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I encourage anyone to create their own custom Trust list!
Last time, I found some irregularities, without even looking for it. DT1 was updated today. I will no longer overwrite the list below, and start a new list with the new DT1 members. See the last page of this topic for the latest list of DT1 and DT2 members. This overview should make it easier to spot if someone with red trust ends up on DT. There is currently 1 banned user on DT1, and there are 6 banned users on DT2.DT 1 (updated June 8, sorted by userID) (see the last page for updates!) 1. 35: theymos ( Trust: 212: -0 / +22) ( DT1! (50) 4738 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 2. 11425: gmaxwell ( Trust: 140: -0 / +14) ( DT1! (26) 1278 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 3. 18312: phantastisch ( Trust: 120: -0 / +12) ( DT1! (4) 242 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 4. 18640: SebastianJu ( Trust: 254: -0 / +26) ( DT1! (10) 34 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 5. 23092: malevolent ( Trust: 10: -0 / +1) ( DT1! (4) 62 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 6. 24140: qwk ( Trust: 134: -0 / +15) ( DT1! (32) 1106 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 7. 30747: Vod ( Trust: 212: -0 / +27) ( DT1! (29) 1243 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 8. 31931: Anduck ( Trust: 3: -1 / +18) ( DT1! (8) 43 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 9. 51173: mprep ( Trust: 80: -0 / +8) ( DT1! (21) 357 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 10. 54791: Dabs ( Trust: 411: -0 / +42) ( DT1! (3) 143 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 11. 55384: Foxpup ( Trust: 1: -0 / +1) ( DT1! (12) 473 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 12. 64507: philipma1957 ( Trust: 201: -0 / +21) ( DT1! (19) 727 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 13. 78147: Cyrus ( Trust: 87: -0 / +9) ( DT1! (27) 121 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 14. 81962: monkeynuts ( Trust: 290: -0 / +29) ( DT1! (20) 190 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 15. 84521: Welsh ( Trust: 40: -0 / +4) ( DT1! (16) 446 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 16. 98986: TMAN ( Trust: 241: -0 / +27) ( DT1! (25) 1027 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 17. 101872: Lauda ( Trust: 314: -0 / +33) ( DT1! (26) 1036 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 18. 113670: Mitchell ( Trust: 370: -0 / +37) ( DT1! (33) 262 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 19. 120837: vizique ( Trust: 255: -0 / +28) ( DT1! (14) 198 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 20. 129764: Ticked ( Trust: 269: -0 / +29) ( DT1! (10) 183 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 21. 140827: yogg ( Trust: 203: -0 / +25) ( DT1! (22) 618 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 22. 153634: dbshck ( Trust: 9: -0 / +3) ( DT1! (5) 251 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 23. 153656: TheNewAnon135246 ( Trust: 259: -0 / +27) ( DT1! (16) 694 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 24. 158444: hybridsole ( Trust: 193: -0 / +20) ( DT1! (14) 186 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 25. 160943: greenplastic ( Trust: 443: -0 / +47) ( DT1! (20) 103 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 26. 162384: hedgy73 ( Trust: 250: -0 / +25) ( DT1! (1) 50 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 27. 164822: hilariousandco ( Trust: 158: -0 / +18) ( DT1! (44) 564 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 28. 169515: EcuaMobi ( Trust: 165: -0 / +17) ( DT1! (10) 411 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 29. 175302: Avirunes ( Trust: 84: -0 / +9) ( DT1! (10) 244 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 30. 189967: buckrogers ( Trust: 255: -0 / +26) ( DT1! (10) 44 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 31. 206143: Lesbian Cow ( Trust: 338: -0 / +37) ( DT1! (22) 377 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 32. 224980: cryptodevil ( Trust: 67: -0 / +8) ( DT1! (16) 100 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 33. 234771: suchmoon ( Trust: 76: -0 / +11) ( DT1! (44) 2278 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 34. 290195: achow101 ( Trust: 40: -0 / +4) ( DT1! (16) 1430 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 35. 313016: owlcatz ( Trust: 359: -0 / +39) ( DT1! (30) 216 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 36. 317618: nutildah ( Trust: 0: -0 / +1) ( DT1! (8) 701 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 37. 319562: JohnUser ( Trust: 67: -0 / +7) ( DT1! (0) 208 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 38. 327499: dazedfool ( Trust: 251: -0 / +31) ( DT1! (7) 110 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 39. 346731: minerjones ( Trust: 942: -0 / +101) ( DT1! (33) 681 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 40. 