Mods now deleting posts regarding them supporting scammers? how far can it go?

[cryptohunter]

I think we need a transparent system that helps us see which mods are deleting posts.

I posted on the hostfat (is a bad guy) thread that his seemingly complicit actions and conflict of interest is not something new. Many mods support knowingly those that are proven liars, and scammers and said that lauda (a proven scam protector, liar, trust abuser and probable extortionist) claiming host far is a terrible mod is not something that essentially validates your claims.

Hostfats actions seemingly look in poor taste but considering other mods will support openly those with even MORE shady history then I do not think he will be removed as the OP requested.

Now it was deleted?

Why?
Which mod deleted it?

I say again. Mods here are openly supporting those that observably lie,support scams, trust abuse and are probable extortionists and those that demonstrate other sneaky greedy and devious actions.

If this is deleted then give a reason and tell me which mod is deleting it.

It looks shady as hell.

Again - want to refute this or debate it then just ask me.

I am getting tired of these people being allowed to punish those presenting observable events that demonstrate their clear wrong doing. Time for this to be sorted out.

You mention observable events that demonstrate DT are shady you get red trust.
You mention observable events that demonstrate DT are red trusting you for whilstblowing more red trust
You mention observable events that demonstrate mods are supporting those DT you get deleted

haha free speech is thriving here on bct.

Yes I am very willing to get into a debate on this..... come on mods where are you? which mod is deleting my posts?

I try and discuss this with them and they will not discuss it.

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[TMAN]

Maybe because even the mods are bored of your shit

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I reported a post recently in a thread I started about PIVX, and it was summarily deleted--so I'm pretty happy with how the mods do their job.  Always have been, because at least they're not sitting on their asses eating donuts.  As an aside, the thread I started was out of genuine curiosity and I'd like some replies, but all I've gotten so far is two shitposts, one of which is still there (but I reported it).  There's no real discussion in Altcoin Discussion.

Cryptohunter, you'd like that thread I think.  When I was searching for PIVX information, I came across a thread you'd started about the coin and if I recall correctly I would have bumped it had it not been locked.  Give the mods a break.  It can't be a simple job trying to moderate a forum where entire sections are infested with garbage.  And that's what I and most DT members have been fighting against for quite some time now.  We just want a forum where there's some actual give and take.

[suchmoon]

Maybe because even the mods are bored of your shit

He posts his stupid shit all over the place, regardless of how far off topic it is. I'm getting seriously annoyed at how much leeway he's getting from the mods. All this nonsense should be merged into one thread. Sure, complaints must be heard. But not by bumping unrelated threads and creating a new one every time a post gets deleted.

Am I warm?

Smoking hot.

[Foxpup]

Without knowing anything else about this case, I'm just going to assume that you were ranting about Lauda and/or DT in a thread that had nothing to do with them, your rant was deleted because it was off topic, and now you're complaining because in your mind the "Lauda/DT issue" affects the whole forum and is therefore on topic in any thread (again, only in your own mind). Am I warm?

[TMAN]

Maybe because even the mods are bored of your shit

He posts his stupid shit all over the place, regardless of how far off topic it is. I'm getting seriously annoyed at how much leeway he's getting from the mods. All this nonsense should be merged into one thread. Sure, complaints must be heard. But not by bumping unrelated threads and creating a new one every time a post gets deleted.

It’s total horseshit, the fool is just polluting the forum now. No one gives a shit due to the length of the posts and total repetition.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

Maybe because even the mods are bored of your shit

He posts his stupid shit all over the place, regardless of how far off topic it is. I'm getting seriously annoyed at how much leeway he's getting from the mods. All this nonsense should be merged into one thread. Sure, complaints must be heard. But not by bumping unrelated threads and creating a new one every time a post gets deleted.

Maybe you should keep all your complaints about how the forum is run in one thread?
I think it’d even be worth allowing you your own sub section to vent about everything - It’d benefit both yourself & the rest of the community.

I think everybody is sick of you starting multiple threads, regularly, about pretty much the same stuff over & over again.

Seriously, I’m not even trolling. A cryptohunter forum ideas & proposals subsection would be a good idea because people who just want to come into Meta & avoid you wouldn’t have to see it.

