🥊 The UFC Info and Prediction Thread

[OgNasty]

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Petr Yan VS Sean O'Malley will be an amazing fight to watch, I'm sure about it. In this fight, we will really see striking skills. The first fight was so amazing and Yan was terribly robbed.

This is the matchup to make right now. Even Sean O'Malley is calling for the title shot, and it is possible we will see this matchup next. The other opponent option is Song Yadong, after his upset win over Umar Nurmagomedov. With the way Petr Yan won against Merab, Yan will be the favorite going into the match.

In the second fight (if it happens) Yan will be robbed again UFC would put a lot of effort to make their milking cow O'Malley have belt again. Sean is way more media guy than Yan and he would definitely sell more and bring more people to follow UFC. There no secret how fight would go. Sean will take first round, then all he needs to do is not to let Yan dominate and he will win 29-28 again. As a champ Yan will be a favorite by bookies, but that is also exactly what I and UFC need

I am not sure the UFC has any say in the appointment of the referee or the ringside judges. If my understanding is correct, the commission overseeing the event handles these aspects. It is true that the UFC would prefer Sean O'Malley as their champion, as he has the ability to generate hype.

I don’t think Yan got robbed against Suga Sean. I think he just matches up horribly against him. He’s way too short and Sean has a crazy reach for that weight class. That matches Sean’s biggest strength with Yan’s biggest weakness. Yan might even be the better fighter overall, but in this matchup I think Suga wins.

[pawel7777]

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I don’t think Yan got robbed against Suga Sean. I think he just matches up horribly against him. He’s way too short and Sean has a crazy reach for that weight class. That matches Sean’s biggest strength with Yan’s biggest weakness. Yan might even be the better fighter overall, but in this matchup I think Suga wins.

When I watched the fight, I thought Yan did enough to win. He was the favourite and Sean did well neutralising most of Yan's attempts, which was a positive surprise and he did better than I expected, but I still saw Yan as the winner.
Even Sean initially said that he thought he lost. He later changed his mind, saying he re-watched the fight and thought he rightfully scored more points.

Anyhow, a controversy is a good thing, and it helps to sell the rematch.
Unless one of them gets injured, I can't imagine the UFC not pairing them up for their next fight. I think both of them would want it.

[TopTort777]

I'm hearing rumours about Islam's potential retirement.
Mainstream media are already reporting on this: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/mixed-martial-arts/articles/cq70p7lx04eeo but according to this article, he said that his next fight will be "one of the last" in his career, so not the last one.
It would be a shame if he retired after his next fight. He just turned 35 a few days ago and I expected him to fight for at least another year, maybe two. Justin Gaethje reached the top of the toughest weight class at 37, so Islam calling it a day at 35 would seem a bit premature, but he knows himself best, and it's his decision to make.

The UFC won't be the same without him. When Khabib retired, Islam carried on his legacy, but with Islam departure, the era of undefeatable Dagestanis comes to an end. Umar is not quite up there in terms of expectations. Maybe if Usman Nurmagomedov signs up with the UFC the story will continue, but I don't think he's the same calibre.

Islam holds a record for the longest win streak in UFC history, currently at 17.

If he listens to Khabib, who has said about fighter has only one prime and after 33 should retire, then Islam should have retired long time ago. I think its not right to use age factor as some kind of measurement how long fighters should keep fighting. Gaethje took belt at 37, but nobody believed in him, the same as nobody believe he would beat Pimblett. Randy Couture took belt at 44, Texeira at 42, Anderson Silva defended title when was almost 40. That does not mean that Islam should fight till he turns 64 (that is the age when men in Russia can go to pension officially)

If we look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UFC_records#Most_wins I dont see what record could Islam beat if he keep on fighting. He could have returned to lightweight and have 2 more wins to set record by wins in single division.

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I noticed a recent news about Islam Makhachev, where he hinted at his retirement. Looking at the headline of the news, it seemed that the next match could be his last match. But he has not clarified the matter yet. Khabib's retirement came quite unexpectedly, where he mentioned the death of his father and said that he would not fight again. Islam Makhachev's fight match is now equal to Khabib's. He is in a good position now. Even during Khabib's time, he decided to retire at the best of his career. Although, if his father had not died, we could have seen some more fights.