347141: sapta ( Trust: 65: -0 / +9) ( DT1! (5) 166 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 41. 351569: tmfp ( Trust: 45: -0 / +5) ( DT1! (17) 399 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 42. 352429: BitcoinPenny ( Trust: 382: -0 / +41) ( DT1! (18) 493 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 43. 355846: yahoo62278 ( Trust: 128: -0 / +14) ( DT1! (15) 523 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 44. 379487: LFC_Bitcoin ( Trust: 66: -0 / +10) ( DT1! (7) 738 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 45. 396526: ezeminer ( Trust: 215: -0 / +22) ( DT1! (13) 95 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 46. 410541: MaoChao ( Trust: 19: -0 / +4) ( DT1! (5) 108 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 47. 452769: bones261 ( Trust: 10: -0 / +3) ( DT1! (14) 557 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 48. 459836: LoyceV ( Trust: 125: -0 / +16) ( DT1! (48) 2961 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 49. 465017: actmyname ( Trust: 127: -0 / +13) ( DT1! (25) 561 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 50. 487418: The Pharmacist ( Trust: 193: -0 / +22) ( DT1! (35) 1957 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 51. 507856: LeGaulois ( Trust: 30: -0 / +3) ( DT1! (8) 610 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 52. 507936: DarkStar_ ( Trust: 256: -0 / +30) ( DT1! (29) 784 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 53. 679341: TheFuzzStone ( Trust: 12: -0 / +2) ( DT1! (2) 387 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 54. 698159: Jet Cash ( Trust: 34: -0 / +4) ( DT1! (10) 1150 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 55. 765632: bL4nkcode ( Trust: 64: -0 / +8) ( DT1! (4) 165 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 56. 805820: Lafu ( Trust: 52: -0 / +6) ( DT1! (16) 555 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 57. 811213: polymerbit ( Trust: 95: -0 / +10) ( DT1! (9) 204 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 58. 881377: Hhampuz ( Trust: 395: -0 / +53) ( DT1! (38) 1080 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 59. 897509: xtraelv ( Trust: 25: -0 / +3) ( DT1! (21) 1054 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 60. 949248: Kryptowerk ( Trust: 142: -0 / +23) ( DT1! (9) 351 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 61. 1000199: krogothmanhattan ( Trust: 440: -0 / +51) ( DT1! (26) 1091 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 62. 1051955: roycilik ( Trust: 11: -0 / +4) ( DT1! (1) 870 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 63. 1053119: Halab ( Trust: ???: -1 / +5) ( DT1! (13) 324 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 64. 1082600: kenzawak ( Trust: 8: -0 / +4) ( DT1! (1) 756 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 65. 1177936: Veleor ( Trust: 8: -0 / +2) ( DT1! (11) 592 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 66. 1180530: theyoungmillionaire ( Trust: 20: -0 / +4) ( DT1! (6) 786 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 67. 1188543: o_e_l_e_o ( Trust: 8: -0 / +2) ( DT1! (15) 1905 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 68. 1202061: chimk ( Trust: 1: -0 / +2) ( DT1! (5) 437 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 69. 1291828: iasenko ( Trust: 20: -0 / +3) ( DT1! (15) 974 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 70. 1339716: coinlocket$ ( Trust: 27: -0 / +5) ( DT1! (24) 1032 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 71. 1580039: asche ( Trust: 54: -0 / +9) ( DT1! (11) 602 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 72. 1582324: DdmrDdmr ( Trust: 8: -0 / +2) ( DT1! (15) 2198 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 73. 1668017: anonymousminer ( Trust: 174: -0 / +25) ( DT1! (13) 401 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 74. 1762404: Alex_Sr ( Trust: 8: -0 / +3) ( DT1! (14) 797 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 75. 1825672: morvillz7z ( Trust: 2: -0 / +1) ( DT1! (9) 638 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 76. 1855828: taikuri13 ( Trust: 5: -0 / +1) ( DT1! (8) 648 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 77. 1980983: Coolcryptovator ( Trust: 32: -0 / +8) ( DT1! (17) 721 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 78. 1982152: lovesmayfamilis Banned! ( Trust: 10: -0 / +4) ( DT1! (2) 471 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 79. 2143453: 1miau ( Trust: 9: -0 / +1) ( DT1! (12) 977 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 80. 2204241: ICOEthics ( Trust: 68: -0 / +16) ( DT1! (23) 790 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) DT 2 1. 3: satoshi ( Trust: 228: -0 / +28) ( 1772 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 2. 4: sirius ( Trust: 10: -0 / +1) (4 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 3. 1268: nanotube ( Trust: 10: -0 / +1) (0 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 4. 