[UNBAN APPEAL] tvplus006

[madnessteat]

I created this topic to support tvplus006 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1311641).


I've been waiting a few days for him to create a topic to appeal the ban, but that didn't happen. I had nothing to do with tvplus006. I just want to help him. Maybe he is very upset about what happened. After all, he is a very active user not only of the Russian locale, to make sure you can see his profile on BPIP https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=tvplus006.

Recently he has been detecting scammers on the forum:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5097272.msg49231539#msg49231539
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5097852.msg49251330#msg49251330
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5100478.msg49355677#msg49355677
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5101104.msg49378127#msg49378127
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5101252.msg49384763#msg49384763
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5104599.msg49520481#msg49520481
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5104718.msg49524335#msg49524335
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5105411.msg49555066#msg49555066
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5105534.msg49562228#msg49562228
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5107068.msg49619599#msg49619599
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5107913.msg49658457#msg49658457
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5108208.msg49675058#msg49675058
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5108781.msg49698513#msg49698513
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5109620.msg49727082#msg49727082
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5110411.msg49758526#msg49758526
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5110490.msg49761868#msg49761868
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5111575.msg49809870#msg49809870
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5112026.msg49825983#msg49825983
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5112466.msg49842814#msg49842814
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5113167.msg49869154#msg49869154
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5114692.msg49935563#msg49935563
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5116194.msg49993816#msg49993816
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5116944.msg50022854#msg50022854
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5118183.msg50065842#msg50065842
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5121558.msg50199479#msg50199479
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5122859.msg50244800#msg50244800
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5123077.msg50253289#msg50253289
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5123606.msg50270433#msg50270433
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5124428.msg50307023#msg50307023
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5126879.msg50407172#msg50407172
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5129230.msg50505607#msg50505607
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5130005.msg50533592#msg50533592
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5133785.msg50676907#msg50676907
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5134195.msg50695016#msg50695016
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5135368.msg50743408#msg50743408
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5137039.msg50807782#msg50807782
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5138153.msg50850934#msg50850934
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5138590.msg50866670#msg50866670
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5139137.msg50886697#msg50886697

I don't know how much plagiarism this user has done, but I think he's entitled to a second chance...

Guys, I ask your support who knows him and appreciates his work on exposing scammers on the forum.

Dear theymos, please pay attention to this user.

I apologize to native English speakers if I made any mistakes. I am learning English on my own.

[johhnyUA]

I'm highly agree with statement that this user is useful for our forum and asks for unban too. Eternal ban is not the proper way out for such kind of users.

[Bitcoin_Arena]

Even tvplus006 got banned? 
I had no idea. He's a very good asset in the scam accusations board and i believe he deserves a second chance just like lovesmayfamilis
They have been bursting scams for a long time now and without them, so many scammers could have gotten away.

[The Cryptovator]

This thread surprised me that tvplus006 has been banned. Just noticed now about that issue. I am wondering why that people's are not reviewing their post history once again. Forum rules is applicable for everyone either DT or good contributors. However, I its really hurting me that such as good contributors and good assists for forum are getting ban. Its true he/she has been expose lot of scams lately and helping forum as well. Since he/she have made mistake, a temp ban & signature ban would be appropriate by considering his/her past contributions. Hope admin will give him/her a second chance.

[diks]

see his received merit
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1311641

it is more than all words

[qwertyup23]

I consider TVPLUS as a valuable asset especially when it comes to busting fake ICOs in the forum. His presence (along with ICOEthics) makes every ANN in the altcoin section re-think their options before attempting to scam. Without him, there will be a decrease on the members who is dedicated enough to find scammers around the forum.

I really do hope that the ban gets lifted with necessary adjustments and penalties.

[FontSeli]

I subscribe to the above words. Tvplus006 is really useful for Bitcoin forum. I had experience of interaction with him, he is a responsive person and helped me with good advice.

[btcsmlcmnr]

This thread surprised me that tvplus006 has been banned. Just noticed now about that issue. I am wondering why that people's are not reviewing their post history once again. Forum rules is applicable for everyone either DT or good contributors. However, I its really hurting me that such as good contributors and good assists for forum are getting ban. Its true he/she has been expose lot of scams lately and helping forum as well. Since he/she have made mistake, a temp ban & signature ban would be appropriate by considering his/her past contributions. Hope admin will give him/her a second chance.

It raise the ideas that why old users here don't spend their time to check their past posts. I meant I am sure that there are dominant part of forum users did not read forum rules in their trust days there, and of course they did something wrong that they did not even know that they violated forum rules and might get troubles by doing this. So, why not check past posts and delete what you think are shitposts, or not sure why and how you made that post; I believe no one can remember their past posts are palgiarisms or not (that partially why we see ban appeals ask for evidence), so it's better to delete if you think it is poor quality posts.
Only one question, which kind of treatments if one user delete their past posts that are palgiarism, before get reported (it means users realized their mistakes themselves, and correct their mistakes)?
1] Will it actually be considered as plagiarism with same treatments, perma-bans?
2] Will they be fine if they delete their past plagiarism before getting reported?
I think the answer is the second one.

[madnessteat]

I would like to hear the opinions of users who have the authority to change the ban on a temporary signature ban. Does tvplus006 have such a chance? He is a worthy member of this forum, in my opinion.

[Bitcoin_Arena]

Though I am just a basic member, my opinion on tvplus006's case is very similar to lovesmayfamilis and both their contributions towards scam bursting was phenomenal. But the reason tvplus006 could have not been considered up to now could be due to the fact that he hasn't opened up an appeal thread himself.
May be he should come out and try to appeal. I think he deserves a second chance.

