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June 04, 2019, 02:24:55 AM
Last edit: June 04, 2019, 02:49:52 AM by DireWolfM14
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Can you sign a message with the address quoted below from December 2017?

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btc address :  15Ctuz7BCcoHnu9Tnm3hbDSuAMVuM2WeDh
http://archive.fo/iypg5#selection-2942.1-2951.56


Looks like you used it January of this year.

Btctalk name : kenzawak
Rank : Sr. Member
BTC Address : 15Ctuz7BCcoHnu9Tnm3hbDSuAMVuM2WeDh
Wear Appropriate Signature : Yes
Wear Personal Text: Yes
Wear Avatar:  Yes

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June 04, 2019, 02:33:31 AM
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Can you sign a message with the address quoted below from December 2017?

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Twitter :  https://twitter.com/MuscuPassion
RT link and liked :  https://twitter.com/MuscuPassion/status/938115035070595072
btc address :  15Ctuz7BCcoHnu9Tnm3hbDSuAMVuM2WeDh
http://archive.fo/iypg5#selection-2942.1-2951.56

I'm afraid not, it's a Binance address.
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June 04, 2019, 03:13:08 AM
Last edit: June 04, 2019, 03:24:12 AM by kenzawak
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@kenzawak  

You can send theymos a pm and ask him to give you your recent IP logs. See if there are any irregularities, logs from IPs you don't necessarily recognize.

There have been at least two recent cases of hacked accounts to my knowledge. bbvedf and Mrengage

Theymos just answered me :



I also tried to alert telegram about this but I can't find @wakenz .
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June 04, 2019, 03:23:31 AM
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Theymos just answered me :

Just out curiosity, can you tell when the breach started?  You can copy the code into a text editor and redact your IP address with a search and replace, then post the code here.


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June 04, 2019, 03:37:17 AM
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Theymos just answered me :

Just out curiosity, can you tell when the breach started?  You can copy the code into a text editor and redact your IP address with a search and replace, then post the code here.


Apparently on June 1st (I definitely wasn't in Stockholm).



Other IPs are in France (home address or 4g address)
And the ones before that (the ones in New York) do match. I was in New York at the time, I posted about it in the Wall Observer thread.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg51213854#msg51213854
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June 04, 2019, 04:31:55 AM
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Did you reuse the password for your Bitcointalk account anywhere? Do you remember when the last time you changed it was?
Also, please run a malware/virus scan (Malwarebytes, Avira are two free ones that work well from what I've seen).

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June 04, 2019, 07:04:18 AM
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Just out of curiosity... what exactly are you using to sign these messages? Huh As far as I'm aware, Bitcoin Core (aka Bitcoin-qt) does not support signing messages with bech32 (aka "bc1") addresses... and Electrum does not put "Version: Bitcoin-qt (1.0)" in signed messages.

Also, I'd feel far more comfortable with these signed messages, if you included a "datetime" and a more specific reason. Such a generic message could be easily re-used... something like this:
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This is kenzawak
Signing a message on <DATETIME>
To prove ownership of this account due to bitcointalk thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5150479.0

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June 04, 2019, 07:05:06 AM
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I'm sorry this is happening to you.

Can't get your message verified on brainwallet. Can you maybe verify?

https://brainwalletx.github.io/#verify
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June 04, 2019, 07:33:17 AM
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It is pretty nice, that you all are believing me and untagged me us scammer. But what is with my money?

It was verified via PM, we sent money like Family and Friends, so the payments can not be charged back.
You said, that you are DT1.
So you have more responsibility.
It is your fault, that your account was hacked.

So like DarkStar_ said in this situation you have to compensate us without discussion.

Thank you in advance.
In our life we often have to pay for mistakes.
You have to look on it like a lesson of more security.
If you don't pay, you will be able to let people scammed and say everytime, that you was hacked.
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June 04, 2019, 07:34:12 AM
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Just out of curiosity... what exactly are you using to sign these messages? Huh As far as I'm aware, Bitcoin Core (aka Bitcoin-qt) does not support signing messages with bech32 (aka "bc1") addresses... and Electrum does not put "Version: Bitcoin-qt (1.0)" in signed messages.

