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Author Topic: [BCN] Bytecoin. Secure, private, untraceable since 2012  (Read 1070249 times)
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April 17, 2014, 12:57:38 PM
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We broke the mark of 100 votes!

We can do it!


You realize that BCN is, in effect, 80% premined ? It was not released on clearnet until about a week ago.

FAQ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=557322.0) :

Q: When Bytecoin BCN blockchain started?
A: According to the block chain info, "the first block was founded 07/04/2012 05:00:00 (GMT)" [7].

It's 2 years deepweb old and somebody somewhere (can't provide a link) also did a calculation about the large amount of PC's involved in this.

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April 17, 2014, 01:00:21 PM
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Is someone can send me 1 bytecoin for try please?
Then i will send you back for trying how to make a transfer

28nKBP39x7U2w5cixjo8xidNubNVZpvAxJ5gqFbype95aXHBpPq1Z9sWD1VdmLMpV3ebLU2kWc6AfLR 3qLcwBBfkLRzKEP5

Done! Wink

Money successfully sent, transaction <a402a9b2faa4e9cd52968846f4e69400e5653bad36632530d13d1769cebf5e1f>

Thank you
I received 10 Byte
And 1 Byte
Give me your adress for send back

Check PM  Smiley

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April 17, 2014, 01:20:05 PM
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Is someone can send me 1 bytecoin for try please?
Then i will send you back for trying how to make a transfer

28nKBP39x7U2w5cixjo8xidNubNVZpvAxJ5gqFbype95aXHBpPq1Z9sWD1VdmLMpV3ebLU2kWc6AfLR 3qLcwBBfkLRzKEP5

Done! Wink

Money successfully sent, transaction <a402a9b2faa4e9cd52968846f4e69400e5653bad36632530d13d1769cebf5e1f>

Thank you
I received 10 Byte
And 1 Byte
Give me your adress for send back

Check PM  Smiley
great , this actually confirms that this coin has anonymous transactions.
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April 17, 2014, 01:59:04 PM
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You realize that BCN is, in effect, 80% premined ? It was not released on clearnet until about a week ago.

Bytecoin was launched 7/4/2012 (I mean - in darkweb). We know that ”old” BCN-users are very closed but the devs communicate with us and send puzzles from time to time. Info about this can be found here (this thread).

Also I think nobody will create a coin and wait for 2 years before going into the market. It even sounds stupid Grin

I've finally synchronized my blockchain with this new version of code and downloaded some statistics. Here is a difficulty chart starting from the genesis block.
Spike in november 2012 looks strange for me, but it exists in data.


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April 17, 2014, 02:16:38 PM
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great , this actually confirms that this coin has anonymous transactions.

I wouldn't say anonymous (users can see where things are going and what amounts) but rather strong privacy -- stealth addressing ensures no address reuse and impossibility of linking addresses to individuals without their private keys, the multisig ring signature scheme makes it difficult to see where transactions originated from.

ZeroCash is totally anonymous, but the downside to that scheme is that people can't observe inflation if there is a bug in the program etc

Code:
XMR: 44GBHzv6ZyQdJkjqZje6KLZ3xSyN1hBSFAnLP6EAqJtCRVzMzZmeXTC2AHKDS9aEDTRKmo6a6o9r9j86pYfhCWDkKjbtcns
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April 17, 2014, 02:33:47 PM
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great , this actually confirms that this coin has anonymous transactions.

I wouldn't say anonymous (users can see where things are going and what amounts) but rather strong privacy -- stealth addressing ensures no address reuse and impossibility of linking addresses to individuals without their private keys, the multisig ring signature scheme makes it difficult to see where transactions originated from.

ZeroCash is totally anonymous, but the downside to that scheme is that people can't observe inflation if there is a bug in the program etc

So there are 2 choices if I understood correctly:
1. not complete (99%) anonymity and easy bug fixing
2. complete anonymity and bugsbugsbugs?

*not a professional in cryptos at all*
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April 17, 2014, 02:49:20 PM
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Regarding the age of bytecoin.org: Maybe it is not as old as 2012, but at least it dates from March 2013 https://web.archive.org/web/20130304080736/http://bytecoin.org/
And since I guess they did not attempted any SEO, it probably took time to archive.org to find the website. So 2012 is probable.

Cryptonote.org is at least as old as august 2013 https://web.archive.org/web/20131020133207/https://cryptonote.org/ And it was litteally a work-in-progress by this time.

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April 17, 2014, 02:54:09 PM
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Has anyone succeeded in compiling the source code on OS X ?

In the file "oaes_lib.c" I needed to add

#include <malloc/malloc.h>
#include <stdio.h>

but now I am stuck on the error

Linking CXX executable connectivity_tool
ld: library not found for -lrt

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April 17, 2014, 02:55:51 PM
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Guys!
See what I have received just right now!


Link: http://matrixtxri745dfw.onion/neo/uploads/140417/MATRIXtxri745dfwONION_164353fVY_meetyou12345.jpg (it's opened only by TOR browser)

That's so strange and, to be honest, I'm a little bit scared by this.

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April 17, 2014, 03:10:15 PM
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Guys!
See what I have received just right now!


