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October 07, 2019, 12:00:17 PM
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I think we may see something afteral in future for Israel Adesanya vs Jon Jones fight.
Sparks started with comments from both sides.
Jon Jones tweet:
https://twitter.com/espnmma/status/1181068889536389120

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October 07, 2019, 12:20:53 PM
Last edit: October 08, 2019, 01:08:10 PM by Bttzed03
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I think we may see something afteral in future for Israel Adesanya vs Jon Jones fight.
Sparks started with comments from both sides.
Jon Jones tweet:
https://twitter.com/espnmma/status/1181068889536389120


Jones is owning Adesanya even on social media. I know Israel is still young but he's too sensitive with these war of words against Jon.  

I'm pretty sure Dana is loving  what's happening between the two. It's good money if they can make it work.

I remember Jones saying he was inspired by McGregor before and that's probably why he's taunting. He wants to get paid big time too.
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October 07, 2019, 04:22:45 PM
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^^ Right. Let Khabib finished Tony first and let's see how Dana will set up this fight.

I'm sure Dana in a hear beat will organised everything and set up a rematch. After all it will bring more money in UFC specially if it will be held in a hostile environment such as Russia. I don't know how will Conor will market this fight, I mean will he go that route attack, (attacking Khabib's wife and religion etc.)

It will be the biggest fight EVER on the UFC, surpassing the first match. All the naysayers saying "we don't want to see Conor beat up again by Khabib, it's already done" will be buying and watching, or perhaps only watching... but still watching at the end of the day. Odds will obviously be for a Khabib stoppage, the money will be in betting for a Conor win. My strategy is to put money on Conor by UD, there is no other way I see Conor winning, maybe SD if super close. I don't see him stopping Khabib, however, and believe it or not, I see Conor being able to stay away from the fence for some sounds and force Khabib to be on the feet. He is going to need to improve his cardio a lot, his stamina has to be ready for the last 2 rounds. I think people are underrating Conor's grappling, he did actually pretty good on fight 1, the nightmare comes when he is pushed against the fence, he has to avoid that.

But first, we need to see how it goes for Tony, but the good news for Conor fans is that it doesn't matter the outcome, the rematch is happening 100% assuming Conor doesn't fight before the rematch and losses.. perhaps that would kill the buzz, so if he fights he MUST win.
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October 07, 2019, 04:43:06 PM
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It will be the biggest fight EVER on the UFC, surpassing the first match. All the naysayers saying "we don't want to see Conor beat up again by Khabib, it's already done" will be buying and watching, or perhaps only watching... but still watching at the end of the day.
There is no doubt that Khabib rematching against Conor will be another highest grossing PPV and that is the reason Dana White is also really interested in this match up.

Odds will obviously be for a Khabib stoppage, the money will be in betting for a Conor win. My strategy is to put money on Conor by UD, there is no other way I see Conor winning, maybe SD if super close. I don't see him stopping Khabib, however, and believe it or not, I see Conor being able to stay away from the fence for some sounds and force Khabib to be on the feet.
There is no way Conor will have the stamina to last five rounds with Khabib, the only situation i see is a flash knock out and if it goes the second round then there is no way Conor is going to beat Khabib.

He is going to need to improve his cardio a lot, his stamina has to be ready for the last 2 rounds. I think people are underrating Conor's grappling, he did actually pretty good on fight 1, the nightmare comes when he is pushed against the fence, he has to avoid that.
Conor has a great take down defense against average wrestlers but Khabib is on another level when it comes to grappling, it is not that easy to improve the cardio just like that, if that was that easy he would have done that already before fighting in the UFC  Cheesy.

But first, we need to see how it goes for Tony, but the good news for Conor fans is that it doesn't matter the outcome, the rematch is happening 100% assuming Conor doesn't fight before the rematch and losses.. perhaps that would kill the buzz, so if he fights he MUST win.
Tony is the fight we need to see against Khabib and in the mean time Conor has to fight someone else, Dustin Poirier will be the perfect opponent for Cornor as both lost against Khabib and they faced each other at 145 pounds.
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October 08, 2019, 01:49:27 AM
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Cool stuff you can watch is Ariel Helwani MMA Show
I missed it live so I will watch it now.
Guests:  Israel Adesanya, Jared Cannonier,  Mike Tyson, Dan Hooker and. others...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjYFkz0n2Fg

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October 08, 2019, 04:52:44 AM
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Now I am wondering what was that event that his fight was not appreciated by UFC.
Since you made me wonder as well, I did a little research. Israel Adesanya got 6 awards on his 7 fights: four Performance of the Night and 2 Fight of the Night. He got those Performance of the Night against Brunson, Tavarez, Wilkinson and Whittaker (currently) while he get the latter two when he fought Gastelum and Silva. The only match where he don't get an award is his match against Marvin Vettori Smiley.

