for them, and they don't chase their losses. In short, most gamblers are not sick, and those who are still shouldn't be called degenerates.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: ethereumhunter on March 11, 2019, 11:28:24 AM
The gambling without any limit can be a problem for most of gamblers. I have a friend who even if he know he lost and not get profit on gambling he still gambling, i told him to try to keep his free time busy, he also move to another country and work there but still has a problem with gambling. But is to much too call them degenerates, they are not, most of them dream to catch an high bet and become millionares, but some of them have a problem and is not a joke.

I think he now becomes an addicting person in gambling because he still gambling, he doesn't listen to you as his friend, he cannot solve the problem with gambling. Maybe he needs someone that closest with him so that person can always remind him about the dangers of gambling for a long time. It's not easy but worth to try and if necessary give advice to his closest person to ask your friend to meet psychiatric and let the expert works to solve his addiction.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: GregH37 on March 11, 2019, 08:34:13 PM
Only one that needs to be changed, we must change our perspective on the gambling game !!! Never make gambling a job, because if someone already considers gambling as a job they will get pressure. Make gambling a pleasure so we will get comfort !!!
Gambling is never meant for a full time job or balancing our financial situations. Gambling original is meant for pleasure and the ones who understand this can have benefits out of gambling. If any of the individual treats gambling as a full time job then he/she would end up in anxiety with no profits going bankrupt.

Gambling should always be treated much cautiously as it is the most addictive thing ever. Gambling can undauntedly give us profits but those profits should be treated as a bonus instead of treating them as a payment.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: proTECH77 on March 11, 2019, 08:55:43 PM
Though to me the subject is inconsequential because am a full time gambler years back and will never change my route. Not all the time i do gamble for money, but many atimes, i do it for fun, also, to chase out loneliness when am alone. Gamblers are better than drug addicts, and am proud to be a Gambler.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: MFahad on March 12, 2019, 04:06:58 AM
I know my statement may sound pretty hostile on this part of the board, though I'm not talking about the person who will buy a superbowl box or makes a friendly bet with someone over one big game. I think the degenerates are the people sitting around gambling on every game they can possibly gamble on.

I have friends like this, people that will gamble on Mexican Womens Tennis if they can win (or most likely lose) some money on the game. It's a crushing addicition that we've normalized in our culture to make it seem like it's just apart of life. It shouldn't be, and children at a young age should be stopped from gambling until they know the horrible outcomes that gambling can cause. I support every effort by regulators to stem out the bad actors in the gambling field in order to stop children from being hooked on this.

I'd like one of you to change my mind, or at least make me think different about gambling. Because as of right now, I have a pretty negative view on it.

No doubt, gambling is a addiction and when you enter on addictive way, then definitely gambling will be dangerous for you, So it is normal thinking if you think negative about gambling.
Basically gambling made it to give us entertainment and if you play it to get entertainment then very good, but when you change your mind and start to play to earn and want profit from gambling then it will be a dangerous thing to you. So play it for entertainment and don't go to recover the loss and earn money form it.  


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: ethereumhunter on March 12, 2019, 11:47:43 AM
People are still in the confused mind to take the decision this will be the main problem for gambling will changing every time and going to the negative side of your decision but always been more calm and composed will needed and also important here so keep it yourself and make it yourself will be the most appropriate statement for this.

Then, I think people will need to learn how to decide to play gambling or not. And if they think that gambling will give the negative side for that person, he doesn't need to play gambling. But I think younger people will be the fast making decision on playing gambling because they have a big curious in many things and the chance for them to become addicted to gambling will wide open.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: MakeMoneyBtc on March 12, 2019, 11:53:55 AM
Though to me the subject is inconsequential because am a full time gambler years back and will never change my route. Not all the time i do gamble for money, but many atimes, i do it for fun, also, to chase out loneliness when am alone. Gamblers are better than drug addicts, and am proud to be a Gambler.
Yes, it's definitely a lot better to be a gambler instead of a durg addict but I don't think you should be proud that you are a gambler as long as you lose more money than you win by doing that. You probably think you do it for fun but think about it again since there are dozens of others ways you could spend that money and have better fun.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: raven7886 on March 12, 2019, 05:51:19 PM
we shouldn't call names here. There are two types of gamblers: those who gamble for entertainment purposes(the vast majority, over 95%) and addicted gamblers that should be rather called sick persons than degenerates. Although the former ones do expect winning some money from their gambling activity, they never risk amounts big enough for ruining their lives, and thus if they lose it is not that painful for them, and they don't chase their losses. In short, most gamblers are not sick, and those who are still shouldn't be called degenerates.
I think the whole arguments is coming based on the headline addressing all who gamble as degenerates and many didn’t read thoroughly through the post to see where he mentioned those who do it to the extreme without control and at the same time there would be people as such who are also on the forum and would find that really insulting.

There would have been better ways to pass the message without calling names and like you have said and I agree with you, even those who play to the extreme shouldn’t be referred to as degeneratesor even sick as addressed by you, maybe we should just leave them ass addicted or aggressive gamblers


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: jhongzjhong on March 12, 2019, 06:18:32 PM
I'd like one of you to change my mind, or at least make me think different about gambling. Because as of right now, I have a pretty negative view on it.
You are against of signature that you've worn? Then useless if they pay you weekly if you have a pretty negative view on it.

We have a different view on gambling and maybe I won't blame you on that. There's nothing wrong if you've to gamble for fun just to have entertainment at that time but if you think that gambling will be your source of income that is a very wrong idea.
You can control addiction don't blame gambling because you are now addicted, the fact is in your self.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: gtglener on March 12, 2019, 07:05:16 PM
I know my statement may sound pretty hostile on this part of the board, though I'm not talking about the person who will buy a superbowl box or makes a friendly bet with someone over one big game. I think the degenerates are the people sitting around gambling on every game they can possibly gamble on.

I have friends like this, people that will gamble on Mexican Womens Tennis if they can win (or most likely lose) some money on the game. It's a crushing addicition that we've normalized in our culture to make it seem like it's just apart of life. It shouldn't be, and children at a young age should be stopped from gambling until they know the horrible outcomes that gambling can cause. I support every effort by regulators to stem out the bad actors in the gambling field in order to stop children from being hooked on this.

I'd like one of you to change my mind, or at least make me think different about gambling. Because as of right now, I have a pretty negative view on it.
I agree. This is all a game of probability which is not a very good game to play because of the persistent uncertainties. Investor will always try to escape the uncertain things. So those who are degenerated are in other words irrational for they put in their money in assets that might not give back return.

But, since the gambling industry is very big to judge, there are people who generate/make money as well.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: guoyu78 on March 13, 2019, 05:43:53 PM
No doubt, gambling is a addiction and when you enter on addictive way, then definitely gambling will be dangerous for you, So it is normal thinking if you think negative about gambling.
Basically gambling made it to give us entertainment and if you play it to get entertainment then very good, but when you change your mind and start to play to earn and want profit from gambling then it will be a dangerous thing to you. So play it for entertainment and don't go to recover the loss and earn money form it.  
Becoming a gambling addict is a process and it starts from what you call entertainment. I think it’s just better to be avoided. Gambling is like starting a journey that has no end and most times its difficult to turn back because of the curiosity to see the end of the journey.

If you say it is entertainment then i would say it is paying, loosing, pay more to recover the lost that makes it even more entertainment hereby becoming addictive. So, with my given illustration, you would realize the best thing is just to avoid gambling. There are other forms of entertainment than having to gamble


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: guybrushthreepwood on March 13, 2019, 06:00:35 PM
I know my statement may sound pretty hostile on this part of the board, though I'm not talking about the person who will buy a superbowl box or makes a friendly bet with someone over one big game. I think the degenerates are the people sitting around gambling on every game they can possibly gamble on.

I have friends like this, people that will gamble on Mexican Womens Tennis if they can win (or most likely lose) some money on the game. It's a crushing addicition that we've normalized in our culture to make it seem like it's just apart of life. It shouldn't be, and children at a young age should be stopped from gambling until they know the horrible outcomes that gambling can cause. I support every effort by regulators to stem out the bad actors in the gambling field in order to stop children from being hooked on this.

I'd like one of you to change my mind, or at least make me think different about gambling. Because as of right now, I have a pretty negative view on it.

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People need to get over this mentality and misconception of anything that can be abused is inherently bad and immoral. Most people can drink alcohol and not have a problem. Most people can do drugs and not have a problem. Most people can have sex and it not become an issue. Same with food, or caffeine and lots of other things. There are a small minority that can't indulge in these things without them becoming a problem and develop addictions but those sorts of people are usually using the behavior to self medicate for some other issue they have and that's when it leads to problems. I personally don't know anyone who has a alcohol or gambling problem. I can indulge in both every now and again and all it is is entertainment to me.  Is it possible that I may develop an addiction to alcohol or gambling in the future? Sure. But I doubt it. I know my limits and I don't use either of them to escape my problems nor do they provide my only excitement in life. They're just entertainment to me, but to say all gamblers are degenerate is like saying all people who drink alcohol are and that's just not true. If people you know have a problem then do your bit to help them out or offer advice but don't make silly sweeping statements and tar everyone with the same brush just because of a minority.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: Symphonized on March 14, 2019, 01:19:50 AM
So you're basically saying that gamblers are an immoral or corrupt or decline or deteriorate physically, mentally, or morally person ???

Since when that term applies to gamblers? If not for specific individuals ofc... But they are not "degenerates". You need start googling some words before assuming their meanings lol...


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: spadormie on March 14, 2019, 04:09:24 AM
I agree. There are so many gamblers continue gambling even thought they don't have any more money. They are in declined because of that. And there comes the case in which that someone will sell all his valuable assets in order to gather a lot of money to gamble. Such degenerate move.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: davinchi on March 15, 2019, 05:20:36 PM
I agree. There are so many gamblers continue gambling even thought they don't have any more money. They are in declined because of that. And there comes the case in which that someone will sell all his valuable assets in order to gather a lot of money to gamble. Such degenerate move.
When you see such a gambler whom has gambled to the extent of losing everything they have labored for, you just know immediately that they are suffering from addition and they need to be attended to.

I expect family and friends to be there for them. There’s no need for calling names as this would not change their perspective. The best is always to let them know there’s  need to visit a counselor. Addicted gamblers would never see anything wrong with what they do, irrespective of the consequences of their action.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: Betwrong on March 16, 2019, 11:20:44 AM
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There would have been better ways to pass the message without calling names and like you have said and I agree with you, even those who play to the extreme shouldn’t be referred to as degenerates or even sick as addressed by you, maybe we should just leave them ass addicted or aggressive gamblers

If "sick" is an offensive word for someone, then I apologize to those who were offended, and I just meant people suffering from an illness, those who need professional help. It is very uncultured, and I'd even say barbaric  to regard such people as inferior because in fact anyone of us can be in their place one day. Any gambler can be addicted to a game, the question is for how long? If it's 2-3 hours, and your bankroll is not greater than that what you can afford to lose, it's okay, but if it's days or even weeks or months, then there's definitely a problem somewhere.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: FIFA worldcup on March 16, 2019, 01:42:21 PM
Though to me the subject is inconsequential because am a full time gambler years back and will never change my route. Not all the time i do gamble for money, but many atimes, i do it for fun, also, to chase out loneliness when am alone. Gamblers are better than drug addicts, and am proud to be a Gambler.
Yes, it's definitely a lot better to be a gambler instead of a durg addict but I don't think you should be proud that you are a gambler as long as you lose more money than you win by doing that. You probably think you do it for fun but think about it again since there are dozens of others ways you could spend that money and have better fun.

Drug addict has a direct effect on your health and there is no positive aspect of it. Gambling addiction is also not so good but still better than drug addiction.

Gambling is not a crime but drug can be related with crime.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: rizkyhiw on May 01, 2019, 06:06:33 PM
Though to me the subject is inconsequential because am a full time gambler years back and will never change my route. Not all the time i do gamble for money, but many atimes, i do it for fun, also, to chase out loneliness when am alone. Gamblers are better than drug addicts, and am proud to be a Gambler.
Yes, it's definitely a lot better to be a gambler instead of a durg addict but I don't think you should be proud that you are a gambler as long as you lose more money than you win by doing that. You probably think you do it for fun but think about it again since there are dozens of others ways you could spend that money and have better fun.

Drug addict has a direct effect on your health and there is no positive aspect of it. Gambling addiction is also not so good but still better than drug addiction.

Gambling is not a crime but drug can be related with crime.

But both are not good if done excessively because we have our own limits, whether all risks are borne by each individual or not, but how to manage them, don't let everything go like playing excessive gambling without controlling income and expenses when someone's addiction arises against gambling, it is the level of psychology of someone who is the most dangerous and may be able to do anything to be able to play, so don't overdo it.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: Ailmand on May 01, 2019, 06:27:50 PM
Gambling had been part of our culture since ages. It had become an entertainment and a way to earn money at the same time. It's really up to people how they contain gambling addiction and greed when they gamble. That is why we should really gamble with moderation. Gambling has a good side to in my own opinion, it can relieve stress and maybe a way to get to know new people.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: Pmalek on May 01, 2019, 06:29:15 PM
I think that those people who gamble away their future and endanger the safety of their families need professional help. I don't think they are degenerates but they do have an illness and a problem that should be treated accordingly and they need to understand that what they are doing has a direct influence on those closest to them who are suffering.

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Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: Oceat on May 01, 2019, 07:27:42 PM
Gambling had been part of our culture since ages. It had become an entertainment and a way to earn money at the same time. It's really up to people how they contain gambling addiction and greed when they gamble. That is why we should really gamble with moderation. Gambling has a good side to in my own opinion, it can relieve stress and maybe a way to get to know new people.
Moderation is really the key to not get too much attention from gambling since it will trigger an unstoppable addiction if triggered without moderation. Gambling is just merely for fun for people in the past and it is not really used as a source of income, thus, people shouldn't focus too much in it because it might trigger the addiction.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: omonuyak on May 01, 2019, 09:51:52 PM
Many people are really involved the condition of what op is referring to as degenerating and I really think that they are going to remain poor as gambling is going to dry up their finance.  Jumping to any gambling opportunities will ever make you to be losing money in a long run.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: Vaculin on May 01, 2019, 10:39:16 PM
Many people are really involved the condition of what op is referring to as degenerating and I really think that they are going to remain poor as gambling is going to dry up their finance.  Jumping to any gambling opportunities will ever make you to be losing money in a long run.
Yes. Gambling that is played without self control will only cause losses in the end. IMO gambling is not really bad as long as you only play it for fun and pure entertainment. But if you only sees it a source of income, and you play it with full addiction, for sure will losses will come to you naturally.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: eternalgloom on May 02, 2019, 09:01:28 AM
~ But is to much too call them degenerates, they are not, most of them dream to catch an high bet and become millionares, but some of them have a problem and is not a joke.

I agree with this, we shouldn't call names here. There are two types of gamblers: those who gamble for entertainment purposes(the vast majority, over 95%) and addicted gamblers that should be rather called sick persons than degenerates. Although the former ones do expect winning some money from their gambling activity, they never risk amounts big enough for ruining their lives, and thus if they lose it is not that painful for them, and they don't chase their losses. In short, most gamblers are not sick, and those who are still shouldn't be called degenerates.

Where do you get those numbers from? I think the percentage of problem gamblers is actually much higher than 5%
Most casinos are actually run in a way that turns people into addicts and they definitely make most of their profits from people who are addicted.

