THEYMOS GIVES NEW MANDATE TO DT MEMBERS - will they take heed??????????????????

[The-One-Above-All]

Logged-out users will now see a warning in trust-enabled sections if more DT members neg-trust the topic starter than positive-trust him.

This increases the responsibility of DT members not to give negative trust for stupid reasons, but only for things that cause you to believe that the person is a scammer.

Will this STOP those observable liars,and scammers on DT using red trust to silence those that whistle blow on them?

We will watch and see. We believe it will make 0 difference. They will continue to issue red trust for any reason they see fit, especially if you say something about them that is observably true and verifiable but they DO NOT WANT people to know about it.

It will remain a tool for observable liars and scammers to attempt to silence their critics and crush free speech.



Better to make an ORDER: prove that someone is a scammer, or bring a very STRONG case that they are a scammer OR GET BLACKLISTED from DT for giving out red trust to other people who should not have a scammer tag.

Perhaps a single temp red tag (3 days) can be applied for investigations to be done and case submitted for instances of serious doubt. It must be removed after this point if no clear evidence or strong case can not be provided. Perhaps caution under investigation tag for them.

If I were THEYMOS i would also make an ORDER that if clear evidence is presented to you that demonstrates clearly the person is a scammer or a STRONG case for them scamming can be presented then you MUST give them a red tag or describe why you will NOT or you get BLACKLISTED. No more double standards. Why should those that are clearly scammers be given a free pass to scam others ??

Grey areas can be put up for Theymos's own assessment but if you are on the wrong side of 3 disputes after he has studied the evidence then you will be BLACKLISTED. Obviously your judgement is not appropriate to be on DT.

This will bring them more in line and encourage others to play fairly with ALL members.

[TryNinja]

Can you please stop creating a new thread every couple of hours? Did your first account (cryptohunter) got banned? Because if so, you will probably get this one as well very soon.

Isn’t it clear already that no one gives a damn about your ranting essays (theymos included)? It just gets worse for you. Even if you are right, DT is a mafia and trust sucks, you are just losing your credibility (if you still have any left) every time you come here and post a new wall of text.

Legit question.

[Jet Cash]

DT is so last week - we've moved on to merits source applications now.

[nutildah]

I have you on ignore so I cant see what you're writing, but I dont think you added enough question marks to your subject title. Is it really a question? I'm not certain...

[LFC_Bitcoin]

I might start taking bets on when he gets his new account banned, like the last one.

[DireWolfM14]

I might start taking bets on when he gets his new account banned, like the last one.

I'm not sure cryptohunter is banned.  She doesn't show up on the seclog or the modlog, and bpip has no mention of a ban.  She hasn't logged on since the 13th, well not with that account anyway.  Now we get to deal with CH Uber Alles.

[Foxpup]

I'm not sure cryptohunter is banned.

I'm almost certain that cryptohunter isn't banned, but The-One-Above-All is his alt and wants everyone to think his old account was banned because it supports his narrative of censorship and oppression or whatever.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Better to make an ORDER: prove that someone is a scammer, or bring a very STRONG case that they are a scammer OR GET BLACKLISTED from DT for giving out red trust to other people who should not have a scammer tag.

Theymos obviously doesn't want to do that, despite all your nagging and whining from this and presumably other accounts. 

Just woke up to see this new thing by Theymos, and it seems to be more of a disclaimer that DT feedback might not be given for straight-up scamming reasons, which most of us already knew.  I guess it does put more responsibility on DT members to leave feedback for "the right reasons", it doesn't look like there's a penalty for not doing so.  That's fair.  DT has always policed itself and will continue to.  Members who leave garbage tags won't stay in DT for long, and it puts the onus of relying on trust ratings squarely on whoever is looking at them.  That sounds like something Theymos would do.

Doesn't make OP happy, and I'm not surprised.  He'll never be happy until the trust system is destroyed and there's nothing left to this forum but a shitposted-over toxic wasteland.  Not the kind of forum most DT members are looking for.