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October 08, 2019, 05:08:13 AM
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Looking forward to my girl MACKENZIE DERN fighting AMANDA RIBAS at UFC FIGHT NIGHT 161


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October 08, 2019, 06:41:57 AM
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Looking forward to my girl MACKENZIE DERN fighting AMANDA RIBAS at UFC FIGHT NIGHT 161
I am looking forward to see her fight but she is coming after a long gap after giving birth to her child, so it is really difficult to predict how she will come back being a mom and perform the same way she used to do in the past.

Since you made me wonder as well, I did a little research. Israel Adesanya got 6 awards on his 7 fights: four Performance of the Night and 2 Fight of the Night. He got those Performance of the Night against Brunson, Tavarez, Wilkinson and Whittaker (currently) while he get the latter two when he fought Gastelum and Silva. The only match where he don't get an award is his match against Marvin Vettori Smiley.
Israel Adesanya is the face of UFC in a short time, he started fighting in UFC in 2018 and within two years he became the champion is an incredible feat.
When i  see these kind of meteoric rise i feel sad for Tony Ferguson who is performing at the top level for a very very long time and still he was not able to fight for the belt.
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October 08, 2019, 07:35:54 AM
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Looks like next stop for Israel Adesanya is Paulo Costa, a Brazilian with a record of 13-0-0, he defeated Yoel Romero in UFC 241, Uriah Hall in UFC 226 and Johny Hendricks in UFC 217. After beating Wittaker in UFC 243, You can see Israel Adesanya giving the DX Generation "suck it" move and Paulo Costa pointing his fingers back to Israel Adesanya. Plan is have a PPV match between this two at March 2020. Lets see if this will happen.
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October 08, 2019, 08:00:44 AM
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Israel Adesanya is the face of UFC in a short time, he started fighting in UFC in 2018 and within two years he became the champion is an incredible feat.
It was amazing, right Shocked? Aside from that, I've read a post saying that he is also a fighter which did 10 knockdowns in all of his 7 fights. I only saw it on FB a while ago, free to correct me if I'm wrong Grin.
Looks like next stop for Israel Adesanya is Paulo Costa, a Brazilian with a record of 13-0-0
Most probably he would be his next opponent if Dana agree on it (especially that Adesanya personally call Costa after his fight against Whittaker). I'm exciting for this because they're both undefeated but only one clean record will remain.
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October 08, 2019, 10:46:31 AM
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I think we may see something afteral in future for Israel Adesanya vs Jon Jones fight.
Sparks started with comments from both sides.
Jon Jones tweet:
https://twitter.com/espnmma/status/1181068889536389120


That's just Adesanya setting it up for a future bout.  I doubt he'll fight Jon Jones now.  He's too skinny...  He needs at least a year to fill up for LHW imo.

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October 08, 2019, 12:57:34 PM
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That's just Adesanya setting it up for a future bout.  I doubt he'll fight Jon Jones now.  He's too skinny...  He needs at least a year to fill up for LHW imo.

Watched him in latest Ariel Helwani MMA show , where he said that Jon Jones should be ready for him in 2021,
but Jon Jones also wants to go one category higher. Anything can happen
 

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October 08, 2019, 03:12:24 PM
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It was amazing, right Shocked? Aside from that, I've read a post saying that he is also a fighter which did 10 knockdowns in all of his 7 fights. I only saw it on FB a while ago, free to correct me if I'm wrong Grin.
Israel Adesanya is a striking specialist and he has more than 29 knock out in Kickboxing in 80 fights and he has done some boxing matches too and that too professionally before entering the UFC, Daniel Cormier asked the help of Israel Adesanya to prepare for his fight against Jon Jones back in the day even before he was famous in the MMA circles and he rejected that because Luke Rockhold was the champion during that time.
In MMA he has 14 knockouts in 18 fights and it is not a big surprise as he is an elite striker and i expect a challenge from a wrestler, i would like to watch him fight Yoel Romero and Ronaldo Souza in the future.


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October 08, 2019, 03:55:37 PM
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@pereira4 A rematch isn't happening unless Connor pulls out some stupid shit as the bus incident again, iyam that won't end well for him this time Tongue Khabib won't be taking a re-match until Connor proves himself to be worthy, which I don't see happening as he has got all the money in the world now. Tongue I do agree with @SaShiRaJaVu Connor vs Dustin makes perfect sense and to see Connor "Back the fucking talk".