It looks like Islam Makhachev has hinted about having his last fight through his social media page. He wants the winner between Carlos Prates and Michael Morales. If that turns out to be his very last fight, I won't be surprised. He has turned 35, and Umar Nurmagomedov just suffered a knockout defeat. These factors are more than enough to trigger serious discussions about retirement, and that might be why they reached this conclusion.

He said it will be one of his last fight, not his latest fight in UFC, which means that maybe he will fight once more again after this upcoming fight and then he will retire.
Honestly, he is 35 years old and has a perfect record. He is also in a higher division, which, I think that makes things easier for him in terms of weight cut but it also makes his every fight riskier because he has to face bigger opponents. It will be the perfect move for him to finish his career after two fights. He will keep an amazing record and he will also have lots of money in the pocket.

[BluebloodCXVI]

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Petr Yan VS Sean O'Malley will be an amazing fight to watch, I'm sure about it. In this fight, we will really see striking skills. The first fight was so amazing and Yan was terribly robbed.

This is the matchup to make right now. Even Sean O'Malley is calling for the title shot, and it is possible we will see this matchup next. The other opponent option is Song Yadong, after his upset win over Umar Nurmagomedov. With the way Petr Yan won against Merab, Yan will be the favorite going into the match.

In the second fight (if it happens) Yan will be robbed again UFC would put a lot of effort to make their milking cow O'Malley have belt again. Sean is way more media guy than Yan and he would definitely sell more and bring more people to follow UFC. There no secret how fight would go. Sean will take first round, then all he needs to do is not to let Yan dominate and he will win 29-28 again. As a champ Yan will be a favorite by bookies, but that is also exactly what I and UFC need

I am not sure the UFC has any say in the appointment of the referee or the ringside judges. If my understanding is correct, the commission overseeing the event handles these aspects. It is true that the UFC would prefer Sean O'Malley as their champion, as he has the ability to generate hype.

I don’t think Yan got robbed against Suga Sean. I think he just matches up horribly against him. He’s way too short and Sean has a crazy reach for that weight class. That matches Sean’s biggest strength with Yan’s biggest weakness. Yan might even be the better fighter overall, but in this matchup I think Suga wins.

OG let’s be honest here, Petr Yan was robbed against O Malley and nobody can convince me otherwise cos i watched it live.
The most correct possible outcome of that fight should have been a draw but someway somehow they just had to tilt it to favor Sean O Malley when the fight stats and the media were saying otherwise; c’mon now we know how all these things go but let’s pretend like we don’t.

I hope Yan gives Sean that rematch though, would love to see them run it back especially with Yan current form. Merab beat Sean twice but Yan beat merab twice too, i think that shows that he’s a better all round fighter than Sean even currently and if they were to fight, i strongly believe he would win, hell i would even bet on it especially if it’s a five round fight.

[TopTort777]

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I noticed a recent news about Islam Makhachev, where he hinted at his retirement. Looking at the headline of the news, it seemed that the next match could be his last match. But he has not clarified the matter yet. Khabib's retirement came quite unexpectedly, where he mentioned the death of his father and said that he would not fight again. Islam Makhachev's fight match is now equal to Khabib's. He is in a good position now. Even during Khabib's time, he decided to retire at the best of his career. Although, if his father had not died, we could have seen some more fights.

It looks like Islam Makhachev has hinted about having his last fight through his social media page. He wants the winner between Carlos Prates and Michael Morales. If that turns out to be his very last fight, I won't be surprised. He has turned 35, and Umar Nurmagomedov just suffered a knockout defeat. These factors are more than enough to trigger serious discussions about retirement, and that might be why they reached this conclusion.

He said it will be one of his last fight, not his latest fight in UFC, which means that maybe he will fight once more again after this upcoming fight and then he will retire.
Honestly, he is 35 years old and has a perfect record. He is also in a higher division, which, I think that makes things easier for him in terms of weight cut but it also makes his every fight riskier because he has to face bigger opponents. It will be the perfect move for him to finish his career after two fights. He will keep an amazing record and he will also have lots of money in the pocket.

We can look on situation with Makhachev retirement differently. Despite Prates and Morales, who deserve or have chance to beat him? This should be a guy with big skulls in his record and good series of wins (lets say 3-4 win streak as minimum). Maybe Bonfim only is a decent opponent, but Makhachev also need for Bonfim to win his next fights, otherwise he misses title chance. It will be again, waiting for Islam. Waiting is no good for him. Then maybe he is thinking about retirement, because sees lack of challenge in nearest time. Fighting everyone just to fight also is not the best option.

