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April 29, 2019, 01:56:07 AM
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This has been tackled before and you can't stop those people to blame bounty hunters for their losses. They tend to blame anyone that they want because of the losses that they are already making. It's the sad truth that whenever something bad happens to you, you tend to blame someone with your misfortune. Yes, allocation with bounty hunters are too low to think that they are the reason and cause for a tokens dumping. The eye has been set for them and ignoring those developers that holds the largest allocation.

Basically, when thinking about the matter how they provide allocation for the bounty hunters, these allocation is not quite good enough to let the entire project to go down. So, If they are blaming the hunters, I think they are just somehow want someone to be blame and to pass the attention to when they are really the one incompetent.

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April 29, 2019, 06:20:10 AM
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People who blame bounty hunters in dump just want blame someone and don't want think about real reason of dumped. I believe a big bonuses on  private sell is a main reason why i should not invest in this project, because it will be dumped by private investors for sure, just after listing.

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April 29, 2019, 06:53:44 AM
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People need someone to blame. It's easier to blame bounty hunters than to analyze and understand the discounts provided during token sale and the amount of coin paid to the team. That's why I almost stopped participating in the bounty, the rewards are minimal, but at every step I hear the allegations that the hunters dumped the price.
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April 29, 2019, 08:36:21 AM
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I come across different posts and allegations that bounty hunters are dumpers and they make projects lose it value upon exchange listing. But from my experience with bounties most projects don't offer bounty allocation of more than 5% of the total token sold. So how will 5% dump have a huge effect on the remaining 95% price. And what about projects that don't have bounties but still dump hard on the exchange, is it bounty hunters too?
The bitter truth is that most projects dump because of the ridiculous number of bonuses the team have offered during the tokensale and pre-sale period. Imagine giving investors 70% bonus for their investments, they can decide to sell everything off and be happy with the 70% profit.


Indeed, 5% is impossible to turn the table around. Such percentage amount should not too affecting price of overall.
But normally, bounties are having reward pool around 1-2% only, so it will be more impossible for hunters to make the price dump.
There might be something wrong about the project, making the investors sold their tokens.

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April 29, 2019, 08:43:58 AM
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No team with capacity to sustain they coin will blame bounty hunter for dumping after ICO after all the bounty hunter worked for the rewards so at that they are at free will to do what ever they wish with they coins after ICO. Some team have what we call buy back mechanism because they want to avoid dump and sustainn they market value from dumpers. If a project have a good foundation with working product to support the token they will never be afraid of dump because they already have an existing ecosystem to back they coin up after listing into the exchange.
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April 29, 2019, 09:12:07 AM
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I come across different posts and allegations that bounty hunters are dumpers and they make projects lose it value upon exchange listing. But from my experience with bounties most projects don't offer bounty allocation of more than 5% of the total token sold. So how will 5% dump have a huge effect on the remaining 95% price. And what about projects that don't have bounties but still dump hard on the exchange, is it bounty hunters too?
The bitter truth is that most projects dump because of the ridiculous number of bonuses the team have offered during the tokensale and pre-sale period. Imagine giving investors 70% bonus for their investments, they can decide to sell everything off and be happy with the 70% profit.


Bounty hunters are made into scapegoats because they sell their tokens typically, but on the flipside they bring more brand awareness for projects. From what I gather, projects raising substantial sums tend to be less affected by bounty hunter selling. Perhaps the ability to withstand such selling is one way to gauge the overall strength of a project.
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April 29, 2019, 09:18:22 AM
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This has been tackled before and you can't stop those people to blame bounty hunters for their losses. They tend to blame anyone that they want because of the losses that they are already making. It's the sad truth that whenever something bad happens to you, you tend to blame someone with your misfortune. Yes, allocation with bounty hunters are too low to think that they are the reason and cause for a tokens dumping. The eye has been set for them and ignoring those developers that holds the largest allocation.
if calculated, the bounty hunter has an important role in changing the price of a coin. even if the total coins in circulation are so large in percentage. nothing can be blamed, this depends on the strategy of ourselves.
No one has to be blamed if its for the bounty hunters. Before I'm actually thinking that they really are moving the prices into the lowest whenever most of them starts to dump but hell no, the allocation made for them is around 1% of total supply or somewhere near that percentage. And I don't think that will actually hurt the market of that specific coin because of the bounty hunters.

Basically, when thinking about the matter how they provide allocation for the bounty hunters, these allocation is not quite good enough to let the entire project to go down. So, If they are blaming the hunters, I think they are just somehow want someone to be blame and to pass the attention to when they are really the one incompetent.
Yes. They are turning the attention into some other people to be blamed with.

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April 29, 2019, 10:02:43 AM
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It seems to me that it all understood long ago that bounty hunters aren't guilty of falling of the price.They have too small a volume of coins to drop the price.And then not all bounty hunters immediately sell their coins.Many have a long-term strategy.
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April 29, 2019, 10:18:45 AM
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It seems to me that it all understood long ago that bounty hunters aren't guilty of falling of the price.They have too small a volume of coins to drop the price.And then not all bounty hunters immediately sell their coins.Many have a long-term strategy.
Hard to disagree with this or with the OP. If any project manage to get $1 million in cash or BTC/ETH then they can make about 5% of free tokens to drop. But too often it is the early investors or shady developers dump the token as soon token hits the exchange. A few days ago I was waiting to see what would be the opening price of Terawatt's LED price on IDEX, then suddenly there was about 300k LED dumped on IDEX for about 0.3 ETH and bounty hunters still have not received their rewards.

