Bitcoin Forum
May 23, 2024, 10:06:00 AM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 27.0 [Torrent]
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register More  
Pages: « 1 2 3 4 5 6 [7] 8 9 10 11 12 13 »  All
  Print  
Author Topic: Why so many people say "Muslims are terrorists" Should we say that?  (Read 1678 times)
semobo
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 1498
Merit: 146


View Profile
April 10, 2019, 08:51:22 PM
 #121

^ As per Quran Jesus also one of the Prophet sent by Allah?

Am not sure this is right. Huh

If Quaran says muslims need to be violent then Jesus also did the same thing?
TECSHARE
In memoriam
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3318
Merit: 1958


First Exclusion Ever


View Profile WWW
April 11, 2019, 03:13:04 AM
 #122

FYI tecshare calls anything he thinks is bad "communism" and you should read his posts with his definition in mind. genocide=communism transgender=communism climate change=communism atheism=communism etc etc

While your opinion is true that just because other Muslims are terrorists doesn't make all Muslims to be terrorists but we can't blame people from the trauma they're experiencing because of what other Muslims are doing. It is like putting one spoiled tomato in a a basket full of good tomatoes spoil them all. It is their Muslim brothers that are destroying the reputations of Muslims in general and causing hatred to the people.
This is absolutely a bigoted double standard.  You are allowing a few muslims to destroy the reputation of islam but have not let the christian terrorists destroy the reputation of christianity.  

In my country, the USA, most terrorists are Christian yet people fear muslims because they are "foreign" and they don't get fair representation in the media.  Our media only shows news stories from muslim countries when they are related to war or terror.   Our TV shows and movies mostly cast muslims into terror-related roles.  This has had a dehumanizing affect on muslims. TV will never tell the truth.

I recommend you travel to some muslim countries and you will actually find them to be much more friendly and hospitable than western countries.  Travel to Iran, Pakistan, and Indonesia.  These are among the largest muslim countries in the world and the friendliest, most hospitable counties I have ever been but mentioning them strikes fear into the heart of most Americans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWeWxl7ruGE

That's because the Hegelian dialectic, which Communism is based upon, can be applied to literally anything to subvert any goal, group, or cause using overt goals to serve ulterior motives. I know to simple people like you it sounds like I am just saying everything is Communism, but that is because you don't want to critically examine anything I present, so your brain finds easy ways to dismiss any information I put in front of you that challenges your belief system.

Regarding the rest of your horse shit, you don't have any evidence to support your assertion that "most terrorists are Christian", this is just some shit simple minded trendy lefties like you like to run around telling each other to justify your own bigotry while you defend an ACTUAL supremacist political ideology in the name of fighting racism. Your lies literally cost people their lives. Nothing to worry though, it was just "neck wounds".


Yet, he fails to see socialist and communist ideas in Christianity.  The way I see it, Jesus character was the first socialist.

It is funny to see him draw is half-ass conclusions. He thinks disbelief in the supernatural is somehow related to the economic system,
and if you are on the left of the political spectrum, you are mentally ill.

The guy is a twit.  Don't take him too seriously.

Sorry, but Christianity is not based on Socialism or Communism regardless of your mental gymnastics to try to shoehorn that one in there. Communism is not only an economic system, but a political ideology as well. Communism seeks to crush all religion because it is antithetical to its goals, this doesn't mean if you are atheist you some how automatically support Communism. Of course you know this, but you desperately need to find a way to take pot shots at anyone who dares question your religion of atheism. Your behavior is indistinguishable from any other form of religious supremacy, but you are far too convinced of your own superiority to notice this.


af_newbie
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2688
Merit: 1468



View Profile WWW
April 11, 2019, 11:43:08 AM
 #123

FYI tecshare calls anything he thinks is bad "communism" and you should read his posts with his definition in mind. genocide=communism transgender=communism climate change=communism atheism=communism etc etc

While your opinion is true that just because other Muslims are terrorists doesn't make all Muslims to be terrorists but we can't blame people from the trauma they're experiencing because of what other Muslims are doing. It is like putting one spoiled tomato in a a basket full of good tomatoes spoil them all. It is their Muslim brothers that are destroying the reputations of Muslims in general and causing hatred to the people.
This is absolutely a bigoted double standard.  You are allowing a few muslims to destroy the reputation of islam but have not let the christian terrorists destroy the reputation of christianity.  

In my country, the USA, most terrorists are Christian yet people fear muslims because they are "foreign" and they don't get fair representation in the media.  Our media only shows news stories from muslim countries when they are related to war or terror.   Our TV shows and movies mostly cast muslims into terror-related roles.  This has had a dehumanizing affect on muslims. TV will never tell the truth.

