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June 03, 2019, 02:10:02 PM
Last edit: June 03, 2019, 05:02:59 PM by ICOEthics
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What happened: FAKE TEAM = SCAM - Stealing people's identity and also using computer generated images

Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1271586

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1049422
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Reference Link: ANN - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5146429.0
https://archive.is/LTiqQ

Bounty - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5147321.0
https://archive.is/9J1Ta

Bounty - Italian - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5150257.0


Scammer Website: https://origin.foundation/#team
https://web.archive.org/web/20190603133103/https://origin.foundation/







FAKE NAME: Danylo Lenko = FAKE
REAL NAME: Max Pogorelov
https://www.linkedin.com/in/maxpogorelov/detail/photo/
https://libraries.io/github/mckenn/repositories
https://stackshare.io/mckenn/following
https://ico.newsbtc.com/team_member/max-pogorelov/
https://djinni.co/r/7246-ruby-on-rails-developer/

FAKE NAME: Ivan Koval
REAL NAME: Andrew Onyshchuk
https://www.toptal.com/resume/andrew-onyshchuk
https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewonyshchuk/

FAKE NAME: Andrew R
REAL NAME: Ilya Barkov
https://fancy.com/IlyaBarkov
https://github.com/IlyaBarkov
http://githubstars.com/meet/Ilya-Barkov/1180089

FAKE NAME: Sunny Zhang
REAL NAME: Peterson Ang (?)
https://www.freelancer.co.id/u/petersonang

FAKE NAME: Royal A
REAL NAME: CHRISTOPHER FRYE
https://whoisabout.net/Christopher-Frye/106865136670940289399



FAKE NAME: Yin Yue
REAL NAME: Tina Xu (?)
https://www.freelancer.com/u/tinaxu

FAKE NAME: Aito Watanabe
REAL NAME: Visant v (?)
https://www.freelancer.com.ru/u/vinsantv

FAKE NAME: Lilian Chen = STOCK IMAGE
https://bebelingval.ru/system/tinymce_images/files/000/000/729/original/jap2.jpg?1551629348
https://www.idntimes.com/hype/fun-fact/rizal/9-hal-ini-pasti-akan-dirasakan-anak-anak-yang-berkuliah-di-jepang-1
http://news.gogo.mn/r/229196

FAKE NAME: Sylvia Lee
REAL NAME: Dr. Jessica Tai, C.Psych.
http://www.mcleanpsych.com/clinician/jessica-chan-m-a/


"This Person Doesnt Exist" - This scammer is also using computer generated images.





If you know how to detect these computer generated images - Please DO NOT share in public.


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June 03, 2019, 04:02:59 PM
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Damn I did the translation of ANN thread. I trust ICOEthics, so I deleted the ANN thread. I lost almost 3 days to do the translation. I thought it was a legit project. Scammers are everywhere, thanks for finding them. They are starting an IEO on Dobitrade, so I didn't think the project was a scam.
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I am only a translator, I was not aware of the fact that the project was a scam. I immediately deleted the thread, as soon as ICOEthics published the scam accusation. I don't think I deserve to receive negative trusts for this.
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June 03, 2019, 04:14:15 PM
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I am only a translator, I was not aware of the fact that the project was a scam. I immediately deleted the thread, as soon as ICOEthics published the scam accusation. I don't think I deserve to receive negative trusts for this.

We changed your feedback to Neutral - and keep in mind there is no next time. So, do your due diligence before opening a thread for any project.

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I am only a translator, I was not aware of the fact that the project was a scam. I immediately deleted the thread, as soon as ICOEthics published the scam accusation. I don't think I deserve to receive negative trusts for this.

We changed your feedback to Neutral - and keep in mind there is no next time. So, do your due diligence before opening a thread for any project.

