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Nate is comfortable being on the ground and we all know that he has the balls to match against Khabib. But as this point, Khabib hasn't show any weaknesses, the only way I say see Nate to win if he caught Khabib flush on the chin. We all know that Nate loves fighting stand up as well and he has a long reach. So if somewhat early in the rounds he caught Khabib with a huge punch and then pound him, that is the only chance that I see him winning.
Nate is a volume puncher and not someone with a KO power but I don't see Khabib allowing him to throw many punches as he pleases. I see the fight going to the ground most of the time. To bad Dana and Ali are not interested to see match Khabib vs Diaz. Simply because it wont be profitable and their golden mine (Khabib) wont be so interested if he loses.
Right now, Nate is the third (or fourth) choice behind GSP , Ferguson, (or Conor). When the time is right, I doubt that the fight between the two will not be profitable. Nate knows how to sell/promote a fight and he has the skills to back it up.
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Right now, Nate is the third (or fourth) choice behind GSP , Ferguson, (or Conor). When the time is right, I doubt that the fight between the two will not be profitable. Nate knows how to sell/promote a fight and he has the skills to back it up.
Nate knows how to sell, strange that he doesnt earn much. 250k for the fight with Pettis, 500k+2kk for both fights agains Conor. But in other fights he got like 10-100k only. I think that is not much for a fighter of his caliber.
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Here are the odds for UFC 243. I took this from Nitrogensports
Main Card Robert Whittaker (-106) vs Israel Adesanya (-106) Al Iaquinta (+145) vs Dan Hooker (-166) Tai Tuivasa (-120) vs Sergey Spivac (+315) Luke Jumeau (+133) vs Dhiego Lima (-151)
Preliminary Card Jake Matthews (-287) vs Rostem Akman (+239) Justin Tafa (-120) vs Yorgan De Castro (+106) Callan Potter (+250) vs Maki Pitolo (-301) Megan Anderson (-526) vs Zarah Fairn dos Santos (+385)
Early Prelims Jamie Mullarkey (+135) vs Brad Riddell (-154) Nadia Kassem (+150) vs Ji Yeon Kim (-172) Khalid Taha (-234) vs Bruno Silva (+200)
Both Wittaker and Adesanya at -106 so its up to you guys to decide which one is which.
And there's more action coming in on Adesanya. Some sports betting sites now got him as a slight favorite. It's making me scared. Lolol. UFC 243: Embedded Episode 2https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzQCsdzQcws
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October 02, 2019, 03:19:47 PM |
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So if somewhat early in the rounds he caught Khabib with a huge punch and then pound him, that is the only chance that I see him winning.
Nate Diaz is not known for his punching power to land a heavy punch and end the fight, he is really good on the ground but he never initiate the ground game, Nate Diaz usually defeats his opponents with accumulative strikes and i really doubt Khabib will stand with him for that. To bad Dana and Ali are not interested to see match Khabib vs Diaz. Simply because it wont be profitable and their golden mine (Khabib) wont be so interested if he loses.
Khabib and Nate has a history outside the cage as they traded shots outside and if that fight is announced it will be another big pay per view, that being said i do not see Khabib loosing anytime soon. I see the fight going to the ground most of the time. When Khabib is fighting you expect the fight on the ground all the time but i do not see Nate facing Khabib anytime soon. And there's more action coming in on Adesanya. Some sports betting sites now got him as a slight favorite. It's making me scared. Lolol.
Was watching Adesanya and his old kick boxing fights, he is a special talent when it comes to stand up game and if it is a standing game i see the style bender winning.
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October 02, 2019, 03:23:19 PM |
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Right now, Nate is the third (or fourth) choice behind GSP , Ferguson, (or Conor). When the time is right, I doubt that the fight between the two will not be profitable. Nate knows how to sell/promote a fight and he has the skills to back it up.
