Yobit spam on the forum

[marcotheminer]

It's easy to nail/ban these users, they seek the threads that are easy-to-reply-to and can simply give a shallow opinion that contributes (read: "contributes"). I feel those "Is Bitcoin going to be used in 10 years?" threads are the hotspots or even made by people to allow these random "discussions".. It's the allure of getting quick cash for non-work that keeps it going, and those in less-than-ideal-income countries do it much more willingly/will continue even after it fries your brain for just typing nonsense all day..

Now we haven't even talked about the new IEO products they're offering. They switched from Pump&Dump ICO's to IEO's, which are basically an even bigger sack of horseshit (or simply renamed?). https://yobit.net/en/ico/timer/

They are conducting IEO for coins that do not exist - it's not a project. They make a paid "SHROOM" let's say, and that's it, new coin added. It's to generate profit for those who get in early - a kind of gambling game. It can be profitable or very taxing. I guess nothing wrong with that and up to each use to play their part or avoid it.

Mind you, this is a quote from someone that actively participates in them. (And even he can't make it sound like anything but a huge freaking scam..) they don't even offer any product at all to their users...? (Which is somewhat the case with ICO's, you get a withdrawable token, (which is usually not worth shit either, but still.))

It's pretty clear that they are non-tokens and purely a gambling game of "get in/get out". It's not a ponzi though, but "hoping someone else buys at a higher price than you did" game. This is what Crypto allows and it only continues to exists because people are tempted/ready to play/gamble.

Exactly, the same opinion must be applied to nearly every single ICO that has existed that was a "utility" token. We're in the midst of a bubble, most things/most people are out-of-touch with reality. Like what the fuck is BNB? What the fuck is Litecoin even? Bitcoin/Ethereum/maybe 5 other systems (DAI/Maker? Gemini dollar? 0x?  Mana?) I would argue are the only systems that matter until *new* systems (not just replicated) come along. Even then - Bitcoin is the other thing that seems like it can really stick around (everything else can be merged into it AFAIK.. Layer 1 (instant payments), Layer 2 (computing layer), Layer 3 (), etc..).

Then we can apply all this logic to the "real world", and realise everything is bullshit too. Apple, Amazon, Google stock? What do you actually own.. Nothing.. It's for the (hopeful) price rises - well, actually dividends of their profits too sometimes. Crypto is just another way of someone/something out there rushing to print a shit ton and get real tangible assets ASAP. Crypto is crazy if you think about the implications/what it reveals..

EDIT: Sorry for tangent, but all of this is very exciting/confusing/out of whack.. and I believe for most people..

[o_e_l_e_o]

You might as well ignore this unless things change and the admins start enforcing those guidelines, but if we do nothing then campaigns like Yobit will take advantage of that.

I understand that, but what I don't understand is why. We already have a framework of rules in place for dealing with this. Everyone who isn't a spammer is essentially unanimous that this kind of behavior is unacceptable and should be condemned. There are entire boards which are essentially unusable because of bounty spam (not just talking about YoBit here). And yet, as you say, it's left to users to report and mods to delete and do these managers' work for them. We are tinkering around the edges banning the odd spammer here and there, whilst not dealing with the larger issue at hand. It's like trying to stop a ship from sinking by scooping out the water with bucket, while ignoring the gaping hole that is letting water in 5x faster.

We need to start enforcing the rules in that stickied thread. If we aren't going to do that, then there is barely any point discussing every spam filled campaign like that one that comes along. Even if we got every user in it banned, 100 more would have joined by tomorrow, and 10 new spam campaigns would have popped up too.

[seoincorporation]

The wired thing about this campaign is it doesn't have limit of participants, and i thing that's the real spam source. Each day more user will join to that campaign because the pay rate isn't bad at all, but 20 daily posts mean 140 post/week, and at the end is in our hands to report the spammers and in hands of the mods to ban those users.

[tbct_mt2]

There is no limit of participants, there is no confirmation of acceptance to join, there is no manager. Simply wearing signature and start posting.

The wired thing about this campaign is it doesn't have limit of participants, and i thing that's the real spam source.

That said, I worry that this is not what a lot of current Yobit campaign participants are going to do.

I saw a lots of their supporters published one line shit posts, so your assumption  might likely right.
Someone who have AI skills, can you do it for fun.

The goal is >100 within the hour. I think it's possible.This is inspired by the new YoBit campaign which will bring forth a wave of spam. Only Moses can save us now.

Even when you can do it, I don't think you should do it. Instead, if you can, you should scrap data to count how many posts published by Yobit supporters are one line shit posts, and how many percentage one line shit posts per total posts published by Yobit supporters.

[coin-investor]

the rate is very interesting for a hero member like me, but I prefer to stay in my current signature campaign because I believe my current one is a long term campaign, some of my colleagues in Stake.com are now with Yobit, but that's not a problem as long as they are not spamming, it used to be Stake now it's Yobit 

[webmir]

If a member makes spam, he/she should of course be banned. But it is wrong to look at the person wearing this signature as a spammer. You can't label everyone like this. Spammers are followed and made necessary operation.
But I have to say that yobit's campaign should be organized. The weekly message limit must be set. It's encouraging for spam to make payments to 20 messages per day.