But honestly I don't know how to identify computer-generated images. The project is going to do an IEO on Dobitrade so I thought it was legitimate. I was accepted as a translator (you can check the bounty spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xxOdHDrx0_8B85B2RPYPcdnA-_CAYGxrLyiEnKcuCaM/edit#gid=152988400) like so many other translators. So I only did my "job". I hope that also witcher_sense changes its feedback, as I am NOT part of the project in any way. I only did the translation. (and it took me 3 days).
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June 03, 2019, 04:37:56 PM
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The person you are tagged as a scammer is a bounty manager https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1271586
I think he is not a scammer.

I also lock my translation thread.

What about these two exchange :

https://www.dobiexchange.com/news/detail/1eesc24.html

https://support.probit.com/hc/en-us/articles/360029059071-Origin-ORIGIN-Round-3-Announcement

are they being scammed or they are the scammer?

So an IEO is not a guarantee. Scammer are too smart to got listed. Even worse now the exchange can make a fake project, and in this case those two exchange is working together.



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But honestly I don't know how to identify computer-generated images...

Forget about the computer-generated images for now.  What about all other images? they were not generated, those are images of real people and the scammer is stealing people's identity. Do you know how to search for them? There are guides on this forum that teaches you how to search for such images.


The person you are tagged as a scammer is a bounty manager https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1271586
I think he is not a scammer.

I also lock my translation thread.

What about these two exchange :

https://www.dobiexchange.com/news/detail/1eesc24.html

https://support.probit.com/hc/en-us/articles/360029059071-Origin-ORIGIN-Round-3-Announcement

are they being scammed or they are the scammer?

So an IEO is not a guarantee. Scammer are too smart to got listed. Even worse now the exchange can make a fake project, and in this case those two exchange is working together.

The BM created the ANN as well. He didnt do his due diligence, and because of him more people fell into the scammer trap.

There are fake exchanges that wants to scam people, and exchanges that just wants the money (listing fees, transactions fee, etc... They dont care.
And to answer your question, I dont know if they are scams or not, we didnt check. Have you checked if they have a team? legal paperwork/permits, etc..?


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But honestly I don't know how to identify computer-generated images...

Forget about the computer-generated images for now.  What about all other images? they were not generated, those are images of real people and the scammer is stealing people's identity. Do you know how to search for them? There are guides on this forum that teaches you how to search for such images.

Ok let's forget about computer-generated images, but I'm currently the only translator tagged with a neutral trust. I believed in the project, because I thought that an exchange before accepting an IEO would carry out checks. Now I understand that even an IEO is not a guarantee that a project is legitimate. I kindly ask you to remove the neutral feedback, and if you can, send me a message with all the necessary instructions to check if a team is legitimate or not. Thanks.
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But honestly I don't know how to identify computer-generated images...

Forget about the computer-generated images for now.  What about all other images? they were not generated, those are images of real people and the scammer is stealing people's identity. Do you know how to search for them? There are guides on this forum that teaches you how to search for such images.


The person you are tagged as a scammer is a bounty manager https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1271586
I think he is not a scammer.

I also lock my translation thread.

What about these two exchange :

https://www.dobiexchange.com/news/detail/1eesc24.html

https://support.probit.com/hc/en-us/articles/360029059071-Origin-ORIGIN-Round-3-Announcement

are they being scammed or they are the scammer?

So an IEO is not a guarantee. Scammer are too smart to got listed. Even worse now the exchange can make a fake project, and in this case those two exchange is working together.

The BM created the ANN as well. He didnt do his due diligence, and because of him more people fell into the scammer trap.

There are fake exchanges that wants to scam people, and exchanges that just wants the money (listing fees, transactions fee, etc... They dont care.
And to answer your question, I dont know if they are scams or not, we didnt check. Have you checked if they have a team? legal paperwork/permits, etc..?



In this case coinmarketcap.com also listed these exchange without due diligence. Ok I saw dobiexchange and probit had their linkedin and team connected. However, i don't have skill to use the scam detector machine to verify their trully face. You're the detective. You tell me lol. Sorry got another translation waiting. I will follow your investigation. Thanks and Goodluck COPS

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But honestly I don't know how to identify computer-generated images...

Forget about the computer-generated images for now.  What about all other images? they were not generated, those are images of real people and the scammer is stealing people's identity. Do you know how to search for them? There are guides on this forum that teaches you how to search for such images.