I recommend you travel to some muslim countries and you will actually find them to be much more friendly and hospitable than western countries.  Travel to Iran, Pakistan, and Indonesia.  These are among the largest muslim countries in the world and the friendliest, most hospitable counties I have ever been but mentioning them strikes fear into the heart of most Americans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWeWxl7ruGE

That's because the Hegelian dialectic, which Communism is based upon, can be applied to literally anything to subvert any goal, group, or cause using overt goals to serve ulterior motives. I know to simple people like you it sounds like I am just saying everything is Communism, but that is because you don't want to critically examine anything I present, so your brain finds easy ways to dismiss any information I put in front of you that challenges your belief system.

Regarding the rest of your horse shit, you don't have any evidence to support your assertion that "most terrorists are Christian", this is just some shit simple minded trendy lefties like you like to run around telling each other to justify your own bigotry while you defend an ACTUAL supremacist political ideology in the name of fighting racism. Your lies literally cost people their lives. Nothing to worry though, it was just "neck wounds".


Yet, he fails to see socialist and communist ideas in Christianity.  The way I see it, Jesus character was the first socialist.

It is funny to see him draw is half-ass conclusions. He thinks disbelief in the supernatural is somehow related to the economic system,
and if you are on the left of the political spectrum, you are mentally ill.

The guy is a twit.  Don't take him too seriously.

Sorry, but Christianity is not based on Socialism or Communism regardless of your mental gymnastics to try to shoehorn that one in there. Communism is not only an economic system, but a political ideology as well. Communism seeks to crush all religion because it is antithetical to its goals, this doesn't mean if you are atheist you some how automatically support Communism. Of course you know this, but you desperately need to find a way to take pot shots at anyone who dares question your religion of atheism. Your behavior is indistinguishable from any other form of religious supremacy, but you are far too convinced of your own superiority to notice this.

What you have shown with your last post is you do not even know your own Christian mythology.  Socialist doctrine is based on the Christian ideology.  You got this backwards.

Do you even know what my position is?

Are you sure you questioned the atheist position?  Where are your arguments to prove that the supernatural exists?  Here is your chance to win the Nobel Prize.  Let's go.

You are an opinionated, Christian Anarchist who disagrees with everything he sees or hears.  You are just an automaton with no original critical thinking skills, IMHO.

Dedenfahry
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 140
Merit: 0


View Profile
April 11, 2019, 12:02:24 PM
 #124

Dalam ajaran islam tidak di ajarkan seseorang menjadi teroris, islam mengajarkan sopansantun, kasih sayang daritadinya pemukul menjadi perangkul, munkin ini adalah sebagian kelompok yg benci terhadap islam.
Says tidak setuju islam dikatakan agama teroris.
Artemis3
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2030
Merit: 1563


CLEAN non GPL infringing code made in Rust lang


View Profile WWW
April 11, 2019, 01:53:10 PM
 #125

Is it any statement on the Quaran states that,if someone won't agree to convert into Islams they have to excecute them?
Then why all those arabic countries have non muslim citizens.

https://quran.com/9/5
"And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful."

Some Muslims are good DESPITE their religion and will not kill another human being regardless of what ALLAH (or any other imaginary God) 'said' in the HOLY book.

Hmm this reminds me of, i don't know, Moses? Then you may join Jews, Christians and Muslims together because they are all descendants from Abraham, and they all abhorred polytheism (that was the era when humanity went from poly- to mono-theism). If you read the bible you will find many passages like that... By no accident Islam pays respect to the likes of Jesus and the prophets from Judaism...

"In the name of religion" many atrocities have been committed in the past, but (genuine) religion is not about committing atrocities...

I will cite these, just for reference:

Those who act kindly in this world will have kindness.
1.Islam. Qur'an 39.10

God enjoins justice, kindness, and charity to one's kindred, and forbids indecency, abomination, and oppression. He admonishes you so that you may take heed.
6.Islam. Qur'an 16.90

Treat people in such a way and live amongst them in such a manner that if you die they will weep over you; alive they crave for your company.
10.Islam (Shiite). Nahjul Balagha, Saying 9

Anas and 'Abdullah reported God's Messenger as saying, "All [human] creatures are God's children, and those dearest to God are those who treat His children kindly."
19.Islam. Hadith of Baihaqi

A man once asked the Prophet what was the best thing in Islam, and the latter replied, "It is to feed the hungry and to give the greeting of peace both to those one knows and to those one does not know."
21.Islam. Hadith of Bukhari

The best deed of a great man is to forgive and forget.
2.Islam (Shiite). Nahjul Balagha, Saying 201