Mind you, this isn't a call to make gambling illegal or anything, I'm just saying that I think the percentage is much higher than 5%


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: Lawrenzoo on May 02, 2019, 04:32:44 PM
i think there is a mystery behind people getting addicted in gambling. Doesnt look natural to me. What would make a grown ass man get addicted to gambling


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: eann014 on May 02, 2019, 08:01:57 PM
Though to me the subject is inconsequential because am a full time gambler years back and will never change my route. Not all the time i do gamble for money, but many atimes, i do it for fun, also, to chase out loneliness when am alone. Gamblers are better than drug addicts, and am proud to be a Gambler.
Yes, it's definitely a lot better to be a gambler instead of a durg addict but I don't think you should be proud that you are a gambler as long as you lose more money than you win by doing that. You probably think you do it for fun but think about it again since there are dozens of others ways you could spend that money and have better fun.
I agree, we can be fun in some other ways and a better ways than gambling although this is already much better than drug addicts there is still some other way that is also much more fun. Maybe gambling is also one of his way to to forget some of his problems.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: Finestream on May 02, 2019, 10:33:12 PM
Though to me the subject is inconsequential because am a full time gambler years back and will never change my route. Not all the time i do gamble for money, but many atimes, i do it for fun, also, to chase out loneliness when am alone. Gamblers are better than drug addicts, and am proud to be a Gambler.
Yes, it's definitely a lot better to be a gambler instead of a durg addict but I don't think you should be proud that you are a gambler as long as you lose more money than you win by doing that. You probably think you do it for fun but think about it again since there are dozens of others ways you could spend that money and have better fun.
I agree, we can be fun in some other ways and a better ways than gambling although this is already much better than drug addicts there is still some other way that is also much more fun. Maybe gambling is also one of his way to to forget some of his problems.
Gambling can make us entertained if we also know how to play with it.But if we make it as a priority,then surely it will cause serious damages in our life.We can lose such a huge amount and worst is that it may totally ruin our life and even the family we have.So gamble only occasionally enough to give us only fun.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: STT on May 02, 2019, 10:52:47 PM
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I have friends like this, people that will gamble on Mexican Womens Tennis if they can win (or most likely lose) some money on the game. It's a crushing addiction that we've normalised in our culture

Its actually a normal part of the human mind I think.  If you consider human origins then we have always taken risk and had a need to overcome apprehension about the risk.   Basic fight or flight is built into us, just freezing like a rabbit in the headlights is the greater negative.

Gambling is only a negative when combined with really bad money management and not restricting yourself to spare time and spare money.  Hope I changed your mind


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: rodel caling on May 02, 2019, 11:13:55 PM
Gambling is entertainment to makes happy while playing because of exciting and yes sad to say have an side effect if didn't know to control itself big possible to go into addiction especially like the op said isn't normally f om the location paople get involve into gambling addiction.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: FlightyPouch on May 02, 2019, 11:35:00 PM
I am not siding with this "degenerate" but will you be able to stop them if they are addicted to it? IWe don't need to call that kind of people degenerates that fast, nstead we should be asking them since we all know how scary gambling addiction is, they might have a problem about that. You do have some point but all I am saying is that they are not degenerates.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: kaya11 on May 02, 2019, 11:54:28 PM
You should blame the government for agreeing with casinos and other gambling sites to run their business on the country. In the first [lace they should be able to predicts what's gonna happen if gambling is allowed in their country. Some kids may have some family problems and such, resulting to rebellion and do other things around including gambling, worst are heinous acts.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: BlueStackz on May 03, 2019, 06:47:02 AM
I agree with this, we shouldn't call names here. There are two types of gamblers: those who gamble for entertainment purposes(the vast majority, over 95%) and addicted gamblers that should be rather called sick persons than degenerates. Although the former ones do expect winning some money from their gambling activity, they never risk amounts big enough for ruining their lives, and thus if they lose it is not that painful for them, and they don't chase their losses. In short, most gamblers are not sick, and those who are still shouldn't be called degenerates.

Where do you get those numbers from? I think the percentage of problem gamblers is actually much higher than 5%
Most casinos are actually run in a way that turns people into addicts and they definitely make most of their profits from people who are addicted.

Mind you, this isn't a call to make gambling illegal or anything, I'm just saying that I think the percentage is much higher than 5%
So how did you also get to know that the number of people who suffer addiction is higher than 5% ? I know over 20 friends that are into gambling and not even one of them is an addicted gambler, which means the number of responsible gamblers is higher than the compulsive gamblers.

The few people who are suffering addiction in gambling are either those who have had a traumatic childhood experience or some greedy bettors who would want to do everything possible to make money and before you know it, they find it difficult to control themselves in the game, so  I advise we stop blaming the gambling sites. The fault is actually from players.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: mornabo on May 03, 2019, 10:06:33 AM
Though to me the subject is inconsequential because am a full time gambler years back and will never change my route. Not all the time i do gamble for money, but many atimes, i do it for fun, also, to chase out loneliness when am alone. Gamblers are better than drug addicts, and am proud to be a Gambler.
Yes, it's definitely a lot better to be a gambler instead of a durg addict but I don't think you should be proud that you are a gambler as long as you lose more money than you win by doing that. You probably think you do it for fun but think about it again since there are dozens of others ways you could spend that money and have better fun.
I agree, we can be fun in some other ways and a better ways than gambling although this is already much better than drug addicts there is still some other way that is also much more fun. Maybe gambling is also one of his way to to forget some of his problems.
Gambling can make us entertained if we also know how to play with it.But if we make it as a priority,then surely it will cause serious damages in our life.We can lose such a huge amount and worst is that it may totally ruin our life and even the family we have.So gamble only occasionally enough to give us only fun.
The end result is how someone has a purpose for and how they control themselves when play gambling. actually the function of gambling is to have fun, thats was right. but everyone has different goals and that goal sometimes makes them lose control and become addicts, because they have goals to be achieved and that makes them have to do anything to achieve that, like keep playing even if they lose


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: sana54210 on May 03, 2019, 03:03:14 PM
i think there is a mystery behind people getting addicted in gambling. Doesnt look natural to me. What would make a grown ass man get addicted to gambling
The mystery behind addiction is Time. Nothing more than that. Never spend too much time uncontrollably in the game. Gambling is highly addictive and not everyone is strong enough to control themselves in playing so it is advisable to reduce the time spent in playing as this has a way of sending signal to the brain.

Gambling addiction is not a respecter of age. There are so many grown men out there suffering from addiction, in short I have one presently and he has been sent to rehab, He’s my cousin. He has sold his house cars and almost about draining his before they started to rescue him. Anyone without self-control can fall victim of addiction irrespective of the age.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: redsun114 on May 06, 2019, 09:26:23 AM
we shouldn't call names here. There are two types of gamblers: those who gamble for entertainment purposes(the vast majority, over 95%) and addicted gamblers that should be rather called sick persons than degenerates. Although the former ones do expect winning some money from their gambling activity, they never risk amounts big enough for ruining their lives, and thus if they lose it is not that painful for them, and they don't chase their losses. In short, most gamblers are not sick, and those who are still shouldn't be called degenerates.
I think the whole arguments is coming based on the headline addressing all who gamble as degenerates and many didn’t read thoroughly through the post to see where he mentioned those who do it to the extreme without control and at the same time there would be people as such who are also on the forum and would find that really insulting.

There would have been better ways to pass the message without calling names and like you have said and I agree with you, even those who play to the extreme shouldn’t be referred to as degeneratesor even sick as addressed by you, maybe we should just leave them ass addicted or aggressive gamblers
In economics, when we talk about rationality, we assume the individual to know all the things needed to make profit in the market. In case of gambling, if you are not able to make profit in the market, there is no point of feeling proud over the name tag. Just be your self because a name tag can do no good to you but being a purposeful gambler can really make you money.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: michellee on May 06, 2019, 05:07:18 PM
You should blame the government for agreeing with casinos and other gambling sites to run their business on the country. In the first [lace they should be able to predicts what's gonna happen if gambling is allowed in their country. Some kids may have some family problems and such, resulting to rebellion and do other things around including gambling, worst are heinous acts.

I don't think that the government will prohibited gambling in his country because the government can get more money from the business especially if many rich people want to play the game. And soon, it will be too late to stop gambling from that country because people will play gambling and they will get more losses from gambling itself.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: JohnBitCo on May 06, 2019, 05:13:07 PM
Though to me the subject is inconsequential because am a full time gambler years back and will never change my route. Not all the time i do gamble for money, but many atimes, i do it for fun, also, to chase out loneliness when am alone. Gamblers are better than drug addicts, and am proud to be a Gambler.
Yes, it's definitely a lot better to be a gambler instead of a durg addict but I don't think you should be proud that you are a gambler as long as you lose more money than you win by doing that. You probably think you do it for fun but think about it again since there are dozens of others ways you could spend that money and have better fun.
I agree, we can be fun in some other ways and a better ways than gambling although this is already much better than drug addicts there is still some other way that is also much more fun. Maybe gambling is also one of his way to to forget some of his problems.
Gambling can make us entertained if we also know how to play with it.But if we make it as a priority,then surely it will cause serious damages in our life.We can lose such a huge amount and worst is that it may totally ruin our life and even the family we have.So gamble only occasionally enough to give us only fun.

You never know how gambling can change your world. You can become millionaire by wining big bets and games. You can even lose all your wealth by losing all in gambling. You might come in gambling with the mind to have fun only and you never know that when you become addicted to it and in the process lose all your money.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: bonker on May 06, 2019, 08:40:27 PM
Gambling always gives the satisfaction when you do it right if you are lost also the gambling entertainment will give you to the best mindset so the decision is always important before the gambling and doing it properly.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: d1ceplayer on May 07, 2019, 10:58:40 AM
Though to me the subject is inconsequential because am a full time gambler years back and will never change my route. Not all the time i do gamble for money, but many atimes, i do it for fun, also, to chase out loneliness when am alone. Gamblers are better than drug addicts, and am proud to be a Gambler.
Yes, it's definitely a lot better to be a gambler instead of a durg addict but I don't think you should be proud that you are a gambler as long as you lose more money than you win by doing that. You probably think you do it for fun but think about it again since there are dozens of others ways you could spend that money and have better fun.
I agree, we can be fun in some other ways and a better ways than gambling although this is already much better than drug addicts there is still some other way that is also much more fun. Maybe gambling is also one of his way to to forget some of his problems.
Gambling can make us entertained if we also know how to play with it.But if we make it as a priority,then surely it will cause serious damages in our life.We can lose such a huge amount and worst is that it may totally ruin our life and even the family we have.So gamble only occasionally enough to give us only fun.

You never know how gambling can change your world. You can become millionaire by wining big bets and games. You can even lose all your wealth by losing all in gambling. You might come in gambling with the mind to have fun only and you never know that when you become addicted to it and in the process lose all your money.
This is the reason the wise guys stay away from participating gambling right? I prefer not to be part of gambling purely because of this very reason. It is just pathetic to loose when you are actually thinking about winning. In case you gambling at a casino, the house edge is always high. It is good to watch and get inspired from movies like 21 and Casino Royal but you need to at least trade and not gamble to be safe financially.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: Kanda Yu on May 07, 2019, 11:28:30 AM
I know my statement may sound pretty hostile on this part of the board, though I'm not talking about the person who will buy a superbowl box or makes a friendly bet with someone over one big game. I think the degenerates are the people sitting around gambling on every game they can possibly gamble on.

I have friends like this, people that will gamble on Mexican Womens Tennis if they can win (or most likely lose) some money on the game. It's a crushing addicition that we've normalized in our culture to make it seem like it's just apart of life. It shouldn't be, and children at a young age should be stopped from gambling until they know the horrible outcomes that gambling can cause. I support every effort by regulators to stem out the bad actors in the gambling field in order to stop children from being hooked on this.

I'd like one of you to change my mind, or at least make me think different about gambling. Because as of right now, I have a pretty negative view on it.
I don't know if I could able to change your mind but I'll try my best. Gambling may be bad for some reason and also may not bad, it will only bad depend on how will you use it like if you use it to earn profit but if you will you use it for entertainment I think there's nothing wrong with that. Personally, I used to play gambling but I ain't get addicted so far probably because I could able to resist the temptation. The bitcoin casino (https://vegascasino.io/casino/video-slots/durian-dynamite?utm_source=ccdd) where I used to play has a lot of amazing features and bonuses, it also has a lot of various games and I think this is perfect to entertain yourself.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: NavI_027 on May 07, 2019, 12:19:45 PM
I know my statement may sound pretty hostile on this part of the board
Based on my impression you are not so hostile, you are very brave instead. Imagine, you have the guts to post this knowing the tendencies of getting bashed lol.
It shouldn't be, and children at a young age should be stopped from gambling until they know the horrible outcomes that gambling can cause. I support every effort by regulators to stem out the bad actors in the gambling field in order to stop children from being hooked on this.
Bad actors? What do you exactly mean by that? Gambling is bad (based on Bible and humanitarian laws) thus people who do such thing is bad as well, so are you pertaining to all of us? ;D

Another thing, I think any casinos and gambling sites nor its owners are not the main responsible for children to get addicted in gambling because they're just doing their business. I'm pretty sure as well that they only intend to advertise their services only to adults so why should we blame them? If a particular child got exposed and the worst is getting addicted to gambling then it's their parents main fault because they fail to enact full guidance to their child. It's their obligation in the first place.
I'd like one of you to change my mind, or at least make me think different about gambling. Because as of right now, I have a pretty negative view on it.
Please don't be, try appreciating its benfit and advantages it could bring. Well, I know that we can't deny the harmful effects of it but every thing got its own silver lining right ;)?


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: BeGoods on May 07, 2019, 12:29:13 PM
I know my statement may sound pretty hostile on this part of the board, though I'm not talking about the person who will buy a superbowl box or makes a friendly bet with someone over one big game. I think the degenerates are the people sitting around gambling on every game they can possibly gamble on.

I have friends like this, people that will gamble on Mexican Womens Tennis if they can win (or most likely lose) some money on the game. It's a crushing addicition that we've normalized in our culture to make it seem like it's just apart of life. It shouldn't be, and children at a young age should be stopped from gambling until they know the horrible outcomes that gambling can cause. I support every effort by regulators to stem out the bad actors in the gambling field in order to stop children from being hooked on this.

I'd like one of you to change my mind, or at least make me think different about gambling. Because as of right now, I have a pretty negative view on it.
It's natural that many people think badly about the influence of gambling. but in my opinion banning young people and make them stop to play gambling will be much more difficult, and that is not the way out. I think we can start socializing that gambling is not a place to generate wealth, because people who become addicts initially have that thought, make young people believe that gambling is just for fun. it's a better solution


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: rijaljun on May 07, 2019, 01:08:28 PM
I know my statement may sound pretty hostile on this part of the board, though I'm not talking about the person who will buy a superbowl box or makes a friendly bet with someone over one big game. I think the degenerates are the people sitting around gambling on every game they can possibly gamble on.

I have friends like this, people that will gamble on Mexican Womens Tennis if they can win (or most likely lose) some money on the game. It's a crushing addicition that we've normalized in our culture to make it seem like it's just apart of life. It shouldn't be, and children at a young age should be stopped from gambling until they know the horrible outcomes that gambling can cause. I support every effort by regulators to stem out the bad actors in the gambling field in order to stop children from being hooked on this.

I'd like one of you to change my mind, or at least make me think different about gambling. Because as of right now, I have a pretty negative view on it.

