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March 25, 2019, 05:15:16 PM
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What you describe is indeed blackmail.
"If you do/don't do <thing>, I will <stuff>" is the blackmail formula.
I'm not an expert on blackmail, but I'm pretty sure the above in certain contexts could be considered a warning instead of blackmail.  If a police officer tells you to stop speeding, or else you're going to suffer the consequences, that's a warning.  He isn't looking to get something out of the transaction personally--and I think that's a key component of blackmail/extortion.

If someone sends a PM to a member on bitcointalk stating that if they don't stop spamming in a thread that they're going to get reported/negged, I would see that more as a chance to correct behavior before the offending party suffers some consequences.  It isn't threatening to expose someone in exchange for money/favors/whatever, which is usually what blackmail is.

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March 25, 2019, 05:18:58 PM
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What you describe is indeed blackmail.
"If you do/don't do <thing>, I will <stuff>" is the blackmail formula.
I'm not an expert on blackmail, but I'm pretty sure the above in certain contexts could be considered a warning instead of blackmail.  If a police officer tells you to stop speeding, or else you're going to suffer the consequences, that's a warning.  He isn't looking to get something out of the transaction personally--and I think that's a key component of blackmail/extortion.

If someone sends a PM to a member on bitcointalk stating that if they don't stop spamming in a thread that they're going to get reported/negged, I would see that more as a chance to correct behavior before the offending party suffers some consequences.  It isn't threatening to expose someone in exchange for money/favors/whatever, which is usually what blackmail is.
But what will happen the receiver of those warning PM report it to admin?

I am afraid to send PM to anyone even when found spamming because I saw that this can leads to temporary ban for PM spamming.

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March 25, 2019, 07:01:08 PM
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What you describe is indeed blackmail.
"If you do/don't do <thing>, I will <stuff>" is the blackmail formula.
I'm not an expert on blackmail, but I'm pretty sure the above in certain contexts could be considered a warning instead of blackmail.  If a police officer tells you to stop speeding, or else you're going to suffer the consequences, that's a warning.  He isn't looking to get something out of the transaction personally--and I think that's a key component of blackmail/extortion.

If someone sends a PM to a member on bitcointalk stating that if they don't stop spamming in a thread that they're going to get reported/negged, I would see that more as a chance to correct behavior before the offending party suffers some consequences.  It isn't threatening to expose someone in exchange for money/favors/whatever, which is usually what blackmail is.
blackmail is when you are asking for something, usually money, that they do not have a legitimate claim to/that they are not entitled to.

For example:
Asking someone to pay a valid debt owed and saying nonpayment will result in a lawsuit for the debt is not extortion.

Asking someone to pay $5000 when there is no financial relationship (purchased or otherwise), or else they will call the police on them is extortion because they don’t have any claim to the $5000

You can read this for more information about extortion.

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March 25, 2019, 07:34:57 PM
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Asking someone to pay a valid debt owed and saying nonpayment will result in a lawsuit for the debt is not extortion.

Yes, if such an act was considered blackmail aka extortion, I would have been jailed long ago. However, I'm sure that many of the debtors that I have dealt with over the years probably think that I ought to be in jail for living up to my promise when they did not pay. Cheesy

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March 25, 2019, 07:37:17 PM
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Probably in such case the style and quality of comments will change and it may be a sign that the profile has a new user.
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March 29, 2019, 11:13:03 AM
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Probably in such case the style and quality of comments will change and it may be a sign that the profile has a new user.

I agree this is one of the thing that could certainly indicate a change of ownership but alone may not be conclusive proof either way.


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