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April 13, 2014, 03:00:38 AM
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This isn't going to stop till Baritus does one of two things.

1) Post the address of the "stolen" wallets himself, that's all it takes and nothing more.

2) Publicly admits he sold the coins




I have to agree with BCX on this one (which is rare Cheesy).

I am a long time supporter of DGC and hold a fair chunk.

In the interest of those who have invested in Digitalcoin why not just resolve this once and for all. I don't even care if Baritus sold the coins to be honest, if they were his he can do what he wants with them as far as I am concerned. The longer this goes on the more the reputation of Digitalcoin gets damaged.

If the coins were stolen, post the address. If not admit you sold the coins (everyone needs cash now and then - nothing wrong with that). End of story, and we can all move on.

Secondly, I hate to say it but, the level of personal attacks on BCX does not reflect well on Digitalcoin supporters. Ad hominem attacks on BCX really show there is no sound argument for not disclosing the addresses which is all BCX is asking.

It would take Baritus all of a few minutes to post those addresses.

The question is this: Does the arguably severe level of damage this is doing to Digitalcoin not warrant Baritus spending 5 minutes to come and address this issue once and for all?  I can find no reason why Baritus or someone else in the know will not do this, even if it is public information, not everyone is a block chain detective!

Lastly, I actually believe Baritus is telling the truth, which makes it even harder for me to understand why he won't personally post the adresses.

i got half way through what you said and had to reply asap !
YES thank you !
If simply posting the attackers address who you claim stole your coins will shut people up then why not do it ? what is there to hide ?
Hell if he was honest about the theft he knows BCX could help him track the guy down maybe or at least vindicate Baritus and be able to back up and verify his claim.
This is like the Carbon coin crap i went through recently guys bend over backwards to hide what that their left hand is doing while screaming look at my right hand.

This ain't Facebook and i don't care who wants to be my BFF lol
A discussion about financial activity is fair..

And to the other guy bad mouthing me about web design etc..
I had coded from scratch web site systems using straight HTML and PHP etc way back like 10 years ago roughly
I made a system for an Auction house that wanted inexperienced users to be able to upload a lot of pictures to their site etc all the time
so i wrote them a system tailored to what they asked me for.. it stayed in operation for ages until they sold the business.
Another example is 10 years ago i wrote a PHP shopping carts system from scratch and integrated Paypal into it and i used that
to set up my own web site and sell a collection of thousands of vintage Playboy magazines i got at an auction cheap.
First one that sold was the Madonna cover one from the 80's lol
I actually have a lot of web design experience so i will repeat back to you word for word "You might want to check some facts before talking complete horseshit"

And hashing algo's ? like what ? how i reverse engineered the hashing algo's used on my Windows Firewall and made a keygen by writing hashing algo's for it ?
Want to see some keygen source code ? I got plenty of experience in my PC gaming cracking group days 10 years ago Wink and yeah my work was pre'd and VERY popular.
every played a cracked version of Half life 2 or Counter Strike or Steam ? most likely half of you out there have had my code on your machines lol
I have been paid for contracting from my CAN Government before too and a major international corp has had me on called for a decade as their emergency does everything computer guy..
Want to hear more bragging ? How about some of the biggest hacking new stories that have happened in the last 10 years have been by old buddies of mine ?
How about i made my own file sharing program that used various "algo's" lol
How about all the free software and cracks i have coded and put online almost always open source want me to list them ?
For example i coded the worlds only crack (jailbreak) for a line of LG cell phones that came out some years ago that allowed users to add unlimited games and apps
even when the so called experts said it was impossible because of the drm protection employed.. they were wrong and i coded an extensive GUI app to hack the phone.
Want More bragging ? i can go and on and on Wink

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April 13, 2014, 07:21:17 AM
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BCX is not here to help anyone but himself. Your knight in shining armor.
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April 13, 2014, 08:22:55 AM
Last edit: April 13, 2014, 09:14:24 AM by justice4all
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There are two separate things that happened here, so better don't mix them up.

1 - Dev was robbed and this incident is unrelated to CrptoAve and happened much earlier.