If you efface and overlook and forgive, then lo! God is forgiving, merciful.
4.Islam. Qur'an 64.14

Moses son of Imran said, "My Lord, who is the greatest of Thy servants in Thy estimation?" and received the reply, "The one who forgives when he is in a position of power."
11.Islam. Hadith of Baihaqi

Better and more rewarding is God's reward to those who believe and put their trust in Him: who avoid gross sins and indecencies and, when angered, are willing to forgive... Let evil be rewarded by like evil, but he who forgives and seeks reconciliation shall be rewarded by God. He does not love the wrongdoers.... True constancy lies in forgiveness and patient forbearance.
12.Islam. Qur'an 42.36-43

It may be that God will ordain love between you and those whom you hold as enemies. For God has power over all things; and God is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
8.Islam. Qur'an 60.7

The good deed and the evil deed are not alike. Repel the evil deed with one which is better, then lo!, he between whom and you there was enmity shall become as though he were a bosom friend.
But none is granted it save those who are steadfast, and none is granted it save a person of great good fortune.
16.Islam. Qur'an 41.34-35

According to Anas, after the Messenger of God said, "Help your brother whether he is oppressor or oppressed," Anas replied to him, "O Messenger of God, a man who is oppressed I am ready to help, but how does one help an oppressor?" "By hindering him doing wrong," he said.
20.Islam. Hadith of Bukhari

There is a lot more. Judging an entire religion from ignorance only leads to hatred. Perhaps the problem lies elsewhere...
Also think from a historic viewpoint. What was around by the time the religion was founded? And what were the customs and culture it replaced?

██████
███████
███████
████████
BRAIINS OS+|AUTOTUNING
MINING FIRMWARE
|
Increase hashrate on your Bitcoin ASICs,
improve efficiency as much as 25%, and
get 0% pool fees on Braiins Pool
BADecker
Legendary
*
Online Online

Activity: 3794
Merit: 1373


View Profile
April 11, 2019, 04:03:39 PM
 #126

Is it any statement on the Quaran states that,if someone won't agree to convert into Islams they have to excecute them?
Then why all those arabic countries have non muslim citizens.

https://quran.com/9/5
"And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful."

Some Muslims are good DESPITE their religion and will not kill another human being regardless of what ALLAH (or any other imaginary God) 'said' in the HOLY book.

Hmm this reminds me of, i don't know, Moses? Then you may join Jews, Christians and Muslims together because they are all descendants from Abraham, and they all abhorred polytheism (that was the era when humanity went from poly- to mono-theism). If you read the bible you will find many passages like that... By no accident Islam pays respect to the likes of Jesus and the prophets from Judaism...

"In the name of religion" many atrocities have been committed in the past, but (genuine) religion is not about committing atrocities...

I will cite these, just for reference:

Those who act kindly in this world will have kindness.
1.Islam. Qur'an 39.10

God enjoins justice, kindness, and charity to one's kindred, and forbids indecency, abomination, and oppression. He admonishes you so that you may take heed.
6.Islam. Qur'an 16.90

Treat people in such a way and live amongst them in such a manner that if you die they will weep over you; alive they crave for your company.
10.Islam (Shiite). Nahjul Balagha, Saying 9

Anas and 'Abdullah reported God's Messenger as saying, "All [human] creatures are God's children, and those dearest to God are those who treat His children kindly."
19.Islam. Hadith of Baihaqi

A man once asked the Prophet what was the best thing in Islam, and the latter replied, "It is to feed the hungry and to give the greeting of peace both to those one knows and to those one does not know."
21.Islam. Hadith of Bukhari

The best deed of a great man is to forgive and forget.
2.Islam (Shiite). Nahjul Balagha, Saying 201

If you efface and overlook and forgive, then lo! God is forgiving, merciful.
4.Islam. Qur'an 64.14

Moses son of Imran said, "My Lord, who is the greatest of Thy servants in Thy estimation?" and received the reply, "The one who forgives when he is in a position of power."
11.Islam. Hadith of Baihaqi

Better and more rewarding is God's reward to those who believe and put their trust in Him: who avoid gross sins and indecencies and, when angered, are willing to forgive... Let evil be rewarded by like evil, but he who forgives and seeks reconciliation shall be rewarded by God. He does not love the wrongdoers.... True constancy lies in forgiveness and patient forbearance.
12.Islam. Qur'an 42.36-43

It may be that God will ordain love between you and those whom you hold as enemies. For God has power over all things; and God is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
8.Islam. Qur'an 60.7

The good deed and the evil deed are not alike. Repel the evil deed with one which is better, then lo!, he between whom and you there was enmity shall become as though he were a bosom friend.
But none is granted it save those who are steadfast, and none is granted it save a person of great good fortune.
16.Islam. Qur'an 41.34-35

According to Anas, after the Messenger of God said, "Help your brother whether he is oppressor or oppressed," Anas replied to him, "O Messenger of God, a man who is oppressed I am ready to help, but how does one help an oppressor?" "By hindering him doing wrong," he said.
20.Islam. Hadith of Bukhari

There is a lot more. Judging an entire religion from ignorance only leads to hatred. Perhaps the problem lies elsewhere...
Also think from a historic viewpoint. What was around by the time the religion was founded? And what were the customs and culture it replaced?