[actisstupidname]

Shut up, scammer! 

You will not take my money, scammer.

[The-One-Above-All]

This thread is like a honey pot for trust abusers LOL

Come on now guys let's have some sensible enforcement to prevent the reals scammers silencing whistle blowers.

Looks like so far the idea of giving scam tags to scammers is not too popular. haha

[Lauda]

Seems okay I guess (although this is a step back towards centralization), and it looks like I don't have to modify any existing ratings.

[The-One-Above-All]

Seems okay I guess (although this is a step back towards centralization), and it looks like I don't have to modify any existing ratings.

Really? can you present your strong case that I am a scammer because I can present observable instances where you have

1. Lied for financial gain (scammed)
2. Trust abused the system, and given red trust to individuals for them merely stating they will encourage others to examine your post history
3. Been STRONGLY implicated in an extortion scheme


We will welcome a full debate with such an observable liar, scammer, trust abuser and one STRONGLY implicated in a serious extortion scheme. Not to mention the escrow details on that 3000 btc move you pulled, not that we are saying that has as yet a strong case behind it but we feel it should have a transparent full investigation done on it.


What's wrong guys?? you don't wish to see scammers ONLY given scam tags?

A step back to centralization hahah. What lauda means is that red trust is being gradually taken away from him to silence whistle blowers that present observable instances of his lying and scamming.

Time to ensure ONLY scammers get scam tags, not just anyone who mentions observable instances in your own past you would like to hide.

[Lauda]

A step back to centralization hahah. What lauda means is that red trust is being gradually taken away from him to silence whistle blowers that present observable instances of his lying and scamming.

If you make more alt accounts, I'll tag them too. Dodging your red trust via alts does not work (scammer or not).

[The-One-Above-All]

A step back to centralization hahah. What lauda means is that red trust is being gradually taken away from him to silence whistle blowers that present observable instances of his lying and scamming.

If you make more alt accounts, I'll tag them too. Dodging your red trust via alts does not work.

That sounds like you are reaching and guessing? We can discuss your theories later, let's stick to the hard evidence that is observable. We are not an alt of anyone.

Where as we have observable instances of you lying and scamming?

Closure or loss of some earnings...hmmmm. No big exchanges will risk it if they try and ban it. It won't have this much volume after the pump is done.

Don't be such an obvious pumper, at least pretend to consider some possible negatives. The fact you believe there was no instamine is the best part.

I'd rather be closed than submit to the foul government. There is no pump going on. We have just started to get the attention of some media, wait for the full impact. There was no instamine, I was there.

Here you are LYING for financial gain. Trying to scam investors into believing there was no instamine??  You are a liar and a scammer.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=560138.msg7535561#msg7535561

there was an instamine and the project dev offered a 2 000 000 000 usd (peak) to compensate those miners that were shut out when the instamine.

You always have been since the start. It does not surprise me at all that you are now trying to extort people and shut them down with red trust.

You should have a red tag.  Lying for financial gain is scamming. You are a scammer.

You are using red trust to silence people presenting instances from your past.

In light of your natural scamming and lying behavior it makes the extortion attempt

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1764757.0

We think the escrow details of you possibly moving 3000 BTC and profiting from the fork should be made transparent and open.


Why are you applying red trust to people who simply say they will investigate your post history if you have NOTHING TO HIDE??

You are the scammer here, you should have red trust.

[Lauda]

Closure or loss of some earnings...hmmmm. No big exchanges will risk it if they try and ban it. It won't have this much volume after the pump is done.

Don't be such an obvious pumper, at least pretend to consider some possible negatives. The fact you believe there was no instamine is the best part.

I'd rather be closed than submit to the foul government. There is no pump going on. We have just started to get the attention of some media, wait for the full impact. There was no instamine, I was there.

Nice of you to admit that you're cryptohunter. 

