QS Merit Source Application

[OgNasty]

Minerjones is rated the most trusted person on this site with the current DT structure and he allowed TMAN to manipulate an auction he was hosting on TMAN's behalf to actually run up the price on buyers.  Is QS's crime really worse?  TMAN is even a merit source now, so I honestly don't think QS is a less deserving candidate.  I do find it fascinating how some users are crucified and while others are praised based not on their actions, but by those they choose to support regardless of who is in the wrong.

QS is ridiculed and distrusted precisely because of his actions. I don't even know whom he really supports other than himself and his puppets. He is a top-notch propagandist though, I'll give him that.

I didn't say he wasn't crucified for his actions.  I gave an example of how SOME are crucified (for their actions) while others who have done other arguably worse actions are praised and rewarded as a result of who they support.  Thank you for giving me an opportunity to clear that up.  I made the above edit to my original post to make that more clear.

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[Vod]

I don't praise him.  I treat him fairly.  You're blinded by your bias.

You treat his hypocrisy with complete blindness.  Trying to deceive like this brings down your credibility.

[r1s2g3]

AFAIR, there shouldn't be any - ve tags for Merit Sources (correct me if I'm wrong).

Stingers used to have -ve tag before the implementation of merit system (though stinger is removed for abusing the position.)
Daniel91 application was accepted when he has -ve tag from iluvbitcoin (Currently Iluvbitcoin is not in DT so Daniel91 do not have any -ve tag)

[Lesbian Cow]

I don't praise him.  I treat him fairly.  You're blinded by your bias.

You treat his hypocrisy with complete blindness.  Trying to deceive like this brings down your credibility.

Very well said Vod.

[Quickseller]

For some reason I thought Quickseller was made a merit source back in September when Theymos tapped a bunch of members who hadn't applied.

I thought he was a source too.

If multiple people have though I was already a merit source, and there has not been controversy/concerns with the merits I have been giving out, I don't see any reason why anyone would have legitimate concerns with future merit I give out. I am in the top 25 in terms of recent merit given out.

To those who are saying I will use my sMerit to my own alts, this is not only libelous but is illogical. I have demonstrated that I can earn merit with my own well thought out and insightful comments in my posts. There is no need for me to give merit to myself nor will I. I would request that anyone who has suggested this to either provide evidence of this implication or retract your statement.

And I would request that you publish a full list of all accounts that you've ever posted with on this forum and keep us updated when you acquire new ones.

Is that to say that you have no basis to backup your claim that I would give merit to my hypothetical alts? I will again demand a retraction.

I think TF and Master-P should also apply. We need more scammer sources.

Its too bad I am not accused of scamming anyone.

You collected escrow fees while clearly not supplying escrow services.  That is theft by deception and makes you a scammer.

Any fees collected in regards to what you are referring to was refunded....

Minerjones is rated the most trusted person on this site with the current DT structure and he allowed TMAN to manipulate an auction he was hosting on TMAN's behalf to actually run up the price on buyers. 

Minerjones also backed out of many auctions after they closed under the guise the "real" seller backed out. He also has been at least one escrow of multiple transactions in which those he was supposed to be protecting were told they might not recover the entire amount he was supposed to be protecting (due to escrow incompetence) after one party scammed.

TMAN was also part of at least one extortion attempt that was unsuccessful, and who knows how many that has been successful.

[Lesbian Cow]

For some reason I thought Quickseller was made a merit source back in September when Theymos tapped a bunch of members who hadn't applied.

I thought he was a source too.

If multiple people have though I was already a merit source, and there has not been controversy/concerns with the merits I have been giving out, I don't see any reason why anyone would have legitimate concerns with future merit I give out. I am in the top 25 in terms of recent merit given out.

To those who are saying I will use my sMerit to my own alts, this is not only libelous but is illogical. I have demonstrated that I can earn merit with my own well thought out and insightful comments in my posts. There is no need for me to give merit to myself nor will I. I would request that anyone who has suggested this to either provide evidence of this implication or retract your statement.

