Why you should be careful before joining a signature campaign?

[TalkStar]

Hello Everyone,

Welcome to my thread. Today I am going to discuss about an matter which is really important for forum members IMO. As we all know that we have the opportunity to earn through signature campaign from this forum. Many of us have vast experience to work with several signature campaigns before. Its a way how worldwide crypto entrepreneurs advertise & promote themselves on bitcointalk.

Currently multiple signature campaigns are going on this forum and they have got enough responses from our community to continue their campaign. But recently an signature campaign called "Yobit.net" have rise huge ammount of spamming on our forum and our honorable forum admin theymos have taken appropriate actions against them. Here it is :

129 users who were wearing a yobit signature and had at least 1 good report against them in the last 14 days are banned for 14 days. All yobit signatures are wiped. Signatures containing "yobit.net" are banned for 60 days.

Some people were talking about neg-trusting spammers for spamming. This is not appropriate; report the posts, and if that doesn't seem to be working well, come to Meta with specific examples and suggestions.

Important things to follow:

I think its really important for us to follow some things before joining a new signature campaign. If you don't be careful enough before joining a new signature then same things what happened with yobit signature participants could be happened with you too.

Before joining a new signature campaign please feel it necessary to click below link and read those guidelines carefully;
Signature Campaign Guidelines

You can also maintain couple of things before starting a new signature. Such as;

1. Read terms and conditions of a signature campaign before joining it. If you find something that may violate our forum rules then avoid it.

2. Read their post counting system. If you find that they are accepting or encouraging to make big number of posts in a single day and then its easy to detect that they are encouraging participants on spamming.  

3. Investigate properly about the existing signature campaign projects background before starting as a participant.

4. Don't run only for high payments. Some campaigns don't bother about forum rules where they just want you to do big number of posts by a offering good amount.


Finally I want to tell everyone that discussion is the main purpose of using this forum and earning from signatures is the optional thing IMO. So its really urgent for us to think about our own forum account rather than participating this kind of signatures who encourage their participants for spamming.

[logfiles]

I think we already have so much of this type of topics already discussed lately here:

• {Facts} Disadvantage of promoting signature campaigns that encourages spamming.
• Factors to consider before joining a paid signature campaigns.
• Benefits of promoting a quality paid signature campaign

[manfredmann]

I think we already have so much of this type of topics already discussed lately here:

• {Facts} Disadvantage of promoting signature campaigns that encourages spamming.
• Factors to consider before joining a paid signature campaigns.
• Benefits of promoting a quality paid signature campaign

Just let it be. anyway the post were already burried dow. and you need to search for it of one is looking for a thread.

However, it is still good to keep all the users to be aware of the activities of the forum. There are newbies also reading the OP'S post and thinking very essential to all newbie.

[okala]

I think we already have so much of this type of topics already discussed lately here:

• {Facts} Disadvantage of promoting signature campaigns that encourages spamming.
• Factors to consider before joining a paid signature campaigns.
• Benefits of promoting a quality paid signature campaign

Just let it be. anyway the post were already burried dow. and you need to search for it of one is looking for a thread.

However, it is still good to keep all the users to be aware of the activities of the forum. There are newbies also reading the OP'S post and thinking very essential to all newbie.

Yes  I agree with this post will serve as a wake up call for all of us in the forum, we really need to keep our community clean which is why we have to read through signature campaign demands before enlisting in it, and if not until this post I was not aware that theymos have responded to the yobit campaign Sega.

[logfiles]

Just let it be. anyway the post were already burried dow. and you need to search for it of one is looking for a thread.

However, it is still good to keep all the users to be aware of the activities of the forum. There are newbies also reading the OP'S post and thinking very essential to all newbie.

The posts I am talking about are not buried and all are not more than a month old. Just check the first and second page of this board, you will find all of them there. No need to even use the search function.
And please, i have never been against keeping forum members aware of anything.

[Kavelj22]

OP actually talks about btc paied campaigns by clearly providing the example of recent Yobit.net signature campaign; those campaigns have been always carefully handled by forum community, as always managed by reputable experienced members.
I don't expect the Yobit campaign to take that bad turn (temp ban users and signatures) if it was controlled by a manager.

Yes it is a must, IMO for every user to follow the instruction list that OP mentioned + checking the manager post/trust history and if he wasn't accused to run a spam campaign. For many campaigns in the altcoin section, many managers belong to the ICO team, so it will be effecient to check the campaign project background before joining (not an easy task).

