tbct_mt2
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May 12, 2019, 08:18:34 AM |
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Just out of curiosity, do we catch now only the copy-pasters or we can catch those using word spinners as well with this script??
Text spinners, I understood what you mean: Text spinning/disguised plagiarismhowever, only unknown bot-creator(s) can answer the question.
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blurryeyed
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TIME TO BAN THE YOBIT SCAM!!
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May 12, 2019, 11:01:45 AM |
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Weak sauce, only 6 lies in 5 sentences, that's gonna bring your average down. Try harder lest Livecoin fire you for not enough shitposting. Livecoin - it's the new Yobit.....lol
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bitart
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May 12, 2019, 11:37:33 AM |
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Just out of curiosity, do we catch now only the copy-pasters or we can catch those using word spinners as well with this script??
Text spinners, I understood what you mean: Text spinning/disguised plagiarismhowever, only unknown bot-creator(s) can answer the question. I'm also interested in the text spinning detection, because it's really sad that you see a newbie, posting a wall of text and you're sure that it's not genuie and it's been copied and pasted from somewhere, but you can't google for it, because it has been spinned... and it's really hard to detect that... Universities and other schools are also searching for plagiarism somehow, do they keep their methods in secret?
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naska21
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May 12, 2019, 12:42:08 PM Last edit: May 12, 2019, 03:46:57 PM by naska21 |
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Regarding current wave in fighting against plagiarism, I wonder what is the initial starting point for the last. Is that two-three-...-words cliche or whole sentence/s? From where I sit, many phrases are in circulation on WEB and nobody can be sure his own one is unique.
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1miau
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Currently not much available - see my websitelink
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May 12, 2019, 04:54:53 PM |
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@LoyceV Is it possible to scrape the data how much Merit has been destroyed by the recent bans?
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pandukelana2712
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May 12, 2019, 06:02:19 PM |
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Does someone ever thought of the guys from cryptios did it? Their main specialization right now is high-security, social-engineering-proof customer support & community moderation.
And they can do something with our account just like this, IMO: I've now locked it!
Btw, anyone who did this, they have great tools!
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Quickseller
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May 12, 2019, 06:03:59 PM |
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So someone created a working bot to detect them?
I have no idea how he spots them but he does a good job. Suchmoon is transparently one of the people who is reporting plagiarized posts (I am not sure if this is who you are referring to). She is transparently scraping posts in the forum and putting them in some kind of database, which is concerning for a variety of reasons, including the type of business she is in and her lack of integrity. She is most probably cross referencing posts in her database with some other database and/or with google/another search engine. She also targets, in part specific members, and I know this because she was able to cite a plagiarized post that Redsn0w created from many years ago that was written in a thread with a very small number of posts, and the most recent post in the thread was also from many years ago. I would not make her a mod, and I think a decent number of people would leave if she was made a mod, or if it was discovered she was a mod. All of the posts here are all public with the exception of a few boards? (No idea what they are, not the point) so if all the information is public anyway, why does it matter if its collected and saved or not? If you think anything you publicly post on the internet isn't saved than you are just kidding yourself. The information is public but all of the information is not easily obtainable publicly. Having access to the collective information allows someone to conclude things such as sleeping patters and other private information. This type of information is very similar to the information cambridge analytica got from facebook, that is public information in very large quantities.
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tbct_mt2
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May 13, 2019, 03:41:43 AM |
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@LoyceV Is it possible to scrape the data how much Merit has been destroyed by the recent bans?
There are destroyed merits with those banned accounts, but I don't think the figure is significant, or at least it will be much smaller than destroyed merits in early period after January of 2018 (when merit system started). Currently, it has been more than one year after birthday of merit system, so I guess numbers of users whom still hoard all (or most) of their merits are limited.
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mikeywith
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be constructive or S.T.F.U
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May 13, 2019, 04:38:26 AM |
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If you may ask me, this is pretty scary as hell. I know I have never plagiarized in the past or shared contents without citing sources but hey, I have seen legendary members, even some DT members and also people who have been bursting plagiarized white papers get the bans lately I'm just waiting for something to nuke me: It's very likely that I made a mistake somewhere during my shitposting days. I can relate, i wanted to manually check my 1800+ posts and i was like fuck it , noway i got the time for that, then i looked at your post count and .... good luck.