It's natural that many people think badly about the influence of gambling. but in my opinion banning young people and make them stop to play gambling will be much more difficult, and that is not the way out. I think we can start socializing that gambling is not a place to generate wealth, because people who become addicts initially have that thought, make young people believe that gambling is just for fun. it's a better solution
Yepp, most of young people can't control emotion yet and gambling could easily take control of them. I sometimes believe that gambling is not good for underage cause when they lose, they will likely to use their emotion, instead of their mind and that's really bad for their future. I agree with your opinion that we need to teach young people that gambling is not a right way to make people rich, even we can be rich from gambling but it's extremely risky.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: Polar91 on May 07, 2019, 01:42:31 PM
You should blame the government for agreeing with casinos and other gambling sites to run their business on the country. In the first [lace they should be able to predicts what's gonna happen if gambling is allowed in their country. Some kids may have some family problems and such, resulting to rebellion and do other things around including gambling, worst are heinous acts.
I don't believe it's government's fault. In fact, government are very strict regulating gambling. In my opnion, it's more one parent's fault; they know what are the responsibilities in every of their actions. Kids won't be influenced by wrong deeds if their parents become a good model for them.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: omonuyak on May 07, 2019, 08:10:42 PM
Our mind contained alot of things and addicted to gambling is one of those things. We should not be carry away by how many people has lose in gambling and think that it is for the degenerated mind but have in mind that they are people making it also in gambling.  The way we used our mind is what enabling us to get something from it.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: shield132 on May 07, 2019, 09:08:01 PM
I know my statement may sound pretty hostile on this part of the board, though I'm not talking about the person who will buy a superbowl box or makes a friendly bet with someone over one big game. I think the degenerates are the people sitting around gambling on every game they can possibly gamble on.

I have friends like this, people that will gamble on Mexican Womens Tennis if they can win (or most likely lose) some money on the game. It's a crushing addicition that we've normalized in our culture to make it seem like it's just apart of life. It shouldn't be, and children at a young age should be stopped from gambling until they know the horrible outcomes that gambling can cause. I support every effort by regulators to stem out the bad actors in the gambling field in order to stop children from being hooked on this.

I'd like one of you to change my mind, or at least make me think different about gambling. Because as of right now, I have a pretty negative view on it.
Not everyone, depends on gambler. Since we talk so loudly, the only persons I can call degenerate are those who are very poor and instead of trying to get job, spend all of their money (usually given by mother or father) in casino with hope that they are smart and some day they'll beat casino and want to make gambling their "job" because they are so lazy.
Otherwise what's wrong if I have good salary, feed family and etc but gamble with some bucks because I enjoy playing dice or poker or etc? Am I still stupid? Can deposit 1$ daily and never exceed that amount, just get 1 hour play of poker after stressful day.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: uneng on May 08, 2019, 02:25:06 AM
The problem is just the addiction. Gambling can be a friendly activity like any other you do on weekends, holidays and vacations. What isn't normal, as you said, is someone who is every day behind a computer or gambling machine spending money that he or she can't afford to lose.
However you can't stop this issue imposing heavy regulations on gambling activity, what would be harmful for the industry and for the economy of a city or country. Think what would be Las Vegas for an example, without gambling or with heavy regulations over it.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: tortic25 on May 08, 2019, 06:59:53 AM
Gambling may be bad but it's also another way to enjoy life and you must have limitation when gambling. Start with the money you afford to lose so that you still have money. Having strategy can also help you think gambling is not all about bringing a negative impact on your life. Stay Posirive, avoid getting involved too much.

As I said originally, I'm not talking about the holiday betters or the people that do it just because the people in the office are doing it just to fit in. I'm talking about the people who are nonstop about the fact that they have a 'sure thing' or that this is the game that's going to turn them around. Stuff like that.

There's no real way for this sort of gambler to be able to keep it without the emotions, as they thrive off of the winnings and the losses and never are able to quench the thirst of gambling. It's a never ending battle that you're never going to be able to fully leave unless you go COLD TURKEY.

This normalization of certain types of betting: Be it DraftKings or one of those weekly sports betting, or just some random bets you'd make at school with some friends are going to be the downfall of this newest generation.

i think every gambler is different, i'm not a gambler who does social gambling/ or just occasionally, i do it alot.

but i gamble what i can afford, for months at a time and, when i don't have enough to throw away i can quit for months at a time. and i know almost every gambler has said they can stop at any time, but i have done it dozens of times.
I have won thousands and didn't feel the need to keep going so i cashed out.
i have won 500$+ dozens of times and felt like it wasn't enough to cashout, and lost it. a majority of what i play is 5-10$ deposits so these would be 30x-50x wins and i'm not satisfied. i'm not rich or making great money, but when i cashout i want to get something nice. but if i didn't go for those big cashouts i'd probably still average around the same winnings.

my definition of a degen is someone who can't stop, and someone willing to scam or steal just to play.  i think it's fine to gamble nonstop if you're winning or losing and not effecting you financially, if you feel you need it instead of want it it's also a problem.

my last few big wins was years ago, and i still consider being in the green
"nonstop about the fact that they have a 'sure thing' or that this is the game that's going to turn them around. Stuff like that."
i think only a gambler can point this out, you will probably think i'm as crazy as the ones youre talking about but,
there are alot of gamblers who make a living gambling, that other gamblers see as idols. its no different from an artist wanting a 1 in a million contract and refusing to giveup on their dreams because it's not realistic.
it's impossible to make a living playing dice,roulette etc, unless you find and exploit which many has done in the past but that's not my point. games where you can gain an edge and perfect it, i think that's what a majority of players mean when they want to make a living playing it.


also
A perfect example would be from my past experience.
I had an unrealistic goal to win every poker tournament i played.
even though freeroll players are worse this was 12 different tournaments that day, with 1000-1400 players in each. i came in first out of 10 of those and in the top 3 all 12 games
building those stacks, avoiding badbeats, plus multitabling some of those, thinking about how it impossible it seems and achieving it the one day i make it my goal.

I don't intend to make a living gambling but i think anyone that envisions the impossible has a better shot then those that limit their selves.

I'm everything you described as a degen, and i'm perfectly happy with the way i gamble, it doesn't fit my definition of a degen but like i said there's alot of different types of gamblers and your definition covers almost all of them, overall i think you are judging from lack of information and experience. and the only way to change your mind is if you change your definition of what a degen is.


I know my statement may sound pretty hostile on this part of the board, though I'm not talking about the person who will buy a superbowl box or makes a friendly bet with someone over one big game. I think the degenerates are the people sitting around gambling on every game they can possibly gamble on.

I have friends like this, people that will gamble on Mexican Womens Tennis if they can win (or most likely lose) some money on the game. It's a crushing addicition that we've normalized in our culture to make it seem like it's just apart of life. It shouldn't be, and children at a young age should be stopped from gambling until they know the horrible outcomes that gambling can cause. I support every effort by regulators to stem out the bad actors in the gambling field in order to stop children from being hooked on this.

I'd like one of you to change my mind, or at least make me think different about gambling. Because as of right now, I have a pretty negative view on it.

just because your friends gamble doesn't mean they're addicted.
I also started gambling at 13 lol, if the person is prone to addiction i don't see any logic with your argument "wait till they see the horrible outcomes" as an adult" as a child their losses would be limited and would be more likely to get help at an early age.


"we've normalized in our culture to make it seem like it's just apart of life."


i don't know what country you're in, but most countries thats known for gambling, united states,mascow,macau,sidney,dubai offer some level of freedom to do the things you genuinely enjoy.  ""but yeah, no one actually enjoys it we forced it into our culture so the minority which are addicted gamblers can suffer. while the rest of the gamblers keeping these big casinos in business are doing it just to laugh at the addicts"""

your'e really misinformed





Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: bitgolden on May 09, 2019, 06:56:05 AM
The problem is just the addiction. Gambling can be a friendly activity like any other you do on weekends, holidays and vacations. What isn't normal, as you said, is someone who is every day behind a computer or gambling machine spending money that he or she can't afford to lose.
However you can't stop this issue imposing heavy regulations on gambling activity, what would be harmful for the industry and for the economy of a city or country. Think what would be Las Vegas for an example, without gambling or with heavy regulations over it.
You used the right word mate and that is friendly activity. But the mistake is people who now that it as an office or avenue to make money, some people now gamble because they want to get rich overnight. So out of desperation, they will commit money that is too much for them to loose, some will now be on the game all and all nights and this is really very bad.

If this game can be seen as a friendly activity as used by the above poster, then players will understand the aspect of playing moderately. Just play with the intention to catch fun, spend the little you can afford, just like we make budgets to go to eateries. This way, we will not have so much history of addicted gamblers.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: Bitcotalk on May 09, 2019, 11:30:20 AM
I know my statement may sound pretty hostile on this part of the board, though I'm not talking about the person who will buy a superbowl box or makes a friendly bet with someone over one big game. I think the degenerates are the people sitting around gambling on every game they can possibly gamble on.

I have friends like this, people that will gamble on Mexican Womens Tennis if they can win (or most likely lose) some money on the game. It's a crushing addicition that we've normalized in our culture to make it seem like it's just apart of life. It shouldn't be, and children at a young age should be stopped from gambling until they know the horrible outcomes that gambling can cause. I support every effort by regulators to stem out the bad actors in the gambling field in order to stop children from being hooked on this.

I'd like one of you to change my mind, or at least make me think different about gambling. Because as of right now, I have a pretty negative view on it.
You’re saying the truth . Gambling has a lot of negative impacts, and where u live I do see children who are gamblers and I just imagine what their future will be like, cause most of them I know that started living such life as a kid ended up with a miserable life. The worst of it all is that some places will be permitting little children to come in and gamble, when they know that it us very bad,. I wouldn’t blame them,  they just want to make money.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: Malsetid on May 12, 2019, 07:45:02 AM
I know my statement may sound pretty hostile on this part of the board, though I'm not talking about the person who will buy a superbowl box or makes a friendly bet with someone over one big game. I think the degenerates are the people sitting around gambling on every game they can possibly gamble on.

I have friends like this, people that will gamble on Mexican Womens Tennis if they can win (or most likely lose) some money on the game. It's a crushing addicition that we've normalized in our culture to make it seem like it's just apart of life. It shouldn't be, and children at a young age should be stopped from gambling until they know the horrible outcomes that gambling can cause. I support every effort by regulators to stem out the bad actors in the gambling field in order to stop children from being hooked on this.

I'd like one of you to change my mind, or at least make me think different about gambling. Because as of right now, I have a pretty negative view on it.
You’re saying the truth . Gambling has a lot of negative impacts, and where u live I do see children who are gamblers and I just imagine what their future will be like, cause most of them I know that started living such life as a kid ended up with a miserable life. The worst of it all is that some places will be permitting little children to come in and gamble, when they know that it us very bad,. I wouldn’t blame them,  they just want to make money.

Well the term degenerate is a pretty narrow way to look at it. It's like saying these people are senile where in fact, a lot of them are sharp when it comes to other things aside from gambling. We all have our own personal preferences when it comes to entertainment and there sre just some who gets too deep into gambling. Same as those getting addicted to mobile games or going to bars and drinking. You don't vonsider these people degenrates right? Hope i made sense 😁


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: Mig-23 on May 12, 2019, 08:11:39 AM
I know my statement may sound pretty hostile on this part of the board, though I'm not talking about the person who will buy a superbowl box or makes a friendly bet with someone over one big game. I think the degenerates are the people sitting around gambling on every game they can possibly gamble on.

I have friends like this, people that will gamble on Mexican Womens Tennis if they can win (or most likely lose) some money on the game. It's a crushing addicition that we've normalized in our culture to make it seem like it's just apart of life. It shouldn't be, and children at a young age should be stopped from gambling until they know the horrible outcomes that gambling can cause. I support every effort by regulators to stem out the bad actors in the gambling field in order to stop children from being hooked on this.

I'd like one of you to change my mind, or at least make me think different about gambling. Because as of right now, I have a pretty negative view on it.
You’re saying the truth . Gambling has a lot of negative impacts, and where u live I do see children who are gamblers and I just imagine what their future will be like, cause most of them I know that started living such life as a kid ended up with a miserable life. The worst of it all is that some places will be permitting little children to come in and gamble, when they know that it us very bad,. I wouldn’t blame them,  they just want to make money.
They want money because they are in need of money so the people who are growing them and also the respective governments are also reason for these kind of behaviour at younger age.People need to learn in the childhood days which is the only thing give stable income later stages of their life or they just need to wait for their luck to turn on their side at every occasion of betting.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on May 12, 2019, 12:28:18 PM
No one really cares about what you think about gambling and gamblers. As long as they are gambling with their own money and not harming anyone directly, it is not proper to criticize them. In the modern world, it is not considered politically correct to impose your views of morality on someone else. You may be offended by something and the best thing to do in that case should be to stay away from that. 


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: jademaxsuy on May 12, 2019, 01:10:20 PM
Yeah as better this is the way I started to play betting. I have started to bet when there is a high chance of winning unfortunately I lose. This is where the taking another opportunity to bet and win the lose. Yes, I could win but most of the time I lose.

Now, I learn my lesson and that is to keep calm and cool when betting. Never bet when one is not calm for it will lead to a baf decision making.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: Lawrenzoo on May 12, 2019, 06:13:18 PM
No one really cares about what you think about gambling and gamblers. As long as they are gambling with their own money and not harming anyone directly, it is not proper to criticize them. In the modern world, it is not considered politically correct to impose your views of morality on someone else. You may be offended by something and the best thing to do in that case should be to stay away from that. 

We don’t  have to wait for compulsive gamblers to harm anyone before correcting what is wrong. And this idea of they aren’t gambling without money seems to me like we don’t really care about what happens to this individuals. This has nothing to do with imposing opinions on individuals but rather correcting what is wrong, there is always a place for constructive criticism and that is exactly what we are doing here.

There was man I know years back that would spend all his day and time on gambling, no one could correct him or call him names because they all felt it was his money, until this man finished all he had on gambling and rendered his family homeless. Those compulsive gamblers are nothing but degenerates indeed


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: STT on May 12, 2019, 07:22:13 PM
The OP didnt say compulsive, just any gambler which is OTT.   Most gamblers just spend spare money, which is less harmful then spending it on alcohol and cigarettes.   We dont call people who drink or smoke degenerates and both can kill you in the end or lead to misfortune.
The point is not to do any these to excess but anything can be a mistake really


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: Twinkledoe on May 12, 2019, 08:13:53 PM
The OP didnt say compulsive, just any gambler which is OTT.   Most gamblers just spend spare money, which is less harmful then spending it on alcohol and cigarettes.   We dont call people who drink or smoke degenerates and both can kill you in the end or lead to misfortune.
The point is not to do any these to excess but anything can be a mistake really

Excessive gambling can really affect someone else's mind. But if you are just a moderate gambler and using your extra money and knows how to control your funds, I guess you are a responsible gambler that knows how to stick with your limits. And this will not give you a miserable life.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: daarul50 on May 12, 2019, 08:25:23 PM
No one really cares about what you think about gambling and gamblers. As long as they are gambling with their own money and not harming anyone directly, it is not proper to criticize them. In the modern world, it is not considered politically correct to impose your views of morality on someone else. You may be offended by something and the best thing to do in that case should be to stay away from that. 
Giving criticism is okay. However, this criticism will not have a major effect on people who are already addicted to gambling. I think the OP might only give an appeal and remind us all of the dangers and risks if we gamble.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: Vaculin on May 12, 2019, 11:20:39 PM
The OP didnt say compulsive, just any gambler which is OTT.   Most gamblers just spend spare money, which is less harmful then spending it on alcohol and cigarettes.   We dont call people who drink or smoke degenerates and both can kill you in the end or lead to misfortune.
The point is not to do any these to excess but anything can be a mistake really

Excessive gambling can really affect someone else's mind. But if you are just a moderate gambler and using your extra money and knows how to control your funds, I guess you are a responsible gambler that knows how to stick with your limits. And this will not give you a miserable life.
Yes. Gambling with your own limits might keep you from being addicted to it. Gamble only with your extra money and if you happened to lose them all, then just go home and just spend time with your loved ones. Never try chasing your losses by gambling even more because definitely you will end up a big loser at the end of the day.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: xWolfx on May 12, 2019, 11:27:05 PM
You used the right word mate and that is friendly activity. But the mistake is people who now that it as an office or avenue to make money, some people now gamble because they want to get rich overnight. So out of desperation, they will commit money that is too much for them to loose, some will now be on the game all and all nights and this is really very bad.