Link: http://matrixtxri745dfw.onion/neo/uploads/140417/MATRIXtxri745dfwONION_164353fVY_meetyou12345.jpg (it's opened only by TOR browser)

That's so strange and, to be honest, I'm a little bit scared by this.
My guess is that they are going to introduce a new fork, which will compete with the simultaneously released Bitmonero fork.
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April 17, 2014, 03:11:22 PM
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great , this actually confirms that this coin has anonymous transactions.

I wouldn't say anonymous (users can see where things are going and what amounts) but rather strong privacy -- stealth addressing ensures no address reuse and impossibility of linking addresses to individuals without their private keys, the multisig ring signature scheme makes it difficult to see where transactions originated from.

ZeroCash is totally anonymous, but the downside to that scheme is that people can't observe inflation if there is a bug in the program etc

So there are 2 choices if I understood correctly:
1. not complete (99%) anonymity and easy bug fixing
2. complete anonymity and bugsbugsbugs?

*not a professional in cryptos at all*

Well, with (2) it's more like, "you can't see anything that's going on, you just know what your account balance is."  ZeroCash is using zero-knowledge proofs at every step to generate and send coins, so you can't really see anything going on in the network in terms of inputs and outputs -- you can just verify whether or not it's valid.

So you end up with the situation where if someone found some kind of bug to exploit the system, you wouldn't be able to detect it.

With ByteCoin you can have someone's address and still not know at all if coins are being sent to them or sent by them.

Code:
XMR: 44GBHzv6ZyQdJkjqZje6KLZ3xSyN1hBSFAnLP6EAqJtCRVzMzZmeXTC2AHKDS9aEDTRKmo6a6o9r9j86pYfhCWDkKjbtcns
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April 17, 2014, 03:39:29 PM
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great , this actually confirms that this coin has anonymous transactions.

I wouldn't say anonymous (users can see where things are going and what amounts) but rather strong privacy -- stealth addressing ensures no address reuse and impossibility of linking addresses to individuals without their private keys, the multisig ring signature scheme makes it difficult to see where transactions originated from.

ZeroCash is totally anonymous, but the downside to that scheme is that people can't observe inflation if there is a bug in the program etc
but ZeroCash is centralised which is no good.  anyone know is bytecoin decentralized?
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April 17, 2014, 04:27:43 PM
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ít's not worth of mining on that pool. I got only 90 000 only after 12 hours. With same machine i'm able to solomine 2 - 3 blocks (132 000) per day.

there must be only a few hundred really active BCN miners. It runs almost 2 years and even now it's extremely easy to mine. With my single humble machine im able to get 1 million in 3.5 days, that's crazy.[/i][/b][/size]
Which machine do you have? So that I can compare with what I can do.

BTW, I hate[1] am annoyed by GPU mineable coins, as it clearly gives an advantage to riggers vs ordinary people.


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April 17, 2014, 04:34:06 PM
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This site from the received picture (http://hs5jfdmnhw63bcbc.onion/) asks me to wait
And there is the same music as at bytecoin.org  Grin
I think it's a new puzzle for us. Seems like weekly bytecoin puzzles become a tradition.

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April 17, 2014, 04:36:38 PM
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BTW, I hate[1] am annoyed by GPU mineable coins, as it clearly gives an advantage to riggers vs ordinary people.

I tell ya; the mining business is rigged...
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April 17, 2014, 04:57:33 PM
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This site from the received picture (http://hs5jfdmnhw63bcbc.onion/) asks me to wait
And there is the same music as at bytecoin.org  Grin
I think it's a new puzzle for us. Seems like weekly bytecoin puzzles become a tradition.
wait for april 18th, 16:00 utc?
is it just me or Cicada 3301 logo disappeared from this image http://matrixtxri745dfw.onion/neo/uploads/140417/MATRIXtxri745dfwONION_164353fVY_meetyou12345.jpg


This site from the received picture (http://hs5jfdmnhw63bcbc.onion/) asks me to wait
And there is the same music as at bytecoin.org  Grin
I think it's a new puzzle for us. Seems like weekly bytecoin puzzles become a tradition.

But why would it say thank you for BCN if it was from them?
perhaps he is OP on this forum for BCN
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April 17, 2014, 06:24:45 PM
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Guys!
See what I have received just right now!


Link: http://matrixtxri745dfw.onion/neo/uploads/140417/MATRIXtxri745dfwONION_164353fVY_meetyou12345.jpg (it's opened only by TOR browser)

That's so strange and, to be honest, I'm a little bit scared by this.

Can we get some screen shots of the site please?
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April 17, 2014, 06:31:49 PM
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Guys!
See what I have received just right now!


Link: http://matrixtxri745dfw.onion/neo/uploads/140417/MATRIXtxri745dfwONION_164353fVY_meetyou12345.jpg (it's opened only by TOR browser)

That's so strange and, to be honest, I'm a little bit scared by this.

Can we get some screen shots of the site please?
I will post as soon as I get home. I got screen shots with cidada logo.
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April 17, 2014, 06:44:06 PM
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What to do if you get a Connect failed to xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:8080? I am on Manjaro Linux and I did not block any port on my router.

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April 17, 2014, 07:07:44 PM
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Can we get some screen shots of the site please?
I will post as soon as I get home. I got screen shots with cidada logo.
Did you get the file also or just the ss?

Apparently that doesn't matter . . I filtered it:




Now I'm intrigued even more.
Did anyone else get the same PM?

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