[TopTort777]

Btw guys, we have missed a big date - it has passed 1 years since Tom Aspinall got his eye injury. When do you think he would return? I havent search much, but still havent got a detail info about his injury. It was always: I cant see, I had surgery, I cant train. Even UFC went silent on Aspinall case. Cant wait for him to return to combat sport.

[tokeweed]

^  The division already moved on and the UFC attempted to get Pereira get on his spot at HW.  But Gane said no.  Lolol. 

Aspinall is prolly thinking if Gane could take on Pereira then so could he.  It was a missed opportunity for a huge fight with what might have cemented Aspinall's stardom.  But I guess there's really something wrong with his eye.

[TopTort777]

Have you heard that Netflix is filming a documentary film about Dana White ? I think that would be interesting content to watch. As it is a documentary, they are not going to show White only in bright colors. Maybe something backstage info about finances in UFC (contracts, payments) will be revealed. Or (as I believe) there are strained relations between Netflix and Dana, Netflix might create a pretty negative movie about him At least we would find out why UFC and Netflix deal failed and hear it from Netflix side.

[tokeweed]

^  Yeah it'll show a neutral point of view about Dana White me thinks.  I mean pretty sure he ain't all good but he's also achieved more things than all of us ever will itt.  We're must bums in a sig campaign.  Lolol. 

Here's another prediction vid.

UFC Vegas 124 Picks, Bets, Props | Cortes-Acosta VS Walker Fight Previews, Predictions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUnyS9s4vUo

I'm kinda busy irl this week.  Gonna do the degen parlays tomorrow or the day after.

[TopTort777]

Just make sure yo check your little helpers and correct them if they have chosen Walker for some reason As we might get another.



I remember Acosta blocked with his face all Pavlovich bombs, that is why I am not afraid that former LH will cause much problem or manage to win in this fight.

Btw, does anyone like Prates custom shorts lol ?



When fighters go to ice bath for recovery, Prates goes to this kind of bath. Damn, imagine what would be if Prates was more disciplined and has a regular fighter lifestyle. Then we would not have cancelled Makhachev vs Prates this January. I wish Prates behavior is not just an image UFC made for him, and he would achieve much in UFC, as he is trolling everyone and is a funny anti example of who a fighter should be.

[Noorooo]

Why is no one talking about this fight which is happening on November 14 at Madison Square Garden in New York? Which fighter do you guys think will win?

My money is on Gane. I think he will knock out this UFC’s biggest trash talker. To be honest guys I think Gane is currently the best heavyweight fighter. No one is on his level right now. Even if Jon Jones makes a comeback and fights him again which I don’t think he will .i believe he will lose badly.

Guys share your thoughts on this November 14 fight.

[eaLiTy]

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He said it will be one of his last fight, not his latest fight in UFC, which means that maybe he will fight once more again after this upcoming fight and then he will retire.
Honestly, he is 35 years old and has a perfect record. He is also in a higher division, which, I think that makes things easier for him in terms of weight cut but it also makes his every fight riskier because he has to face bigger opponents. It will be the perfect move for him to finish his career after two fights. He will keep an amazing record and he will also have lots of money in the pocket.

Dana White already made his opinion clear about Islam pulling out of the January card, stating he isn't happy about dragging out the division, which is what I believe prompted Islam's tweet. Islam has already made a lot of money and has major sponsors backing him in the GCC countries.

Any fight at welterweight is a massive challenge, whether it's against Carlos Prates or Michael Morales so ending his illustrious career after that is not a bad idea at all. We will know the opponent after UFC 336.

Have you heard that Netflix is filming a documentary film about Dana White ? I think that would be interesting content to watch. As it is a documentary, they are not going to show White only in bright colors. Maybe something backstage info about finances in UFC (contracts, payments) will be revealed. Or (as I believe) there are strained relations between Netflix and Dana, Netflix might create a pretty negative movie about him At least we would find out why UFC and Netflix deal failed and hear it from Netflix side.

The only reason Netflix didn't get the deal is that they only wanted to telecast the pay per view cards and not the smaller Fight Night shows. They had already signed the WWE deal, and since both promotions are owned by TKO, Netflix was definitely the preferred platform for the owners. But once Netflix flatly refused to carry the lower volume shows, the entire package went to Paramount instead, and these details were shared by the TKO owner during a podcast.

It is highly unlikely Dana White would allow a documentary about himself and allow them to shade him in a negative light.