Since there are all kinds of opposite sayings in Islam - http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm - we can see that when Muslims use the above posted goodness, they are really using it only with other Muslims. But when they use the things at my link, they are using them against non-Muslims, because it says that they are supposed to deceive other people who are not Muslims. So the above post is simply part of the deception Muslims are supposed to use on non-Muslims. And they are doing it by posting them the way they do.

Cool

Cure your cancer at home. Ivermectin, fenbendazole, methylene blue, and hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) are chief among parasite drugs. Find out that all disease is based in parasites or pollution, and what you can easily do about it - https://www.huldaclark.com/.
TECSHARE
In memoriam
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3318
Merit: 1958


First Exclusion Ever


View Profile WWW
April 11, 2019, 04:45:20 PM
 #127

In case anyone is wondering..
Dalam ajaran islam tidak di ajarkan seseorang menjadi teroris, islam mengajarkan sopansantun, kasih sayang daritadinya pemukul menjadi perangkul, munkin ini adalah sebagian kelompok yg benci terhadap islam.
Says tidak setuju islam dikatakan agama teroris.

Google translated from Indonesian: "In Islamic teachings not taught by someone to be a terrorist, Islam teaches sopansantun, affection from being a hitter becomes a hijacker, but this is probably a group that hates Islam. Says do not agree that Islam is said to be a terrorist religion."

What you have shown with your last post is you do not even know your own Christian mythology.  Socialist doctrine is based on the Christian ideology.  You got this backwards.

Do you even know what my position is?

Are you sure you questioned the atheist position?  Where are your arguments to prove that the supernatural exists?  Here is your chance to win the Nobel Prize.  Let's go.

You are an opinionated, Christian Anarchist who disagrees with everything he sees or hears.  You are just an automaton with no original critical thinking skills, IMHO.

No, I am pretty sure I do know quite a bit about Christian mythology, but I would love to see you source the information that you think proves Socialism/Communism was based upon it. There is actually a lot of evidence however Communism was at least partially based upon the Talmud, not just because of a lot of overlapping ideologies, but because of Karl Marx's lineage from a long line of rabbis as well as a few other things related to The Bolshevik Revolution.

You have made your position as a holier than thou edgy boi atheist pretty clear so, I don't know why I wouldn't know your position at this point. Do you even know my position? You have no problem calling me a Christian Anarchist, when I never said anything of the sort. Frankly I think Anarchists are short sighted people who are usually just Socialists and Communists anyway, but they don't know enough about either of those systems to know any better, they just think Anarchism sounds more edgy and they have a cool logo which makes a great patch to put next to their Black Flag or Misfits patches.

Again, you seem to be fixated on wanting to discuss the validity of belief, as I already stated, I consider the debate of the validity of having religious beliefs themselves one way or the other to be an asinine task, also one that is not the subject of this thread, so take it to the atheism thread edgy boi.
af_newbie
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2688
Merit: 1468



View Profile WWW
April 11, 2019, 05:54:25 PM
 #128

In case anyone is wondering..
Dalam ajaran islam tidak di ajarkan seseorang menjadi teroris, islam mengajarkan sopansantun, kasih sayang daritadinya pemukul menjadi perangkul, munkin ini adalah sebagian kelompok yg benci terhadap islam.
Says tidak setuju islam dikatakan agama teroris.

Google translated from Indonesian: "In Islamic teachings not taught by someone to be a terrorist, Islam teaches sopansantun, affection from being a hitter becomes a hijacker, but this is probably a group that hates Islam. Says do not agree that Islam is said to be a terrorist religion."

What you have shown with your last post is you do not even know your own Christian mythology.  Socialist doctrine is based on the Christian ideology.  You got this backwards.

Do you even know what my position is?

Are you sure you questioned the atheist position?  Where are your arguments to prove that the supernatural exists?  Here is your chance to win the Nobel Prize.  Let's go.

You are an opinionated, Christian Anarchist who disagrees with everything he sees or hears.  You are just an automaton with no original critical thinking skills, IMHO.