2 - CryptoAve was attacked and shutdown before users' funds were compromised. All users received back their deposits. CryptoAve will be reopened soon.




1) Dev wasn't robbed he sold them for about $30,000 but couldn't very well admit to it because he was soliciting investors at the same time, hence the "mysterious employee stole them" line of bs. You're setting up the stage to admit that here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=514689.msg6187281#msg6187281

2) That story changes every time you post it. First it was just a few that compromised, then none. If you will look at your post above it makes no sense. If the exchange was shutdown prior to any funds being compromised, then why did they have to "receive their funds back".

Oh I am so looking forward to CryptoAve reopening as I have a special reopening celebration planned. I called in a few favors from some top notch "security testers" and it better be rock solid, maybe even Realsolid LOL....



This isn't going to stop till Baritus does one of two things.

1) Post the address of the "stolen" wallets himself, that's all it takes and nothing more.

2) Publicly admits he sold the coins


There's a reason he won't post them himself because he knows I can track them right to him and this way he can always deny any wallet identified as the "stolen" ones, are not them.


Maybe I should start turning up the heat on everything Baritus related.



~BCX~






Once and for all do everyone a favour and shut your piehole. No one here cares about your script kiddy botnets and fantasy land stories that never amount to anything. Baritus nor the DGC community deserves the BS and muckraking that you are continually trying to spread about them. Did you lose any coins? Did anyone lose any coins? Has anyone been ripped off? Is DGC expensive for new or old to invest in at the moment? NO, so STFU. Meanwhile DGC continues to gather momentum with new development and services which will speak louder than any words ever will.

  Maybe the Australian federal police will be ready for you once CryptoAve starts back up. No doubt they have a strong presence in the Melbourne area. Actually I may just give my father a call and ask him to contact his good friend who was a recent chief of Victorian police to assist. He would certainly be able to make a few calls to expedite the process. There is quite a file list on you that can easily be passed to them.

A starting point would be to report BCX to Cert Australia which I will be doing before I call in the favour from my fathers friend. I would encourage anyone else who's site he as attacked or threatened to file a report.

https://www.cert.gov.au/report

"We work in the Cyber Security Operations Centre, sharing information with other key cyber security agencies and our international counterparts. This means we are very well connected and informed, which is a great asset in helping businesses protect themselves from cyber attacks.

CERT Australia (the CERT) is the national computer emergency response team.  The CERT is part of the Federal Attorney-General’s Department, with offices in Canberra and Brisbane. We also work in the Cyber Security Operations Centre, sharing information and working closely with the Australian Security Intelligence Organisation (ASIO), the Australian Federal Police (AFP) and the Australian Signals Directorate (ASD). In addition, we work closely and share information with our international counterparts. "
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April 13, 2014, 10:03:15 AM
Last edit: April 13, 2014, 10:36:11 AM by justice4all
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@justice4all

Hopefully you and Disclaimer201 (Baritus) realize that every time you side step the very relevant questions, you simply condemn him more?


Baritus sold half of the coins that was invested and claimed it was stolen.

The reason Baritus will not post the addresses himself is because it would tie him to a trail that will not only show he cashed in the coins but has been milking the DGC supply since inception. He knows I can prove this. If he never publicly post the addresses, he can always claim that any addresses associated with the "theft" are not the correct ones.

Side step all you want, it doesn't change the obvious, Baritus is busted plain and simple.


~BCX~




Whether he sold the coins or they were actually stolen by an employee has been done to death. If he hasn't said anymore on it by now he probably isn't going to or HAS actually told the truth. He has not run away and is still actively moving forward as planned with DGC as usual so why do you even care other than to  bignote yourself as some kind of Sherlock Holmes or to try and drive the price further down. The stranger thing in all this is you admitted in the past you mine dgc (Why would you do that and spread FUD unless you are trying to accumulate more dgc at super low prices??).