Anybody agree with me?

[Lauda]

Without knowing anything else about this case, I'm just going to assume that you were ranting about Lauda and/or DT in a thread that had nothing to do with them, your rant was deleted because it was off topic, and now you're complaining because in your mind the "Lauda/DT issue" affects the whole forum and is therefore on topic in any thread (again, only in your own mind). Am I warm?

Exactly. The amount of off-topic posting required to get you banned seems to be very high for high ranked members.

[cryptohunter]

hehe the gang....

Well provide evidence you clowns then I can take you seriously. Else you will just provide my daily entertainment like usual.

I see here already we have many of the proven untrustworthy scum bags on this thread.

Bring some examples of the incorrect information that I am proliferating all over the board.

I challenge you to Bring it here now?

What you mean is please cryptohunter stop presenting observable events that demonstrate we are untrustworthy scum. Isn't it ?

LOL a LAUDA here now begging .... please ban him he keeps presenting observable events that clearly show I am scum. I mean surely he should be banned and I should be DT and merit source haha

Keep dreaming saps. Cryptohunter or his loyal friends are never going to be gone. EVER.

Exactly. The amount of off-topic posting required to get you banned seems to be very high for high ranked members.

More like it seems the threshold for banning liars, scammers, extortionists, trust abusers, escrow abusers of senior scumbags seems unobtainable.  I've experience your lies and scamming since you joined you dirt bag. Get back  from whence you came

[Foxpup]

Bring some examples of the incorrect information that I am proliferating all over the board.

The correctness or incorrectness of the information doesn't even come into it (we've got a flat Earth thread, FFS); you're just not allowed to proliferate it "all over the board". Create a single thread for each topic you wish to discuss, and don't post outside of those threads where your information is not relevant.

[cryptohunter]

Bring some examples of the incorrect information that I am proliferating all over the board.

The correctness or incorrectness of the information doesn't even come into it (we've got a flat Earth thread, FFS); you're just not allowed to proliferate it "all over the board". Create a single thread for each topic you wish to discuss, and don't post outside of those threads where your information is not relevant.

So the girl who does not give a fuck is here again to comment. I see.

SO YOU CAN NOT PROVIDE ANY INCORRECT INFORMATION THAT I HAVE PRESENTED.

thanks for confirming that most of your pals are liars and making false allegations. Helpful as ever.

Same gang all merit cycling, voting each other on DT, all protecting each other in threads. haha


and then they said there is no collusion ....................hahahahah

[theymos]

Which mod deleted it?

I did. Feel free to rant all you want in your own topics, but quit derailing unrelated topics.

[TMAN]

Which mod deleted it?

I did. Feel free to rant all you want in your own topics, but quit derailing unrelated topics.

Brilliant..

Get the hint CH

[stompix]

Yes I am very willing to get into a debate on this..... come on mods where are you? which mod is deleting my posts?

I did.

Stompix loading popcorn bag after popcorn bag in the microwave....

[PrimeNumber7]

OP - a big of unsolicited advice to you:
Instead of attacking the person who took action against you, it would be better to attack the action taken against you.
Instead of challenging the mod, you should dispute the fact your post was deleted.

I have no idea what your deal is, or if it was right to delete your post or not. I have no interest in investigating if your post was deleted wrongly, and will not take a position for or against deleting your post.

From what I can see, you are involved in creating a lot of drama, and should cut back some.

[cryptohunter]

Which mod deleted it?

I did. Feel free to rant all you want in your own topics, but quit derailing unrelated topics.

LETS DEBATE THIS LIKE ADULTS THEYMOS.

I am heading for 30yrs old in a few years, and I wish to just have a sensible and reasonable discussion. I am not against you or this board. I am grateful for this place. I am a big fan of this board of course. Free speech is what has made it great and we should not sell this out to get a handle on some account farmers and bots.


1. the thread is about hostfat ( a mod)  that is apparently trying to silence a critic of his sponsor and should apparently be banned on this basis.

2. Lauda shows up and says that hostfat is a terrible mod and its a shady sponsor.

now when a discussion starts to form you need to analyse the information each person presents ( if it is relevant) and analyse it. To make the best informed decision you want the discussion to have ALL possible related information right?? Lauda presents zero supporting evidence for his claims.