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Petyab21
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May 13, 2019, 11:21:29 AM |
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My husband account got banned because he copy paste h is own reply to another tread. here is appeal with no reply since: reason: Autoban user: N/A in topic #0 by member #1977670 i was hoping to get reply from a team or moderator who banned my account, to get an idea what is the problem. I go thru all my post yesterday to get an idea what triggered your attention to ban my account. Please check my post here if you agree my account is worth a ban: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1977670;sa=showPostsThe only post that might be a problem is no 4 and 7. I did post two similar answer to two different topic with similar topic. I didn't see this as spamming. I did copy paste my answer and change it a bit as i thought it will better express the opinion. Anyway i understand you have rules you need to follow in order to control the quality of the forum. If you can get my account un-banned please let me know. Otherwise i will leave this forum to others and i will use it only for reading it. Looking forward to get reply to my appeal. Thank you and best regards
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mirakal
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May 13, 2019, 11:25:42 AM |
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Lots of ban accounts lately, I just can't believe that a huge number of accounts are ban for copy pasting, at least that's what I read as the reply from the mods in most complaints here in Meta. Actually I hope the admin can review this, maybe giving them another chance is good, they need to learn from their mistakes, perma ban does not give them any chance anymore.
We want to see the people grow here, some just don't bother to read the rules of the forum, and some just made an honest mistake or some just don't understand what plagiarism is.
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Petyab21
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May 13, 2019, 11:51:30 AM |
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posting from my wifes acc. She did only register last year. It is fine to at least post some question here since no reply from admins.
I didn't know copy paste of my own post is against the rules. I admit that might be taken as spamming but if this is one post out of 200 then maybe this is not a habit of posting like this every day. I hope someone will review at least and give another chance. I think this is not to big failure to get banned.
Also my others post are not that bad i think and followed all the rules.
Take care all and i hope i will re-join you soon from my account.
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hilariousandco
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May 13, 2019, 06:22:49 PM |
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posting from my wifes acc. She did only register last year. It is fine to at least post some question here since no reply from admins.
I didn't know copy paste of my own post is against the rules. I admit that might be taken as spamming but if this is one post out of 200 then maybe this is not a habit of posting like this every day. I hope someone will review at least and give another chance. I think this is not to big failure to get banned.
Also my others post are not that bad i think and followed all the rules.
Take care all and i hope i will re-join you soon from my account.
You can't plagiarise yourself. Copying the same post into another or multiple threads would at worst get you a temp ban if it was deemed spam. The post that was reported was this: ZANTEPAY provides cryptocurrency multiwallet / debit card integration. You can spend your bitcoin, litecoin, ethereum and zantecoin anytime, anywhere. Sign up and pre-order your crypto card FREE of charge. Referral, affiliate bonus and cashback paid out in zantecoin and ethereum. Have a look at our awesome project, white paper, team and advisory board. Join ZANTEPAY, we bring cryptocurrency to the mainstream!
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tbct_mt2
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May 14, 2019, 01:26:35 AM Last edit: May 14, 2019, 01:36:39 AM by tbct_mt2 |
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Actually I hope the admin can review this, maybe giving them another chance is good, they need to learn from their mistakes, perma ban does not give them any chance anymore.
Alternative solutions for permanent bans also discussed long time ago but it did not go nowhere. With the latest permanent ban wave, we might see something changed. However, changes, if implemented, might only appy for constructive users, whom actually made positive net-effects in the forum. For others, whom did not contribute anything, or significant contributions, I doubt that they might have second chance, even with fixed-period of signature bans. Alternatives to Permabans for plagarismShould we have alternatives to permabans for plagiarism You may only select up to 2 options. - Yes - Signature ban - whether permanent or temporary
- Yes - Signature ban indefinitely until they've earned x amount of merit
- Yes - Pay some sort of fine
- No - Nothing should change and permabans remain
Current Vote's results: Personally, I support the first one, or a combination between the first and the second options: I suggest that banned users have second chances to come back if they actually satisfy two things: - Fixed period of signature ban (how long signature ban lasts for level of plagiarism severity might be discussed, but I don't think we should discuss it too much. Only one or two fixed period are enough).