It makes no difference to the current price of DGC if he sold the coins himself or not. He was entitled to do so even if it would have been a dumb trading move. The DGC price went down along with all other alts in line with the Bitcoin price drop so its no big 'mystery'

My problem I have is with you threatening CryptoAve and threatening/attacking other websites which is just plain wrong and is why I am proceeding to file a report to CERT and following up with other relevant authorities in the interests of protecting hardworking coin communities from idiots like yourself who have nothing better to do than disrupt the livelihood of other people.
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April 13, 2014, 11:11:06 AM
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Baritus has claimed that CryptoAve was attacked with the Heartbleed vulnerability roughly one month prior to the vulnerability being uncovered and made public. If an individual had knowledge of this flaw before the the entire world, why would that individual choose to attack CryptoAve of all places? Why not go after a much larger website? Why not sell the knowledge of this vulnerability to the highest bidder?

This does not make any rational sense.

Sources:
http://digitalcoin.co/forums/index.php/topic,951.0.html
http://heartbleed.com/
http://digitalcoin.co/forums/index.php/topic,1010.0.html

The heartbleed bug existed in the wild for months before it was made public.


It has been in the code for roughly two years. The point to all of this is why CryptoAve? If one has knowledge of this flaw, why would one attack a brand new exchange with few users and no potential to profit for doing so?

If you look back to the first weeks of March there were a lot of different sites being hacked every other day.

Gox had gone and I suspect they were coming for the leftovers.

I've posted the basic facts. I see that CloudFlare claims to have been notified prior to 03 April, but the facts I provided are not incorrect according to the sources. It is entirely possible, and probable, that individuals knew of Heartbleed before these recent weeks. I know that you are a supporter of Digitalcoin and will defend it in all instances, but you cannot deny that it seems odd CryptoAve would have been attacked with this flaw. The volume on the exchange was minimal, and the deposit amount was no doubt minimal as well.

To me, the order of events seems suspicious and convenient. If someone can prove to me otherwise, I will concede. I hope for your sake and the sake of others that Baritus is more than confident with the security of CryptoAve when it launches again. BCX will be relentless.

BCX may well be relentless. Anyone attacking an exchange will be reported to the relevant authorities.

Having made lots of public threats in this forum really won't help anyone apart from the federal police should anyone manage to hack this site once it's relaunched.
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April 13, 2014, 11:30:37 AM
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If he wanted to sell 500k DGC then he could have done so at any point, there would be no reason to lie about it.

People buy and sell coins all the time and they're in no way accountable to you or anyone else for that matter.
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April 13, 2014, 11:38:48 AM
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Whether he sold the coins or they were actually stolen by an employee has been done to death. If he hasn't said anymore on it by now he probably isn't going to or HAS actually told the truth. He has not run away and is still actively moving forward as planned with DGC as usual so why do you even care other than to  bignote yourself as some kind of Sherlock Holmes or to try and drive the price further down. The stranger thing in all this is you admitted in the past you mine dgc (Why would you do that and spread FUD unless you are trying to accumulate more dgc at super low prices??).

It makes no difference to the current price of DGC if he sold the coins himself or not. He was entitled to do so even if it would have been a dumb trading move. The DGC price went down along with all other alts in line with the Bitcoin price drop so its no big 'mystery'

My problem I have is with you threatening CryptoAve and threatening/attacking other websites which is just plain wrong and is why I am proceeding to file a report to CERT and following up with other relevant authorities in the interests of protecting hardworking coin communities from idiots like yourself who have nothing better to do than disrupt the livelihood of other people.


Translation:

Please be distracted from the obvious, pay no attention to any inkling of common sense.

Yes it matters greatly if he simply sold the coins as it speaks directly to his credibility in more ways than one. One he claims they were stolen, so if he sold them....hopefully I don't have to spell that out for you. Another is the outright lack of ethics in selling off personal coins while at the same soliciting donations. Hence the whole "stolen" farce.

As stated by  a few of the people that invested in CryptoAve, they too are wondering why Baritus will not provide even the simplest of details related to the $30,000 USD theft.

It didn't happen,that is why and I am sure the people that invested are a little pissed about making it possible for Baritus to sell of $30K of Digitalcoin and pocket the proceeds.