Also, I'd feel far more comfortable with these signed messages, if you included a "datetime" and a more specific reason. Such a generic message could be easily re-used... something like this:
Quote
This is kenzawak
Signing a message on <DATETIME>
To prove ownership of this account due to bitcointalk thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5150479.0

I'm using my Mycelium wallet.
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June 04, 2019, 07:36:08 AM
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Can you sign message from this address  0xbdc1e8a238572e8E282b791e993F571BF8640d83 ?

On side note, why people don't ask those thingies before they make deal? No trading history, no escrow...
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June 04, 2019, 07:44:52 AM
Last edit: July 17, 2019, 12:28:49 AM by kenzawak
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It is pretty nice, that you all are believing me and untagged me us scammer. But what is with my money?

It was verified via PM, we sent money like Family and Friends, so the payments can not be charged back.
You said, that you are DT1.
So you have more responsibility.
It is your fault, that your account was hacked.

So like DarkStar_ said in this situation you have to compensate us without discussion.

Thank you in advance.
In our life we often have to pay for mistakes.
You have to look on it like a lesson of more security.
If you don't pay, you will be able to let people scammed and say everytime, that you was hacked.


What ?

You're the one who sent two payments, not one but two !!!
Why didn't you wait for any kind of confirmation before sending the second payment ?
I never ever traded here, why didn't you check that ? There is no trace of any trade in my trust feedback !
Basically, all pms that were supposedly sent from my account say "hi" and are two Nigerian email addresses. The rest was done on Telegram. Tell me where the verification is !
There are photos of me in my post history. Do I look Nigerian ?
You had all the means to verify. You could also have checked the Telegram username, mine is @kewak, it's already been posted here. You didn't even send me any PM here before sending the money ffs !!!

Sorry but there's no fucking way I'm sending you money. If I do, everybody will think they can do the same.

You made a mistake, not me.
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June 04, 2019, 08:02:44 AM
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It is pretty nice, that you all are believing me and untagged me us scammer. But what is with my money?

It was verified via PM, we sent money like Family and Friends, so the payments can not be charged back.
You said, that you are DT1.
So you have more responsibility.
It is your fault, that your account was hacked.

So like DarkStar_ said in this situation you have to compensate us without discussion.

Thank you in advance.
In our life we often have to pay for mistakes.
You have to look on it like a lesson of more security.
If you don't pay, you will be able to let people scammed and say everytime, that you was hacked.


What ?

You're the one who sent two payments, not one but two !!!
Why didn't you wait for any kind of confirmation before sending the second payment ?
I never ever traded here, why didn't you check that ? There is no trace of any trade in my trust feedback !
Basically, all pms that were supposedly sent from my account say "hi" and are two Nigerian email addresses. The rest was done on Telegram. Tell me where the verification is !
There are photos of me in my post history. Do I look Nigerian ?
You had all the means to verify. You could also have checked the Telegram username, mine is @moutezz, it's already been posted here. You didn't even send me any PM here before sending the money ffs !!!

Sorry but there's no fucking way I'm sending you money. If I do, everybody will think they can do the same.

You made a mistake, not me.


In this situation you want to make me guilty for your mistake?) Bravo...
If you don't compensate, I am sure that you are also involved in this scam.

You can make it again and again with the newbies using your "trust" and "status", which doesn't matter how we can see it now, because you feel not responsible for scam.

In my eyes you are scammer and I think, that the forum administrators should force you to make the right decision, otherwise on this forum new users will be everytime scammed by "trusted" users like you.
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June 04, 2019, 08:36:30 AM
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iChanger,

Paypal is still a bank and you can still contact them to tell them about the fraud.

Likely the funds have been withdrawn already, but if you are lucky and the scammer was stupid enough, it has been withdrawn to his actual bank account.

In that case paypal WOULD be able to recover your funds, and/or to bann the paypal account involved unless they go through KYC.
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June 04, 2019, 08:47:03 AM
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Ichanger, you definitely don't look like a newbie to me !

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5140227.0

https://archive.fo/EQ4yE

Hello, we are new on this forum, but we have a good reputation on russian webmaster forums and also Bestchange.ru

https://searchengines.guru/showthread.php?t=973381
https://www.bestchange.ru/ichanger-exchanger.html

We would like to exchange PayPal (about 1000 USD from our Business PayPal Account registered in Hong Kong and verified) for WMZ, BTC or ePayments with 1 % BONUS for you.