If this game can be seen as a friendly activity as used by the above poster, then players will understand the aspect of playing moderately. Just play with the intention to catch fun, spend the little you can afford, just like we make budgets to go to eateries. This way, we will not have so much history of addicted gamblers.

That is the thing, understanding the aspect of playing moderately and with balance. How? Putting limits to the time and money you will spend daily or weekly. Daily limits are a lot better when you faced addiction in the past, day by day effort and having a step by step mindset can release a lot of chains made by yourself inside your mind.

Also you are 100% right that some people do it to try to get rich overnight but a lot of people do it for fun too and it's something that needs to be understood since it's so recreational like MMORPG's.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: sweetbet on May 12, 2019, 11:50:49 PM
Not everyone who drinks alcohol turns into a drunk, and not everyone who plays the slot machine turns into an addict. It's all about being an adult, setting limits and taking responsibility for our actions. Some people have addictive personalities and/or need to grow up before they destroy their lives and wreck the lives of their families and children. There's nothing wrong with having the occasional wager on the slots or Roulette table, but some people go way overboard and gamble more than they can afford to lose, leaving their dependents to go hungry, etc. I don't have any sympathy for degenerates like that. I only feel sorry for their children and families.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: MFahad on May 13, 2019, 03:31:31 AM
Not everyone who drinks alcohol turns into a drunk, and not everyone who plays the slot machine turns into an addict. It's all about being an adult, setting limits and taking responsibility for our actions. Some people have addictive personalities and/or need to grow up before they destroy their lives and wreck the lives of their families and children. There's nothing wrong with having the occasional wager on the slots or Roulette table, but some people go way overboard and gamble more than they can afford to lose, leaving their dependents to go hungry, etc. I don't have any sympathy for degenerates like that. I only feel sorry for their children and families.

Indeed, we need to choose a normal way in gambling, if we cross our limit then it become dangerous for us, and it is true, that mostly people have negative thinking about it. It is because we can't control ourself and we cross our limitation in gambling.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: coin-investor on May 13, 2019, 09:30:36 AM
I don't think so, if these people are degenerate in mind then the government should ban all forms of gambling because they do not want a society with degenerate minds, some go to gambling sites for entertainment and some to make money of course, there's a risk factor, but if you have a supportive friends and family you will not end up as a compulsive gambler.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: jak3 on May 13, 2019, 10:19:10 AM
this is because you are watching gambling from only one negative side. try to imagine what profit you make from gambling and no I am not talking about money. people feel good and they become happy and lucky when they win. your brain sees that signal as a reward and as we know because of human evolution your brain tries to become more and more perfect with where it gets the reward. But always see gambling as a plaything as when you play a game and win or lose you do not care. but because money is involved here the reward signal in your brain is much bigger. so stop thinking it is special and just treat it like a normal computer game where it doesn't matter if you win or lose.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: Skrattar Du on May 14, 2019, 02:06:22 AM
I know my statement may sound pretty hostile on this part of the board, though I'm not talking about the person who will buy a superbowl box or makes a friendly bet with someone over one big game. I think the degenerates are the people sitting around gambling on every game they can possibly gamble on.

I have friends like this, people that will gamble on Mexican Womens Tennis if they can win (or most likely lose) some money on the game. It's a crushing addicition that we've normalized in our culture to make it seem like it's just apart of life. It shouldn't be, and children at a young age should be stopped from gambling until they know the horrible outcomes that gambling can cause. I support every effort by regulators to stem out the bad actors in the gambling field in order to stop children from being hooked on this.

I'd like one of you to change my mind, or at least make me think different about gambling. Because as of right now, I have a pretty negative view on it.
I don't know if I could able to change your mind but I'll try my best. Gambling may be bad for some reason and also may not bad, it will only bad depend on how will you use it like if you use it to earn profit but if you will you use it for entertainment I think there's nothing wrong with that. Personally, I used to play gambling but I ain't get addicted so far probably because I could able to resist the temptation. The bitcoin casino (https://vegascasino.io/casino/video-slots/durian-dynamite?utm_source=ccdd) where I used to play has a lot of amazing features and bonuses, it also has a lot of various games and I think this is perfect to entertain yourself.

It is really hard to changed up someone's mind thinking about gambling. Well, our society have already set its meaning that whenever other people would hear the word 'gambling' is that it is a bad act or doing because it has been that colloquial mindset of many people around. Actually, gambling may be a bad or a good one depending on the user or player but gambling itself must not be the one to be blamed on that because it is just a game and the player is the one who decides the path he will went through. But personally speaking that is based on my experience as a gambler, playing gambling is really fun and exciting for as long as you know what is the reason why you are playing and know your limits upon playing because by the end of the day, even the game way really intensifying, we still have the control on ourselves. That is what I have proven upon playing into a crypto casino which is Vegas casino where I play variety of games and enjoy such great deals of bonuses which tells me that playing gambling is not really that bad as long as the player do know his own limitations and having that self-control to manage his own.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: neonshium on May 14, 2019, 07:25:21 AM
I don't think so, if these people are degenerate in mind then the government should ban all forms of gambling because they do not want a society with degenerate minds, some go to gambling sites for entertainment and some to make money of course, there's a risk factor, but if you have a supportive friends and family you will not end up as a compulsive gambler.
You can get both experiences from the two types of gamblers which will affect your mentality with which you look at gambling. Those gamblers who usually lose in the gambling will always resist you to abstain yourself from gambling but those gamblers who are having a good time with it will encourage you to do the same. You should not really make your mind to start gambling just for money reason.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: smyslov on May 14, 2019, 08:08:57 AM
It's their money and they can do whatever they want on it as long as they do not harm anybody, it's just your perception, there are people who gamble just to entertain themselves and there are who gamble for profit, they satisfy their needs, and wants it's not up to us to judge them and impose our judgement on people, gambling is not a crime.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: upsidedown75 on May 14, 2019, 10:00:55 AM
Yeah as better this is the way I started to play betting. I have started to bet when there is a high chance of winning unfortunately I lose. This is where the taking another opportunity to bet and win the lose. Yes, I could win but most of the time I lose.

Now, I learn my lesson and that is to keep calm and cool when betting. Never bet when one is not calm for it will lead to a baf decision making.
That only way one can be calm in betting is to avoid anxiety and I noticed that anxiety is always common with people who want to make fast and quick money from gambling. Why the anxiety actually?  I feel the essence for varieties of games in gambling is to get fun. Gambling is not a source of income and even when any player desires to play for money, he should at least play moderately.

It’s so nice when we play the game for fun but at the same time we have to be disciplined not to get addicted because such game that can be so interesting if not controlled can result to addiction. The best thing is just to play the game moderately.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: maydna on May 14, 2019, 01:00:17 PM
It's their money and they can do whatever they want on it as long as they do not harm anybody, it's just your perception, there are people who gamble just to entertain themselves and there are who gamble for profit, they satisfy their needs, and wants it's not up to us to judge them and impose our judgement on people, gambling is not a crime.

Yes, you are right. Let them decide whatever they want to do with their money. Even if they spend all of their money, we cannot judge and easy to say they are wrong because we don't know what they think about gambling. But we can always suggest them not to use all of their money in gambling games because we will lose the money no matter how much we use that money. I am sure that if they are aware of that, they will think twice to use all of the money because they will think to use the money for other things.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: TheCoinGrabber on May 14, 2019, 07:59:48 PM
I don't see them any worse than women on the cock carousel - at least these people are stimulating the economy. :D

You can say that excessive gambling is like the obesity epidemic in the US, too much of something that would have been good, or at least harmless in moderation.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: beerlover on May 15, 2019, 04:17:26 PM
Yeah as better this is the way I started to play betting. I have started to bet when there is a high chance of winning unfortunately I lose. This is where the taking another opportunity to bet and win the lose. Yes, I could win but most of the time I lose.

Now, I learn my lesson and that is to keep calm and cool when betting. Never bet when one is not calm for it will lead to a baf decision making.
That only way one can be calm in betting is to avoid anxiety and I noticed that anxiety is always common with people who want to make fast and quick money from gambling. Why the anxiety actually?  I feel the essence for varieties of games in gambling is to get fun. Gambling is not a source of income and even when any player desires to play for money, he should at least play moderately.

It’s so nice when we play the game for fun but at the same time we have to be disciplined not to get addicted because such game that can be so interesting if not controlled can result to addiction. The best thing is just to play the game moderately.
I play for money actually and I do not play with anxiety but rather I am calculative in playing. In my opinion I feel anxiety is even more common with those of you that gamble for fun, so many players who I see gambling for fun get so excited with the game that they usually run out of control and start spending excessively on the game because they want to fulfill their desire to be happy.

For me discipline and self-control is really very important even when we gamble either for fun or for money. There are people who gamble for money that get addicted, same as those who gamble for fun. The only people that  can ever be exempted from gambling addiction are those with self control and can play in moderation.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: semobo on May 15, 2019, 05:16:33 PM
It's their money and they can do whatever they want on it as long as they do not harm anybody, it's just your perception, there are people who gamble just to entertain themselves and there are who gamble for profit, they satisfy their needs, and wants it's not up to us to judge them and impose our judgement on people, gambling is not a crime.
Gambling is not a crime and everyone has the right to enjoy the fun part from gambling but they don't have to stuck with gambling addiction so we have to guide the into right way.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: proTECH77 on May 15, 2019, 05:27:01 PM
That might varies, based on your personal experience but categorically, people that gamble are not degenerated in any form, if such a gambler would put fort the power of self discipline. Have been gambling, and had never be degenerated since my start till date, becasue i gamble with sense, and responsibly, for fun, and for entertainment.   


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: Vaculin on May 15, 2019, 11:41:25 PM
That might varies, based on your personal experience but categorically, people that gamble are not degenerated in any form, if such a gambler would put fort the power of self discipline. Have been gambling, and had never be degenerated since my start till date, becasue i gamble with sense, and responsibly, for fun, and for entertainment.   
Self-discipline is still the best attitude towards gambling. Because if we only play without setting limits for ourselves, surely we will end up being addicted and with addiction follows lot of crimes and big losses in the end. We should only gamble for fun and not to gamble senseless and seriously.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: TimeTeller on May 16, 2019, 01:07:02 AM
That might varies, based on your personal experience but categorically, people that gamble are not degenerated in any form, if such a gambler would put fort the power of self discipline. Have been gambling, and had never be degenerated since my start till date, becasue i gamble with sense, and responsibly, for fun, and for entertainment.   
Self-discipline is still the best attitude towards gambling. Because if we only play without setting limits for ourselves, surely we will end up being addicted and with addiction follows lot of crimes and big losses in the end. We should only gamble for fun and not to gamble senseless and seriously.

Though it is easier said than done, but self-discipline is really your real enemy here.
If all gamblers are gambling just for fun, I doubt those casinos will earn huge amount of money.
Those who become addicted have other purpose other than to entertain themselves, money is of course the obvious major reason.
Those who become addicted are the ones heading to a degenerate life. If they will not address the root of their addiction, I doubt they will ever get out of that terrible situation.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: mich on May 16, 2019, 03:58:29 AM
I think this word degenerate is a negative one for any person let alone someone who wants to risk a game for money.  If they want to do this type of thing for entertainer=meant value ok then. 
If it is doing it everyday then it might be a problem 


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: Reatim on May 16, 2019, 04:11:15 AM
Gambling may be bad but it's also another way to enjoy life and you must have limitation when gambling. Start with the money you afford to lose so that you still have money. Having strategy can also help you think gambling is not all about bringing a negative impact on your life. Stay Posirive, avoid getting involved too much.
The most important thing is you know what game are you playing, familiarity about each game is one factor that may bring positive outcome in everything that we do and specially when we are dealing with gamblers so the best thing is know you game,know your self and expect only enough and never aim for higher winnings because this same reason why gamblers become addicted as they don't put limitations in their gambling habits so look around and learn from somebody's mistakes so won't become one


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: fullhdpixel on May 17, 2019, 09:00:36 AM
I think this word degenerate is a negative one for any person let alone someone who wants to risk a game for money.  If they want to do this type of thing for entertainer=meant value ok then. 
If it is doing it everyday then it might be a problem 
No word is too bad to be used on a person that wishes to destroy himself, compulsive gambling is a very negative way of gambling, and using negative words on compulsive gamblers should not be termed bad if that would transform them to become better players.

I don’t think anyone would use names on a person that decides to just entertain themselves in gambling without playing to the extreme. Gambling is fun and very good for entertainment but then, there should be a place for moderation in playing. Playing without control till one end up addicted makes the player degenerate. So I don’t care how people feel about this name because I feel, those compulsive gamblers really need to come back to their senses.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: sana54210 on May 17, 2019, 09:29:45 AM
That might varies, based on your personal experience but categorically, people that gamble are not degenerated in any form, if such a gambler would put fort the power of self discipline. Have been gambling, and had never be degenerated since my start till date, becasue i gamble with sense, and responsibly, for fun, and for entertainment.   
Self-discipline is still the best attitude towards gambling. Because if we only play without setting limits for ourselves, surely we will end up being addicted and with addiction follows lot of crimes and big losses in the end. We should only gamble for fun and not to gamble senseless and seriously.

Though it is easier said than done, but self-discipline is really your real enemy here.
If all gamblers are gambling just for fun, I doubt those casinos will earn huge amount of money.
Those who become addicted have other purpose other than to entertain themselves, money is of course the obvious major reason.
Those who become addicted are the ones heading to a degenerate life. If they will not address the root of their addiction, I doubt they will ever get out of that terrible situation.
You have a very good point mate, where would casino sites generate income if everyone was just playing for fun. The most important way to play is just to be sensible in playing. And I disagree that money is the reason why people get addicted.

I think there are so many people that have emotional issues and when they bring it to gambling, they allow it becloud their sense of reasoning. The best is to take emotions out of gambling and everyone would be a better gambler. A man breaks up with his relationship and the next decision he takes is to gamble because he feels it would make him forget his worries easily and by the time we know it, he gets carried a way with the game and ends up addicted.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: Pmalek on May 17, 2019, 10:01:18 AM
My uncle told me a story once.

Two guys are sitting in a bar. One is a smoker and the other isn't. The guy who doesn't smoke asks his friend why he is smoking. He calls him an idiot for spending so much money on cigarettes. He says that if he had saved all that money that he spent on cigarettes all those years he could have bought a brand new Ferrari now.

The friend who smokes replies. Do you smoke?
His friend says 'No'.
Well where is your Ferrari then?

The point is whether you gamble or not you will always find ways to spend money on things you don't really need, just look around you. Do you really need a brand new mobile phone every year? Luxury watches, jewellery, 5 pairs of sneakers per year. Why do you need to go to the stadium and pay those ridiculously expensive tickets when you can watch the game on TV?

People like spending money for various reasons and gambling is just one of them. It is only a problem if it affects your health and the safety or you and your family.  


