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June 03, 2019, 09:30:04 PM
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About an hour ago I received this pm from ichanger :




I never interacted with the guy before and have no idea who he is.
I checked his post history and apparently he is buying BTC with Paypal. I asked him to explain himself in two of the threads he posted in. I also tagged him waiting for an answer.

Then I reported his pm to the admins and answered him via pm as well.
 


I later noticed that my two posts addressed to him had been deleted.
https://archive.fo/Gu6uA
https://archive.fo/fwn0b

 I checked the mod log, the guy hasn't been banned, at least I don't think so.
I checked my mailbox and there is no notification of those deleted posts.
But in my mailbox, I got notifications for 3 pms sent by getpaidz

I can post a screenshot of those emails if necessary (address is noreply@bitcointalk.org) :
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You have just been sent a personal message by getpaidz on Bitcoin Forum.

IMPORTANT: Remember, this is just a notification. Please do not reply to this email.

The message they sent you was:

Quote from: kenzawak on Today at 12:06:53 AM

Hi, I want to exchange 14k $ pp. Do you have such a sum?



Yes I can do that. But in batches. Maybe in $200. I have a way to convert paypal to bitcoin/eth/xrp instantly.

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You have just been sent a personal message by getpaidz on Bitcoin Forum.

IMPORTANT: Remember, this is just a notification. Please do not reply to this email.

The message they sent you was:

Quote from: getpaidz on Today at 12:14:11 AM

Quote from: kenzawak on Today at 12:06:53 AM

Hi, I want to exchange 14k $ pp. Do you have such a sum?



Yes I can do that. But in batches. Maybe in $200. I have a way to convert paypal to bitcoin/eth/xrp instantly.



I can convert up to $20,000 per month. I have limited capital for the exchange but I can convert funds instantly to bitcoin/eth/ripple.

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You have just been sent a personal message by getpaidz on Bitcoin Forum.

IMPORTANT: Remember, this is just a notification. Please do not reply to this email.

The message they sent you was:

Quote from: kenzawak on Today at 12:33:05 AM

I thought you currently have bitcoins



Every paypal you send to me will be converted to bitcoin and will be send to you.

I have checked my inbox, those messages are not there !

I also noticed this thread, it seems to be the same MO.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5148419.0


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June 03, 2019, 09:52:08 PM
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I would take it easy on the guy until you have the full story.

There are scammers contacting people on Telegram impersonating trusted members of Bitcointalk.org.  Many of these are trying to scam people for bitcoin to payal trades.  That may be what this newbie is talking about.  Maybe someone on Telegram is impersonating you luring unsuspecting newbies into sending them PayPal, or worse, bitcoin.

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June 03, 2019, 10:05:12 PM
Last edit: June 03, 2019, 10:16:32 PM by kenzawak
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I would take it easy on the guy until you have the full story.

There are scammers contacting people on Telegram impersonating trusted members of Bitcointalk.org.  Many of these are trying to scam people for bitcoin to payal trades.  That may be what this newbie is talking about.  Maybe someone on Telegram is impersonating you luring unsuspecting newbies into sending them PayPal, or worse, bitcoin.

Maybe but I doubt it. He is the one offering his services here, not the other way around. And he's the one threatening.
The tag is here to get his attention anyway. I find it weird that there is another newbie accusing others of the exact same thing here. Maybe he's one those guys trying to tarnish others' reputation with fake accusations. If he pretends I scammed him, he can just cancel the paypal transaction ffs. And he can post his supposed proofs here lol.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5148419.0

It's late where I am and I don't like having to deal with that kind of stuff now.
A mod deleted the two posts I made asking the guy for an explanation so maybe they know something.

EDIT : ichanger doesn't look like a naive newbie who doesn't know what he's doing. He's the admin of this site :
https://ichanger.net/
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June 03, 2019, 11:05:19 PM
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So at first I would like to say that you are also involved in this manipulation and scam.
We were contacted about 6-7 hours ago from telegram @wakenz to make trade from PayPal to BTC.
To be sure that we trade with some user with reputation we asked for verification via PM on forum, because we send money first. You sent us the message: "Hi"
Please look at the attached screenshot.
The administration of this forum can prove that this message was sent us by you.

After that you sent us 2 PayPal Emails also via PM, to which we should send money.
How do you explain it?

Look at all screenshots (from PM and telegram)

PS: Timezone on telegram is Kiev, because we are located there
Screenshots Forum
http://prntscr.com/nx7eqr
http://prntscr.com/nx7f00


Screenshots telegram
http://prntscr.com/nx7yr1
http://prntscr.com/nx80a4
http://prntscr.com/nx8142
http://prntscr.com/nx81ud
http://prntscr.com/nx82sv
http://prntscr.com/nx83ma
http://prntscr.com/nx847j

Screenshots PayPal
http://prntscr.com/nx85r1
http://prntscr.com/nx85ir
http://prntscr.com/nx85wa
http://prntscr.com/nx8612



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June 03, 2019, 11:15:26 PM
Last edit: June 03, 2019, 11:37:26 PM by kenzawak
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What timezone did you put in your settings on the forum ?
 EDIT : I re-checked your screenshots. So I'm supposed to have sent my first pm at 10.44 am in your timezone ?
How many merits do you think I had at the time ? Not 763 like your screenshot says.
Checkmate fucker.