[The-One-Above-All]

Closure or loss of some earnings...hmmmm. No big exchanges will risk it if they try and ban it. It won't have this much volume after the pump is done.

Don't be such an obvious pumper, at least pretend to consider some possible negatives. The fact you believe there was no instamine is the best part.

I'd rather be closed than submit to the foul government. There is no pump going on. We have just started to get the attention of some media, wait for the full impact. There was no instamine, I was there.

Nice of you to admit that you're cryptohunter.  

Nice attempt at a diversion.

I see no admission of any such thing nice attempt to divert. But enough side tracking let's discuss your lying and scamming and using red trust to silence people who point out the truth you are observably a liar and scammer.

Let's keep to YOUR PAST. No diverting scammer.

SO WITH YOUR POCKETS STUFFED WITH DARK COINS THERE WAS NO PREMINE BECAUSE YOU WERE ON THE LAUNCH HEY???

Look at the people here crying to keep the power to give red tags to anyone that presents observable instances of their previous behaviors.

Sorry but scam tags for SCAMMERS ONLY. Obviously EXTORTIONISTS and those MESSING with escrow funds should also get a strong look at.

EDIT - lauda?? where have you gone? we were going to debate your lying and scamming? but you seem to have vanished?

[2girls]

Can you please stop creating a new thread every couple of hours? Did your first account (cryptohunter) got banned? Because if so, you will probably get this one as well very soon.

Isn’t it clear already that no one gives a damn about your ranting essays (theymos included)? It just gets worse for you. Even if you are right, DT is a mafia and trust sucks, you are just losing your credibility (if you still have any left) every time you come here and post a new wall of text.

Legit question.

So now everyone knows and openly admits that  "DT is a mafia"  
 

Better to make an ORDER: prove that someone is a scammer, or bring a very STRONG case that they are a scammer OR GET BLACKLISTED from DT for giving out red trust to other people who should not have a scammer tag.

Theymos obviously doesn't want to do that, despite all your nagging and whining from this and presumably other accounts.  

Just woke up to see this new thing by Theymos, and it seems to be more of a disclaimer that DT feedback might not be given for straight-up scamming reasons, which most of us already knew.  I guess it does put more responsibility on DT members to leave feedback for "the right reasons", it doesn't look like there's a penalty for not doing so.  That's fair.  DT has always policed itself and will continue to.  Members who leave garbage tags won't stay in DT for long, and it puts the onus of relying on trust ratings squarely on whoever is looking at them.  That sounds like something Theymos would do.

Doesn't make OP happy, and I'm not surprised.  He'll never be happy until the trust system is destroyed and there's nothing left to this forum but a shitposted-over toxic wasteland.  Not the kind of forum most DT members are looking for.

Maybe OP is not happy but i am Hopeful that things will be better one day. This decision shows Theymos is not only concerned about the shit posters but he is also concerned about few DT members who are also spoiling this forum for their own benefits.

[Lauda]

EDIT - lauda?? where have you gone? we were going to debate your lying and scamming? but you seem to have vanished?

I have better things to do than play around with a child using alt accounts all day. You got to create more threads to attract my full attention, these are rookie numbers.

[2girls]

Closure or loss of some earnings...hmmmm. No big exchanges will risk it if they try and ban it. It won't have this much volume after the pump is done.

Don't be such an obvious pumper, at least pretend to consider some possible negatives. The fact you believe there was no instamine is the best part.

I'd rather be closed than submit to the foul government. There is no pump going on. We have just started to get the attention of some media, wait for the full impact. There was no instamine, I was there.

Nice of you to admit that you're cryptohunter.  

I don't know who is he but he did not admit anywhere that he is crypto hunter. What worse is that "LFC_Bitcoin"  has given merit to "Lauda" on his baseless  assumptions. Isn't a merit abuse too.  

Power do make people blind as they start to consider themselves God

[LFC_Bitcoin]

@2girls

U OK HUN?