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: Activitycoin on May 17, 2019, 08:35:45 PM
I don't think so, if these people are degenerate in mind then the government should ban all forms of gambling because they do not want a society with degenerate minds, some go to gambling sites for entertainment and some to make money of course, there's a risk factor, but if you have a supportive friends and family you will not end up as a compulsive gambler.
You can get both experiences from the two types of gamblers which will affect your mentality with which you look at gambling. Those gamblers who usually lose in the gambling will always resist you to abstain yourself from gambling but those gamblers who are having a good time with it will encourage you to do the same. You should not really make your mind to start gambling just for money reason.
Yeah some people use to do this when they get bad experience so they try to make other people aware of the all bad about gambling but it does not mean they are jealous or something else maybe they don’t want you to lose the way they did, if you will gain experience from then and try to figure out what was the reason of their lose try to avoid those mistakes and learn from it.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: BUK2016 on May 17, 2019, 09:02:01 PM
Whoever participate in gambling is fully aware of what you called the horrible side of gambling in my opinion. I believe you develop a negative mind against gambling maybe because you must have lost huge amount of money through gambling and I don't blame you but we need not to use that one in discouraging people from participating in gambling whom may end making good money.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: Mahanton on May 17, 2019, 09:09:49 PM
I don't think so, if these people are degenerate in mind then the government should ban all forms of gambling because they do not want a society with degenerate minds, some go to gambling sites for entertainment and some to make money of course, there's a risk factor, but if you have a supportive friends and family you will not end up as a compulsive gambler.
You can get both experiences from the two types of gamblers which will affect your mentality with which you look at gambling. Those gamblers who usually lose in the gambling will always resist you to abstain yourself from gambling but those gamblers who are having a good time with it will encourage you to do the same. You should not really make your mind to start gambling just for money reason.
Yeah some people use to do this when they get bad experience so they try to make other people aware of the all bad about gambling but it does not mean they are jealous or something else maybe they don’t want you to lose the way they did, if you will gain experience from then and try to figure out what was the reason of their lose try to avoid those mistakes and learn from it.

It will just depend on how you do approach towards gambling yet we know that there are different types of gamblers which one do mainly
aim for making profit and one who do aim on seeking entertainment and for those who lose up mostly will surely tell you that you should avoid
gambling but for those who do enjoy without minding losing will normally invite you to play.It would just depend on how yourself will end up
between on two sides.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: aioc on May 17, 2019, 11:17:09 PM
I know my statement may sound pretty hostile on this part of the board, though I'm not talking about the person who will buy a superbowl box or makes a friendly bet with someone over one big game. I think the degenerates are the people sitting around gambling on every game they can possibly gamble on.

I have friends like this, people that will gamble on Mexican Womens Tennis if they can win (or most likely lose) some money on the game. It's a crushing addicition that we've normalized in our culture to make it seem like it's just apart of life. It shouldn't be, and children at a young age should be stopped from gambling until they know the horrible outcomes that gambling can cause. I support every effort by regulators to stem out the bad actors in the gambling field in order to stop children from being hooked on this.

I'd like one of you to change my mind, or at least make me think different about gambling. Because as of right now, I have a pretty negative view on it.

No, they are not, only those people who think they are, gambling has been part of human existence and it exists in all the generation and in all races, even in a country where gambling is prohibited, gambling has always been a form of entertainment it is up to government and individual to never get addicted to this.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: Whosdaddy on May 18, 2019, 09:56:43 AM
I think this word degenerate is a negative one for any person let alone someone who wants to risk a game for money.  If they want to do this type of thing for entertainer=meant value ok then.  
If it is doing it everyday then it might be a problem  
No word is too bad to be used on a person that wishes to destroy himself, compulsive gambling is a very negative way of gambling, and using negative words on compulsive gamblers should not be termed bad if that would transform them to become better players.

I don’t think anyone would use names on a person that decides to just entertain themselves in gambling without playing to the extreme. Gambling is fun and very good for entertainment but then, there should be a place for moderation in playing. Playing without control till one end up addicted makes the player degenerate. So I don’t care how people feel about this name because I feel, those compulsive gamblers really need to come back to their senses.
On the contrary, using harsh words or calling these compulsive gamblers terrible names as these would not change them in any way, instead it will only make things worse. The reason why most people become addicted to gambling is because they are trying to heal from a wound. Research was carried out sometime back and it was realized that many people who have suffered one trauma or the other, either in their early childhood or as grown up adults have the tendency to suffer gambling addiction.

I feel addicted gamblers should be shown love rather than calling them names. Most of them are playing out of their will.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: justspare on May 18, 2019, 01:07:16 PM
I don't think so, if these people are degenerate in mind then the government should ban all forms of gambling because they do not want a society with degenerate minds, some go to gambling sites for entertainment and some to make money of course, there's a risk factor, but if you have a supportive friends and family you will not end up as a compulsive gambler.
You can get both experiences from the two types of gamblers which will affect your mentality with which you look at gambling. Those gamblers who usually lose in the gambling will always resist you to abstain yourself from gambling but those gamblers who are having a good time with it will encourage you to do the same. You should not really make your mind to start gambling just for money reason.
Yeah some people use to do this when they get bad experience so they try to make other people aware of the all bad about gambling but it does not mean they are jealous or something else maybe they don’t want you to lose the way they did, if you will gain experience from then and try to figure out what was the reason of their lose try to avoid those mistakes and learn from it.

Very interesting story. Thank you for sharing. I think different people with how they like to spend their money and they do it mostly on what gives them Joy. I like to spend my money on drinking and I don’t care how much a bottle of wine cost, as long as it is my brand, I would buy it and I have a brother who likes to spend on women, it is always freaking annoying when I see how much he spends on women at the club, but I never judge him for his actions, because I know that I am not perfect either.

I think we should learn to respect people’s decisions and stop using bad words on gamblers. That people spend their money gambling does not mean they do not invest in other things, its just their own way of having fun.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: virasog on May 19, 2019, 04:59:11 AM
It's their money and they can do whatever they want on it as long as they do not harm anybody, it's just your perception, there are people who gamble just to entertain themselves and there are who gamble for profit, they satisfy their needs, and wants it's not up to us to judge them and impose our judgement on people, gambling is not a crime.

Yes, you are right. Let them decide whatever they want to do with their money. Even if they spend all of their money, we cannot judge and easy to say they are wrong because we don't know what they think about gambling. But we can always suggest them not to use all of their money in gambling games because we will lose the money no matter how much we use that money. I am sure that if they are aware of that, they will think twice to use all of the money because they will think to use the money for other things.

I am always of the viewpoint that it is difficult to convince anyone on how much money he or she should spend on gambling. No matter how much we convnice them, people are emotional and do what their heart or mind says. I have warned few of my frineds of not to go all in, in gambling and they agre to me also, but later when they play, they got enotional and spend all of thier money, resulted in a big loss.

Thats why i say that people will not listen to our advices. They will learn from thier mistakes.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: samputin on May 19, 2019, 05:35:18 AM
I think we can lay tons of informations here but I don't think that all of them will change your mind. I mean, you are still the one responsible if you want to change your perspective or not.

However, having a negative view on people who just spends their time in gambling is not a crime. Personally, I feel bad for them, too. I think there's something more that they could do with their money, time, and life in general. But, what more can I do right? It's their life so it's their say. Just like everybody else, they may also have their reason for doing such.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: logicgate on May 19, 2019, 07:18:57 PM
I don't think so, if these people are degenerate in mind then the government should ban all forms of gambling because they do not want a society with degenerate minds, some go to gambling sites for entertainment and some to make money of course, there's a risk factor, but if you have a supportive friends and family you will not end up as a compulsive gambler.
You can get both experiences from the two types of gamblers which will affect your mentality with which you look at gambling. Those gamblers who usually lose in the gambling will always resist you to abstain yourself from gambling but those gamblers who are having a good time with it will encourage you to do the same. You should not really make your mind to start gambling just for money reason.
Yeah some people use to do this when they get bad experience so they try to make other people aware of the all bad about gambling but it does not mean they are jealous or something else maybe they don’t want you to lose the way they did, if you will gain experience from then and try to figure out what was the reason of their lose try to avoid those mistakes and learn from it.

Very interesting story. Thank you for sharing. I think different people with how they like to spend their money and they do it mostly on what gives them Joy. I like to spend my money on drinking and I don’t care how much a bottle of wine cost, as long as it is my brand, I would buy it and I have a brother who likes to spend on women, it is always freaking annoying when I see how much he spends on women at the club, but I never judge him for his actions, because I know that I am not perfect either.

I think we should learn to respect people’s decisions and stop using bad words on gamblers. That people spend their money gambling does not mean they do not invest in other things, its just their own way of having fun.
  This is good if we don’t judge other people infect we should even try to gain knowledge from them, a person who loves to gamble will surely not care about how much he is spending on gambling but he will try to spend as time as possible in gambling, so I think it is good if you use gambling as source of gaining money or to make future but if you will use it for fun or enjoyment then it will make you best gambler.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: hahay on May 19, 2019, 07:28:00 PM
I think we can lay tons of informations here but I don't think that all of them will change your mind. I mean, you are still the one responsible if you want to change your perspective or not.

However, having a negative view on people who just spends their time in gambling is not a crime. Personally, I feel bad for them, too. I think there's something more that they could do with their money, time, and life in general. But, what more can I do right? It's their life so it's their say. Just like everybody else, they may also have their reason for doing such.
Yes, that is indeed their life because they are in a gambling environment that will make gambling his lifestyle, but when you succeed in bringing him into another lifestyle to avoid gambling it is possible that this method can succeed in changing their minds. It's not easy, but when you care about them it is something that will be easy if you are sure to do it.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: michellee on May 20, 2019, 07:11:51 AM
It's their money and they can do whatever they want on it as long as they do not harm anybody, it's just your perception, there are people who gamble just to entertain themselves and there are who gamble for profit, they satisfy their needs, and wants it's not up to us to judge them and impose our judgement on people, gambling is not a crime.
Gambling is not a crime and everyone has the right to enjoy the fun part from gambling but they don't have to stuck with gambling addiction so we have to guide the into right way.

As long as we don't make a noise in the place or do any illegal things related to gambling, I think we can play without a problem. Gamblers who play in online gambling was increased and I am sure that many younger people play behind their computer or mobile phone. They stay at the gambling games because they found an exciting experience inside the games and they think that they can win the game many times but the truth, they cannot do that.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: bitgolden on May 20, 2019, 09:19:44 AM
It's their money and they can do whatever they want on it as long as they do not harm anybody, it's just your perception, there are people who gamble just to entertain themselves and there are who gamble for profit, they satisfy their needs, and wants it's not up to us to judge them and impose our judgement on people, gambling is not a crime.

Yes, you are right. Let them decide whatever they want to do with their money. Even if they spend all of their money, we cannot judge and easy to say they are wrong because we don't know what they think about gambling. But we can always suggest them not to use all of their money in gambling games because we will lose the money no matter how much we use that money. I am sure that if they are aware of that, they will think twice to use all of the money because they will think to use the money for other things.

I am always of the viewpoint that it is difficult to convince anyone on how much money he or she should spend on gambling. No matter how much we convnice them, people are emotional and do what their heart or mind says. I have warned few of my frineds of not to go all in, in gambling and they agre to me also, but later when they play, they got enotional and spend all of thier money, resulted in a big loss.

Thats why i say that people will not listen to our advices. They will learn from thier mistakes.

I feel it’s even better to let them make mistakes sometimes and they would learn better from their mistakes. One thing I have noticed is when it comes to gambling, you can never influence the decision of a gambler. No matter the good intentions you have, they would always feel like you don’t want them to enjoy their game.

And the bad thing about telling a player the amount to spend is that you can never tell the amount that they can afford to spare. $300 might look like a big amount to me but it’s just a chicken change to another gambler, so I can only advise a player to play with moderation and apply wisdom in playing.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: Whosdaddy on May 21, 2019, 06:37:50 AM
I think we can lay tons of informations here but I don't think that all of them will change your mind. I mean, you are still the one responsible if you want to change your perspective or not.

However, having a negative view on people who just spends their time in gambling is not a crime. Personally, I feel bad for them, too. I think there's something more that they could do with their money, time, and life in general. But, what more can I do right? It's their life so it's their say. Just like everybody else, they may also have their reason for doing such.
Exactly. The most difficult thing to do, is trying to change the mindset of a man who already has his mind concluded on an issue. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and if that is what he feels about gambling and gamblers then there is nothing anyone would say that would make him have a change of mind.

Just like I have nothing against those who spend on gambling, its their choice, their life and their money as long as it makes them happy. Whether you spend on gambling or not, the money will still be spent. The most important thing is to do what makes you happy with your money and if gambling is among the things that gives gamblers happiness, then it’s wrong to judge or condemn them.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: iv4n on May 21, 2019, 08:33:21 AM
Recently I had some chat about this word "degen" with some people who gamble a lot. I didn`t know for that expression before so I found out more about it in that conversation. Gamblers who consider other gamblers degens, card players consider sports bettors "degens", sports bettors consider slot machine players "degens", etc... Gambler who will bet on anything and everything. Well In that chat we found out that we are all "degens" and we were proud of that! We like to gamble and we do it often, with the help of crypto now everything is much easier for all the people, no matter where you are from, or which bank card you use.
So why to not be a "degen" if you like what you are doing and you enjoy in that? If you don`t like something turn your head and focus on something else, judging someone, pointing fingers is useless and evil. Better watch for your life and what you are doing!


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: Netnox on May 21, 2019, 09:02:18 AM
As someone who have been gambling for the past few years, I find this thread quite offensive. Who gives you the permission to badmouth other people? Gambling is a perfectly legal activity, and we honestly pay our taxes to the government if we win. And trust me, most of the gambling sites do pay their taxes honestly and punctually. You don't have the right to abuse anyone, just because their behavior doesn't fit within your small frame of morality codes. As long as they are not gambling using money stolen from you, you should be fine.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: 7788bitcoin on May 21, 2019, 10:34:17 AM
I know my statement may sound pretty hostile on this part of the board, though I'm not talking about the person who will buy a superbowl box or makes a friendly bet with someone over one big game. I think the degenerates are the people sitting around gambling on every game they can possibly gamble on.
I am not sure whether people will gamble on everything that is available without having a deeper understanding of the entire match and if someone does that, it is madness and nothing else, either they have a lot of money to gamble or they are trying their luck with the last penny they have to make a living, no one in the right sense will gamble off their hard earned money.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: ricardobs on May 22, 2019, 05:44:06 AM
I know my statement may sound pretty hostile on this part of the board, though I'm not talking about the person who will buy a superbowl box or makes a friendly bet with someone over one big game. I think the degenerates are the people sitting around gambling on every game they can possibly gamble on.

I have friends like this, people that will gamble on Mexican Womens Tennis if they can win (or most likely lose) some money on the game. It's a crushing addicition that we've normalized in our culture to make it seem like it's just apart of life. It shouldn't be, and children at a young age should be stopped from gambling until they know the horrible outcomes that gambling can cause. I support every effort by regulators to stem out the bad actors in the gambling field in order to stop children from being hooked on this.

I'd like one of you to change my mind, or at least make me think different about gambling. Because as of right now, I have a pretty negative view on it.
There are a lot of users who have been in gambling in a long time ago nevertheless they don't think they are addictive toward it. This kind of people plays each and every kind of games in the hope of making a profit. After a specific time later it will become pretty difficult for people like this to overcome from this situation. As far as people who make money when they play it seldom those who play it consistency will definitely lose the money. Gambling is not as bad as people think because if you playing it rarely or keeping gap then its must not addict you play like this.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: Altcoins enthusiast on May 22, 2019, 07:23:39 AM
There's nothing wrong with trying to win some money, especially if the very process is enjoyable. Isn't that the same thing as treasure hunting when people invest their money in some equipment in hopes of finding something valuable? They mostly fail, by the way, and yet treasure hunting is not that frowned upon as gambling. And do you know why? That is because treasure hunting is not that popular as gambling, that's it. I bet there is the same percentage(around 3%) of treasure hunters who ruined their own lives, and perhaps, the lives of those close to them through their activities, as that for gamblers. And there are other similar pursuits too, and stock trading is one of them imo.

