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November 06, 2019, 02:31:45 AM
Last edit: November 06, 2019, 12:46:12 PM by game-protect
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xtraelx deliberately misleads the public with claiming that this email



is a WRITTEN CONTRACT! Roll Eyes

UK law is similar to the law in most commonwealth countries.

For contracts to be legally binding, five essential elements must be present. There must be:

1) An offer;
2) Acceptance of the offer;
3) Consideration (i.e., some form of payment);
4) An intention to be legally bound by the contract; and
5) Certainty as to what the parties have agreed.

https://businessadvice.co.uk/business-development/business-planning/are-emails-legally-binding/[/quote]

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3) Consideration (i.e., some form of payment);
Does not exist!

Game Protect only takes donations without any legally binding agreement.

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https://game-protect.com/donate/

If you appreciate our worldwide only real and unbiased online gaming consumer protection service, your donation is welcome!

Real world legal aspects: Donations are given without return consideration.


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4) An intention to be legally bound by the contract
Does not exist!

Game Protect does not make contracts and therefore can not intent to be legally bound by such! Roll Eyes

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November 06, 2019, 02:37:43 AM
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Calling it a donation DOESN'T MEAN it's not some form of consideration LMAO.

You calling it a donation is absolutely utter BS. It's not a donation, it's a transaction considering you're providing something in return, hence that screenshot is apart of a written contract.

http://archive.is/AX4Ev


Edit: btw, you posting "Donations are given without return consideration." literally proves our point if you knew how to read legalities. What that says is that donations are given without expectations of a return. When you email your clients you are suggesting you will be providing a service in exchange for their quote on quote "donation". HENCE, by that definition, what you are taking from them isn't a donation (using your own quote from wikipedia)

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November 06, 2019, 12:52:47 PM
Last edit: November 06, 2019, 01:12:40 PM by game-protect
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Calling it a donation DOESN'T MEAN it's not some form of consideration LMAO.
It is not called a donation, it is a donation in writing! Cheesy

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November 06, 2019, 02:07:36 PM
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Calling it a donation DOESN'T MEAN it's not some form of consideration LMAO.
It is not called a donation, it is a donation in writing! Cheesy

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https://game-protect.com/donate/

If you appreciate our worldwide only real and unbiased online gaming consumer protection service, your donation is welcome!

but it seems to me that in this case:

This is what he promised:


you promised to give back the money, that was no donation so don't come up with meaningless arguments. be honest person and do what you promised

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November 06, 2019, 02:13:04 PM
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Game Protect already refunded the 210€:

h4ns to GP 20,000€ current compensation demand for damages caused by his public defamation campaign - GP to h4ns 210€ = h4ns to GP 19,790€ Smiley

Defamation



Game-Protect.com did not refund my money and stopped replying to my emails

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h4ns alleges: game-protect violated a written contract, resulting in damages, in the specific act referenced here. game-protect did not make the victims of this act roughly whole, AND it is not the case that all of the victims forgave the act. It is not grossly inaccurate to say that the act occurred around July 2019. No previously-created flag covers this same act, unless the flag was created with inaccurate data preventing its acceptance.

You are the one who is hiding behind anonymity and you are the one who is threatening and blackmailing other people.

Extortion

I want to give him a chance to make a statement on this. If he doesn't reply or refund my money I will red-flag him at a later point. Thanks for your advice.

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November 06, 2019, 03:57:34 PM
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Game Protect already refunded the 210€:

h4ns to GP 20,000€ current compensation demand for damages caused by his public defamation campaign - GP to h4ns 210€ = h4ns to GP 19,790€ Smiley

Defamation



Game-Protect.com did not refund my money and stopped replying to my emails

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h4ns alleges: game-protect violated a written contract, resulting in damages, in the specific act referenced here. game-protect did not make the victims of this act roughly whole, AND it is not the case that all of the victims forgave the act. It is not grossly inaccurate to say that the act occurred around July 2019. No previously-created flag covers this same act, unless the flag was created with inaccurate data preventing its acceptance.

You are the one who is hiding behind anonymity and you are the one who is threatening and blackmailing other people.

Extortion

I want to give him a chance to make a statement on this. If he doesn't reply or refund my money I will red-flag him at a later point. Thanks for your advice.

Do I need to reference you to a specific song from a specific Youtuber?

"Still not defamation"

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November 07, 2019, 09:55:09 AM
Last edit: November 07, 2019, 10:07:09 AM by game-protect
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Game Protect,

I am really sorry to see that's how you choose to resolve a small case with a customer of yours, regardless of who's right or wrong here, this in my opinion is not a way to conduct business. We are all human beings and you should have a certain level of leeway with other customers - regardless of who's right or wrong. If you insist on having no compromise then it shows a bad faith, I'm 100% against it.
Over 100,000€ damage caused by h4ns's false and misleading public defamation campaign towards Game Protect is a small case?

