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April 21, 2019, 10:03:30 PM
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Hello There Bitcoin Talk Community
I am not going to talk too much, but here's the story.
I found yobit signature compaign and joined them. I didn't do anything else but just monetised my good-quality posts.
I even seen that Yahoo- that famous bounty manager were going to moderate the bounty if the yobit team offers him the job.. also some well-known DT members said that wearing the signature will not be a problem as long as we are posting good content.
Now i found some "Animals" trying to play with my trust here, just because i wear the signature..
Look at them:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=841288
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=885996
I don't know them and did never speak to them, but they look just like small kids playing with peoples accounts, they are even tagged as "Trolls" and Dishonest guys.. and they just came to my profile to make it look red.. I think that a DT member should stop these kids from marking my account with a neg. feedback.
The Yobit Compaign was accepted by the community and alot of peoples used  the signature, but these two kids just came to me trying to destroy my trust .
What do you think guys?

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If you focus on their trust system, you'll findout that they were exchanging Positive feedbacks and they were attacking members together.. That's shady and dishonest.. they are tagged as Trolls and dishonest guys..
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April 21, 2019, 10:05:42 PM
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Trust feedbacks are unmoderated and DT members have no control over what feedback is left. They have every right to not trust people who are promoting a possibly scam exchange, just like how you have the right to believe they are dishonest for tagging people wearing a Yobit signature.

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April 21, 2019, 10:07:47 PM
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Trust feedbacks are unmoderated and DT members have no control over what feedback is left. They have every right to not trust people who are promoting a possibly scam exchange.
Hey there DarkStar,
What about exchanging Positive feedbacks? Is it normal? They are attacking peoples together and they are also dishonest.
What about that? does that make them trusted enough to judge peoples?
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April 21, 2019, 10:12:01 PM
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Trust feedbacks are unmoderated and DT members have no control over what feedback is left. They have every right to not trust people who are promoting a possibly scam exchange.
Hey there DarkStar,
What about exchanging Positive feedbacks? Is it normal? They are attacking peoples together and they are also dishonest.
What about that? does that make them trusted enough to judge peoples?

You believe they are untrustworthy for leaving each other a trust feedback in 2017 and because they don't trust Yobit.

They believe you are untrustworthy for promoting what is possibly a scam.

Why are your opinions more valid than their opinions?

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April 21, 2019, 10:16:51 PM
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Trust feedbacks are unmoderated and DT members have no control over what feedback is left. They have every right to not trust people who are promoting a possibly scam exchange.

Well, it's kind of invalidating the trust system, now you never know if someone was tagged cause they were an actual scammer or if it's just because of a silly signature they decided to wear. Everything is "possibly a scam" anyways, it's cryptocurrency and there is no course of legal action of responsibility.

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April 21, 2019, 10:19:55 PM
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Trust feedbacks are unmoderated and DT members have no control over what feedback is left. They have every right to not trust people who are promoting a possibly scam exchange.
Hey there DarkStar,
What about exchanging Positive feedbacks? Is it normal? They are attacking peoples together and they are also dishonest.
What about that? does that make them trusted enough to judge peoples?

You believe they are untrustworthy for leaving each other a trust feedback in 2017 and because they don't trust Yobit.

They believe you are untrustworthy for promoting what is possibly a scam.

Why are your opinions more valid than their opinions?

Because i already asked if it will be safe to wear the signature or not, if it was prohibited by any DT member, then i would immediately stop using it. I am not the Bad guy, at least not in this story Mr DarkStar, but, tagging me just like that is non logical, one of the two guys is wearing a personal text saying "Always Ask Questions'' But why didn't him ask me some questions? what happened to them?
I am not the only guy here wearing it, they have a problem against yobit which is their own problem because if i got scammed before by yobit, i would never wear the signature but i used them frequently in the past and all my orders were smooth! I don't know how they just come and start accusing peoples just like that.
If they want to destroy my beloved account they are free, Nobody could stop them, I would shut down my pc and walk away.
If peoples continue doing these child mouvements, BitcoinTalk will be destroyed.
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April 21, 2019, 10:21:47 PM
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Trust feedbacks are unmoderated and DT members have no control over what feedback is left. They have every right to not trust people who are promoting a possibly scam exchange.

Well, it's kind of invalidating the trust system, now you never know if someone was tagged cause they were an actual scammer or if it's just because of a silly signature they decided to wear. Everything is "possibly a scam" anyways, it's cryptocurrency and there is no course of legal action of responsibility.