2285: mikegogulski ( Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 5. 2676: casascius ( Trust: 60: -0 / +6) ( 43 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 6. 2759: midnightmagic ( Trust: 10: -0 / +1) ( 16 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 7. 2786: Pieter Wuille ( Trust: 10: -0 / +1) ( 35 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 8. 3318: Luke-Jr ( Trust: 40: -0 / +4) ( 15 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 9. 3380: Vladimir ( Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 10. 3420: dooglus ( Trust: 130: -0 / +13) ( 130 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 11. 3480: Astro ( Trust: 40: -0 / +4) (0 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 12. 3771: molecular ( Trust: 31: -0 / +4) ( 10 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 13. 4171: Raize ( Trust: 10: -0 / +1) (7 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 14. 4528: Matt Corallo ( Trust: 10: -0 / +1) (1 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 15. 4534: phantomcircuit ( Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 16. 5507: flix ( Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 17. 5776: Meni Rosenfeld ( Trust: 10: -0 / +1) ( 13 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 18. 5797: grue ( Trust: 20: -0 / +2) ( 193 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 19. 6347: Maged ( Trust: 10: -0 / +1) (6 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 20. 6447: forrestv ( Trust: 10: -0 / +1) ( 14 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP) 21. 7351: EPiSKiNG ( Trust: 80: -0 / +8) (1 Merit earned) ( Trust list) ( BPIP)
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What was the number of DT2 members before introducing changes to the trust system? I am surprised to see myself on the list.
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May 04, 2019, 09:13:35 AM |
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What was the number of DT2 members before introducing changes to the trust system? I don't know, I didn't keep track back then. I am surprised to see myself on the list. Me too, you didn't even leave any feedback.
I only now see this topic made Maggiordome notify 30 users ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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May 04, 2019, 02:06:52 PM |
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I only now see this topic made Maggiordome notify 30 users ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Indeed. I'm one of them ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Not a bad thing by the way: at least we know when we are in the DT list.
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What was the number of DT2 members before introducing changes to the trust system? I don't know, I didn't keep track back then. I am surprised to see myself on the list. Me too, you didn't even leave any feedback.
I only now see this topic made Maggiordome notify 30 users ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Pretty sure there were a LOT less people on DT2 back then. I only found out about Maggiordomo by accident a few weeks ago. Love it! ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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May 04, 2019, 02:54:43 PM |
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Pretty sure there were a LOT less people on DT2 back then.
100-ish is a number that I recall for some reason. We're now approaching that many in DT1. Inflation.
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Small question and suggestion: - I look back and forth but I don't know which indicator you use to sort out DT2 member list. It is not sorted out based on ID numbers, or total trust points. Please explain why you sorted DT2 member list liked this? - It might be good if you can make a list of only DT2 member whom did not earn a signed merit so far, rather than a mixture like current list. It is ridiculous when a real DT2 member has not been able to earn a single merit so far, especially if still being actively in the forum last year. - In my opinion, a threshold at 25 merit over last year is minimum one to judge quality of DT2 member. The threshold should be higher, 50 or 100. I would prefer to choose the threshold at 100 earned merits.
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May 06, 2019, 02:55:29 PM |
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Wow, I don't even recognize most of those DT2 members, and I don't think I'd ever seen a list of them since all the new DT1 members were added. Here's hoping they're actually trustworthy, realize the responsibility that being on DT entails, and leave feedback responsibly. They can obviously be voted off DT2 if there's a good reason, but with that many members it could be a pain in the ass keeping tabs on how their DT "performance" is. Thanks for the excellent compilation as always, LoyceV. We're now approaching that many in DT1. Inflation.