Nate knows how to sell, strange that he doesnt earn much. 250k for the fight with Pettis, 500k+2kk for both fights agains Conor. But in other fights he got like 10-100k only. I think that is not much for a fighter of his caliber. I know but this is the UFC mate and it could also be down to him not being able to leverage his past achievements just like what Conor did. If he was in boxing, he probably would have made more money already.
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October 03, 2019, 01:05:11 AM |
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Israel Adesanya Submission Radio interview before UFC 243 He talks with his coach Eugene Bareman, about fight with Whiattaker and many other topics. Good to watch, know him more and warm up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rIITlZLN8c
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^ Nice vid. Thanks. He's confident af right now, it's scary. He's like getting everything out there, leaving nothing if he loses vs Whitaker. Here's another good Adesanya vid (a break down of how he fights): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8BpdM-wPV8Edit: 'It's scary' as in I fear for him... Lol.
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So if somewhat early in the rounds he caught Khabib with a huge punch and then pound him, that is the only chance that I see him winning.
Nate Diaz is not known for his punching power to land a heavy punch and end the fight, he is really good on the ground but he never initiate the ground game, Nate Diaz usually defeats his opponents with accumulative strikes and i really doubt Khabib will stand with him for that. To bad Dana and Ali are not interested to see match Khabib vs Diaz. Simply because it wont be profitable and their golden mine (Khabib) wont be so interested if he loses.
Khabib and Nate has a history outside the cage as they traded shots outside and if that fight is announced it will be another big pay per view, that being said i do not see Khabib loosing anytime soon. I see the fight going to the ground most of the time. When Khabib is fighting you expect the fight on the ground all the time but i do not see Nate facing Khabib anytime soon. And there's more action coming in on Adesanya. Some sports betting sites now got him as a slight favorite. It's making me scared. Lolol.
Was watching Adesanya and his old kick boxing fights, he is a special talent when it comes to stand up game and if it is a standing game i see the style bender winning. Everyone is underestimating Whittaker, he went 10 rounds with yoel romero. This guy wouldn't be defeated by Adesanya i think who almost got ko'd by Gastelum. I think Whittaker takes it via 3rd Round KO. Dan hooker vs Al Iaquinta is also a really good fight on the card.
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Everyone is underestimating Whittaker, he went 10 rounds with yoel romero. This guy wouldn't be defeated by Adesanya i think who almost got ko'd by Gastelum. I think Whittaker takes it via 3rd Round KO. Dan hooker vs Al Iaquinta is also a really good fight on the card.
I don't underestimate Whittaker for sure. He is a great fighter, BUT he had a long break and hand injury, so I am not sure how he will bounce back in Octagon. ESPN pre fight article: https://www.espn.com/mma/story/_/id/27728376/ufc-243-robert-whittaker-handle-israel-adesanya-accuracyMaybe best bet would be to wait and Bet on Live if available
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@djsugar. Agreed. It might be because of his quiet manner and his unwillingness to join the trashtalking versus the other fighters.
@notblox1. He might lose, however, everyone will know why they call him Bobby Knuckles hehehehe.
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October 04, 2019, 04:23:51 AM |
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Everyone is underestimating Whittaker, he went 10 rounds with yoel romero. This guy wouldn't be defeated by Adesanya i think who almost got ko'd by Gastelum. I think Whittaker takes it via 3rd Round KO.
Not underestimating Whittaker but you have to recognize the striking skills of Israel which I think is superior than Robert. Also, I think Romero won that second fight. He almost ko'd Whittaker too.
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Everyone is underestimating Whittaker, he went 10 rounds with yoel romero. This guy wouldn't be defeated by Adesanya i think who almost got ko'd by Gastelum. I think Whittaker takes it via 3rd Round KO.
Look at you, you are not different from them — you are also underestimating Adesanya ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) . Me? I'm not underestimating Whittaker at all because I know that he is a tough fighter too. Hello? He will not become a champion for no reason lol. But in this fight, I admit that I'm in favor of Stylebender because of his versatility and showmanship. Each one of us got our own favorites, let's just respect others' decision ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) .