No, I am pretty sure I do know quite a bit about Christian mythology, but I would love to see you source the information that you think proves Socialism/Communism was based upon it. There is actually a lot of evidence however Communism was at least partially based upon the Talmud, not just because of a lot of overlapping ideologies, but because of Karl Marx's lineage from a long line of rabbis as well as a few other things related to The Bolshevik Revolution.

You have made your position as a holier than thou edgy boi atheist pretty clear so, I don't know why I wouldn't know your position at this point. Do you even know my position? You have no problem calling me a Christian Anarchist, when I never said anything of the sort. Frankly I think Anarchists are short sighted people who are usually just Socialists and Communists anyway, but they don't know enough about either of those systems to know any better, they just think Anarchism sounds more edgy and they have a cool logo which makes a great patch to put next to their Black Flag or Misfits patches.

Again, you seem to be fixated on wanting to discuss the validity of belief, as I already stated, I consider the debate of the validity of having religious beliefs themselves one way or the other to be an asinine task, also one that is not the subject of this thread, so take it to the atheism thread edgy boi.


Now I know you did not personally read the Bible.  The source is the fucking Bible.

It is all about "we are all equal in the eyes of the Lord", "do not collect the riches", "sell all your belongings and give it to the poor", "slaves and master are all the same" etc., etc.  The idea of not wanting to become rich on Earth but instead distributing wealth (Matthew 19:21) to the needy is the principal mantra of communism.  John 13:16 - "Very truly I tell you, no servant is greater than his master, nor is a messenger greater than the one who sent him.".  Matthew is full of socialist directives.

Guess what?  We do not have the same skills and abilities (direct contradiction with the Bible), masters are smarter than slaves; that is why they are fucking masters.  We do not desire the same things.  The idea of the distribution of wealth to the poor and needy was first introduced in the Bible.  

Matthew 6:2-4
2 Thessalonians 3:10
Acts 2:44-45
2 Corinthians 8:13-15
Galatians 6:2
Ephesians 4:28
Matthew 19:21
Luke 3:11
Acts 4:32-35
Acts 5:1-42
1 John 3:17
Deuteronomy 14:28-29
1 Corinthians 10:24
Matthew 6:24
Zechariah 11:12
Exodus 16:16-18
James 5:1-6
Leviticus 25:35-38
Matthew 20:1-34
Proverbs 28:8
Psalm 112:9
2 Corinthians 8:1-9:15
1 Corinthians 9:7
Jeremiah 29:7
Proverbs 30:8-9
Deuteronomy 15:9-11
Revelation 13:1-18
Revelation 1:1-20
2 Thessalonians 3:1-18
1 Thessalonians 4:1-18
Philippians 4:1-23
Philippians 2:1-30
Luke 12:1-59
Matthew 25:1-46
Isaiah 65:21-22
Proverbs 28:27
Proverbs 18:8-12
Psalm 118:8
Psalm 112:1-113:9
Nehemiah 1:1-11
1 Samuel 2:3-11
Deuteronomy 23:24-25
Deuteronomy 10:18
Leviticus 23:1-25:55
Exodus 23:10-11
Acts 4:1-37
Acts 2:1-47
John 12:1-50
John 10:1-42
Luke 3:1-38
Matthew 25:15
Matthew 20:15
Zechariah 14:1-21
Micah 2:1-3:12
Jeremiah 32:1-44
Jeremiah 17:1-27
Jeremiah 5:1-31
Psalm 81:1-82:8
Leviticus 23:22
1 John 3:12-23
Galatians 6:1-18
2 Corinthians 9:7
1 Corinthians 12:1-31
Luke 11:1-54
Matthew 26:1-12
Matthew 19:21-24
Isaiah 26:1-21
Isaiah 25:1-12
Proverbs 31:9
Proverbs 13:4
1 Timothy 5:8
Romans 13:1-14
Luke 14:13-14
Mark 7:24-29
Matthew 25:31-36
Matthew 13:44
Amos 8:1-14
Ezekiel 17:1-10
Isaiah 3:1-26
Proverbs 29:21
Proverbs 27:17-27
Proverbs 20:13-30
Proverbs 19:10
Proverbs 17:14-28
Proverbs 11:18-26
Proverbs 10:2-7
Psalm 109:4
Psalm 28:1-9
Nehemiah 5:1-19
Exodus 23:3
Exodus 18:18-27
Exodus 5:7
1 Corinthians 3:7-11
John 8:32
Matthew 21:1-46
Matthew 20:1-16
Matthew 7:12
Daniel 11:1-45

Problem is that most Christians do not know their own shit.  They are Christians only because they were indoctrinated by their parents and/or grandparents.  They know bits and pieces that were fed to them when they were little.   Anti-socialist or Anti-communist Christian is an oxymoron.