[philipma1957]

I was pm'd to help this member and to help



markiz73

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5142628.0


I would love to help but I don't speak russian can't look at his posts  and do not know if he is bad or not bad.

so  for tvplus006 and for markiz73 my help would be as follows.

I still like the 1,2,3 strikes you are out plan  and consider it to be superior over the insta-perma bans being issued.



I am going to quote and post this on the other thread.

As I do advocate for:

 strike 1) 30 day full ban
 strike 2) 90 day full ban
 strike 3) by by you are out of here

[madnessteat]

After searching for possible cases of plagiarism manually, only this case was found: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2969382.msg31594109#msg31594109

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https://progaonline.com/antiplagiat/result/66464e4fa92b5ff579665e790d45bdd9

Original source: https://vk.com/wall-115757373_8253

But here it seems to be clear at once that he refers to some news sources, most likely, he just did not execute his message correctly.
Naturally, the plagiarism search bot works much better than the manual search. tvplus006 does not look like a person who will give out someone else's words for his own.

Please help me to understand why tvplus006 was banned.

[The Cryptovator]

Please help me to understand why tvplus006 was banned.

Also I am curious to know why tvplus006 has been got ban. Please any moderators can confirm that case?

However, I am missing a good contributor for expose scams. If moderators did correct job then I am suspecting tvplus006 got ban for copy paste forum post. I believe admin/moderators could reconsider that case if there is no "blatant plagiarism". I think he deserve second chance by temp and signature ban. I am not expecting perma ban for his past mistake.

[morvillz7z]

To my understanding, you can get banned for either plagiarism or ban evasion. I went through his posts (the ones written in English) and couldn't find anything that seems copy-pasted. But I did find this little topic started by hilariousetc. Again, I'm not an alts expert, but there are a few newbie accounts (connected to a banned account) that used his twitter and facebook handles. I'm not sure if it's true or someone's just trying to set up/destroy tvplus006 account.^[1]

As Coolcryptovator said, I would like mods to at least state the reason for his ban (plagiarism or ban evasion). I don't want to go over 90 pages again looking for plagiarized posts.

Edit;

I'm going through his posts again, he seems to have quoted bounty manager's post without referencing it. He was trying to help someone, at least that's how I see it. (can't say if this is the reported post or not).

Spreadsheet is under updation and will be public once the stake calculation will be completed.
Signature stakes have already been updated so participants may remove their signature.
Please be patient and try not to ask for access in the meantime.

Spreadsheet is under updation and will be public once the stake calculation will be completed.
Signature stakes have already been updated so participants may remove their signature.
Please be patient and try not to ask for access in the meantime.

Edit2;

[1] - According to this post - “probably due to spam or plagiarism”.

[The Cryptovator]

I'm going through his posts again, he seems to have quoted bounty manager's post without referencing it. He was trying to help someone, at least that's how I see it. (can't say if this is the reported post or not).

~Snipe~

If this is the only reason of ban then I think he isn't deserve ban. Its clear that he was attempt to help someone and forgot to quote post. According to admin he should unbanned without condition. Not sure for which post he got ban. I will be happy to hear from moderators.

I know of one case where someone was banned for plagiarism in the recent massacre, but a very careful reading of the context showed that the person actually did just forget to quote, and by "quoting" the post they were expressing an actual point even if it constituted their entire post. This person was unbanned without any sigban, since this isn't plagiarism.

[Coin-1]

Since tvplus006 has recently created his own alternative account tvplus006-2 and personally asked about the reasons for the ban, I support this appeal.

tvplus006 is a helpful user who fights scam ICOs, detects plagiarized whitepapers and reveals fake teams. He earned a lot of merits and in my opinion, tvplus006 is a net positive member on the forum.

[xtraelv]

To my understanding, you can get banned for either plagiarism or ban evasion. I went through his posts (the ones written in English) and couldn't find anything that seems copy-pasted. But I did find this little topic started by hilariousetc. Again, I'm not an alts expert, but there are a few newbie accounts (connected to a banned account) that used his twitter and facebook handles. I'm not sure if it's true or someone's just trying to set up/destroy tvplus006 account.^[1]

As Coolcryptovator said, I would like mods to at least state the reason for his ban (plagiarism or ban evasion). I don't want to go over 90 pages again looking for plagiarized posts.

Edit;

I'm going through his posts again, he seems to have quoted bounty manager's post without referencing it. He was trying to help someone, at least that's how I see it. (can't say if this is the reported post or not).

Spreadsheet is under updation and will be public once the stake calculation will be completed.
Signature stakes have already been updated so participants may remove their signature.
Please be patient and try not to ask for access in the meantime.

Spreadsheet is under updation and will be public once the stake calculation will be completed.
Signature stakes have already been updated so participants may remove their signature.
Please be patient and try not to ask for access in the meantime.

Edit2;

[1] - According to this post - “probably due to spam or plagiarism”.

If that is the reason for the plagiarism ban I'd be concerned because the post by deadly was edited after tvplus006 made his post. Perhaps a moderator can check the edit history.

[morvillz7z]

Here's unedited post from deadley days before tvplus006 reply.

Spreadsheet is under updation and will be public once the stake calculation will be completed.
Signature stakes have already been updated so participants may remove their signature.
Please be patient and try not to ask for access in the meantime.

I don't know what it's for as there's no handled reports in the queue but I'm guessing it was probably for plagiarism.