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Here are the odds for UFC 243. I took this from Nitrogensports
Main Card Robert Whittaker (-106) vs Israel Adesanya (-106) Al Iaquinta (+145) vs Dan Hooker (-166) Tai Tuivasa (-120) vs Sergey Spivac (+315) Luke Jumeau (+133) vs Dhiego Lima (-151)
Preliminary Card Jake Matthews (-287) vs Rostem Akman (+239) Justin Tafa (-120) vs Yorgan De Castro (+106) Callan Potter (+250) vs Maki Pitolo (-301) Megan Anderson (-526) vs Zarah Fairn dos Santos (+385)
Early Prelims Jamie Mullarkey (+135) vs Brad Riddell (-154) Nadia Kassem (+150) vs Ji Yeon Kim (-172) Khalid Taha (-234) vs Bruno Silva (+200)
Both Wittaker and Adesanya at -106 so its up to you guys to decide which one is which.
And there's more action coming in on Adesanya. Some sports betting sites now got him as a slight favorite. It's making me scared. Lolol. UFC 243: Embedded Episode 2https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzQCsdzQcwsOdds now at Nitrogensports for Robert Whittaker vs Israel Adesanya is as follows Robert Whittaker -104 Israel Adesanya -108 As the fight draws near, odds are changing as well and slowly going in favor of Robert Whittaker. Now i'm thinking that Israel Adesanya might loose to Robert Whittaker and that's not going to look good at his record.
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October 04, 2019, 04:02:42 PM |
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Check out this odds from sportsbet
Adesanya win by decision 3.65 Adesanya win by submission 24.00 Adesanya win by ko 3.00
I think we are much closer to see win by decision, either for Adesanya or Whittaker. I would exclude KO win for either.
Do you know what bookie offer highest odds for Adesanya win atm?
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October 04, 2019, 04:51:12 PM |
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This kid should stop taking jabs at other people while he's on the biggest fight of his career so far. This distraction just brings harm to him. A strong punch to the face from Robert during the fight should bring back his 100% focus provided he doesn't sleep from eating that punch.
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October 04, 2019, 08:43:03 PM |
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Huge news... Khabib's dad agreed on a Conor McGregor rematch in Russia... this will be epic: https://www.mmamania.com/2019/10/3/20897858/ufc-khabib-father-conor-mcgregor-rematch-russia-timeline-eagle-return-mmaHe has given this statement: “But before McGregor we should finish our business with Ferguson,” Abdulmanap Nurmagomedov admitted.” Because he had 28 fights, and runs a 12-fight winning streak in the UFC, just like Khabib. Such winning streaks and such big fights have never happened in the UFC,” he added. I really hope to see the rematch. McGregor has got way too much him. I mean I get it, he punched the guy on that bar and stuff, but people are sleeping on him. He's had 3 losses, and all of them were extremely difficult fights. McGregor if anything can be said about him is that he has balls. He wants Khabib in Russia. Everyone would be scared to even dare to do that. Now he must be happy because Khabib does pretty much anything his dad says, so I can really see this happening in 2020. I just wonder if McGregor is going to have an intermediate fight. The obvious bet is Khabib winning as usual, but people saying that Khabib will have an easy night against McGregor are underrating him. I don't consider the upset happening to be impossible. I mean we've had Ruiz and other upsets happening, why couldn't McGregor do it again? There's a chance if he fixes his cardio and is also more prone to exchange on the feet without constant treat of takedowns. He did better than Barboza, Johnson and Poirier after a big time out. If he remain active im going to give him a chance. But for this to happen, first goes Fergusson, and that is an huge night for Khabib. I really wonder if he can beat Fergusson. In any case, it seems the rematch is in 100%.
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October 04, 2019, 09:11:07 PM |
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^^ Right. Let Khabib finished Tony first and let's see how Dana will set up this fight.
I'm sure Dana in a hear beat will organised everything and set up a rematch. After all it will bring more money in UFC specially if it will be held in a hostile environment such as Russia. I don't know how will Conor will market this fight, I mean will he go that route attack, (attacking Khabib's wife and religion etc.)
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