So, don't be so harsh on gambling. It's just one of those hobbies that can be very dangerous when abused.
I joined you in disagreement  with op views on this an it some time very important you have explained to us here. Is there any business that did not has risk of losing? We do lose in any other forms of business just that the risk level varies and that is what matters.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: SirLancelot on May 22, 2019, 12:06:53 PM
I know my statement may sound pretty hostile on this part of the board, though I'm not talking about the person who will buy a superbowl box or makes a friendly bet with someone over one big game. I think the degenerates are the people sitting around gambling on every game they can possibly gamble on.

I have friends like this, people that will gamble on Mexican Womens Tennis if they can win (or most likely lose) some money on the game. It's a crushing addicition that we've normalized in our culture to make it seem like it's just apart of life. It shouldn't be, and children at a young age should be stopped from gambling until they know the horrible outcomes that gambling can cause. I support every effort by regulators to stem out the bad actors in the gambling field in order to stop children from being hooked on this.

I'd like one of you to change my mind, or at least make me think different about gambling. Because as of right now, I have a pretty negative view on it.
I just liked where you talked about children who are involved in gambling. To be sincere, it pisses me off when I see children who plays gamble, it's very bad and most of them I know usually ends up as the bad eggs in the society. From gambling they go into other stuffs like arm robbery and stealing. So we really need to stop children from gambling until they are adults and able to make that decisions themselves. Another thing is those people who are so addicted to gambling to they extent they can't control themselves, those people need to stop as well and learn to use their senses.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: therhslv on May 22, 2019, 12:09:37 PM
I know my statement may sound pretty hostile on this part of the board, though I'm not talking about the person who will buy a superbowl box or makes a friendly bet with someone over one big game. I think the degenerates are the people sitting around gambling on every game they can possibly gamble on.

I have friends like this, people that will gamble on Mexican Womens Tennis if they can win (or most likely lose) some money on the game. It's a crushing addicition that we've normalized in our culture to make it seem like it's just apart of life. It shouldn't be, and children at a young age should be stopped from gambling until they know the horrible outcomes that gambling can cause. I support every effort by regulators to stem out the bad actors in the gambling field in order to stop children from being hooked on this.

I'd like one of you to change my mind, or at least make me think different about gambling. Because as of right now, I have a pretty negative view on it.

I would say crypto is kinda gambling aswell currently , nobody knows how it will turn out at the end . But ofcourse crypto compared to gambling have less risk , but still.. Speaking about gambling thats really big business and i think there is no chance that it will be banned or closed . Can i ask does your friends have low income and they gamble to win big money ? Or they earn pretty much , but gamble for fun as they say ? :)


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: Dontme on May 22, 2019, 12:18:23 PM
Gambling may be bad but it's also another way to enjoy life and you must have limitation when gambling. Start with the money you afford to lose so that you still have money. Having strategy can also help you think gambling is not all about bringing a negative impact on your life. Stay Posirive, avoid getting involved too much.
I agree because some peole may experience depressions, stress on something or bored they entertain their selves in gambling it may be bad and yet they enjoy it. You can't just judge a person in hisher physical appearance or what are they doing in their lives maybe it is their own way to forget what are they going through in their lives.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: shoreno on May 22, 2019, 12:20:33 PM
I would say crypto is kinda gambling aswell currently , nobody knows how it will turn out at the end . But ofcourse crypto compared to gambling have less risk , but still..
crypto is more predictable than the outcome of gambling because there are guides in crypto . There are also signs  and you can use them to be able to decide . They can somehow increase your chances of winning but it also depend on the coins that you are hodling  .

Speaking about gambling thats really big business and i think there is no chance that it will be banned or closed .
Depends on a gambling . Some are small and some are big  and it also depend on your country or on other factors if it will be banned or not  .


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: redsun114 on May 22, 2019, 12:51:37 PM
It's their money and they can do whatever they want on it as long as they do not harm anybody, it's just your perception, there are people who gamble just to entertain themselves and there are who gamble for profit, they satisfy their needs, and wants it's not up to us to judge them and impose our judgement on people, gambling is not a crime.
Gambling is not a crime and everyone has the right to enjoy the fun part from gambling but they don't have to stuck with gambling addiction so we have to guide the into right way.

As long as we don't make a noise in the place or do any illegal things related to gambling, I think we can play without a problem. Gamblers who play in online gambling was increased and I am sure that many younger people play behind their computer or mobile phone. They stay at the gambling games because they found an exciting experience inside the games and they think that they can win the game many times but the truth, they cannot do that.
Yes, absolutely as per the time traffic towards the gambling sites has been increasing because of the younger people. The younger and beginner have started coming towards the gambling platform in the hope profits. But eventually, they will understand what does it the gambling. We don't have any problem with gamblers, we just make them alert to don't bend completely towards the gambling and get it addicted to it. Because in the beginning, people take it as fun but after the loss, they will get trusted and in trying to recovering the losing bets they play much more than they can afford. So we are trying to keep the youngster away from this thing, otherwise, it's their choice as well as money.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: Supercrypt on May 22, 2019, 06:02:44 PM
No word is too bad to be used on a person that wishes to destroy himself, compulsive gambling is a very negative way of gambling, and using negative words on compulsive gamblers should not be termed bad if that would transform them to become better players.

I don’t think anyone would use names on a person that decides to just entertain themselves in gambling without playing to the extreme. Gambling is fun and very good for entertainment but then, there should be a place for moderation in playing. Playing without control till one end up addicted makes the player degenerate. So I don’t care how people feel about this name because I feel, those compulsive gamblers really need to come back to their senses.
On the contrary, using harsh words or calling these compulsive gamblers terrible names as these would not change them in any way, instead it will only make things worse. The reason why most people become addicted to gambling is because they are trying to heal from a wound. Research was carried out sometime back and it was realized that many people who have suffered one trauma or the other, either in their early childhood or as grown up adults have the tendency to suffer gambling addiction.

I feel addicted gamblers should be shown love rather than calling them names. Most of them are playing out of their will.
You have a very good point. But gambling is not a rehabilitation center for anyone to heal their wounds. If anyone has suffered any kind of trauma, the best is to avoid gambling environment completely rather than giving the game a bad name.

There’s no tangible excuse for addiction in gambling. Gamblers who get addicted are not only degenerates but cowards who are too weak to confront their fears but would rather sit on a casino site for hours in the name of having fun, not minding that the those much time spent gambling has the ability to destroy them. Anyone with less self-control should try as much as possible to stay clear from gambling.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: Vaculin on May 22, 2019, 08:46:34 PM
Gambling may be bad but it's also another way to enjoy life and you must have limitation when gambling. Start with the money you afford to lose so that you still have money. Having strategy can also help you think gambling is not all about bringing a negative impact on your life. Stay Posirive, avoid getting involved too much.
I agree because some peole may experience depressions, stress on something or bored they entertain their selves in gambling it may be bad and yet they enjoy it. You can't just judge a person in hisher physical appearance or what are they doing in their lives maybe it is their own way to forget what are they going through in their lives.
Gambling is also a good way to make people entertained and have fun especially when they feel boredom. But this should be played with self limits because if not, surely gamblers will end up being addicted on it. And with addiction comes a lot of destructions in life that will cause much troubles to gamblers once this will not be avoided in the first place.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: adzino on May 22, 2019, 08:57:58 PM
Gambling is also a good way to make people entertained and have fun especially when they feel boredom. But this should be played with self limits because if not, surely gamblers will end up being addicted on it. And with addiction comes a lot of destructions in life that will cause much troubles to gamblers once this will not be avoided in the first place.
Nope. Gambling is never a good way to keep people entertained. Well, if you are gambling just small amounts that won't cause any problem in your life, then yeah, you can enjoy gambling. But, if you  take gambling very seriously, then trust me you will no longer be enjoying it since you will be always on certain pressure and stress. Any form of activity that gives you high level stress can never be called a form of entertainment. Yeah, you will enjoy when you win, but if you start losing, that's a whole different story.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: Shinpako09 on May 22, 2019, 09:17:51 PM
Gambling is also a good way to make people entertained and have fun especially when they feel boredom. But this should be played with self limits because if not, surely gamblers will end up being addicted on it. And with addiction comes a lot of destructions in life that will cause much troubles to gamblers once this will not be avoided in the first place.
Nope. Gambling is never a good way to keep people entertained. Well, if you are gambling just small amounts that won't cause any problem in your life, then yeah, you can enjoy gambling. But, if you  take gambling very seriously, then trust me you will no longer be enjoying it since you will be always on certain pressure and stress. Any form of activity that gives you high level stress can never be called a form of entertainment. Yeah, you will enjoy when you win, but if you start losing, that's a whole different story.
You won't get stress as long as you are winning. Even small amount can make you stress if you've done wrong in your game because that's what you came for. With that small amount you are hoping you will win. The reason why you only use small amount is because you are afraid to lose. Actually, that's a good thing. Gambling image won't be change, it will only depend on every person on how they look about it.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: Finestream on May 22, 2019, 11:48:55 PM
Gambling may be bad but it's also another way to enjoy life and you must have limitation when gambling. Start with the money you afford to lose so that you still have money. Having strategy can also help you think gambling is not all about bringing a negative impact on your life. Stay Posirive, avoid getting involved too much.
I agree because some peole may experience depressions, stress on something or bored they entertain their selves in gambling it may be bad and yet they enjoy it. You can't just judge a person in hisher physical appearance or what are they doing in their lives maybe it is their own way to forget what are they going through in their lives.
I think we cannot change the thoughts of people about gambling.But honestly,we can still gamble with a minimal amount just to test ourselves if we are lucky that time and if we lose that amount,then better luck next time.I'm not really seeing gambling as a negative way because it's on the gamblers themselves on how they will discipline theirselves towards gambling.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: Whosdaddy on May 23, 2019, 10:43:29 AM
I know my statement may sound pretty hostile on this part of the board, though I'm not talking about the person who will buy a superbowl box or makes a friendly bet with someone over one big game. I think the degenerates are the people sitting around gambling on every game they can possibly gamble on.
I am not sure whether people will gamble on everything that is available without having a deeper understanding of the entire match and if someone does that, it is madness and nothing else, either they have a lot of money to gamble or they are trying their luck with the last penny they have to make a living, no one in the right sense will gamble off their hard earned money.
There are actually a lot of them and I have seen them. Yes they gamble on everything and they even borrow to play and this is because of the wrong mentality of trying their luck which we try to discourage. How do  support a player to play with their last penny simply because they have to earn a living, is gambling supposed to be a place to earn a living?

Gambling is a game of entertainment and it has been so since ages. My father told me how he has been a gambler and even our forefathers did this, and they never planned becoming rich from gambling, all they did was to have fun, the little profit that comes occasionally is in form of reward.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: upsidedown75 on May 23, 2019, 10:45:52 AM
There's nothing wrong with trying to win some money, especially if the very process is enjoyable. Isn't that the same thing as treasure hunting when people invest their money in some equipment in hopes of finding something valuable? They mostly fail, by the way, and yet treasure hunting is not that frowned upon as gambling. And do you know why? That is because treasure hunting is not that popular as gambling, that's it. I bet there is the same percentage(around 3%) of treasure hunters who ruined their own lives, and perhaps, the lives of those close to them through their activities, as that for gamblers. And there are other similar pursuits too, and stock trading is one of them imo.

So, don't be so harsh on gambling. It's just one of those hobbies that can be very dangerous when abused.
I joined you in disagreement  with op views on this an it some time very important you have explained to us here. Is there any business that did not has risk of losing? We do lose in any other forms of business just that the risk level varies and that is what matters.
I sometimes feel disappointed about comments I read but then I understand that everyone is entitled to their own opinion and its wrong to impose my view on others but it would really be good if everyone can understand that gambling should not and can never be compared to other businesses.

In business, skills are required, there is expertise needed and it can be referred to as a profession but gambling on the other hand is a game of Chance. There might be risk in other businesses which is normal but gambling it self is a Risk that should be avoided as a plague. Those who spend money on gambling with the mindset of seeing it as a business are not only degenerates but almost insane.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: GregH37 on May 23, 2019, 12:30:22 PM
I know my statement may sound pretty hostile on this part of the board, though I'm not talking about the person who will buy a superbowl box or makes a friendly bet with someone over one big game. I think the degenerates are the people sitting around gambling on every game they can possibly gamble on.

I have friends like this, people that will gamble on Mexican Womens Tennis if they can win (or most likely lose) some money on the game. It's a crushing addicition that we've normalized in our culture to make it seem like it's just apart of life. It shouldn't be, and children at a young age should be stopped from gambling until they know the horrible outcomes that gambling can cause. I support every effort by regulators to stem out the bad actors in the gambling field in order to stop children from being hooked on this.

I'd like one of you to change my mind, or at least make me think different about gambling. Because as of right now, I have a pretty negative view on it.
There are a lot of users who have been in gambling in a long time ago nevertheless they don't think they are addictive toward it. This kind of people plays each and every kind of games in the hope of making a profit. After a specific time later it will become pretty difficult for people like this to overcome from this situation. As far as people who make money when they play it seldom those who play it consistency will definitely lose the money. Gambling is not as bad as people think because if you playing it rarely or keeping gap then its must not addict you play like this.
You see those people who see nothing wrong with playing every kind of game, at every point and for the purpose of making money, it won’t take long before they start suffering from gambling addiction. They always think that they are strong enough to overcome but Its always not true because gambling is not made for money and once anyone starts playing it for money, it will only be a matter of time before they start seeing the negative impact
I have seen a number of players who started this way, and they always feel they are smart and in no time they start suffering from addiction by selling all their properties and borrowing from people just to meet up, simply because of desperation to make profit.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: judeafante on May 23, 2019, 12:46:22 PM
You should not generalize this is a bad thing, what John is doing bad should not also attributed to Jack who is doing things differently, gambling will only become bad when it becomes a vice, where gambler goes to the point of stealing and lying, but there are gamblers who treat this as a form of entertainment, just a breather for their stressful life.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: joshy23 on May 23, 2019, 04:02:30 PM
You should not generalize this is a bad thing, what John is doing bad should not also attributed to Jack who is doing things differently, gambling will only become bad when it becomes a vice, where gambler goes to the point of stealing and lying, but there are gamblers who treat this as a form of entertainment, just a breather for their stressful life.
Perfectly said, there's still some gamblers who find this place as an entertainment venue, some of those well known personalities and businessman are also doing some game to socialize and enjoy with their friends, it's always depends from how people thinks about it and how they are affected, reality wise there's addictions that can harmed a gamblers minds but we can't generalized case to case situations.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: zhea on May 24, 2019, 12:19:36 AM
You should not generalize this is a bad thing, what John is doing bad should not also attributed to Jack who is doing things differently, gambling will only become bad when it becomes a vice, where gambler goes to the point of stealing and lying, but there are gamblers who treat this as a form of entertainment, just a breather for their stressful life.
Agree with you, after all it is the gambler who decide for himself and as long as he did not break any laws in a country, he is not degenerates.

There are situations in life wherein you sometimes need money and some people find gambling the only way.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: Cosbycoin on May 24, 2019, 09:40:23 AM
I would say crypto is kinda gambling aswell currently , nobody knows how it will turn out at the end . But ofcourse crypto compared to gambling have less risk , but still..
crypto is more predictable than the outcome of gambling because there are guides in crypto . There are also signs  and you can use them to be able to decide . They can somehow increase your chances of winning but it also depend on the coins that you are hodling  .