[madrogue]

I think this problem is in bounty hunters who wear yobit signature.
In their rules, it must Create constructive post and Max. 20 post per day.
So, it shouldn't make 20 post per day. And i see most of bounty hunters didn't read carefully about bounty rules.
I always see in Bounty thread, a Bounty is end but i see other bounty hunter still create bounty report.

[roosbit]

I think we already have so much of this type of topics already discussed lately here:

• {Facts} Disadvantage of promoting signature campaigns that encourages spamming.
• Factors to consider before joining a paid signature campaigns.
• Benefits of promoting a quality paid signature campaign

Just let it be. anyway the post were already burried dow. and you need to search for it of one is looking for a thread.
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Maybe a long term solution to avoid duplicate topics is to have threads pinned or make it a rule to search the forum before posting...whichever works

[Sharon121212]

I think we already have so much of this type of topics already discussed lately here:

• {Facts} Disadvantage of promoting signature campaigns that encourages spamming.
• Factors to consider before joining a paid signature campaigns.
• Benefits of promoting a quality paid signature campaign

I also thought as much the constant bringing up of this topic is making such a significant topic lose it value if you had anything to touch on as to this topic regards you can just post it on the already posted ones and still get views making a new post might be seen negatively. But still I must say it is quite a well written post

[Mux@]

I would like to add that in addition to compliance with these rules, you need to follow the topic every day, which describes the conditions of the subscription company. These conditions the organizers can change at any time, and all Your work will be ruined if You do not closely monitor the topic.

[LTU_btc]

Ok, another topic related to Yobit signature campaign. So, one point for discussion. I've been participant of Yobit campaign for long time. You're saying that this campaign encourage spam and I agree with you. But I'm not sure that's a reason to avoid this campaign. They aren't forcing you to make 20 posts/day. You simply can make 5/6 or just 1 posts per day and still get payment. It's not my business that others particpants are spamming hardly to reach biggest earnings. There is just one problem in this case - by wearing same signature as all these spammers you simply will be asociated with all these spammers.

[TeQuiero]

Ok, another topic related to Yobit signature campaign. So, one point for discussion. I've been participant of Yobit campaign for long time. You're saying that this campaign encourage spam and I agree with you. But I'm not sure that's a reason to avoid this campaign. <...>

I don't think the main reason behind Yobit campaign's punishment lie on its spamming encouragement. It involves shady behaviors of this exchange (if not scam):

I thought everybody knew that already?

Yobit scam ? Trade lost money
Yobit SCAM - SYSCOIN withdrawal
1000+ ETH blocked: Yobit.net won't explain or resolve
YOBIT scam - class action law suit
YoBit seems wants to steal my money. Are they scammed?
Scam market YObit.net and YObit.io
Yobit.Net Scamming My Deposit

And many more...

However, there's a fact that, a majority of sig campaigns out there are encouraging spam in some ways. They may not intend to cause spam but their participants do. Some quality campaigns require quality posts but they're not ideal for all ranks. This makes choosing a sig campaign a tricky task.

There is just one problem in this case - by wearing same signature as all these spammers you simply will be asociated with all these spammers.

That's right but by proving yourself on this forum, people will recognize you. I didn't see you wearing Yobit's signature but I can see you're a good poster.

[Siren]

Ok, another topic related to Yobit signature campaign. So, one point for discussion. I've been participant of Yobit campaign for long time. You're saying that this campaign encourage spam and I agree with you. But I'm not sure that's a reason to avoid this campaign. They aren't forcing you to make 20 posts/day. You simply can make 5/6 or just 1 posts per day and still get payment. It's not my business that others particpants are spamming hardly to reach biggest earnings. There is just one problem in this case - by wearing same signature as all these spammers you simply will be asociated with all these spammers.

I totally agreed with you mate since the issue shaken the whole community this past days because of what had Yobit company did

I can see that Yobit had just made a wrong decision by running the campaign again without hiring a Good manager and just let the Bot manage the campaign in this results to a mass spamming from all types of accounts,from negaive trusted to total shitposters(though I don’t consider my self as a good poster but i am trying my best to help in my own little ways)

To OP its good that topic like this has been brought again for the awareness of the applicants that might forget the forum rules or didn’t really know the rules from then.