And I would request that you publish a full list of all accounts that you've ever posted with on this forum and keep us updated when you acquire new ones.

Is that to say that you have no basis to backup your claim that I would give merit to my hypothetical alts? I will again demand a retraction.

I think TF and Master-P should also apply. We need more scammer sources.

Its too bad I am not accused of scamming anyone.

You collected escrow fees while clearly not supplying escrow services.  That is theft by deception and makes you a scammer.

Any fees collected in regards to what you are referring to was refunded....

Minerjones is rated the most trusted person on this site with the current DT structure and he allowed TMAN to manipulate an auction he was hosting on TMAN's behalf to actually run up the price on buyers. 

Minerjones also backed out of many auctions after they closed under the guise the "real" seller backed out. He also has been at least one escrow of multiple transactions in which those he was supposed to be protecting were told they might not recover the entire amount he was supposed to be protecting (due to escrow incompetence) after one party scammed.

TMAN was also part of at least one extortion attempt that was unsuccessful, and who knows how many that has been successful.

Quickseller, you are a proven scammer.  Other's business practices are irrelevant to the conversation of whether you should be trusted as a merit source. 

[Vod]

Is that to say that you have no basis to backup your claim that I would give merit to my hypothetical alts? I will again demand a retraction.

You claimed I was a pedophile... retract that, call the police, or shut up hypocrite.

[FFrankie]

QS Isn't going to go around meriting posts that don't desetve it nor is he going to send 50 to a ton of people


He should be a merit source.

[suchmoon]

Is that to say that you have no basis to backup your claim that I would give merit to my hypothetical alts? I will again demand a retraction.

Is that to say you will not disclose your alts?

The basis for my claim is your history of suckpuppeting and lying. Good luck retracting that.

[bones261]

Quickseller be like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-crgQGdpZR0

suchmoon, Vod, & Lesbian Cow be like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8Tiz6INF7I

[Quickseller]

Quickseller, you are a proven scammer.  Other's business practices are irrelevant to the conversation of whether you should be trusted as a merit source.  

Your post lacks evidence, is libelous and was disproven in my previous response to you.

Further, it is difficult to take you seriously after you supported allowing someone back whose actions objectively harmed the community, for reasons that were none other than for selfish personal gain. Your first reaction to this person being removed from the community was suggesting something that would objectively harm both the forum and the bitcoin ecosystem. And your rationale for allowing him to come back were summed up as being he was still alive and he conducted business with you.

QS Isn't going to go around meriting posts that don't desetve it nor is he going to send 50 to a ton of people


He should be a merit source.

Thank you sir!

The basis for my claim is your history of suckpuppeting and lying.

It seems you are unable to back up your suggestion. This makes me believe your prior statements (and others in this thread) were politically motivated, with the hope of gaining influence/power. On its face, your various stats may indicate you are a helpful forum member, however to anyone who is paying close attention, you are a toxic person, and should be avoided.

This is an example of a post being given merit for political reasons by a merit source.

edit: I have a long history of finding those who make "objectively high quality posts" that extend well before the merit system as I advertised my own business via a signature campaign that I ran personally, and those that participated generally ended up making objectively good posts during the specific duration the campaign was running.

[FFrankie]

And to be realistic, QS has gotta be one of the most security/private orientated person on this fourm,

I can't see him actually managing that many alts, because signature campaigns aren't paying that much in btc. There are users in the collectible subfourm. That have ADMITTED to using 20+alts at one time just to farm signature campaigns but stopped because the signature campaigns don't pay a lot in btc. I'm not going to name any names.

You think QS has the time to log into a VPN, just to make a post that will net him like 10 cents? And than log out and do it 20 different times. Come on. And than use 20 different wallets to receive the bitcoins because he would never let his alts be linked together from bitcoin addresses posted since he is amazing at analxiying blockchain transactions

His posts are quality regardless he wouldn't need to give himself merit on his alts because his posts actually earn merit

 

[Lauda]

You think QS has the time to log into a VPN, just to make a post that will net him like 10 cents?