You may argue about the fight being 'good' for business but remember khabib ain't about money, He is all about his 'Legacy'. The way dude is disciplined I doubt any amount of money will be able to convince him. Tongue
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October 08, 2019, 03:56:39 PM
Last edit: October 08, 2019, 04:08:23 PM by Saint-loup
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Looking forward to my girl MACKENZIE DERN fighting AMANDA RIBAS at UFC FIGHT NIGHT 161


Nice records... Roll Eyes I didn't know her. A great BJJ fighter obviously. It will be hard for Ribas to beat her IMO

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October 08, 2019, 04:16:26 PM
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~snip

Watched him in latest Ariel Helwani MMA show , where he said that Jon Jones should be ready for him in 2021,
but Jon Jones also wants to go one category higher. Anything can happen
We're not even sure if Adesanya will remain undefeated next year. He will probably fight two or three more fights to defend his title provided he remains free of serious injuries.

A Jones-Miocic fight would be interesting. A Jones-Comier at heavyweight would be nice too but I think we've seen enough of them.
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October 08, 2019, 09:14:25 PM
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Looks like next stop for Israel Adesanya is Paulo Costa, a Brazilian with a record of 13-0-0, he defeated Yoel Romero in UFC 241, Uriah Hall in UFC 226 and Johny Hendricks in UFC 217. After beating Wittaker in UFC 243, You can see Israel Adesanya giving the DX Generation "suck it" move and Paulo Costa pointing his fingers back to Israel Adesanya. Plan is have a PPV match between this two at March 2020. Lets see if this will happen.

Looks like this is a logical match to set up by Dana. Those two are really going at it in the social media so it makes sense for them to fight.

Costa said that he can easily beat Adesanya and he is very confident of himself. Love to see the press conference here, and hear the insults.  Grin


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October 08, 2019, 11:05:33 PM
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There is no doubt that Khabib rematching against Conor will be another highest grossing PPV and that is the reason Dana White is also really interested in this match up.

People denying this fact are just living in lalaland. Conor McGregor hatting has become a mental disease in the MMA world. They live in an alternative reality in which they argue Conor McGregor isn't a draw anymore, when he is still the number 1 PPV attraction by a mile.

There is no way Conor will have the stamina to last five rounds with Khabib, the only situation i see is a flash knock out and if it goes the second round then there is no way Conor is going to beat Khabib.

I also have big doubts he can do it. He has all the resources in the world, best minds in the game to tweak his stamina, but I believe ultimately it comes down to genetics. I still believe Conor can get the job done even if by a small margin, if he tweaks certain things.

Conor has a great take down defense against average wrestlers but Khabib is on another level when it comes to grappling, it is not that easy to improve the cardio just like that, if that was that easy he would have done that already before fighting in the UFC  Cheesy.

Khabib is a great grappler but people are missing the fact that he isn't an elite traditional grappler. He would get beaten in a straight grappling matchup against purebreed American elite wrestlers. What he does is a special mix of grecoroman, wrestling and sambo. He wouldn't be as effective without having the net. I would like him to fight in a ring, things would be very different.

Tony is the fight we need to see against Khabib and in the mean time Conor has to fight someone else, Dustin Poirier will be the perfect opponent for Cornor as both lost against Khabib and they faced each other at 145 pounds.

Dustin rematch woudl be cool but I doubt we'll see it. I understand why Conor wanted Frankie Edgar. He wants people that fight as similar as Khabib as possible and Dustin is a very different fighter. But then again he doesn't have any fights that could be pretty huge even if any fight Conor is huge, but Dusting rematch is the biggest story maker.
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October 09, 2019, 03:00:27 AM
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I am not thrilled with upcoming UFC Fight Night 161 Jedrzejczyk vs. Waterson, in Florida.
There are no heavyweight fights or any specific fighter that I follow...
Do you have any news and predicitons?

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October 09, 2019, 03:18:26 AM
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I think we may see something afteral in future for Israel Adesanya vs Jon Jones fight.
There are more interesting match ups for Israel Adesanya and he has his hands full as there are a lot of talented fighters waiting in the ranks to face him before trying his luck in a different weight division, fighting against Jon Jones right now will be a suicide, Adesanya has the opportunity to make a legacy and be a dominant champion in his weight division and then think about facing anyone above his weight class.
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