3. I present some on topic and relevant information that could  help people reach the optimal solution here

a/ we must consider lauda can be observed telling lies for financial gain so his opinion without evidence must be viewed in full knowledge of that..

b/ the other observable dirty looking events in laudas history that demonstrate that obviously any REAL mod or admin would likely not be that favourable to lauda.

c/  this  supporting of observable shady deeds and those committing them is unlikely to result in a ban as the OP is requesting because we can observe other mods openly support those who commit shady deeds and they are not banned.


4/ I notice later the OP for some reason just takes on laudas comment at face value. Likely because it bolsters his own. Rightly or wrongly is as yet unknown.


The ranting?? I guess you mean observable events that demonstrate you are allowing a liar, scam promoter (yes we can debate darkcoin being a scam if you like, it is clear to most including the dev who offered a 2 000 000 000 usd compensation due to my highlighting this fact that there was obviously wrongdoing at the start. ).

I mean you are clear that scamming is lying for financial or unfair gain right? also a trust abuser and probable extortionist to red trust people who mention these observable events after he attacks them?

I can not at all see where it is

1. off topic
2. derailing
3. irrelevant.

I just need to understand how those things are off topic , irrelevant and derailing. Perhaps I just don't get this board but I see other discussions where people look way off topic and just bring in tons of personal attacks THAT ARE GROUNDLESS and therefore totally derailing. I mean if they are not true how can they be relevant?

Why are you not taking action against people that are abusing these systems you have left wide open to gross abuse and that irrefutably is leading to free speech being left vulnerable ? why are you leaving this to me?

Can you not see they don't care about anything you tell them? they continue to use red trust as a weapon to silence people.

Have you even looked into my abuse? do you realise that it is quite possible to argue that I stopped bitcoin getting knocked into 2nd place for the first time in history? and caused people who think they can get away with lying for financial gain and unfair advantage (scammers) to offer a 2 000 000 000 usd compensation airdrop. Do you not realise I fight for the people getting bullied around here?

Let's discuss things here. I can help you and this board but you are not going in the correct direction. I do not believe you want to suffocate free speech but you are allowing others to do so. Can you not see how merit and trust can be used to stifle free speech yes or no?

Are you going to let this place become an echo chamber milked to death by these revolting scum bags?

How come I am the bad guy on this board all of a sudden. I first bumped into lauda when he was telling bare faced lies for financial gain. Nothing has change with this dirt bag and yet you support his actions of red trusting me after this piece of scum OUT OF NOWHERE appeared on my threads derailing and making false accusations I am a liar??
So I if he continues to keep repeating these lies without presenting evidence I will encourage others to look into his past??

I am the bad guy? wtf is this place.

Then his "pals" who come in on his extortion crap and can see operating as a gang start red trusting me more when I complain about it. They admit they will red trust be for " presenting facts"

This is unbelievable and certainly unfair.

All I want is for all persons to be treated fairly and equally. Sorry if that makes me the bad guy here.

I will not tolerate a scamming tag put on my account. I am the fairest person I have met and also I have never scammed anyone in my life. Actually I don't see anything I have done at all wrong since being here all of these years.

These people are scammers and scumbags and are daring to put this crap on my account because I told the truth about them after they attacked me.

DO SOMETHING ABOUT THEM I have had enough of this bullshit already. These are not excellent members these are scum bags. There is nothing that can prevent people from seeing this by simply reading their histories here.

[theymos]

One of the deleted posts:

It sounds like the basis for you saying there is unethical behavior is that HostFat is using a referral link in his signature for an exchange you believe is untrustworthy.

I don't think this reaches the point of it being necessary to take forum action.

As a moderator , he/she should distance from all the services that does not look fair.
Theymos removed Benson Samuel when hack incident happened on the exchange in which Benson was CEO though there are no evidences/allegations against Benson.

LOL mods openly support scammers and their pals here. Please get serious. Ask them why and they vanish and hide.

Honest people are given red trust and ganged up on if they dare mention any of this  or any observable wrong doing of the dirty bunch of turds here. All of DT is corrupt or are not worth having. They are either direct scammers, trust abusers, liars, sneaky greedy scum, supporters of such, or too petrified and weak to do anything.