- Earning enough x amount of merits (this one might create another kind of merit abusements, if it is the only requirement to get second chances. However, with combination like I suggested, merit abusements won't give them chance to come back.)
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tbct_mt2
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May 14, 2019, 06:38:34 AM Last edit: May 20, 2019, 06:49:27 AM by tbct_mt2 |
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Another day, another 137 Autobans:
Update 13 May 201921/137 Autobans are from Full Member and above ranks. Accounts from Full Member and above ranks account for nearly 15.3% of yesterday Autobans. The percentage of Autobans of ranks are 38.1%, 23.8%, and 14.3% for Full Member, Senior & Hero member, and Legendary ranks, respectively.
Source: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5141807.msg51025312#msg51025312Legendary: 1. Legendary provenceday ( Trust: neutral) ( BPIP) 2. Legendary bram_vnl ( Trust: neutral) ( BPIP) 3. Legendary cellard ( Trust: neutral) ( 209 Merit earned ( history)) ( BPIP) Hero Member 1. Hero Member acholagi Banned! ( Trust: neutral) ( 0 Merit earned ( history)) ( BPIP) 2. Hero Member prodigy8 ( Trust: -16: -4 / +0) ( BPIP) 3. Hero Member arwani1985 ( Trust: neutral) ( 6 Merit earned ( history)) ( BPIP) 4. Hero Member zenitzz ( Trust: -2: -1 / +0) ( BPIP) 5. Hero Member Bitcotalk ( Trust: neutral) ( 17 Merit earned ( history)) ( BPIP) Senior Member 1. Sr. Member serraz ( Trust: neutral) ( BPIP) 2. Sr. Member JohnyBigs ( Trust: neutral) ( BPIP) 3. Sr. Member Papcio77 ( Trust: neutral) ( 1 Merit earned ( history)) ( BPIP) 4. Sr. Member zuyfg888 ( Trust: -8: -3 / +0) ( BPIP) 5. Sr. Member Lister Banned! ( Trust: neutral) ( BPIP) Full Member 1. Full Member BootstrapCoinDev ( Trust: -4: -2 / +0) ( BPIP) 2. Full Member Trackcoins ( Trust: neutral) ( BPIP) 3. Full Member pushkarmore ( Trust: -4: -2 / +0) ( BPIP) 4. Full Member ventefruss Banned! ( Trust: neutral) ( 1 Merit earned ( history)) ( BPIP) 5. Full Member vasil777 Banned! ( Trust: -2: -1 / +0) ( 0 Merit earned ( history)) ( BPIP) 6. Full Member De_nis Banned! ( Trust: neutral) ( 9 Merit earned ( history)) ( BPIP) 7. Full Member ahmadinejad93 ( Trust: neutral) ( 0 Merit earned ( history)) ( BPIP) 8. Full Member mukabokep Banned! ( Trust: neutral) ( 8 Merit earned ( history)) ( BPIP)
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Petyab21
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May 14, 2019, 07:08:00 AM |
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You can't plagiarise yourself. Copying the same post into another or multiple threads would at worst get you a temp ban if it was deemed spam. The post that was reported was this: ZANTEPAY provides cryptocurrency multiwallet / debit card integration. You can spend your bitcoin, litecoin, ethereum and zantecoin anytime, anywhere. Sign up and pre-order your crypto card FREE of charge. Referral, affiliate bonus and cashback paid out in zantecoin and ethereum. Have a look at our awesome project, white paper, team and advisory board. Join ZANTEPAY, we bring cryptocurrency to the mainstream!
User/I made a mistake post one years ago. If this is the only mistake he/she obviously got familiar with rules and changed the behavior. Why ban if user is no longer making a mistakes or act against the rules in period like 1 year or longer. In this case delete the post and send user a warning: you made mistake 1 year ago we are glad you changed the behavior.
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