And that's one more tag for you.
https://archive.fo/Iy2ky
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June 03, 2019, 11:39:33 PM
Last edit: June 03, 2019, 11:49:47 PM by marlboroza
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This isn't so hard to fabricate. Moderator could check this, in the meantime, @iChanger can you take screenshot of your inbox and post it like this:



How many merits do you think I had at the time ? Not 763 like your screenshot says.
Checkmate fucker.
It depends on time when they took screenshot.

edited OP -> iChanger  Embarrassed

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June 03, 2019, 11:42:30 PM
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What timezone did you put in your settings on the forum ?
 EDIT : I re-checked your screenshots. So I'm supposed to has sent my first pm at 10.44 am in your timezone ?
How many merits do you think I had at the time ? Not 763 like your screenshot says.
Checkmate fucker.

And that's one more tag for you.
https://archive.fo/Iy2ky
Does it matter?

You has very stupid excuses (fake screenshots etc).

The fact is that you sent us PMs with instruction where to send PayPal but after that you sent us the last message, that you don't understand who I am.
It is easy to prove that messages were sent. I would like to ask moderators or administration to prove.
Our local time is now 02:40 AM, I can answer you in 8 hours, I go sleeping.

It seems like this "guy" has access to your account on forum. Does not he? Or maybe it is you and you are profiting from situation that you are verified user and I am newbie on forum?)
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June 03, 2019, 11:44:00 PM
Last edit: June 03, 2019, 11:54:46 PM by kenzawak
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How many merits do you think I had at the time ? Not 763 like your screenshot says.
Checkmate fucker.
It depends on time when they took screenshot.

Shit, you're right my head's not clear.
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June 03, 2019, 11:47:30 PM
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iChanger can you take screenshot of your inbox and post it like this:



Sorry, not OP, my mistake  Embarrassed

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June 04, 2019, 12:06:09 AM
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iChanger can you take screenshot of your inbox and post it like this:

https://i.imgur.com/KKgHeUo.png

Sorry, not OP, my mistake  Embarrassed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ur9b7_m5-0&feature=youtu.be

Watch a video on your PC.
Oh the phone the quality is better.
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June 04, 2019, 12:19:12 AM
Last edit: June 04, 2019, 12:30:54 AM by kenzawak
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WTF Huh

Is it possible that my account here has been compromised without me noticing ?
I changed my password here about an hour and 20 minutes ago just in case.

EDIT : I also just contacted user "getpaidz" (the one I mention in op) via pm telling him to stay away from anyone pretending to be me, that I do not trade on this forum, especially via paypal.
I don't have a Nigerian name, I'm French. My telegram name is not "kenz". I never traded on this forum and would never use paypal if I did.
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June 04, 2019, 12:30:16 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ur9b7_m5-0&feature=youtu.be

Watch a video on your PC.
Oh the phone the quality is better.

Could you use the "Report to Admin" button on the PM and link them to this thread so that they can confirm the PM is valid? Or allow a trusted member to temporarily access your account to confirm the PM.

I think you're telling the truth at this point, but it's better to have confirmation. The email notifications about PMs from kenzawak also lines up with this.

It seems like this "guy" has access to your account on forum. Does not he? Or maybe it is you and you are profiting from situation that you are verified user and I am newbie on forum?)

Even if he was hacked, the most likely expectation would be for him to reimburse you out of pocket if you can't chargeback.

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June 04, 2019, 12:30:43 AM
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@kenzawak  

You can send theymos a pm and ask him to give you your recent IP logs. See if there are any irregularities, logs from IPs you don't necessarily recognize.

There have been at least two recent cases of hacked accounts to my knowledge. bbvedf and Mrengage

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June 04, 2019, 12:31:51 AM
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@kenzawak  

You can send theymos a pm and ask him to give you your recent IP logs. See if there are any irregularities, logs from IPs you don't necessarily recognize.

There have been at least two recent cases of hacked accounts to my knowledge. bbvedf and Mrengage

Thanks, I'll do that. Good idea.

Like I said, I reset my password here about two hours ago. Do you guys think that's enough ?

EDIT AGAIN : I also removed the tag I left to ichanger.
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June 04, 2019, 12:46:23 AM
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I received a pm yesterday from him.
Hi, I want to exchange 14k $ pp. Do you have such a sum?

Amazon SES accounts available now. https://shoppy.gg/@EliteAccount
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June 04, 2019, 12:47:25 AM
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I received a pm yesterday from him.
Hi, I want to exchange 14k $ pp. Do you have such a sum?

Did you make any transaction ?
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June 04, 2019, 12:49:15 AM
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I received a pm yesterday from him.
Hi, I want to exchange 14k $ pp. Do you have such a sum?

Did you make any transaction ?

I pm him back that I can only do $200 per transaction. And he seems not interested.

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June 04, 2019, 12:52:44 AM
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I received a pm yesterday from him.
Hi, I want to exchange 14k $ pp. Do you have such a sum?

Did you make any transaction ?

I pm him back that I can only do $200 per transaction. And he seems not interested.

Good !


I want to make it clear again, I have never traded here and if I ever do, it will not be with paypal.
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June 04, 2019, 01:01:53 AM
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Thanks, I'll do that. Good idea.

Like I said, I reset my password here about two hours ago. Do you guys think that's enough ?

Could you sign a message from an older address of yours?

EDIT AGAIN : I also removed the tag I left to ichanger.

I removed my counter.

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Like I said, I reset my password here about two hours ago. Do you guys think that's enough ?
Run anti virus. Maybe you are infected or something...

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