Only in this case the potential damage is 7 BTC = 60,000€!!!

If you have proof of your win, then you can engage the foundation / law firm cooperating with Game Protect.

We are specialized for Curacao online casinos and successfully enforced several claims.

Game Protect also warns about the MegaDice scam since 2017 MegaDice scam, 500+ Bitcoins defrauded and disappeared!

I am sorry, but the trust rating of your account is not the best.

And there are more online casino victims with huge claims who said they read on bitcointalk.org that Game Protect is a scammer!

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November 07, 2019, 07:54:34 PM
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but you have stated multiple times that you only take ‘donations’...
How would there be any damages calculated if you only take donations? Either you are providing a service for a fee or you are taking donations. You can’t use both arguments for a defense against a scam you committed. Or are you just too mentally ill to understand that?
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November 07, 2019, 08:36:35 PM
Last edit: November 09, 2019, 09:39:28 PM by mprep
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You can’t use both arguments for a defense against a scam you committed.
Who did I scam and how and at what day?


Or are you just too mentally ill to understand that?
You are obviously too mentally ill and or brain dead to understand what Game Protect does! Roll Eyes

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How can I qualify?

1) Simply register your betting or gambling account with any Qualify free operator.

2) If you ignored the option 1) and got scammed, then you still have the following enforcement options:

a) Collection proceeding on a 65:35 no cure no pay basis, if the claim is at least around 5,000 Euro or

b) Donate 5% of your claim (minimum 100 Euro) in advance or

c) Register with any Qualify free operator and accumulate affiliate commission worth 5% of your claim.

https://game-protect.com/



After your brain substantiated that Game Protect is a scam / show, would not you withdraw your 7 pending enforcement cases?

(September 3rd) My suspicion substantiated when he asked me to borrow him €10. For the second time.

Or would you want Game Protect continue to enforce your 7 claims towards sportsbooks?

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November 09, 2019, 12:53:46 AM
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After your brain substantiated that Game Protect is a scam / show, would not you withdraw your 7 pending enforcement cases?
Or would you want Game Protect continue to enforce your 7 claims towards sportsbooks?

Stay clear of Game-Protect. It is not often that I truly dislike someone, but Game-Protect is one of them. He played multiple times at betbit.com and then threatened to go to the UK gambling commission if we did not pay him back his winnings. He did not have a gambling issue, he was predatory. He knowingly played with the idea he would claim any losses.

What kind of person does this? I'll tell you. Some would call that a scum-bag move, but I think it is infinetly worse. He literally steals from the brand. There are programmers, workers who depend on the business aspect of a gaming operation. Most importantly, players often win, and sometimes win very big. All of these things have to be taken into consideration.

Just seeing his name on a thread gets me riled up.

@Game-Protect Please send PM me your name and address.

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@Game-Protect
Because you said so in your email. You tried to extort us.

Facts: You deposited and played. If you would have won you kept the winnings. If you lose then you claim the losses based on regional jurisdictions. That is called "bad faith". Your business model is set up to be a parasite on gaming services. We would never concede to these extortion attempts.

In contrast, we strive to protect players by being responsible. We have set up an extensive self-exclusion system to prevent players from wagering outside of what they would consider entertainment. I challenge you to try to convince anyone on our staff to remove your self-exclusion settings. It would not happen, no matter how big of player you are.

Do you do what you do for yourself or for players? From reading above it seems that you do it for the 5% upfront fees. Also, screen your cases to make sure that the brands are at fault based on ethical behavior and not regional jurisdictions. I am sure there would be plenty of work out there for you if you were ethical yourself. You might even find brands like our supporting that type of business model. You could make players' lives better, protect against rogue brands and make a living with no one hating you. I'd say do that, as opposed to what you are doing now, which is blatantly predatory.v Predatory on gaming brands and predatory against players themselves.

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November 09, 2019, 02:57:13 PM
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Because you said so in your email. You tried to extort us.

Facts: You deposited and played. If you would have won you kept the winnings. If you lose then you claim the losses based on regional jurisdictions. That is called "bad faith". Your business model is set up to be a parasite on gaming services. We would never concede to these extortion attempts.

In contrast, we strive to protect players by being responsible. We have set up an extensive self-exclusion system to prevent players from wagering outside of what they would consider entertainment. I challenge you to try to convince anyone on our staff to remove your self-exclusion settings. It would not happen, no matter how big of player you are.

Do you do what you do for yourself or for players? From reading above it seems that you do it for the 5% upfront fees. Also, screen your cases to make sure that the brands are at fault based on ethical behavior and not regional jurisdictions. I am sure there would be plenty of work out there for you if you were ethical yourself. You might even find brands like our supporting that type of business model. You could make players' lives better, protect against rogue brands and make a living with no one hating you. I'd say do that, as opposed to what you are doing now, which is blatantly predatory.v Predatory on gaming brands and predatory against players themselves.
How do you know that the email is from Game Protect?