Ok let's forget about computer-generated images, but I'm currently the only translator tagged with a neutral trust. I believed in the project, because I thought that an exchange before accepting an IEO would carry out checks. Now I understand that even an IEO is not a guarantee that a project is legitimate. I kindly ask you to remove the neutral feedback, and if you can, send me a message with all the necessary instructions to check if a team is legitimate or not. Thanks.

We didnt find other treads created for this scam project, just yours (Italian), bounty and ANN. We will tag anyone creating threads to promote this project. If you know any other, post it here and they will be tagged by us. As far as removing your neutral feedback, we will not remove it, it is a way to keep a tack in case we find you promoting a scam project again. And you should not worry about your neutral feedback - it doesnt affect your reputation - it is neutral. 

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But honestly I don't know how to identify computer-generated images...

Forget about the computer-generated images for now.  What about all other images? they were not generated, those are images of real people and the scammer is stealing people's identity. Do you know how to search for them? There are guides on this forum that teaches you how to search for such images.

Ok let's forget about computer-generated images, but I'm currently the only translator tagged with a neutral trust. I believed in the project, because I thought that an exchange before accepting an IEO would carry out checks. Now I understand that even an IEO is not a guarantee that a project is legitimate. I kindly ask you to remove the neutral feedback, and if you can, send me a message with all the necessary instructions to check if a team is legitimate or not. Thanks.

We didnt find other treads created for this scam project, just yours (Italian), bounty and ANN. We will tag anyone creating threads to promote this project. If you know any other, post it here and they will be tagged by us. As far as removing your neutral feedback, we will not remove it, it is a way to keep a tack in case we find you promoting a scam project again. And you should not worry about your neutral feedback - it doesnt affect your reputation - it is neutral. 

I am also agree with you......
and thanks for investigation........
ANN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5146429.0
BOUNTTY: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5147321.0
Scam alert done....

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But honestly I don't know how to identify computer-generated images...

Forget about the computer-generated images for now.  What about all other images? they were not generated, those are images of real people and the scammer is stealing people's identity. Do you know how to search for them? There are guides on this forum that teaches you how to search for such images.


The person you are tagged as a scammer is a bounty manager https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1271586
I think he is not a scammer.

I also lock my translation thread.

What about these two exchange :

https://www.dobiexchange.com/news/detail/1eesc24.html

https://support.probit.com/hc/en-us/articles/360029059071-Origin-ORIGIN-Round-3-Announcement

are they being scammed or they are the scammer?

So an IEO is not a guarantee. Scammer are too smart to got listed. Even worse now the exchange can make a fake project, and in this case those two exchange is working together.

The BM created the ANN as well. He didnt do his due diligence, and because of him more people fell into the scammer trap.

There are fake exchanges that wants to scam people, and exchanges that just wants the money (listing fees, transactions fee, etc... They dont care.
And to answer your question, I dont know if they are scams or not, we didnt check. Have you checked if they have a team? legal paperwork/permits, etc..?



In this case coinmarketcap.com also listed these exchange without due diligence. Ok I saw dobiexchange and probit had their linkedin and team connected. However, i don't have skill to use the scam detector machine to verify their trully face. You're the detective. You tell me lol. Sorry got another translation waiting. I will follow your investigation. Thanks and Goodluck COPS



i don't know probit exchange how to list this fake project?Huh
and i am not team of this project.....
when i see 2 exchange list this project.....i just accept this bounty..... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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But honestly I don't know how to identify computer-generated images...

Forget about the computer-generated images for now.  What about all other images? they were not generated, those are images of real people and the scammer is stealing people's identity. Do you know how to search for them? There are guides on this forum that teaches you how to search for such images.

Ok let's forget about computer-generated images, but I'm currently the only translator tagged with a neutral trust. I believed in the project, because I thought that an exchange before accepting an IEO would carry out checks. Now I understand that even an IEO is not a guarantee that a project is legitimate. I kindly ask you to remove the neutral feedback, and if you can, send me a message with all the necessary instructions to check if a team is legitimate or not. Thanks.