Jesus was the first Socialist.  

You are in denial.

yeosaga
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 223
Merit: 14


View Profile
April 11, 2019, 06:27:07 PM
 #129

In case anyone is wondering..
Dalam ajaran islam tidak di ajarkan seseorang menjadi teroris, islam mengajarkan sopansantun, kasih sayang daritadinya pemukul menjadi perangkul, munkin ini adalah sebagian kelompok yg benci terhadap islam.
Says tidak setuju islam dikatakan agama teroris.

Google translated from Indonesian: "In Islamic teachings not taught by someone to be a terrorist, Islam teaches sopansantun, affection from being a hitter becomes a hijacker, but this is probably a group that hates Islam. Says do not agree that Islam is said to be a terrorist religion."

What you have shown with your last post is you do not even know your own Christian mythology.  Socialist doctrine is based on the Christian ideology.  You got this backwards.

Do you even know what my position is?

Are you sure you questioned the atheist position?  Where are your arguments to prove that the supernatural exists?  Here is your chance to win the Nobel Prize.  Let's go.

You are an opinionated, Christian Anarchist who disagrees with everything he sees or hears.  You are just an automaton with no original critical thinking skills, IMHO.

No, I am pretty sure I do know quite a bit about Christian mythology, but I would love to see you source the information that you think proves Socialism/Communism was based upon it. There is actually a lot of evidence however Communism was at least partially based upon the Talmud, not just because of a lot of overlapping ideologies, but because of Karl Marx's lineage from a long line of rabbis as well as a few other things related to The Bolshevik Revolution.

You have made your position as a holier than thou edgy boi atheist pretty clear so, I don't know why I wouldn't know your position at this point. Do you even know my position? You have no problem calling me a Christian Anarchist, when I never said anything of the sort. Frankly I think Anarchists are short sighted people who are usually just Socialists and Communists anyway, but they don't know enough about either of those systems to know any better, they just think Anarchism sounds more edgy and they have a cool logo which makes a great patch to put next to their Black Flag or Misfits patches.

Again, you seem to be fixated on wanting to discuss the validity of belief, as I already stated, I consider the debate of the validity of having religious beliefs themselves one way or the other to be an asinine task, also one that is not the subject of this thread, so take it to the atheism thread edgy boi.


Now I know you did not personally read the Bible.  The source is the fucking Bible.

It is all about "we are all equal in the eyes of the Lord", "do not collect the riches", "sell all your belongings and give it to the poor", "slaves and master are all the same" etc., etc.  The idea of not wanting to become rich on Earth but instead distributing wealth (Matthew 19:21) to the needy is the principal mantra of communism.  John 13:16 - "Very truly I tell you, no servant is greater than his master, nor is a messenger greater than the one who sent him.".  Matthew is full of socialist directives.

Guess what?  We do not have the same skills and abilities (direct contradiction with the Bible), masters are smarter than slaves; that is why they are fucking masters.  We do not desire the same things.  The idea of the distribution of wealth to the poor and needy was first introduced in the Bible.  

Matthew 6:2-4
2 Thessalonians 3:10
Acts 2:44-45
2 Corinthians 8:13-15
Galatians 6:2
Ephesians 4:28
Matthew 19:21
Luke 3:11
Acts 4:32-35
Acts 5:1-42
1 John 3:17
Deuteronomy 14:28-29
1 Corinthians 10:24
Matthew 6:24
Zechariah 11:12
Exodus 16:16-18
James 5:1-6
Leviticus 25:35-38
Matthew 20:1-34
Proverbs 28:8
Psalm 112:9
2 Corinthians 8:1-9:15
1 Corinthians 9:7
Jeremiah 29:7
Proverbs 30:8-9
Deuteronomy 15:9-11
Revelation 13:1-18
Revelation 1:1-20
2 Thessalonians 3:1-18
1 Thessalonians 4:1-18
Philippians 4:1-23
Philippians 2:1-30
Luke 12:1-59
Matthew 25:1-46
Isaiah 65:21-22
Proverbs 28:27
Proverbs 18:8-12
Psalm 118:8
Psalm 112:1-113:9
Nehemiah 1:1-11
1 Samuel 2:3-11
Deuteronomy 23:24-25
Deuteronomy 10:18
Leviticus 23:1-25:55
Exodus 23:10-11
Acts 4:1-37
Acts 2:1-47
John 12:1-50
John 10:1-42
Luke 3:1-38
Matthew 25:15
Matthew 20:15
Zechariah 14:1-21
Micah 2:1-3:12
Jeremiah 32:1-44
Jeremiah 17:1-27
Jeremiah 5:1-31
Psalm 81:1-82:8
Leviticus 23:22
1 John 3:12-23
Galatians 6:1-18
2 Corinthians 9:7
1 Corinthians 12:1-31
Luke 11:1-54
Matthew 26:1-12
Matthew 19:21-24
Isaiah 26:1-21
Isaiah 25:1-12
Proverbs 31:9
Proverbs 13:4
1 Timothy 5:8
Romans 13:1-14
Luke 14:13-14
Mark 7:24-29
Matthew 25:31-36
Matthew 13:44
Amos 8:1-14
Ezekiel 17:1-10
Isaiah 3:1-26
Proverbs 29:21
Proverbs 27:17-27
Proverbs 20:13-30
Proverbs 19:10
Proverbs 17:14-28
Proverbs 11:18-26
Proverbs 10:2-7
Psalm 109:4
Psalm 28:1-9
Nehemiah 5:1-19
Exodus 23:3
Exodus 18:18-27
Exodus 5:7
1 Corinthians 3:7-11
John 8:32
Matthew 21:1-46
Matthew 20:1-16
Matthew 7:12
Daniel 11:1-45