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April 29, 2019, 11:16:26 AM
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It seems to me that it all understood long ago that bounty hunters aren't guilty of falling of the price.They have too small a volume of coins to drop the price.And then not all bounty hunters immediately sell their coins.Many have a long-term strategy.
This topic is already so chewed that many express not their opinions, but they are drifting.  Of course, Bounty Hunters are not to blame, because they can also be meaninglessly blamed for the full-scale fall in the cryptocurrency market as early as 2018.
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April 29, 2019, 11:23:27 AM
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I come across different posts and allegations that bounty hunters are dumpers and they make projects lose it value upon exchange listing. But from my experience with bounties most projects don't offer bounty allocation of more than 5% of the total token sold. So how will 5% dump have a huge effect on the remaining 95% price. And what about projects that don't have bounties but still dump hard on the exchange, is it bounty hunters too?
The bitter truth is that most projects dump because of the ridiculous number of bonuses the team have offered during the tokensale and pre-sale period. Imagine giving investors 70% bonus for their investments, they can decide to sell everything off and be happy with the 70% profit.


ICO developers know that offering a big bonus is one way to entice big investors, to invest in their project, without a bonus and a big hype in ICO it cannot attract big investors to invest, I also believe that these bonuses, can harm the ICO when it hit the market, and this is actually what is happening.

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April 29, 2019, 11:27:04 AM
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I think this issue is not new and common now. Every coin of ico projects that is listed right away and decreases its price continuosly in a decreasing point, they blame bounty hunters, they would say that bounty hunters sell their tokens right away yet if they only knew that the total allocated tokens to be distributed is only a few peecentage like 2 to 3 percent. They are blaming the wrong people.
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April 29, 2019, 11:28:49 AM
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When such a thing happens, it should not blame the bounty hunter. The project team should be able to consider repurchasing and reduce the market for dumping. Smart investors also buy more cryptocurrencies at very low prices.

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April 29, 2019, 11:33:44 AM
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I think you're right saying that bounty hunters are not to be blame by the dump of the tokens. I was once a bounty hunter and I look at the possibility. Figured it all out that every bounty I've been through, there were 1% allocation from the total token pool. So they are not to blame.
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April 29, 2019, 12:00:44 PM
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I think you're right saying that bounty hunters are not to be blame by the dump of the tokens. I was once a bounty hunter and I look at the possibility. Figured it all out that every bounty I've been through, there were 1% allocation from the total token pool. So they are not to blame.
Yes, it is understood only by those people who are involved in the bounty. It is obvious that we can not greatly influence the price, but it is not clear who needs to dump the price there.
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April 29, 2019, 12:06:36 PM
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I come across different posts and allegations that bounty hunters are dumpers and they make projects lose it value upon exchange listing. But from my experience with bounties most projects don't offer bounty allocation of more than 5% of the total token sold. So how will 5% dump have a huge effect on the remaining 95% price. And what about projects that don't have bounties but still dump hard on the exchange, is it bounty hunters too?
The bitter truth is that most projects dump because of the ridiculous number of bonuses the team have offered during the tokensale and pre-sale period. Imagine giving investors 70% bonus for their investments, they can decide to sell everything off and be happy with the 70% profit.

Well they just need to blame someone when their project falls apart. I have this project this early 2019, blames the bounty hunter because of the price dumps then some of the private investors pull of their investment. Then the team blaming the bounty hunters for this, which I think is not the main reason. The main reason about their token dump is because they have their own product yet.
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April 29, 2019, 12:12:24 PM
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I think you're right saying that bounty hunters are not to be blame by the dump of the tokens. I was once a bounty hunter and I look at the possibility. Figured it all out that every bounty I've been through, there were 1% allocation from the total token pool. So they are not to blame.
Yes, it is understood only by those people who are involved in the bounty. It is obvious that we can not greatly influence the price, but it is not clear who needs to dump the price there.
It's not clear as the devs will denies their involvement for sure, but again hunters don't have that capabilities as they only have small portions of the tokens, many people knows that it's possible that a big investors or holders aside from dev can fully manipulated everything.
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April 29, 2019, 12:15:49 PM
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That reason only the blackmail for covering the real problem.
It's human nature ,right ?

It's reasonable for not give all portion of the bounty for the hunter because it will break their project's market

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April 29, 2019, 12:20:55 PM
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I have met many projects that blame such bounty hunters. They cannot control the total distribution for bonuses and such blame actions are often very inferior and such projects will soon become scam soon after. I think they should take the time to analyze and work on the project more so that there are more achievements for the project than blaming others.
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April 29, 2019, 12:28:00 PM
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That reason only the blackmail for covering the real problem.
It's human nature ,right ?

It's reasonable for not give all portion of the bounty for the hunter because it will break their project's market
don't be easy to trust anyone because it can be that person is not good and will destroy you.
and if you believe you shouldn't blame others and blame yourself.
Prize hunters will expect the gifts they have done and that is a good thing maybe, everyone has hope for what they do.

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