Speaking about gambling thats really big business and i think there is no chance that it will be banned or closed .
Depends on a gambling . Some are small and some are big  and it also depend on your country or on other factors if it will be banned or not  .
If you look at the data, and such a wide and high rate of crypto adoption, you might probably change your mindset about crypto. It is the future of currency and has been in wide use in the market. It might be banned in many countries due to their weak financial situation but it is very widely used in the US and Canada and yeah, it is expanding.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: Micerker on May 24, 2019, 10:05:11 AM
Many people choose to gamblers as a job, and they think they can become rich thanks to it. Many platforms are developing a lot of games with different forms to attract users and increase the level of platform experience better. Many Gamblers accept all and don't ignore any games or opportunities to help them win. We cannot change their thoughts, and we need to wait until they change their mind.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: onrise on May 24, 2019, 10:10:54 AM
You should not generalize this is a bad thing, what John is doing bad should not also attributed to Jack who is doing things differently, gambling will only become bad when it becomes a vice, where gambler goes to the point of stealing and lying, but there are gamblers who treat this as a form of entertainment, just a breather for their stressful life.

It is only bad when country has not legalized it and people are still gambling it, or rightly said that when some goes into deep debt or it is effecting someone life, relationship, or borrowing lot of money for gambling or stealing or begging just so that they can gamble as those people are mostly additives.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: Kiweikoo on May 24, 2019, 11:13:46 AM
You should not generalize this is a bad thing, what John is doing bad should not also attributed to Jack who is doing things differently, gambling will only become bad when it becomes a vice, where gambler goes to the point of stealing and lying, but there are gamblers who treat this as a form of entertainment, just a breather for their stressful life.
Perfectly said, there's still some gamblers who find this place as an entertainment venue, some of those well known personalities and businessman are also doing some game to socialize and enjoy with their friends, it's always depends from how people thinks about it and how they are affected, reality wise there's addictions that can harmed a gamblers minds but we can't generalized case to case situations.
There are always exception to even proven theories in economics and social sciences and this is the reason it has never been possible to separate economics from social life. Every individual who gamble in gambling industry is a labor and he or she would gamble for the wages or compensations for his effort or work. It is a dilemma that many among use are willing to labor and not take the compensation.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: logicgate on May 24, 2019, 11:01:24 PM
You should not generalize this is a bad thing, what John is doing bad should not also attributed to Jack who is doing things differently, gambling will only become bad when it becomes a vice, where gambler goes to the point of stealing and lying, but there are gamblers who treat this as a form of entertainment, just a breather for their stressful life.
Perfectly said, there's still some gamblers who find this place as an entertainment venue, some of those well known personalities and businessman are also doing some game to socialize and enjoy with their friends, it's always depends from how people thinks about it and how they are affected, reality wise there's addictions that can harmed a gamblers minds but we can't generalized case to case situations.
There are always exception to even proven theories in economics and social sciences and this is the reason it has never been possible to separate economics from social life. Every individual who gamble in gambling industry is a labor and he or she would gamble for the wages or compensations for his effort or work. It is a dilemma that many among use are willing to labor and not take the compensation.
  Yeah we are labors and we are working to get something from gambling and other earning resources so we should not consider anything including gambling for granted, our social life is dependent on our income resources if we apply good ways of making money it become so easy for us to achieve our goal and to become good gambler or investors.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: virasog on May 25, 2019, 06:18:14 AM
You should not generalize this is a bad thing, what John is doing bad should not also attributed to Jack who is doing things differently, gambling will only become bad when it becomes a vice, where gambler goes to the point of stealing and lying, but there are gamblers who treat this as a form of entertainment, just a breather for their stressful life.

It is only bad when country has not legalized it and people are still gambling it, or rightly said that when some goes into deep debt or it is effecting someone life, relationship, or borrowing lot of money for gambling or stealing or begging just so that they can gamble as those people are mostly additives.



Gambling becomes bad when you misuse it . Doing gambling illegally where it is banned is a sin and should not be done. Obeying the country rules are more important than playing gambling.

Gambling is also bad if you get addicted to it. You play and spend on gambling too much that it effects your spouse, kids and family is certainly not acceptable. Gambling should only be done within limits.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: redsun114 on May 25, 2019, 01:16:19 PM
You should not generalize this is a bad thing, what John is doing bad should not also attributed to Jack who is doing things differently, gambling will only become bad when it becomes a vice, where gambler goes to the point of stealing and lying, but there are gamblers who treat this as a form of entertainment, just a breather for their stressful life.

It is only bad when country has not legalized it and people are still gambling it, or rightly said that when some goes into deep debt or it is effecting someone life, relationship, or borrowing lot of money for gambling or stealing or begging just so that they can gamble as those people are mostly additives.

To be honest, this is a very personal and subjective choice whether or not to gamble for money. The richest of men have crazy habits and they spent big money on things that look absurd according to common man. For example Leonardo’s painting has been sold to Salvatore for a huge $450 million and yeah, same could happen in gambling as one might gamble to enjoy not caring about the money been put in the game.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: fortunecrypto on May 30, 2019, 06:31:37 AM
I know my statement may sound pretty hostile on this part of the board, though I'm not talking about the person who will buy a superbowl box or makes a friendly bet with someone over one big game. I think the degenerates are the people sitting around gambling on every game they can possibly gamble on.

I have friends like this, people that will gamble on Mexican Womens Tennis if they can win (or most likely lose) some money on the game. It's a crushing addicition that we've normalized in our culture to make it seem like it's just apart of life. It shouldn't be, and children at a young age should be stopped from gambling until they know the horrible outcomes that gambling can cause. I support every effort by regulators to stem out the bad actors in the gambling field in order to stop children from being hooked on this.

I'd like one of you to change my mind, or at least make me think different about gambling. Because as of right now, I have a pretty negative view on it.

Maybe you have not met someone who is a responsible gambler, who treat gambling as a form of entertainment, and who knows how to stop and when to stop, please don't treat it like that, if you have friends or known people like that, they don't deserve understanding and help, because it's hard to be in their position.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: Questat on July 26, 2019, 02:34:10 PM
Do not take too seriously, and dont think gambling is bad, but think its a chance to earn money in a short time only.

I think that way, and if I win in gambling, I normally spend my winning and not just counting my loses so I would enjoy spending it.
We can't win all the time and it's very obvious that most of us are losers if they will keep track of our record, so it's wise to just focus on your winning as long as you don't take it seriously like a gambler who do it for a living, winning for me is something to celebrate as it only happens sometimes.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: XCANA on July 26, 2019, 02:42:13 PM
I wouldn't say you are not correct because it depends on the individual who involves in gambling, am different when it come to gambling because I can control myself and equally control my emotions, so, there will be no room for degeneration of whatsoever. Faithfully speaking I have never be into such state since I started my gambling life.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: kennen1113 on July 26, 2019, 03:19:20 PM
I wouldn't say you are not correct because it depends on the individual who involves in gambling, am different when it come to gambling because I can control myself and equally control my emotions, so, there will be no room for degeneration of whatsoever. Faithfully speaking I have never be into such state since I started my gambling life.
You have not fallen into gambling addiction but it will not mean never, what you show here is simply that you are a gambler with a good level of control but how long will this keep, because this life is too busy, very stressful, tired, gambling brings entertainment, but at the same time, it also creates habits, deepening the mentality of participants. And with the development of society being at a higher level, different pressures are creating bigger while making money harder, that leads to many people gambling and becoming more decadent than ever, the number is very large and growing fast


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: syamster on July 26, 2019, 07:01:02 PM
Do not take too seriously, and dont think gambling is bad, but think its a chance to earn money in a short time only.

I think that way, and if I win in gambling, I normally spend my winning and not just counting my loses so I would enjoy spending it.
We can't win all the time and it's very obvious that most of us are losers if they will keep track of our record, so it's wise to just focus on your winning as long as you don't take it seriously like a gambler who do it for a living, winning for me is something to celebrate as it only happens sometimes.
Yeah earning from gambling I good and it also gives us an opportunity to live a good life. When you will have more than one way of earning it makes life easy those who are winning in gambling actually gone have good future it is all about your own skills to manage your warning of those who are scammed but in real gambling there is no lose if you play well.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: omonuyak on July 26, 2019, 07:43:51 PM
I wouldn't say you are not correct because it depends on the individual who involves in gambling, am different when it come to gambling because I can control myself and equally control my emotions, so, there will be no room for degeneration of whatsoever. Faithfully speaking I have never been into such state since I started my gambling life.
Gambling is not life but risk or game! We are here because we can take a risk and not every human being can do that. Many investors and gamblers are not in the right set of mind now because they take gambling too far to the extent of becoming addicted to it and as such degenerated and at that level I will say it is not gambling that is bad but the gamblers become greedy for gain.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: xSkylarx on July 27, 2019, 07:42:42 AM
Imo there are two types of people who gamble. First the one who gambles to enjoy it as a form of entertainment, it doesn't matter to them if they win or not. Second is those who are addicted to gambling, they treat it as a way to earn extra money not realizing they just lose in the long run.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: Saint-loup on July 27, 2019, 07:49:30 AM
I know my statement may sound pretty hostile on this part of the board, though I'm not talking about the person who will buy a superbowl box or makes a friendly bet with someone over one big game. I think the degenerates are the people sitting around gambling on every game they can possibly gamble on.

I have friends like this, people that will gamble on Mexican Womens Tennis if they can win (or most likely lose) some money on the game. It's a crushing addicition that we've normalized in our culture to make it seem like it's just apart of life. It shouldn't be, and children at a young age should be stopped from gambling until they know the horrible outcomes that gambling can cause. I support every effort by regulators to stem out the bad actors in the gambling field in order to stop children from being hooked on this.

I'd like one of you to change my mind, or at least make me think different about gambling. Because as of right now, I have a pretty negative view on it.
Why are you promoting a gambling site in your signature then?
It's a little bit contradictory no?


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: Darker45 on July 27, 2019, 07:51:57 AM
I won't change your mind because I agree with your views. In my country, a lot of people just love to gamble, myself included but not on an addictive level. We gamble on basketball, boxing, tennis, politics, cockfighting, horse race, spiders, turtle race, serial number of bills, color of the next blouse of a teacher, an examination's answer, and countless others. Funny, isn't it?

An argument, for example, could easily be settled with a bet as to whether who is right, for as long as it could be actually confirmed. Quite a literal way of putting-your-money-where-your-mouth-is argument.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: ethereumhunter on July 27, 2019, 09:19:25 AM
Well, we need to understand that everything in excess is bad, everything must be done in moderation and depending also on the motive and purpose of the person playing. If his purpose is only for entertainment then it will not do the player any harm but instead he will enjoy but if his motive is for profit, that will be difficult, that could lead to addiction and he could lost control over his self.

Yes, I am sure you fully understand what is gambling for so you can control yourself inside the gambling games. But unfortunately, not all people can do as what we do and they still playing gambling without having control for themselves. In the end, they will only regret what they did before, but they cannot turn the time back because it's already happening.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: imstillthebest on July 27, 2019, 10:10:17 AM
Well, we need to understand that everything in excess is bad, everything must be done in moderation and depending also on the motive and purpose of the person playing. If his purpose is only for entertainment then it will not do the player any harm but instead he will enjoy but if his motive is for profit, that will be difficult, that could lead to addiction and he could lost control over his self.

Yes, I am sure you fully understand what is gambling for so you can control yourself inside the gambling games. But unfortunately, not all people can do as what we do and they still playing gambling without having control for themselves. In the end, they will only regret what they did before, but they cannot turn the time back because it's already happening.

if ever they realize thier mistakes  , there is a chance that they can revised thier bad doings . some of my freinds were also gambling addicts before but they have changed because im helping them or i convinced them that what they are doing is wrong  . sometimes those people need relief so that they can recover easily  .


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: Spaffin on July 27, 2019, 10:59:34 AM
It seems to me that it is wrong to call a gambler degenerate.  The fact is that very often the excitement is compared with drug addiction, when dependent people go to crimes in order to satisfy their desires.  If a gambler is likened to the same low people, then this name is quite applicable.  But only in such cases, and not in others.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: noormcs5 on July 27, 2019, 11:45:22 AM
I wouldn't say you are not correct because it depends on the individual who involves in gambling, am different when it come to gambling because I can control myself and equally control my emotions, so, there will be no room for degeneration of whatsoever. Faithfully speaking I have never been into such state since I started my gambling life.
Gambling is not life but risk or game! We are here because we can take a risk and not every human being can do that. Many investors and gamblers are not in the right set of mind now because they take gambling too far to the extent of becoming addicted to it and as such degenerated and at that level I will say it is not gambling that is bad but the gamblers become greedy for gain.

Unfortunately many people comes in gambling who have no power to take risk but they come with the hope of wining and they never look at the other side of losing in gambling.  If you do not have complete knowledge of gambling, you should never come in gambling.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: btc78 on July 27, 2019, 11:45:51 AM
Imo there are two types of people who gamble. First the one who gambles to enjoy it as a form of entertainment, it doesn't matter to them if they win or not. Second is those who are addicted to gambling, they treat it as a way to earn extra money not realizing they just lose in the long run.
You didn’t mention the other type of gamblers,those who [b[Gamble for Living[/b] and they are the one who needs attention and help for they are ruining life because of addictions
I admit that in some part of life I almost turn to addiction but lucky I have a friends and family that loves me a lot and they did go along my way until I got to forget about addiction and move the better way.today I can manage my desire in playing and only do this if I wanted to enjoy and entertained


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: princesspoppy on July 27, 2019, 01:55:27 PM
There are lot of times where a simple gambling turns out to be an addiction, most especially when a gambler starts at a very young age. All he feels is the excitement and wanting to win the game, but unfortunately, winning will not be on his side all the time, there comes depression and worries, but this emotions turns out to be the reason why some keeps gambling and gambling till they become addicted to it. Wanting to recover their loss money is one of the reasons why.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: EdenHazard on July 27, 2019, 02:15:15 PM
Well, we need to understand that everything in excess is bad, everything must be done in moderation and depending also on the motive and purpose of the person playing. If his purpose is only for entertainment then it will not do the player any harm but instead he will enjoy but if his motive is for profit, that will be difficult, that could lead to addiction and he could lost control over his self.
I don't why most people consider that gambling is an escape from the entertainment they choose whilst there are a lot of place that can be spend by them without end up with a sorrow, I believe most people who got lost from gambling will end up with sorrow. I guess for those people who choose to play gambling are they who has known the bad side from gambling but they need to proof it. There are only a few people who willing to lose money on the house and the rest they have an intend to gain more profit from it. So, I doubt for those people who says they play gambling only for fun but in fact their purpose is money.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: emberbekas on July 27, 2019, 03:36:03 PM
It seems to me that it is wrong to call a gambler degenerate.  The fact is that very often the excitement is compared with drug addiction, when dependent people go to crimes in order to satisfy their desires.  If a gambler is likened to the same low people, then this name is quite applicable.  But only in such cases, and not in others.

Many people gamble just for fun and does occasionally so for them it does not apply according to me . Only those who just gamble for money and keep on playing till they earn or recover it might get addicted and this people could fall in this category .