Problem is that most Christians do not know their own shit.  They are Christians only because they were indoctrinated by their parents and/or grandparents.  They know bits and pieces that were fed to them when they were little.   Anti-socialist or Anti-communist Christian is an oxymoron.

Jesus was the first Socialist.  

You are in denial.

I read through Daniel 11:1-45 out of curiosity and it goes over kings and their battles, I am trying to find where it talks about socialism. Can you point me at the passage, please?

!ooh
TECSHARE
In memoriam
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3318
Merit: 1958


First Exclusion Ever


View Profile WWW
April 11, 2019, 07:14:31 PM
 #130

Narrowly interpreted cherry picked rambling shot gunning of sources

Cool interpretation bro. You keep up the good fight of being a supremacist.
Beliager
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 70
Merit: 0


View Profile
April 11, 2019, 07:41:09 PM
 #131

Those who say so are mistaken. It is just a religion, very peaceful.
I have a few friends of Masulman, they are very friendly.
TECSHARE
In memoriam
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3318
Merit: 1958


First Exclusion Ever


View Profile WWW
April 11, 2019, 07:44:11 PM
 #132

Those who say so are mistaken. It is just a religion, very peaceful.
I have a few friends of Masulman, they are very friendly.

It is also a political system. What you are saying there is known as "anecdotal information" IE not statistically relevant.
BADecker
Legendary
*
Online Online

Activity: 3794
Merit: 1373


View Profile
April 11, 2019, 08:55:09 PM
 #133


Jesus was the first Socialist.  

You are in denial.

Why Jesus, and not Adam and Eve? After all, Adam and Eve had the first family, didn't they?

    Cool

Cure your cancer at home. Ivermectin, fenbendazole, methylene blue, and hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) are chief among parasite drugs. Find out that all disease is based in parasites or pollution, and what you can easily do about it - https://www.huldaclark.com/.
Spendulus
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2898
Merit: 1386



View Profile
April 11, 2019, 09:22:05 PM
 #134

Those who say so are mistaken. It is just a religion, very peaceful.
I have a few friends of Masulman, they are very friendly.

Okay.

Here's the last couple days of Muslim "peace."

2019.04.09 (Egypt)
A 6-year-old is among seven locals dispatched by a teen suicide bomber.
2019.04.09 (India)
A prominent Hindu leader and his guard are assassinated by Muslim radicals.
2019.04.08 (Pakistan)
A polio worker is gunned down by suspected fundamentalists.
2019.04.07 (Nigeria)
Two female suicide bombers take out three innocents in a crowd.
2019.04.07 (Afghanistan)
A child and two women are exterminated by radical bombers.
2019.04.05 (Philippines)
Abu Sayyaf shoots a hostage, while another drowns trying to escape.
BADecker
Legendary
*
Online Online

Activity: 3794
Merit: 1373


View Profile
April 11, 2019, 09:42:56 PM
 #135

There are two basic laws. One is love your neighbor as yourself. The other is to love God above all things.

If all the people were Muslims, they would seem to love their neighbor as themselves. But would they really? No! Why not? Because Islam doesn't promote Jesus salvation, the only way to be saved. So, Muslims really don't love God above all things, or their neighbor as themselves. Both God and peaceful people want people to be saved.