1. The script has a daily limit for the payment of messages.
2.  Yobit will bring order. It is unprofitable for them to pay scam.

[stompix]

The wired thing about this campaign is it doesn't have limit of participants, and i thing that's the real spam source. Each day more user will join to that campaign because the pay rate isn't bad at all, but 20 daily posts mean 140 post/week, and at the end is in our hands to report the spammers and in hands of the mods to ban those users.

Not weird and I'm 100% they've thought of that.

An avalanche of members will join their campaign and if it's too much to pay and no immediate results they will trim it themselves.
Besides, by not going the normal route of confirming participants, you get spammers with thousands of posts making 100 posts a week and wearing your signature for free as after a week you can simply deny them payments:P.

A lot will not get paid, they have nowhere to complain cause if they do around here nobody will take a spammer's side.

ps.
I'm pretty sure that how much trading you do on yobit will have a huge say on the chances of getting paid

[webmir]

The wired thing about this campaign is it doesn't have limit of participants, and i thing that's the real spam source. Each day more user will join to that campaign because the pay rate isn't bad at all, but 20 daily posts mean 140 post/week, and at the end is in our hands to report the spammers and in hands of the mods to ban those users.

Not weird and I'm 100% they've thought of that.

An avalanche of members will join their campaign and if it's too much to pay and no immediate results they will trim it themselves.
Besides, by not going the normal route of confirming participants, you get spammers with thousands of posts making 100 posts a week and wearing your signature for free as after a week you can simply deny them payments:P.

A lot will not get paid, they have nowhere to complain cause if they do around here nobody will take a spammer's side.

ps.
I'm pretty sure that how much trading you do on yobit will have a huge say on the chances of getting paid

Is there a limit of posts per day total ...
And probably there is a limit to the participants.

Plus, local forum branches are not paid.

[rocku12345]

If a member makes spam, he/she should of course be banned. But it is wrong to look at the person wearing this signature as a spammer. You can't label everyone like this. Spammers are followed and made necessary operation.
But I have to say that yobit's campaign should be organized. The weekly message limit must be set. It's encouraging for spam to make payments to 20 messages per day.

Right in this topic it is going to appear some spam. For the start admins should manage some definite rules of what the spam is and how to make posts avoiding it.  As for me I also don`t like to see a lot of messages with almost the same sense in them. If we don`t have such rules, then prepare to read between the lines. 

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Here's a gem of an example of the new Yobit spammers:

Did you mining in Pakistan ? I mis under stood ?  did you earn good mining did ?

This is why that campaign really needs to be managed by someone with an iron fist, because currently their criteria for acceptance is just way too lax.  I did not report the above post, but I'm going to go back and do it.  Jesus.

[sonerbo]

Here's a gem of an example of the new Yobit spammers:

Did you mining in Pakistan ? I mis under stood ?  did you earn good mining did ?

This is why that campaign really needs to be managed by someone with an iron fist, because currently their criteria for acceptance is just way too lax.  I did not report the above post, but I'm going to go back and do it.  Jesus.

@mtmitat is learning english I think Let the people make money guys. Bitcointalk is the symbol of freedom. You can swear you can tell what ever you think. There is a ignore button you can use it. But for just wearing a signature no one can be banned. Then you must ban who wears red pants or who smokes while having shit...

[Mulann2]

Here's a gem of an example of the new Yobit spammers:

Did you mining in Pakistan ? I mis under stood ?  did you earn good mining did ?

This is why that campaign really needs to be managed by someone with an iron fist, because currently their criteria for acceptance is just way too lax.  I did not report the above post, but I'm going to go back and do it.  Jesus.

The below is the campaign rule for the yobit signature and judging from the tone of it, i doubt post like that will get any payment, you should read through

★☆★ Rules ★☆★

Poor quality and unconstructive posts will not be tolerated on this campaign. You don't need to write an essay with each post but one word replies in spammy off topic threads or streams of constant half-assed one liners will immediately get you removed. Please just put some effort in to your posts and you'll be fine.

Users with negative feedback from defaulttrust members are no longer permitted on the campaign. If you sign up you will be removed.

Any user who hasn't made a post in over a month will also be removed.

i hope this will answer some of the criticism of this campaign, at least this shows that the team are aware of what will happen if some level of strictness are not applied to reduce irrelevant one line post.

[marlboroza]

Forum will be filled with spam.

And usually it isn't?

legendary users start writing idiotic posts.
if you do not take action, spam will be even more

Go and report spam, moderator will take action.

The below is the campaign rule for the yobit signature and judging from the tone of it, i doubt post like that will get any payment

Do you think users are posting one liners because they are not getting payed for it? 

Here's a gem of an example of the new Yobit spammers:

Did you mining in Pakistan ? I mis under stood ?  did you earn good mining did ?

9 seconds https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5133932.msg50693824#msg50693824 What are the odds...

[o_e_l_e_o]

Let the people make money guys.

No.