[notblox1]

I have to say that I like upcoming UFC main event, and I am giving slight advantage to Johnny Walker this time.
He is having reach advantage Waldo bill be more desperate to win after he lost previous two fights in UFC.
Waldo is heavier and slower and it is strange to me that bookmakers made him such a big favorite.
Best value bet for me is Johny Walker to win, but it is risky, so only lower stakes.


https://sportsbet.io/sports/mma/ufc/ufc/matches?event=waldo-cortes-acosta-vs-johnny-walker-0010c6c17f00000000000000

[Balmain]

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Petr Yan VS Sean O'Malley will be an amazing fight to watch, I'm sure about it. In this fight, we will really see striking skills. The first fight was so amazing and Yan was terribly robbed.

This is the matchup to make right now. Even Sean O'Malley is calling for the title shot, and it is possible we will see this matchup next. The other opponent option is Song Yadong, after his upset win over Umar Nurmagomedov. With the way Petr Yan won against Merab, Yan will be the favorite going into the match.

In the second fight (if it happens) Yan will be robbed again UFC would put a lot of effort to make their milking cow O'Malley have belt again. Sean is way more media guy than Yan and he would definitely sell more and bring more people to follow UFC. There no secret how fight would go. Sean will take first round, then all he needs to do is not to let Yan dominate and he will win 29-28 again. As a champ Yan will be a favorite by bookies, but that is also exactly what I and UFC need

I am not sure the UFC has any say in the appointment of the referee or the ringside judges. If my understanding is correct, the commission overseeing the event handles these aspects. It is true that the UFC would prefer Sean O'Malley as their champion, as he has the ability to generate hype.

I don’t think Yan got robbed against Suga Sean. I think he just matches up horribly against him. He’s way too short and Sean has a crazy reach for that weight class. That matches Sean’s biggest strength with Yan’s biggest weakness. Yan might even be the better fighter overall, but in this matchup I think Suga wins.

There’s a lot of talk about Yan being robbed in this fight, but I don’t really see it that way. Suga Sean is a very good striker, and he knows how to use his reach to his advantage. He can land some really good shots from a distance. It was a very close fight, so naturally there will be two different opinions about the result. In his latest podcast appearance, O’Malley said that he wants this fight and also mentioned that he would be prepared for Yan’s wrestling game.

[TopTort777]

Why is no one talking about this fight which is happening on November 14 at Madison Square Garden in New York? Which fighter do you guys think will win?

Because we have an event that will run before Gane vs Hokit.

Have you heard that Netflix is filming a documentary film about Dana White ? I think that would be interesting content to watch. As it is a documentary, they are not going to show White only in bright colors. Maybe something backstage info about finances in UFC (contracts, payments) will be revealed. Or (as I believe) there are strained relations between Netflix and Dana, Netflix might create a pretty negative movie about him At least we would find out why UFC and Netflix deal failed and hear it from Netflix side.

The only reason Netflix didn't get the deal is that they only wanted to telecast the pay per view cards and not the smaller Fight Night shows. They had already signed the WWE deal, and since both promotions are owned by TKO, Netflix was definitely the preferred platform for the owners. But once Netflix flatly refused to carry the lower volume shows, the entire package went to Paramount instead, and these details were shared by the TKO owner during a podcast.

It is highly unlikely Dana White would allow a documentary about himself and allow them to shade him in a negative light.

Even if the negative light is the truth about him? If Netflix and UFC deal has failed due to fight nights and filler events, then why Netflix havent signed Zuffa boxing and also left rights to Paramount+? Do you think that was also part of UFC+Paramount deal?

I have to say that I like upcoming UFC main event, and I am giving slight advantage to Johnny Walker this time.
He is having reach advantage Waldo bill be more desperate to win after he lost previous two fights in UFC.
Waldo is heavier and slower and it is strange to me that bookmakers made him such a big favorite.
Best value bet for me is Johny Walker to win, but it is risky, so only lower stakes.

Are you betting on this fight? Because my crystal ball shows that Waldo is winning it. Walker has a habit of eating a lot of punches and going down by KO, Waldo has finished a lot of opponents. Walker if  wins, then by knockout or goes to sleep himself, so I expect him to go only forward with low defense. Imho fight wont go full distance and in duel who is going to KO first his opponent, I see Waldo as winner.