 It is the most ridiculous bunch of weasels I ever encountered. You can just imagine what this bunch of over weight nerds look like in real life all scared and gimpish . If you corner even the brightest of a dull bunch and get a debate going on the actions of DT's you will get statements like.... THE TRUTH DOES NOT INTEREST ME, or I think it is good that innocent people get red trust because it makes people more aware of the dangers here.

It is a ludicrous control system and satoshi would be disgusted with it.

None of them will debate it because they are too scared of the observable events and factual accounts that I can produce.

If lauda and moronbozo don't like hostfat then I am betting he is less corrupt and devious than most of the scum in DT and other mods who support them. Those 2 are observable scum and untrustworthy to the max.

The entire forum from DT up is mostly a disgrace and meta is their stinking pit they lurk within.

Want evidence or to debate any thing I have said ask for it and I will produce it.

The sheriff could not give a shit and seems to be suffering from meta "reasoning" syndrome. Again will not debate or even explain observably strange actions he takes that suggest he supports or does not care about the scammy and untrustworthy actions of these gremlins he has enabled to grasp power here. Mods are the least of your worries.

All they have is a buch of false accusations that melt under any scrutiny and none will produce observable events to substantiate their garbled nonsense. Where as I produced observable events to substantiate every claim that I have made regarding their untrustworthy actions and double standards.

Hostfat is likely a saint compared to the rest so I would consider yourself lucky to have a mod that lauda and his scummy bunch do not like.

Having said that ALL mods should be impartial and stick to their mandate.

Nothing in that huge rant has really anything to do with the case involving HostFat and therocktrading. You mentioned HostFat, but you didn't actually address anything related to the topic; you just tried yet another filibuster on your DT talking points.

We see you doing this over and over again. There are 61 good reports against you in the last 60 days. You're going to get banned if you keep this up.

[cryptohunter]

No debate!

Just a statement give as if an establish fact ?

"good reports" - reported by proven untrustworthy  and made good by mods that support these kinds of people on DT. I see.

Threats?

Please make a sensible detailed examination - look I will make it step by step. Just stop me at the step you feel is incorrect.

Let's walk through this and have a sensible debate. I mean perhaps I am wrong. Step by step. Let's see.


THE THREAD IN QUESTION.

Let's take it step by step.


People are discussing their opinions of whether hostfat should be banned or not. Not just the OP many others are voicing their opinions on "action" or banning of hostfat...but not substantiating their opinions to any degree that I can see.

hostfat - is a mod = yes or no?  - then other mods and their SIMILAR actions are of course on topic as a precedent and for obvious comparison. If we are considering if he should be banned or not?

Prior instances of mods supporting observable scammers/liars and other observably untrustworthy persons and examining if they get banned or not is of course totally relevant and sets a precedent and back ground? This is what the thread is about.? how could it possibly be irrelevant or off topic.

What is the point of just saying yes ban or not ban him with nothing to compare to or no precedent ? it makes no sense to keep it entirely ON ONLY the individual person and the individual sponsor?? how is that even sensible?? suggesting you are not allowed to bring in similar instances to make a reasonable case for actions is nonsense. Judges use precedents to decide on actions, lawyers told please don't mention or bring up precedents or you will be in contempt of court or struck off would be ludicrous.

How can you speculate or decide on the fate of a mod for certain actions without considering SIMILAR situations in the past/present? I mean it would be pointless to speculate with no background or precedent right??

The rest of the post is called bringing a supporting case to substantiate the view that you are presenting? all of which is true. Or do you find some of it incorrect?? because if you do not list it in that post then people will start asking for details of what you mean or to clarify and it start to lose focus.

How would another post saying " i don't think hostfat will be banned for that" be helpful in the slightest without bringing a supporting case and precedent??

The supporting case I present for HOSTFAT  not likely to get banned in my opinion for this true and I can bring evidence to support each of the claims.

Saying this kind of reply is license to ban is ludicrous. This post if voted on outside of the weird world of meta would be found to be on topic. There is no need for others to derail by taking it on to discussing DT. .

I do not believe 60 of those 60 were good. I don't think even 20 of those could be demonstrated in the full context of the thread to be good reports. I often start posting ON topic and relevant posts and suddenly get attacked by this same scum and start answering their accusations. THEY ARE causing it. Ban them .