If only there was a way where you could see why someone left the trust feedback...

Just put ~blurryeyed and ~IconFirm in your trust list if you disagree with their feedback and it won't ever show up by default for you.

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April 21, 2019, 10:26:33 PM
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I think it's no big deal.
I mean they are not on DT so that shouldn't get you so worried.

We have seen scenarios where people have made retaliatory feedback, but they have never been put to spotlight for it so it should not make you loose your mind.
I personally wouldn't care about untrusted ratings

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April 21, 2019, 10:31:03 PM
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I think it's no big deal.
I mean they are not on DT so that shouldn't get you so worried.

We have seen scenarios where people have made retaliatory feedback, but they have never been put to spotlight for it so it should not make you lose your mind.
I personally wouldn't care about untrusted ratings

I know @Bitcoin_Arena Smiley
Thanks for the kind words ^_^
But, they would act like "Animals in jungle" .. Attacking peoples just like that is a bad behaviour and they should be stopped.
I followed the tips of DT members when they said that wearing the sig is safe but the only problem is the Spamming.. So i was doing the normal thing here but these "Parasites" are just trying to make this day a nightmare.
I won't care about them, i already put a red-tag on them as they did to me and it is allright! we still have the smile upon our faces. Tongue
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April 21, 2019, 10:33:58 PM
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From what I can see you've been tagged by untrusted feedback. The only trusted feedback I see is from Marlboroza, which is neutral. I don't have default trust in my list but it appears they aren't on it. (see above)

You just have to accept it. I don't believe any DT members are tagging the Yobit campaign. I don't think any would remain on DT long if they did. Things could change in the future, but that depends on how Yobit handles their scam accusations and what not. Until they are a proven scam you will be fine, no sense speculating on the future.

For now just don't worry about it. Fun note the only trusted feedback I get on the 2 users says they were alts.

I won't care about them, i already put a red-tag on them as they did to me and it is allright! we still have the smile upon our faces. Tongue

Retaliatory feedback does nothing, but make your feedback look suspect. May I suggest instead leaving them neutral feedback. Either way you may leave feedback as you see fit.

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April 21, 2019, 10:38:14 PM
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Trust is completely subjective and, for better or worse, not moderated... People are free to "trust" you (or not) based on pretty much anything they like... Your username, your actions, how much you post, account sales, what day of the week it is... Undecided

He doesn't trust yobit, you are advertising yobit, ergo he doesn't trust you. Just because you don't consider "yobit is a scam" to be a logical reason, doesn't mean they don't.

In any case, neither of those users is on DT as far as I can tell... Their feedback is not shown by default, and doesn't affect your "score".

I won't care about them, i already put a red-tag on them as they did to me and it is allright! we still have the smile upon our faces.
IMO, leaving retaliatory feedback is probably more "trust abuse" than what these users have done...

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April 21, 2019, 10:40:56 PM
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Retaliatory feedback does nothing, but make your feedback look suspect. May I suggest instead leaving them neutral feedback. Either way you may leave feedback as you see fit.
Agree, and I would say that he shouldn't even leave a neutral.  Those two members who I don't recognize obviously have hard feelings toward Yobit, so they're voicing their opinions on people who are advertising for them.  I don't agree with such feedback, but they aren't on DT and they have a right to neg someone for whatever reason--and there's nothing anyone can do anyway.

Wow.  I would not have thought that Yobit bringing back its signature campaign would have stirred up so much controversy.  Yahoo62278, are you there?  lol

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April 21, 2019, 10:46:34 PM
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Agree, and I would say that he shouldn't even leave a neutral.  Those two members who I don't recognize obviously have hard feelings toward Yobit, so they're voicing their opinions on people who are advertising for them.  I don't agree with such feedback, but they aren't on DT and they have a right to neg someone for whatever reason--and there's nothing anyone can do anyway.

Wow.  I would not have thought that Yobit bringing back its signature campaign would have stirred up so much controversy.  Yahoo62278, are you there?  lol

Agreed. I just assumed that he was set on leaving feedback, and hadn't checked what he left yet. When I suggest leaving a neutral it's for something along the lines of " I do not trust this users feedback" or something along those lines.

It has bee a couple of crazy days, combine that with me reading back through someones post history to the day I joined, I feel a little sucked into discussions lately. Yahoo did just lock that topic, I wonder if he got an offer.