Yes, that was exactly what he was stealing during his escrow shenanigans.

[hacker1001101001]

I think Quickseller is worthy of becoming a merit source.

He basically has grasp of all things going around here and is surfing on the forum more than we could imagine if seen.

He could actually find a lot of merit worthy posts in this hunt which most of the current merit sources rarely notice on average.

And as there are already some cases of theymos undoing merit transactions and removing merit source power from abusing individual we should probably give him a chance I think.

[Vod]

we should probably give him a chance I think.

You mean second chance.  I'd say no - he still is claiming he never scammed anybody.  :/

He's already shown in this thread he responds well to posts that stroke his ego, while ignoring other posts completely.

It's completely logical that he would use his merit source to rank up alts for profit.

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

For someone who's a strong critic of the system and member who oversees the affairs of running that system which includes theymos himself (admin), moderators and merit sources. it's quite surprising seeing you applying to work for that system.

There's nothing surprising. Use your head. He needs a stream of merit to get himself and his alts into DT.

If he had that in mind I'm sure he would had done it quietly with the 400+ merits he has earned. If I'm not mistaking you need to have earned just 10merits to be eligible to vote that means with his 400+ earned merits he would had done that long ago and don't forget current DT members and other forum members have the power to prevent him from been eligible to be a DT member by detrusting him (if that's you fear).. It'll be kinda fun watching how the politics will play out if he's finally appointed a source because with him on board there'll always be some disagreement (drama).

[TheNewAnon135246]

Quickseller, you are a proven scammer.  Other's business practices are irrelevant to the conversation of whether you should be trusted as a merit source.  

Your post lacks evidence, is libelous and was disproven in my previous response to you.

TMAN was also part of at least one extortion attempt that was unsuccessful, and who knows how many that has been successful.

 

[Quickseller]

Quickseller, you are a proven scammer.  Other's business practices are irrelevant to the conversation of whether you should be trusted as a merit source. 

Your post lacks evidence, is libelous and was disproven in my previous response to you.

TMAN was also part of at least one extortion attempt that was unsuccessful, and who knows how many that has been successful.

 

Very few criminals will do something only one time. The overwhelming majority of criminals are repeat offenders. A successful extortion will, by definition be kept private. 

[cryptohunter]

Even though I see that QS has started claiming I of all persons am an unproductive member I will support his merit source application.  The reason being the merit merry go round colluding DT group do NOT want him in DT.  

These broken systems of control need to have opposing factions to keep them in order and prevent this board becoming an echo chamber.

All this fuss about him self escrowing is NOTHING compared to what others have tried here. Let's be honest to even be a DT or merit source you need to have done something scammy or support their scammy actions. So trying to prevent him on this basis is laughable.

That theymos made tman a merit source says it all.... ANYONE can be a merit source in that case. That person is observably stupid, runs if you ask him to provide any examples of his original thought inspiring posts and is guilty of many untrustworthy deeds and actions. How long has that miscreant been a merit source?
  
QS has some critical reasoning skills and makes the odd mistake (like he did by saying my post theymos deleted was irrelevant and off topic when clearly it was not and nobody would even dare debate it with me) but the majority of his posts seem far more logical and clear minded than most others who are merit sources and DT (not difficult). Some of those do not even have the capacity to recognise a valuable post from a net negative piece of trash hence giving them merits to splash just creates a misleading system on top of it being a dangerous system.

The more merit sources the better really, these broken systems will stay broken and free speech vulnerable until the colluding group have a serious bit of opposition. The systems MAY improve long term when there are enough DT's that total collusion is impossible to maintain.

That is my reasoning for supporting his application. I would say all legends should auto become merit sources anyway unless extremely inappropriate... but given the fact tman is merit source then.......

[TMAN]

OG/QS/CH, seems like the fan club is growing..   

TMANFANS... just a shame I don’t give a fuck about the members, sounds like another club I know