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Those "donations" people make. Do you gamble with those funds ?

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Game Protect,

I have removed my positive feedback, I am still thankful for your help in the past but I wish you best of luck with your future endeavors, hopefully you'd find better ones moving forward, I am out of any discussion about GP, unless something is extremely necessary but otherwise I am simply not going to get involved and wishing everyone success with their future endeavors.


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Because you said so in your email. You tried to extort us.

Facts: You deposited and played. If you would have won you kept the winnings. If you lose then you claim the losses based on regional jurisdictions. That is called "bad faith". Your business model is set up to be a parasite on gaming services. We would never concede to these extortion attempts.

In contrast, we strive to protect players by being responsible. We have set up an extensive self-exclusion system to prevent players from wagering outside of what they would consider entertainment. I challenge you to try to convince anyone on our staff to remove your self-exclusion settings. It would not happen, no matter how big of player you are.

Do you do what you do for yourself or for players? From reading above it seems that you do it for the 5% upfront fees. Also, screen your cases to make sure that the brands are at fault based on ethical behavior and not regional jurisdictions. I am sure there would be plenty of work out there for you if you were ethical yourself. You might even find brands like our supporting that type of business model. You could make players' lives better, protect against rogue brands and make a living with no one hating you. I'd say do that, as opposed to what you are doing now, which is blatantly predatory.v Predatory on gaming brands and predatory against players themselves.

More details please.  Post the emails with address partially blocked.  How much did he deposit, when , what games did he play?

Any info may be helpful in helping in preventing him from future scams.

If he did this to your site, he probably has done it to others as well, and will do it to more in the future.
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November 10, 2019, 04:34:22 AM
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How do you know that the email is from Game Protect?

I've gone to your website. I was surprised to see so many legitimate players who need help. These are players with a real legitimate need for help. It seems that if you just changed the predatory nature of your model to one of player service you would have lots of fans and be renumerated accordingly. You could build a community based on ethics and not jurisdictional loop-holes. It's not too late to be of service to your fellow man.

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November 10, 2019, 09:55:42 PM
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Hmm "extortion" and "Game-Protect"... I think I have read this obvious hypothesis before? There is a strong probability that GP extorts her victims via trolling casino ANN, her signature, email, article, and her Curacao license list.

Any more of GP extortion victims want to raise voice?

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November 12, 2019, 02:57:12 PM
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Because you said so in your email. You tried to extort us.

Facts: You deposited and played. If you would have won you kept the winnings. If you lose then you claim the losses based on regional jurisdictions. That is called "bad faith". Your business model is set up to be a parasite on gaming services. We would never concede to these extortion attempts.

In contrast, we strive to protect players by being responsible. We have set up an extensive self-exclusion system to prevent players from wagering outside of what they would consider entertainment. I challenge you to try to convince anyone on our staff to remove your self-exclusion settings. It would not happen, no matter how big of player you are.

Do you do what you do for yourself or for players? From reading above it seems that you do it for the 5% upfront fees. Also, screen your cases to make sure that the brands are at fault based on ethical behavior and not regional jurisdictions. I am sure there would be plenty of work out there for you if you were ethical yourself. You might even find brands like our supporting that type of business model. You could make players' lives better, protect against rogue brands and make a living with no one hating you. I'd say do that, as opposed to what you are doing now, which is blatantly predatory.v Predatory on gaming brands and predatory against players themselves.
Please show the email?

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He did use a lawyer with my case but the case did not take too long to be settled.
Are you 100% sure?  Like, did you actually speak to or communicate with the lawyer?
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My thoughts exactly. I have an impression that what Game-Protect is doing when he is "helping" someone to get their money back, is spamming the casino with complaints, threats etc., and in the end some of them give up and pay.

We have a lot of such "services" where I live. They propose their clients "to resolve the issue" for a small percentage in return. But what their clients don't realize is that they could resolve the issue by themselves just as well, without  the need to pay anything to anyone.

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November 14, 2019, 03:09:05 AM
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My thoughts exactly. I have an impression that what Game-Protect is doing when he is "helping" someone to get their money back, is spamming the casino with complaints, threats etc., and in the end some of them give up and pay.

We have a lot of such "services" where I live. They propose their clients "to resolve the issue" for a small percentage in return. But what their clients don't realize is that they could resolve the issue by themselves just as well, without  the need to pay anything to anyone.

In my case I wasn't able to resolve the issue by myself and Game Protect helped me get compensated.

HOWEVER,

The fact that Game Protect is not issuing a refund, as promised, is something I don't tolerate neither.

In my opinion a business needs to be straightforward with its customers, and when there is a lack of transparency or breach of trust - then that raises a red flag.

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