As long as we can control ourselves while gambling, I think we will be fine. Never try to risk more than we can afford to lose is the best way to avoid addiction. Indeed, not all people who came into gambling is degenerate.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: logicgate on July 27, 2019, 05:05:42 PM
I wouldn't say you are not correct because it depends on the individual who involves in gambling, am different when it come to gambling because I can control myself and equally control my emotions, so, there will be no room for degeneration of whatsoever. Faithfully speaking I have never been into such state since I started my gambling life.
Gambling is not life but risk or game! We are here because we can take a risk and not every human being can do that. Many investors and gamblers are not in the right set of mind now because they take gambling too far to the extent of becoming addicted to it and as such degenerated and at that level I will say it is not gambling that is bad but the gamblers become greedy for gain.
  So gambling is a momentary investment and is a risky one. You want to replicate your money twice or even four times but you have to take risk for it. Since there is great output provided you win, it is worth risking your money in the gambling. Though there is uncertainty but we have seen people wining millions. In addition, having some money invested in crypto is also a lucrative option. 


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: Decimation on July 27, 2019, 05:15:22 PM
I certainly agree with you on some aspects, however there are some things I would like to point out. I wouldn't really say that the "people" who gamble are degenerates, but rather the industry as a whole. I'm not talking about the concept of gambling itself but more the tactics and objectives that casino's activity pursue.

     1. Gambling often preys on the poor / less fortunate

     2. Casino's take advantage of psychological weaknesses in an attempt to profit

     3. Often we ignore the issue of gambling as a society


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: Saint-loup on July 27, 2019, 05:34:55 PM
I won't change your mind because I agree with your views. In my country, a lot of people just love to gamble, myself included but not on an addictive level. We gamble on basketball, boxing, tennis, politics, cockfighting, horse race, spiders, turtle race, serial number of bills, color of the next blouse of a teacher, an examination's answer, and countless others. Funny, isn't it?

An argument, for example, could easily be settled with a bet as to whether who is right, for as long as it could be actually confirmed. Quite a literal way of putting-your-money-where-your-mouth-is argument.
Spiders??  ???
What are you doing with spiders? On what are you betting with them?
There are spider races? Spider fights?  ???


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: hahay on July 27, 2019, 06:13:10 PM
Negative views about gambling will indeed exist but as long as we can play with full control, then in this way there is no degenerate. No matter about the end result, because as long as you play with money that can lose it is not a problem. But indeed, for addicts who spend time and money in gambling, they fall into this category and children should be kept away from gambling.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: jak3 on July 27, 2019, 11:32:38 PM
Gambling is not bad, it's a good thing but the people who play it became addicted. and having too much on anything is bad even drinking too much water or taking too much medicine can be dangerous to your health, Gambling Addiction is termed as impulsive disorder by doctors and it grows as much as you play so its just the people who are gambling and we have to encourage them and give them wisdom by not saying what is bad with gambling but by how to gamble without greed. it will be like smoking cigreet without the lust of the taste.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: STT on July 27, 2019, 11:50:09 PM
The greater argument is to call everyone normal who gambles because there is no alternative in life but to take risks.    Who here has never crossed a road without a green light to tell them, you will not always have definite 100% scenario to proceed with.  Its always best judgement that must be used and some unknown factor that be of some risk.
   The correct appraisal is how well people react to risk, some ignore some increase it for the thrill of beating bad risk and so on.  Some of that behaviour will lead to injury.

Only when you combine poor risk taking with poor money keeping do you get a serious situation that can lead to poor gambling I think.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: MonsterV on July 28, 2019, 05:08:21 PM
It seems to me that it is wrong to call a gambler degenerate.  The fact is that very often the excitement is compared with drug addiction, when dependent people go to crimes in order to satisfy their desires.  If a gambler is likened to the same low people, then this name is quite applicable.  But only in such cases, and not in others.

Many people gamble just for fun and does occasionally so for them it does not apply according to me . Only those who just gamble for money and keep on playing till they earn or recover it might get addicted and this people could fall in this category .

As long as we can control ourselves while gambling, I think we will be fine. Never try to risk more than we can afford to lose is the best way to avoid addiction. Indeed, not all people who came into gambling is degenerate.

It can't, actually it's not impossible but it's very difficult to do. Many of the members here like that include me, when we lose we will continue to take risks to restore our losses. Well, just look at how many threads express their greed here and I'm sure there are still many of us who always take risks to recover losses.

Managing good money management may reduce addiction but will never eliminate our greed or emotional. It will always be there in every gamble that we do, it's just how we are able to control it to stay calm.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: finaleshot2016 on July 28, 2019, 05:39:20 PM
My life is luckily away from gambling because I'm afraid in the consequences that might came up to me when I became addicted to it. There's a lot of degenrates here who doesn't care about the causes and just thinking about their personal goals. When gambling, we always need control because controlling yourself to avoid addiction is like controlling your good future.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: Ryker1 on July 28, 2019, 05:49:35 PM
My life is luckily away from gambling because I'm afraid in the consequences that might came up to me when I became addicted to it. There's a lot of degenrates here who doesn't care about the causes and just thinking about their personal goals. When gambling, we always need control because controlling yourself to avoid addiction is like controlling your good future.
Well, if you gamble just for seeking profit and will make money then, that is not the right decisions. Controlling your self is just an easy way and we can gamble anything we want or something If we wanted to break our boredom and need something entertainment. Mindset is difficult to set if you are in addictive already.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: finaleshot2016 on July 28, 2019, 06:00:22 PM
My life is luckily away from gambling because I'm afraid in the consequences that might came up to me when I became addicted to it. There's a lot of degenrates here who doesn't care about the causes and just thinking about their personal goals. When gambling, we always need control because controlling yourself to avoid addiction is like controlling your good future.
Well, if you gamble just for seeking profit and will make money then, that is not the right decisions. Controlling your self is just an easy way and we can gamble anything we want or something If we wanted to break our boredom and need something entertainment. Mindset is difficult to set if you are in addictive already.

Actually, there's a lot of entertainment we can choose except gambling. If you really wanted to avoid being addicted and just want to entertain yourselves, you can do sports or other stuffs that will benefit you a good and healthy living right?

If I'll entertain myself, gambling is not included in the list.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: tippytoes on July 28, 2019, 06:03:37 PM
My life is luckily away from gambling because I'm afraid in the consequences that might came up to me when I became addicted to it. There's a lot of degenrates here who doesn't care about the causes and just thinking about their personal goals. When gambling, we always need control because controlling yourself to avoid addiction is like controlling your good future.
Well, if you gamble just for seeking profit and will make money then, that is not the right decisions. Controlling your self is just an easy way and we can gamble anything we want or something If we wanted to break our boredom and need something entertainment. Mindset is difficult to set if you are in addictive already.

Actually, there's a lot of entertainment we can choose except gambling. If you really wanted to avoid being addicted and just want to entertain yourselves, you can do sports or other stuffs that will benefit you a good and healthy living right?

If I'll entertain myself, gambling is not included in the list.

This is very right. Entertainment comes in different forms. And if you want not to be stressed brought by gambling activities, better choose a different form of entertainment like sports and other hobbies. It is all about what you choose in life.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: babysweetTiger0401 on July 28, 2019, 11:27:46 PM
I know my statement may sound pretty hostile on this part of the board, though I'm not talking about the person who will buy a superbowl box or makes a friendly bet with someone over one big game. I think the degenerates are the people sitting around gambling on every game they can possibly gamble on.

I have friends like this, people that will gamble on Mexican Womens Tennis if they can win (or most likely lose) some money on the game. It's a crushing addicition that we've normalized in our culture to make it seem like it's just apart of life. It shouldn't be, and children at a young age should be stopped from gambling until they know the horrible outcomes that gambling can cause. I support every effort by regulators to stem out the bad actors in the gambling field in order to stop children from being hooked on this.

I'd like one of you to change my mind, or at least make me think different about gambling. Because as of right now, I have a pretty negative view on it.

In the eyes of many gambling is a kind of bad habit by the individuals, but people had their own
perception in it. To others here it is one of their amusement that can give happiness to their, were they don't care if they loss
just for fun in short. But if you play or not it is your choice dude, just do it what you can afford to loss.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: michellee on July 29, 2019, 04:56:21 PM
My life is luckily away from gambling because I'm afraid in the consequences that might came up to me when I became addicted to it. There's a lot of degenrates here who doesn't care about the causes and just thinking about their personal goals. When gambling, we always need control because controlling yourself to avoid addiction is like controlling your good future.
Well, if you gamble just for seeking profit and will make money then, that is not the right decisions. Controlling your self is just an easy way and we can gamble anything we want or something If we wanted to break our boredom and need something entertainment. Mindset is difficult to set if you are in addictive already.

In the gambling game, without having control of yourself, you will not be able to keep your money because you will attract in the deeper of the gambling and you will lose that money. Having control for yourself will prevent you become addicted to gambling, but many people have lost the control because they only follow their instinct to continue playing gambling.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: joshy23 on July 29, 2019, 05:04:06 PM
My life is luckily away from gambling because I'm afraid in the consequences that might came up to me when I became addicted to it. There's a lot of degenrates here who doesn't care about the causes and just thinking about their personal goals. When gambling, we always need control because controlling yourself to avoid addiction is like controlling your good future.
Well, if you gamble just for seeking profit and will make money then, that is not the right decisions. Controlling your self is just an easy way and we can gamble anything we want or something If we wanted to break our boredom and need something entertainment. Mindset is difficult to set if you are in addictive already.
There's no clear views when you are already addicted it's better not to try than being too engaged to this activities, gambling is not a good source of funds but can be used to kill your boredom and find some enjoyable experiences, if you can afford to lose some money and you are not aggressive to chase your loses then you can play once in a while to be entertained.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: Botnake on July 30, 2019, 10:32:19 PM
We know the possibility already before we engage in gambling and mostly we never think that gambling is just for fun but of a serious game we play.
Addiction might catch us when we indulge in gambling and may control us in the end.
Knowing about these facts, it gives me some realizations and never been controlled by such addiction.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: robelneo on July 30, 2019, 10:46:35 PM
I see where you coming because you seem to know the horror of too much addiction to gambling, some countries already had rehabilitation for gamblers, not all of them are degenerates in mind, there are some people who really can't control being hooked on this, as much as there are people who are hooked into drugs and gaming.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: LogitechMouse on July 31, 2019, 05:55:07 AM
I have friends like this, people that will gamble on Mexican Womens Tennis if they can win (or most likely lose) some money on the game. It's a crushing addicition that we've normalized in our culture to make it seem like it's just apart of life. It shouldn't be, and children at a young age should be stopped from gambling until they know the horrible outcomes that gambling can cause. I support every effort by regulators to stem out the bad actors in the gambling field in order to stop children from being hooked on this.
Many gamblers can read what you have posted and some can change their mind but I know that there will be some of them who will not change their mind anymore. Its a disappointment for me that many are getting addicted into gambling but we can't blame them. Their perspective against gambling is different for some gamblers who are just gambling for fun. Maybe they will just change their mindset if they have no money anymore and feel regret in what they did.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: iamsheikhadil on August 28, 2019, 05:52:29 PM
If you are a religious person, gambling ruins your present life and afterlife. If you are an atheist, gambling ruins your only life.

I totally agree with OP. People justify gambling for many reasons. But they know that themselves how they are fooling themselves.

The satisfaction of earning money by doing hard work is totally wiped off by this shitty stuff called gambling addiction.

I've left gambling for a while, intitially it was tempting but now I value every dollar I earn and gain by working online.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: ethereumhunter on August 29, 2019, 10:56:42 AM
You can certainly play to have fun, but it all depends on the emotional state of a person, as well as on his character.  There are such people that even when they play a simple card game, their excitement is so strong that they are capable of inappropriate actions if something goes wrong with them.  And there is no interest, and even no cash bets, and this person is already becoming dangerous for his excitement.

That is why before you decide to play gambling, you need to ask yourself, can you control yourself in the gambling games? Because not all gamblers can do that thing, and that makes them lose all of the money, which is the biggest mistake they make. Having fun while we are losing all money is not worth it because we need to control the fun emotion so we can get out from gambling places without stress because losing the money.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: FlightyPouch on August 29, 2019, 11:11:08 AM
You can certainly play to have fun, but it all depends on the emotional state of a person, as well as on his character.  There are such people that even when they play a simple card game, their excitement is so strong that they are capable of inappropriate actions if something goes wrong with them.  And there is no interest, and even no cash bets, and this person is already becoming dangerous for his excitement.

You're missing something here. You can certainly have fun while gambling as long as you have the money to support that. It doesn't depend on the emotional state of that certain person, that depends on the person itself if he will be letting himself controlled by his emotions or not. I've been struggling to stop myself from gambling and I can tell you that it is so hard but the thing here is that it is not you vs. your addiction but there are a lot of people around you to help.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: Ayiranorea on August 29, 2019, 11:39:21 AM
This kind of activity need to be stopped, because early days of addiction will ruin their life and make them miss the teenage days which is the most important days. Mexico is already suffering from different economic and political issues, now this will once again make the country not to progress good competing the neighboring countries.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: shoreno on August 29, 2019, 11:28:50 PM
You can certainly play to have fun, but it all depends on the emotional state of a person, as well as on his character. 

You're missing something here. You can certainly have fun while gambling as long as you have the money to support that. It doesn't depend on the emotional state of that certain person, that depends on the person itself if he will be letting himself controlled by his emotions or not.

why pay when your only playing for fun ? there are many free to play gambling sites out therre ( literally free ) that you dont spend any fiat or cryptos but instead these kind of gambling are only using play money or in game chips that act as bets  . its okay to become emotional when your only playing for fun . you can emote all you want but it only becomes bad if your playing on a real gambling that involves real cryptos/fiats because this will dramatically affect your gameplay 


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: maydna on August 30, 2019, 04:23:59 AM
This kind of activity need to be stopped, because early days of addiction will ruin their life and make them miss the teenage days which is the most important days. Mexico is already suffering from different economic and political issues, now this will once again make the country not to progress good competing the neighboring countries.

So we need to prohibit younger people from staying away from gambling games and explaining to them that playing gambling will make their lives become dangerous. They would become addicted to gambling if they played for a long time and every day. Besides that, they will risk their money to lose in the games without any chance to recover the money.

If we can explain to them carefully, they will listen to us, and they will prevent themselves from entering gambling places even when they are connected to the internet. I am sure that younger people now are aware of the danger of gambling games and they can take care of themselves.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: arpon11 on August 30, 2019, 07:25:14 AM
You can certainly play to have fun, but it all depends on the emotional state of a person, as well as on his character.  There are such people that even when they play a simple card game, their excitement is so strong that they are capable of inappropriate actions if something goes wrong with them.  And there is no interest, and even no cash bets, and this person is already becoming dangerous for his excitement.

You're missing something here. You can certainly have fun while gambling as long as you have the money to support that. It doesn't depend on the emotional state of that certain person, that depends on the person itself if he will be letting himself controlled by his emotions or not. I've been struggling to stop myself from gambling and I can tell you that it is so hard but the thing here is that it is not you vs. your addiction but there are a lot of people around you to help.
People are addicting to gambling because it is all about greed. If you are not greedy you should know that you make money by doing something that is not losing to the opposite person. Gambling was done as a game of fun from beginning but now people thought that it is the most simple way to make money fast but remember that the gambling sites owners and your fellow gamblers are out to make the same money and as such whenever you are making money or winning someone is losing and when you are losing, someone is making money from it.


Title: Re: People who gamble are degenerates, change my mind.
Post by: TIDOVEE on September 01, 2019, 08:30:35 PM
gambling is a game that has both its negative and positive effect.the positive effect include your gain per playing time,the fun of the moment, socialization, psychological development on taking risk and letting go at losses(accepting ones fate).the negative aspect is loser's emotional breakdown, it leads to violence, addiction could be dangerous. i only think it should be controlled especially among immatured people.