Yep, there are definitely a lot but the list doesn't look too bad to me. At least there aren't any members that caught my attention as possible problems--but time will tell.
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- I look back and forth but I don't know which indicator you use to sort out DT2 member list. It is not sorted out based on ID numbers, or total trust points. Please explain why you sorted DT2 member list liked this? It's sorted based on the highest ranked DT1's trust list in which they appear. The DT1s are sorted based on account age. The first 34 entries are all included on theymos' trust list. The next 32 (from 35 - 66) are on gmaxwell's trust list. The next 17 (67 - 83) are on phantastisch's trust list. And so on. It obviously doesn't display duplicates. It also doesn't matter if a user is trusted or distrusted by the DT1 member in question - if they are anywhere on their trust list, they will be grouped under that user. For example, Gavin Andresen is number 36, under gmaxwell's group, despite being excluded by gmaxwell. In short, it's most likely just the way LoyceV's script collected the data. It's totally arbitrary and means nothing. - In my opinion, a threshold at 25 merit over last year is minimum one to judge quality of DT2 member. The threshold should be higher, 50 or 100. I would prefer to choose the threshold at 100 earned merits. This is too high considering the threshold for DT1 is only 10 merit. I think either 10 for both, or perhaps 25 or 50 for DT1 and 10 for DT2 would be reasonable.
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May 06, 2019, 04:53:05 PM |
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What was the number of DT2 members before introducing changes to the trust system? I am surprised to see myself on the list.
182 Accounts were the DT2 list Source my old thread <3 Is the Default trust system still working/active?
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May 06, 2019, 04:54:07 PM |
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It's sorted based on the highest ranked oldest? DT1's trust list in which they appear. The DT1s are sorted based on account age.
The first 34 entries are all included on theymos' trust list. The next 32 (from 35 - 66) are on gmaxwell's trust list. The next 17 (67 - 83) are on phantastisch's trust list. And so on. It obviously doesn't display duplicates. It also doesn't matter if a user is trusted or distrusted by the DT1 member in question - if they are anywhere on their trust list, they will be grouped under that user. For example, Gavin Andresen is number 36, under gmaxwell's group, despite being excluded by gmaxwell. Thanks, I hadn't looked into it, but this makes a lot of sense. I'll quote you in the OP. I edited your quote, do you agree?In short, it's most likely just the way LoyceV's script collected the data. It's totally arbitrary and means nothing. Correct, I wrote that in the OP: I used the same order as used on Trust settings, I'm not sure what it's based on. - In my opinion, a threshold at 25 merit over last year is minimum one to judge quality of DT2 member. The threshold should be higher, 50 or 100. I would prefer to choose the threshold at 100 earned merits. This is too high considering the threshold for DT1 is only 10 merit. I think either 10 for both, or perhaps 25 or 50 for DT1 and 10 for DT2 would be reasonable. I'd say 2 inclusions from DT2 would help a lot. DT1 needs at least 10 votes from users with earned Merit, so 2 votes from DT1 isn't that much to ask for. - It might be good if you can make a list of only DT2 member whom did not earn a signed merit so far, rather than a mixture like current list. It is ridiculous when a real DT2 member has not been able to earn a single merit so far, especially if still being actively in the forum last year. Wait for it......... ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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I edited your quote, do you agree? Yeah, that makes it more obvious than the way I phrased it. Quote away. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I'd say 2 inclusions from DT2 would help a lot. DT1 needs at least 10 votes from users with earned Merit, so 2 votes from DT1 isn't that much to ask for. Agreed, but I think the merit requirement is appropriate as well. Since both DT1 and DT2 ratings appear exactly the same if you are using default trust, I think the same minimum merit requirement (and a similar not-inactive requirement) needed for DT1 should also apply to DT2. Minimum of 10 earned merit and a minimum of 2 inclusions from DT1.
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May 06, 2019, 07:00:47 PM |
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- It might be good if you can make a list of only DT2 member whom did not earn a signed merit so far, rather than a mixture like current list. It is ridiculous when a real DT2 member has not been able to earn a single merit so far, especially if still being actively in the forum last year.