I can hardly await your next diatribe trying to veer off the subject.


~BCX~

Unlike you, Baritus has credibility for his work in the past and the present. And you speaking of ethics makes this even more ridiculous. So, spare us with your endless moralising. Even the most reputable exchanges have been hacked and coins were stolen worth millions of Dollars recently -Gox, Vircurex and so on- and you are worrying for our funds in CryptoAve. That's really sweet. How generous of you. Good luck with your quest, Ahab.
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April 13, 2014, 12:05:52 PM
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If he wanted to sell 500k DGC then he could have done so at any point, there would be no reason to lie about it.

People buy and sell coins all the time and they're in no way accountable to you or anyone else for that matter.

Wrong on all accounts.

Baritus could not sell his coins and maintain any kind of integrity while collecting donations and investments. He absolutely must answer to investors when selling coins for personal gain while claiming he needed their money.

His best bet is to come clean and deal with it as it is only going to get worse.

Baritus is nailed to the wall on this one and no amount of side stepping by any number of socks is going to fix that.


~BCX~

You are just butt-hurt that another one of your hack attacks failed (again). Poor ego of a sad hacker. This is why you keep beating a dead horse.
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April 13, 2014, 12:20:24 PM
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I doubt anyone besides a few crypto enthusiasts gaf about this thread, you, the matter, or even DGC at this point. Will talk again when BTC is back over 1000, so not before 2015.
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April 13, 2014, 12:41:10 PM
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You are just butt-hurt that another one of your hack attacks failed (again). Poor ego of a sad hacker. This is why you keep beating a dead horse.


Now you're just ridiculously grabbing.

Let's just put all this on pause for the moment and wait for what's coming.

The last time someone made the statement above it resulted in the Auroracoin Developer and Developer openly admitting they were beat.

This will end no differently.


~BCX~


You really over rate yourself.

What does this have to do with Auroracoin ? Are you on some kind of misguided crusade against things that irritate you ?

What happened with Auracoin ? I haven't heard anything, of course I don't give a crap about it anyway but outside of these forums I doubt many others will be aware of anything, I know I'm not.
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April 13, 2014, 01:10:47 PM
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I doubt anyone besides a few crypto enthusiasts gaf about this thread, you, the matter, or even DGC at this point. Will talk again when BTC is back over 1000, so not before 2015.


The sound of the "Death Rattle of Defeat"


~BCX~

You do realise that your latest course of actions threatening CAve also threatens the future of this site as well right? As a consequence of your actions the relevant authorities will seek to shut this forum down once it is proven to harbour cyber criminals and turn a blind eye to criminal activity such as that which you are engaging in.

Just to let everyone know if this site is shutdown you will have BCX to thank. Then again he may have bigger problems himself to worry about. The wheels have been set in motion...
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April 13, 2014, 01:15:50 PM
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Would be easier to believe dev when he said probably bug in php than blaming heartbleed now.  My head spins!

Dev said only high value cave accounts attacked.  So attacker hammered server w/ heartbeat requests for long time and got lucky finding some passwords in memory.

And must be just at right time when high val accounts were logging in else 99.99999% chance memory overwritten (plus password not always exposed w/ heartbleed...high val accounts must have logged in many many times to get lucky!).

Then somehow tied those passwords to only biggest accounts.  Oh yeah almost forgot...need to know username and pin too!

Oh wait dev said in irc noticed gmail account hack of biggest accounts too...remember?  So bad guy hacked gmail too, or planted virus assuming *all* high val accounts use windows.

Username ok, could be plain texted in email.  But pin was plain texted in signup email?  Cant be...then no security for pin!  Where did bad guy get all these pins for high val accounts?  Only if pin was plaintexted back and seen in memory (w/ password at same time...not guaranteed!).

Else only way to see is w/ db hack and unsalted fields...which is bad security not heartbleed.

All so this bad guy could get maybe a couple $k of precious dgc from low profile exchange...