We didnt find other treads created for this scam project, just yours (Italian), bounty and ANN. We will tag anyone creating threads to promote this project. If you know any other, post it here and they will be tagged by us. As far as removing your neutral feedback, we will not remove it, it is a way to keep a tack in case we find you promoting a scam project again. And you should not worry about your neutral feedback - it doesnt affect your reputation - it is neutral. 

I can't understand how you were able to find my translated thread and not the others. You can check the bounty spreadsheet to find the other translated threads: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xxOdHDrx0_8B85B2RPYPcdnA-_CAYGxrLyiEnKcuCaM/edit#gid=152988400 . You're right, neutral feedback doesn't make a difference, but I've always tried to respect the forum rules, so it does. If you can send me more information on how to find the fraudulent teams, I appreciate it. I do my research before doing the translations. I can't understand how a scam project can do an IEO on an exchange like Dobitrade.
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I deleted my negative feedback, but I ask you not to get involved in dubious projects next time.  Now you know what fraudsters are capable of, be careful, my friend.
you can check my others project real and gd project... and i am also team of some gd project....
hope you can remove my negative feedback.. coz i m not team of origin boss
i am just BM....
and already i have done ann about scam....

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I am also agree with you......
and thanks for investigation........
ANN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5146429.0
BOUNTTY: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5147321.0
Scam alert done....

Good that you've made those big warning signs (a little too late if you ask me) but as an additional measure, I would recommend you lock both threads immediately. It's probably said a million times already, but please for god's sake always review/check projects before you decide to advertise or make announcement threads for them.

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June 03, 2019, 06:22:52 PM
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i don't know probit exchange how to list this fake project?Huh
and i am not team of this project.....
when i see 2 exchange list this project.....i just accept this bounty..... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

You are not doing your due diligence, and because of your thread other people will be scammed - Your threads still unlocked - after you lock we will consider changing your feedback to neutral - we dont want to give red tags to BM but we need to force them to do their due diligence.


I can't understand how a scam project can do an IEO on an exchange like Dobitrade...
...If you can send me more information on how to find the fraudulent teams, I appreciate it

Just because it is listed on some exchange doesnt mean it is real. Look at the team, it is fake!!!

Search on this scam section how to find scams. There are a few posts about it.


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Last edit: June 03, 2019, 06:35:24 PM by mondobitcoin
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Indonesian Thread : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5148743
Just to show the community that I'm not the only one to have translated the thread.

* https://web.archive.org/web/20190603183330/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5148743
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i don't know probit exchange how to list this fake project?Huh
and i am not team of this project.....
when i see 2 exchange list this project.....i just accept this bounty..... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

You are not doing your due diligence, and because of your thread other people will be scammed - Your threads still unlocked - after you lock we will consider changing your feedback to neutral - we dont want to give red tags to BM but we need to force them to do their due diligence.


I can't understand how a scam project can do an IEO on an exchange like Dobitrade...
...If you can send me more information on how to find the fraudulent teams, I appreciate it

Just because it is listed on some exchange doesnt mean it is real. Look at the team, it is fake!!!

Search on this scam section how to find scams. There are a few posts about it.



locked and really sorry for mistek and i hope will get chance for research future project

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June 03, 2019, 06:33:34 PM
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i don't know probit exchange how to list this fake project?Huh
and i am not team of this project.....
when i see 2 exchange list this project.....i just accept this bounty..... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

You are not doing your due diligence, and because of your thread other people will be scammed - Your threads still unlocked - after you lock we will consider changing your feedback to neutral - we dont want to give red tags to BM but we need to force them to do their due diligence.


I can't understand how a scam project can do an IEO on an exchange like Dobitrade...
...If you can send me more information on how to find the fraudulent teams, I appreciate it

Just because it is listed on some exchange doesnt mean it is real. Look at the team, it is fake!!!

Search on this scam section how to find scams. There are a few posts about it.


and also i am against about scam project...
I can understand that I am wrong and I feel guilty.

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