Have people ever been banned before for presenting " largely on topic " observable events and historical back ground?

What about suchmoon saying they were taking me off ignore to deliberately get my posts deleted??

What about my fake red trust?

ALSO

1. what happened to addressing the rest of my post?

2. why threaten people with the silencing hammer when you have not even conclusively won the debate at all?
that is heavy handed cowardly tactics.

4. 60 good (who says they are good wheres the debate) I am calling out mods as supporting these scumbags who are reporting me ....of course they may well mark them as good.  

 . Let us examine every single one and let me demonstrate in the context of the personal attacks on myself that would have taken place in each of these instances that I was simply defending myself and presenting observable events and facts. Why are they all not getting banned for posting offtopic junk and nonsense in my threads over and over and totally flouting my local rules. DOUBLE STANDARDS. Yes that's right I don't bother snitching and crying to the mods or you because I am no snitcher. Even if I report posts for breaking my local rules they get ignored. I mean just go to my threads saying no making it personal. BOOM straight away all DT launching personal attacks straight away.

5. do you refuse a public debate with me on all the OTHER issues I raised in the above post. YES OR NO.
I am more eager to debate the trust system and those persons observably dominating it far more than my posts being deleted.

I mean I am accepting that I could be wrong about this and I just need to adjust my point of view on how forums work and debates are allowed to unfold. However so far I do not see at all how that post is off topic or irrelevant else of course I would not have even brought a thread about it? I am not complaining just so that it can be demonstrated I was wrong and it should have been deleted.



I am grateful for this board and to you really in the big picture, and it is not without regret I find myself having to react like this towards you personally. However you are  the warden of this board entrusted by satoshi and you should consider the wider implications of the systems of control you are creating here and the people that are slipping into sub admin controlling positions.. People being treated fairly and equally is something that must be fought for even if it means some people must eventually sacrifice their own accounts for this cause.

From now on I will detail in my posts how each part is relevant and on topic and post only observable events. If that gets my posts deleted I will be requesting open debate on each and every one.

I am not trying to pick a fight with you since I guess there is no way to actually win some personal battle here with you. I mean down here you are the train man. However I just want to help you see that I am honestly here to help the board more than you realise.

I ask again how did I end up the bad guy here?













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[Quickseller]

None of what you wrote in that post has anything to do with the OP of the thread you posted in.

Who reported a post doesn’t matter because it was a mod that reviewed the post and confirmed it was against the rules. You should expect a post that breaks the rules to eventually get reported.

I don’t report many posts anymore because it has turned into a contest for some people and I don’t like that, but that post is probably something I would report as being off topic.

[cryptohunter]

None of what you wrote in that post has anything to do with the OP of the thread you posted in.

Who reported a post doesn’t matter because it was a mod that reviewed the post and confirmed it was against the rules. You should expect a post that breaks the rules to eventually get reported.

I don’t report many posts anymore because it has turned into a contest for some people and I don’t like that, but that post is probably something I would report as being off topic.

sssshhhh please I will open this debate with you later.

What you have just said is quite stupid in light of your own post that speculates on the action that should be taken with no supporting argument or precedent.

I am simply making a better post than your own in terms of not just spouting opinions with no grounding.

Mine makes several useful comparisons and precedents that can assist the optimal solution. I.E is hostfat conducting himself in any way that would other wise result in other mods being banned in the past.


Your post is basically garbage and groundless opinion like your prior post. It does not even consider the full implications of what the op is asserting. LOL  I mean it is almost a strawman you create there. He is not saying he just wants him banned for that which you state, he is saying that host fat is overtly trying to silence him and threaten him with a ban. We know that is the action of people that often want to silence others.

Save your ass kissing for later on. I will let you kiss mine after I rip your argument to shreds. For now I prefer to let theymos answer since his opinion counts even if he will not justify or explain it. But I am hoping for the best and still remaining nice even though he takes away my rightful merits and supports my abusers and threatens to ban me.

For some reason though i feel there is still hope to bring theymos back to the light. It reminds me of that scene in lord of the rings when gandalf frees theoden

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQExgALv9wI