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April 21, 2019, 10:50:40 PM
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Thanks for clearing the Non-Clear stuffs our beloved DT-Members  Cool .
I have revised my feedbacks into Neutral, i don't want to be a "Trust abuser" but i got a little bit nervous because of them Smiley It's all right and they are free to do whatever they think is right Smiley
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April 21, 2019, 10:56:30 PM
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OP was barely posting once a day prior to the Yobit campaign. Now we're facing 20+ posts of mind-numbing garbage, as is the case with many Yobit shitposters.

That doesn't call for red trust but it calls for "ignore" and/or "report to moderator". Let's not help them meet their quota by replying to their feigned outrage threads. Yes, I'm aware of the irony, TYVM.

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April 21, 2019, 11:09:41 PM
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Some DTs have warned that promoting a scam exchange can lead to red trust.

LoyceClubArchive https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=939458 > arrived: http://loyce.club/archive/trust_939458_2019-04-22_Mon_01.09h.html

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April 22, 2019, 10:05:51 AM
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I'm just going to leave this here;

If we had a better chance, we would really join other compaigns for sure. Yobit having scam accusations didn't mean that they are really scammer.. Maybe they use '' selective scam '' but the scammed person's should shout out loud so we can hear them.. We never encourage scam and we never want to destroy our beloved Bitcointalk.. Even if I post 50 posts a day, I won't spam the forum and I will try my best to provide a good content here.. Just give us a chance to use their signature for the moment and if the other sig compaigns allows us to join and earn.. We would support em.. But many compaigns are providing unreal requirements.. We always put high efforts but no one ever gave us even 1 merit.(excuse me for being angry).. How the hell could us join good compaigns if they are putting hard requirements?.[/b]
We found out that Yobit's sig compaign is the only one gaving us that rate so we will wear the signature and support them because it's a win-win for us and for them. When talking about the fear of spamming the forum, the DT members could red-tag all the spammers if found.

Knowingly advertising a service that you know is questionable;


I didn't get scammed before by Yobit.. The Accusation threads are not a proof unless the persons are really scammed and prove that. I relied on my own experience with them and i didn't get scammed, is that hard?
I don't even try to make their faces look like angels! I don't know how to respond to a person like you who's asking alot of questions..
Peoples aren't forced to signup into Yobit, even if somebody finds the link in one of the signatures, a research is a must! as you know: ''The law does not protect the dupes" ... I mean, i don't force peoples to join yobit.. And even peoples must make a research..if they do, they will findout about the issues and they are free to risk their funds and signup or to just walk away.. Don't try to make us responsible for the people's issues.. They trusted a platform which has an unknown owner.. and you still talking? -_-

Even some DT members had an experience with Yobit Signature, why did you just ask the DT members to Redtag us all?
Any solid proof you got there? because i only can see some comments on twitter but i didn't found like something that really makes the platform guilty .. and Again! I am not defending them and i only had like one day with them in the signature, i'll wait for the DT Members to annonce what they will do for the persons who joined the signature compaign.. if they asks us to remove the signature, we will remove it.


If peoples continue doing these child mouvements, BitcoinTalk will be destroyed.
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April 25, 2019, 06:21:13 PM
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Now i found some "Animals" trying to play with my trust here, just because i wear the signature.

Animals?  Well, I can only speak for myself of course & I'm no animal, neither am I a "small kid".  I have always tagged scams along with those that promote them, as do many other responsible forum members, some of whom have also left me positive feedback for doing so - & I can assure you I'm not them either....

A side affect of this of course is that I get a lot of negative feedback from the neg'd scammers & scam promoters, but that's OK, I can live with that. I certainly wouldn't dream of making a cry-baby thread about it. Some of the accounts I tagged for promoting the Yobit scam later contacted me by PM letting me know that they had removed themselves from the Yobit campaign after doing some research, one of them was a well known legendary member who told me that I was correct in my actions, asking me if I would now remove the negative feedback - which I was happy to do. So, not only does it work, it can also be reversed - but this cry-baby thread is not the way to do it.

You are free to prostitute your profile for a few satoshi by promoting scams, just as others are free to not trust you for doing so.

Edit: Thanks to those in this thread who understand my stance & understand how the trust system works.

Warning: Beaxy exchange is lying & refusing to answer questions - BEWARE!!  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2912122.msg50692375#msg50692375   Funniest/stupidest shit list thread ever:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1064824.msg20344174#msg20344174   The ultimate example of trust abuse by exposed scammer craslovell...
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