Cool

Cure your cancer at home. Ivermectin, fenbendazole, methylene blue, and hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) are chief among parasite drugs. Find out that all disease is based in parasites or pollution, and what you can easily do about it - https://www.huldaclark.com/.
coins4commies
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 952
Merit: 175

@cryptocommies


View Profile
April 12, 2019, 09:59:47 AM
 #136

Those who say so are mistaken. It is just a religion, very peaceful.
I have a few friends of Masulman, they are very friendly.

Okay.

Here's the last couple days of Muslim "peace."

2019.04.09 (Egypt)
A 6-year-old is among seven locals dispatched by a teen suicide bomber.
2019.04.09 (India)
A prominent Hindu leader and his guard are assassinated by Muslim radicals.
2019.04.08 (Pakistan)
A polio worker is gunned down by suspected fundamentalists.
2019.04.07 (Nigeria)
Two female suicide bombers take out three innocents in a crowd.
2019.04.07 (Afghanistan)
A child and two women are exterminated by radical bombers.
2019.04.05 (Philippines)
Abu Sayyaf shoots a hostage, while another drowns trying to escape.
So 6 incidents out of how many people?  Sounds like the problem is that you don't know any muslims and these storeis in the media are the only time you hear about muslims.  The problem is your lack of perspective. 
Spendulus
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2898
Merit: 1386



View Profile
April 12, 2019, 02:43:08 PM
 #137

Those who say so are mistaken. It is just a religion, very peaceful.
I have a few friends of Masulman, they are very friendly.

Okay.

Here's the last couple days of Muslim "peace."

2019.04.09 (Egypt)
A 6-year-old is among seven locals dispatched by a teen suicide bomber.
2019.04.09 (India)
A prominent Hindu leader and his guard are assassinated by Muslim radicals.
2019.04.08 (Pakistan)
A polio worker is gunned down by suspected fundamentalists.
2019.04.07 (Nigeria)
Two female suicide bombers take out three innocents in a crowd.
2019.04.07 (Afghanistan)
A child and two women are exterminated by radical bombers.
2019.04.05 (Philippines)
Abu Sayyaf shoots a hostage, while another drowns trying to escape.
So 6 incidents out of how many people?  Sounds like ....

So you are good with the last couple days of Muslim "peace."
KingScorpio
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 1470
Merit: 325



View Profile WWW
April 12, 2019, 03:13:31 PM
 #138

Cry Why so many people say "Muslims are terrorists"  Should we say that? Cry Cry

I think there is always a scapegoat in the community.

Who is the most violent perpetrator of the massacre? Who?

I Think "" Hitler "!!! He persecuted 6 million Jews. With that we blame the Christians for that ?, Hitler, He's Christian ,so because he persecutes the Jews, it does not mean all Christians are like that.

Then , How about Muslims? are they all terrorists? Are there organizations that want to create a " Muslims Phobia" ?
It is inappropriate for us fellow humans to hate and kill each other.

what do you think?  


muslims are doomed to only want to live in a theistic state, even if that theistic state is no way humanist and surpresses wealth in any form.

its part of the religion, islam doesnt promote the ammassment of wealth they have a religious law called sharia, that they are supposed to follow no computers etc.

regards

TECSHARE
In memoriam
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 3318
Merit: 1958


First Exclusion Ever


View Profile WWW
April 12, 2019, 07:30:19 PM
 #139

So 6 incidents out of how many people?  Sounds like the problem is that you don't know any muslims and these storeis in the media are the only time you hear about muslims.  The problem is your lack of perspective. 

Care to source how many "Christian" terrorist attacks happened over the last few days since you think this is just a matter of selective reporting?
Spendulus
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2898
Merit: 1386



View Profile
April 12, 2019, 09:01:44 PM
 #140

So 6 incidents out of how many people?  Sounds like the problem is that you don't know any muslims and these storeis in the media are the only time you hear about muslims.  The problem is your lack of perspective. 

Care to source how many "Christian" terrorist attacks happened over the last few days since you think this is just a matter of selective reporting?

Here's an interesting attack on a Christian by Muslims from 2016. Because these are pretty much daily events, they do not make the mainstream news reporting.

On the morning of July 26, 2016, two 19-year-old Islamic State radicals, Adel Kermiche and Abdel Malik Petitjean, burst into Father Hamel’s church in Saint-Etienne-du-Rouvray shouting “Allahu Akbar!” They seized the priest who was celebrating Mass, along with 5 other members of the congregation.

Just before having his throat slit, Father Hamel told one of his assailants, “Be gone, Satan!”

https://www.breitbart.com/faith/2019/04/11/french-priest-slain-by-jihadists-moves-towards-sainthood/
Pages: « 1 2 3 4 5 6 [7] 8 9 10 11 12 13 »  All
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!