[Crypto Girl]

Just let it be. anyway the post were already burried dow. and you need to search for it of one is looking for a thread.
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Maybe a long term solution to avoid duplicate topics is to have threads pinned or make it a rule to search the forum before posting...whichever works

Honestly, some really don't bother to use the search bar while pinning this isn't that appropriate.
As they say this is bad publicity for the company but hey we're actually giving them free advertisement for talking it too much and the company's name is all over the forum though of course everything is for everyone's awareness.

[LTU_btc]

I don't think the main reason behind Yobit campaign's punishment lie on its spamming encouragement. It involves shady behaviors of this exchange (if not scam):

You have a valid point, but I think that biggest problem of Yobit campaign was spam. I agree that Yobit don't have good reputation. But I've been in their campaign for years and nobody haven't complained, even DT members that it's not OK to advertise Yobit on Bitcointalk. Until the day when Yobit relaunched their campaign. Then lot of members started to talk that Yobit is shady exchange and some even suggested that campaign participants should be tagged.

[mikelsmith2020]

Another important thing to remember to users who wants to join signature campaign.

Not just be careful on joining a bounty because they might no going to reward you but BE RESPONSIBLE IN PROMOTING A SIGNATURE as a bounty participant we should be aware that we're promoting a legitimate project and that's why we should  study and learn what the project is all about, goals and how it works.

I've seen in other thread that most of the yobit promoters who joined their signature campaign gets banned (Not sure about it) since there's a long time issue about the yobit for scamming their traders.

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

I don't think the main reason behind Yobit campaign's punishment lie on its spamming encouragement. It involves shady behaviors of this exchange (if not scam):

I beg to differ, I believe it's more of the spamming than shady business, have you seen the statistics of the increase of posts (which most are spam) after the introduction of the signature? If I can recall clearly I read somewhere (tried retracing but can't find it) that yobit or any project are always welcome to advertise on the forum as far they don't or make their participants to break any forum rules (believing that statement was made by theymos himself)

[DdmrDdmr]

<…> I've seen in other thread that most of the yobit promoters who joined their signature campaign gets banned (Not sure about it) since there's a long time issue about the yobit for scamming their traders.

No really. Scams are not moderated and it is the forum members themselves that point them out through either scam accusations or leaving negative feedback on the profiles involved. Otherwise, tens of thousands of accounts would have been banned for wearing ICO signatures at some point that turned out to be blatant scams.

Yobit’s campaign issue was not running the campaign with a full board campaign manager, and not delimiting participation other than by rank. Even if they declared that the principal was that “poor quality and unconstructive posts will not be tolerated”, no campaign manager was ensuring it. With hundreds of users reported for spam, and over 129 of them rightfully so in just a few days, forum administration stepped in to avoid a flood of spam from this single campaign.

[TalkStar]

I beg to differ, I believe it's more of the spamming than shady business, have you seen the statistics of the increase of posts (which most are spam) after the introduction of the signature? If I can recall clearly I read somewhere (tried retracing but can't find it) that yobit or any project are always welcome to advertise on the forum as far they don't or make their participants to break any forum rules (believing that statement was made by theymos himself)

Committing spam or encouraging others to spam is likely same. Yobit applied this strategy with their participants to spread their name on forum massively. As a result participants started to run after high payments by doing big number of posts which was actually nothing but spamming. We can't put whole blame only on yobit where participants didn’t feel it necessary to know about guideline of signature campaign. Obviously who have joined their campaign should think about forum rules before starting to make low quality post just for counting.

As a forum member following forum rules and encouraging others to obey is the first responsibility for us. If we just think about earning but don't bother about our community then proper environment of discussion will be a rare thing very soon. Joining signature campaign is not a bad thing but if you get ban for doing a signature then obviously you should be careful to protect your account before joining. Its always a wise decission to join those signature campaigns who are really care about forum and its community.

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

Its always a wise decission to join those signature campaigns who are really care about forum and its community.

Exactly, that's why I took my time to compose this thread; Benefits of promoting a quality paid signature campaign and also give room for other forum members to add some benefits they have experience personally to give the newer users who might be interested in participating in a signature campaign in future a reason to do it right to enjoy the benefits listed there.

I get what your intentions was for your OP and I appreciate that although currently out of smerit so I'll highlight your post when i get some.