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^  The division already moved on and the UFC attempted to get Pereira get on his spot at HW.  But Gane said no.  Lolol. 

It's interesting to see how he performs against Pavlovich on December. He is usually good at recovering and fighting better after the lose. I would even say that if he had an instant rematch against Gane, he could win it.

As it is a documentary, they are not going to show White only in bright colors.

Well, he was about to make a deal with Netflix but then chose Paramount instead, of course Netflix is not gonna show only his positive side

My money is on Gane. I think he will knock out this UFC’s biggest trash talker.

UFC's biggest trash talker? C'mon, he is probably the dumbest and the rudest trash talker. Conor was funny, Hokit is rude, that's the difference.

There’s a lot of talk about Yan being robbed in this fight, but I don’t really see it that way. Suga Sean is a very good striker, and he knows how to use his reach to his advantage. He can land some really good shots from a distance. It was a very close fight, so naturally there will be two different opinions about the result. In his latest podcast appearance, O’Malley said that he wants this fight and also mentioned that he would be prepared for Yan’s wrestling game.

How many times did you watch the fight? Honestly, when I watched it for the first time, it was enough for me to understand that Yan was robbed but the second time I watched it, I was 100% sure that Yan got robbed.

[eaLiTy]

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Have you heard that Netflix is filming a documentary film about Dana White ? I think that would be interesting content to watch. As it is a documentary, they are not going to show White only in bright colors. Maybe something backstage info about finances in UFC (contracts, payments) will be revealed. Or (as I believe) there are strained relations between Netflix and Dana, Netflix might create a pretty negative movie about him At least we would find out why UFC and Netflix deal failed and hear it from Netflix side.

The only reason Netflix didn't get the deal is that they only wanted to telecast the pay per view cards and not the smaller Fight Night shows. They had already signed the WWE deal, and since both promotions are owned by TKO, Netflix was definitely the preferred platform for the owners. But once Netflix flatly refused to carry the lower volume shows, the entire package went to Paramount instead, and these details were shared by the TKO owner during a podcast.

It is highly unlikely Dana White would allow a documentary about himself and allow them to shade him in a negative light.

Even if the negative light is the truth about him? If Netflix and UFC deal has failed due to fight nights and filler events, then why Netflix havent signed Zuffa boxing and also left rights to Paramount+? Do you think that was also part of UFC+Paramount deal?

I just checked the director of the Dana White documentary and his past works. He is the one who directed the ones for Sachin Tendulkar, Kobe Bryant, Stephen Curry, and Tom Brady. These were all positive profiles and represented in a dignified way, not something like 60 Minutes. 

Regarding the deals with Netflix and Zuffa Boxing, the reason Netflix were not interested was that they are not willing to take on live events every week. Zuffa Boxing is created to replicate the UFC model with weekly events in the future. Netflix purchased streaming rights for WWE for $5 billion, and maybe they were just not interested in paying that much for real fights. 

[SPIDERMAN008]

Yes bro I am confirm that he will retire after his upcoming fight, whether it's against Prates or Morales. He will retire from the sport at the highest point of his career. He is one of my favourite fighters and honestly, I have mixed feelings about his retirement. I am happy for him, but at the same time, I am sad to see him leave the sport. One thing I have noticed is that when fighters like Khabib announce their retirement, they usually mean it and never come back to compete again. Khabib and Islam both came to the UFC, conquered their divisions, and then walked away on their own terms. Now I think Usman could be the next one to carry that legacy forward after Islam and make his own mark in the UFC.

He did not confirm whether the next match will be his last fight or not. But he hinted. He said that the next fight is one of the last fights. But if he makes an announcement after the fight that it is going to be his last fight, then the matter will be clear there and his fighting career will end. Basically, he said in the interview that his mother basically does not want him to do fighting. And he said that he will respect his mother's wishes very soon. And yes, it is true that when they announce their retirement, they will not return to the octagon. Now after his retirement, we will lose another quality mma fighter. Many of those who like ufc liked Islam a lot after Khabib. And Islam is also going in the same direction as Khabib.

His statement.

[TopTort777]

There are rumours that Shavat Rakhamonov has re-injured his knee. There were short videos where he has been training punches, avoiding throwing any kicks and wrestling. I dont remember even when he was fighting last time (only remember that opponent was Ian Garry). If that is true, 32 years, 19-0 and retired one step before becoming a champ. Sad. Do you think fighters can return to big sport after double knee injury and years of pause?