Whole sections of the forum are unusable because of people trying to make a quick buck by churning out any old nonsense. The forum was created to discuss bitcoin - some users being paid to post should be a byproduct of their desire to be here and discuss bitcoin, and not the other way around, with users discussing bitcoin simply as a means to being paid.

However, if your attempts to make money conflict with the forum's primary goal of enabling discussion, then you are swimming upstream, and you will not be sucessful in the end.

If you view the forum as some sort of "job" where you complete some basic tasks and get paid, then you will almost certainly be disappointed, and the forum administration will not be sympathetic.

If you want to make money, go and get a job.

[sonerbo]

Let the people make money guys.

No.

Whole sections of the forum are unusable because of people trying to make a quick buck by churning out any old nonsense. The forum was created to discuss bitcoin - some users being paid to post should be a byproduct of their desire to be here and discuss bitcoin, and not the other way around, with users discussing bitcoin simply as a means to being paid.

However, if your attempts to make money conflict with the forum's primary goal of enabling discussion, then you are swimming upstream, and you will not be sucessful in the end.

If you view the forum as some sort of "job" where you complete some basic tasks and get paid, then you will almost certainly be disappointed, and the forum administration will not be sympathetic.

If you want to make money, go and get a job.

Hey while you are wearing a signature what the ever you say doesn't makes any sense. if you are looking like this then you are fucking Spamming  here. There are lots of sig camp with twitter facebook and lots of shit reports. They are hundreds of page and thousands of posts. Arent they spam ??

[Lafu]

If you want to make money, go and get a job.

Exactly , the Forum wasnt created for make money !

Guess the half of the spammers dont know realy about Bitcoin and Blockchain , possible they dont know whats sha256 is .  

Anyway just keep reporting if you think the post is spam , Click that nice button !

Hey while you are wearing a signature what the ever you say doesn't makes any sense. if you are looking like this then you are fucking Spamming  here. There are lots of sig camp with twitter facebook and lots of shit reports. They are hundreds of page and thousands of posts. Arent they spam ??

It makes some difference if you post some good stuff and normal or just post so some shit to get you post count for the sig. !

[o_e_l_e_o]

Hey while you are wearing a signature what the ever you say doesn't makes any sense. if you are looking like this then you are fucking Spamming  here.

There is a massive difference between constructive posts which happen to be appended by a signature, and spamming solely for the purpose of reaching a post quote for a signature campaign. It seems that the majority of those signed up to YoBit not only fall decisively in the latter of those categories, but also struggle to tell the difference between the two categories to begin with.

Please compare mtmitat's posting history to the posting history of anybody wearing the ChipMixer signature for a perfect example of what I'm talking about.

[LoyceMobile]

So many high ranking users who I've never seen before suddenly pop up all over the place.
Account farmers from back in the days are just waiting for an opportunity to turn all those idle accounts into a profit.

[Mulann2]

Let the people make money guys.

No.

Whole sections of the forum are unusable because of people trying to make a quick buck by churning out any old nonsense. The forum was created to discuss bitcoin - some users being paid to post should be a byproduct of their desire to be here and discuss bitcoin, and not the other way around, with users discussing bitcoin simply as a means to being paid.

However, if your attempts to make money conflict with the forum's primary goal of enabling discussion, then you are swimming upstream, and you will not be sucessful in the end.

If you view the forum as some sort of "job" where you complete some basic tasks and get paid, then you will almost certainly be disappointed, and the forum administration will not be sympathetic.

If you want to make money, go and get a job.

Hey while you are wearing a signature what the ever you say doesn't makes any sense. if you are looking like this then you are fucking Spamming  here. There are lots of sig camp with twitter facebook and lots of shit reports. They are hundreds of page and thousands of posts. Arent they spam ??

lol! let him be, he is a holy man with no shit post background his resume are clean ready to take on the job of General Overseer of the Bitcointalk Forum, i hope the position meet him in good condition of health and suit perfectly, phew! too many ITK here that the air is so thin and very hard to breath
i wonder what whole section is unusable that General Overseer is finding it difficult to use? is he planning to wright a documentary about "shit posters"  that he discover the remaining space on that section won't be enough for him to post?
i guess the forum needs to create more space,    uhhm, where are the mods, your attention is needed here

[sonerbo]

Hey while you are wearing a signature what the ever you say doesn't makes any sense. if you are looking like this then you are fucking Spamming  here.

There is a massive difference between constructive posts which happen to be appended by a signature, and spamming solely for the purpose of reaching a post quote for a signature campaign. It seems that the majority of those signed up to YoBit not only fall decisively in the latter of those categories, but also struggle to tell the difference between the two categories to begin with.

Please compare mtmitat's posting history to the posting history of anybody wearing the ChipMixer signature for a perfect example of what I'm talking about.

I am totally agree with you about spamming and the people just posting to reach the goal of campaign. yes ı checked his posts before your suggest and also ı wrote in local with quote of his post. I told be careful about your English post. Anyway my last words are this forum is symbol of freedom for me and you can not ban or give negatif trust to anybody for his/her signature.  Have a good day ! Enjoy your time !