I wouldn't jump to conclusions and judge a DT member just because he/she haven't earned any merits so far. After all our trust is mostly based in transactions being done within the forum not by the quality of our posts here, what will make it wrong though is if we just make high merit earners a DT member just because of the post quality they have. DT members such as Carra23, ndnh, Eodguy149, and devthedev have been active in the forum in terms of running campaigns, buying/selling in the market place, buying cryptocurrencies with Paypal, and doing escrows all of them have 0 merits but they are trusted because of the successful transactions they have made. So I hope before you get suspicious at them having 0 merits just look at their trust summary before you judge them.
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May 06, 2019, 07:28:39 PM |
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- It might be good if you can make a list of only DT2 member whom did not earn a signed merit so far, rather than a mixture like current list. It is ridiculous when a real DT2 member has not been able to earn a single merit so far, especially if still being actively in the forum last year.
I wouldn't jump to conclusions and judge a DT member just because he/she haven't earned any merits so far. After all our trust is mostly based in transactions being done within the forum not by the quality of our posts here, what will make it wrong though is if we just make high merit earners a DT member just because of the post quality they have. DT members such as Carra23, ndnh, Eodguy149, and devthedev have been active in the forum in terms of running campaigns, buying/selling in the market place, buying cryptocurrencies with Paypal, and doing escrows all of them have 0 merits but they are trusted because of the successful transactions they have made. So I hope before you get suspicious at them having 0 merits just look at their trust summary before you judge them. Having merit means you have made “good” posts, while being on DT means you can generally be trusted, specifically to give good/fair/appropriate ratings. Or at least this is what these should mean. I met someone a year or two ago who created his account *solely* to trade with others in the forum and that is quite literally all he did (I assume he also read some threads). He created his account, got locked out, and created an alt account to recover his first one, and his second account had total active time of several days and had a fair amount of positive trust from trades done on the second account. I believe I met him prior to the merit system being implemented, however he would obviously have no merit (he had zero posts) but appeared to be generally trustworthy. ETA - it was this guy https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=515678 and his first account was https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=406863
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May 06, 2019, 08:58:29 PM |
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- It might be good if you can make a list of only DT2 member whom did not earn a signed merit so far, rather than a mixture like current list. It is ridiculous when a real DT2 member has not been able to earn a single merit so far, especially if still being actively in the forum last year.
~snip~ Having merit means you have made “good” posts, while being on DT means you can generally be trusted, specifically to give good/fair/appropriate ratings. Or at least this is what these should mean. I met someone a year or two ago who created his account *solely* to trade with others in the forum and that is quite literally all he did (I assume he also read some threads). He created his account, got locked out, and created an alt account to recover his first one, and his second account had total active time of several days and had a fair amount of positive trust from trades done on the second account. I believe I met him prior to the merit system being implemented, however he would obviously have no merit (he had zero posts) but appeared to be generally trustworthy. ETA - it was this guy https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=515678 and his first account was https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=406863Thanks for giving another example on why merits cannot be directly related to being trusted in the forum. I just got disturbed a little on why tranthidung got suspicious about a lot of DT members not having merits. Yes maybe detecting unworthy DT members who have slipped through the cracks by looking at their merits might be a start but criticizing them solely because of not receiving or having any merits at all is an entirely wrong way to look at DT members and the DT system as a whole.
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tranthidung
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May 06, 2019, 10:54:46 PM |
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Thanks for giving another example on why merits cannot be directly related to being trusted in the forum. I just got disturbed a little on why tranthidung got suspicious about a lot of DT members not having merits. Yes maybe detecting unworthy DT members who have slipped through the cracks by looking at their merits might be a start but criticizing them solely because of not receiving or having any merits at all is an entirely wrong way to look at DT members and the DT system as a whole.
Ah, you are right, fella. I meant it is one of indicators to point out potential 'fake'/ low quality DT2 members, it is a start, like you said. I meant if a real quality users have still been actively posting in the forum last year. It is abnormal to see them even have not received a single merit, or every limited merits. DT members, somehow, are high quality posters, compared to average users in the forum. So, they should received merits more than average users, or at least at acceptable rates. Even they are more actively in collectibles, they can get easily get merits from such areas. Merits are not scarce.
I actually did not misunderstand the terms and roles between Trust and Merit.
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