Really fishy smell.  But many many gullible guppies in dgc pool so perfect convenient excuse...win-win!
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April 13, 2014, 02:03:00 PM
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Oh I am so looking forward to CryptoAve reopening as I have a special reopening celebration planned. I called in a few favors from some top notch "security testers" and it better be rock solid, maybe even Realsolid LOL....



This isn't going to stop till Baritus does one of two things.

1) Post the address of the "stolen" wallets himself, that's all it takes and nothing more.

2) Publicly admits he sold the coins


There's a reason he won't post them himself because he knows I can track them right to him and this way he can always deny any wallet identified as the "stolen" ones, are not them.


Maybe I should start turning up the heat on everything Baritus related.



~BCX~

I plan to deposit a few hundred thousand of the various coins I have into CryptoAve once it reopens so I can trade them and buy shares.

Are you saying you're going to steal these coins from me because someone doesn't comply with your spurious demands ?

Please confirm.
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April 13, 2014, 04:11:48 PM
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lol, You can't buy advertising like this.

If nothing else, thank you BCX. Your ego has probably gotten us more publicity than anything else we could do.
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April 13, 2014, 04:32:23 PM
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lol, You can't buy advertising like this.

If nothing else, thank you BCX. Your ego has probably gotten us more publicity than anything else we could do.

He stirred up everyone the exact same way on the Btc-e trollbox in summer 2012. Hardly anyone knew about Litecoin back then and until then. DigitalCoin is the better Litecoin anyway. Much faster, much less manipulated by whales (thank goodness it's not on Btc-e) and unlike Ltc, DGC sees continued service development.
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April 13, 2014, 04:33:22 PM
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lol, You can't buy advertising like this.

If nothing else, thank you BCX. Your ego has probably gotten us more publicity than anything else we could do.

He stirred up everyone the exact same way on the Btc-e trollbox in summer 2012. Hardly anyone knew about Litecoin back then and until then.

I guess we should all be thanking him then, thank you BCX!
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April 13, 2014, 05:15:16 PM
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If he wanted to sell 500k DGC then he could have done so at any point, there would be no reason to lie about it.

People buy and sell coins all the time and they're in no way accountable to you or anyone else for that matter.

Wrong on all accounts.

Baritus could not sell his coins and maintain any kind of integrity while collecting donations and investments. He absolutely must answer to investors when selling coins for personal gain while claiming he needed their money.

His best bet is to come clean and deal with it as it is only going to get worse.

Baritus is nailed to the wall on this one and no amount of side stepping by any number of socks is going to fix that.


~BCX~

You are just butt-hurt that another one of your hack attacks failed (again). Poor ego of a sad hacker. This is why you keep beating a dead horse.

post the address.. or your busted scamming period.
and even if he was the devil himself and has committed more crimes than anyone on the planet it still doesn't not clear your name Baritus lol

why do you idiots here insist on creating a diversion playing games and lying so much ? do you really seriously and honestly think it's effective ?
you think anyone out there really believes the bs ?
people like you are like guys screaming the world is flat or the sun revolves around the earth or the holocaust did not happen..
we all just laugh at you instantly. and then REALLY laugh when you fumble around trying to play games about it.. it's sad and often painful to watch.

getting one of you scammers to man up is like getting the NSA to admit anything.. not happening lol

Baritus = Amy from Kitchen Nightmares "Amy's baking Company" episode
and BCX = Gordon trying to deal with a fucking wacko LOL



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If anyone make an AMY's Baking Company clone coin PLEASE pm me and let me know i'm in !!!! ..I will mine that shit hard lololol
as long as it has no IPO or Premine at the bare min of scammyness lol

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April 13, 2014, 05:19:00 PM
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Thanks for the free bump Spoetnik, also that little short story you wrote was very funny. You should show that to jimmy falon, I am certain he would give you a writing job! I know I had a good laugh.
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April 13, 2014, 05:20:29 PM
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PS:
If anyone make an AMY's Baking Company clone coin PLEASE pm me and let me know i'm in !!!! ..I will mine that shit hard lololol
as long as it has no IPO or Premine at the bare min of scammyness lol

Just like DGC huh ?
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Day after day, funny story run across altcoins  Grin
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