For example:

We send you PayPal 1000 PayPal USD as Family and Friends, you send us 990 WMZ / ePayments USD or BTC (equal amount).

We can send you first if you have a trusted profile on this forum.

Contact:

  
With regards, iChanger.Net Admin.


Same amount, same MO...
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Last edit: June 04, 2019, 10:15:27 AM by iChanger
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Ichanger, you definitely don't look like a newbie to me !

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5140227.0

https://archive.fo/EQ4yE

Hello, we are new on this forum, but we have a good reputation on russian webmaster forums and also Bestchange.ru

https://searchengines.guru/showthread.php?t=973381
https://www.bestchange.ru/ichanger-exchanger.html

We would like to exchange PayPal (about 1000 USD from our Business PayPal Account registered in Hong Kong and verified) for WMZ, BTC or ePayments with 1 % BONUS for you.

For example:

We send you PayPal 1000 PayPal USD as Family and Friends, you send us 990 WMZ / ePayments USD or BTC (equal amount).

We can send you first if you have a trusted profile on this forum.

Contact:

  
With regards, iChanger.Net Admin.


Same amount, same MO...

Who said that I am newbie or noob?
You have to be more carefully (attentively) and read my thread twice to understand.
I am new on THIS forum, but on russian forums and exchange monitoring service "Bestchange" (some of you are sure using this service) I have excellent reputation.

Follow the links I posted in my exchange thread to read feedbacks, hint for you, in chrome you can translate feedbacks from russian to english.

You are not a really good detective like Sherlock Holmes, you try to find stupid excuses and facts (like same amount, same MO...what does MO mean?) on other side, but firstly you have to clear and fix your security problems. Or maybe there were / are no problems?)
It should work like it happened?

Sorry for my bad English, I hope that all users can understand what I mean.

I reported today PMs to administrator, now we have to wait for answer.
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June 04, 2019, 10:10:57 AM
Last edit: June 04, 2019, 10:44:59 AM by kenzawak
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Who said that I am newbie or noob?
You have to be more carefully (attentively) and read my thread twice to understand.
I am new on THIS forum, but on russian forums and exchange monitoring service "Bestchange" (some of you are sure using this service) I have excellent reputation.


Then you should have known better ! I don't understand how you can get scammed like this if you are so good at it.How many red flags do you need before realizing something's up ?

-You sent money to Nigerian Paypal addresses. Three of them !
-You did it without any confirmation of the first transaction. Why didn't you wait for a tx id before sending money again ?
-You never ever (I emphasize on this) contacted me here before making those payments. I would have received notifications via email.
-You supposedly sent $1000 to a stranger for crying out loud, someone you know nothing about. Show me one post, just one where I'm involved in any kind of trade here !!!
-You say you can't get your money back from Paypal because you chose to send money in a specific way. How is that my problem ? Again you're the pro with your own website and such a great rep. MO means "modus operandi". It means here that I find all this pretty convenient. You chose to pay this way... every time apparently. You're the one chasing customers on this board, not me. Me I'm just the guy who a few hours ago had no idea what was gonna happen... and now I'm a scammer and I should send you money ?! Fuck that !
-Fix my security problems ? You have to fix your IQ problems ! What kind of moron are you for doing all the shit above ? You can only blame yourself here.

I'm in no way responsible for all this.
Your trade was made on Telegram (not here) with someone else, once again your problem, not mine.

For all I know you're the one who hacked my account.



You are not a really good detective like Sherlock Holmes

Try to stay awake for 30 hours dealing with that kind of shit and see how that works out for you.

EDIT : I'd like you to show us some proof that you're trying your best to get your money back from Paypal. That shouldn't be too hard.

EDIT AGAIN : I reread your telegram screenshots. No way I'm paying for that level of stupidity. "I'm not home, I can't send you a screenshot". Seriously ?
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June 04, 2019, 11:34:59 AM
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Code:
{
  "address": "0xbdc1e8a238572e8e282b791e993f571bf8640d83",
  "msg": "This is kenzawak Signing a message on June 4 to prove ownership of this account due to bitcointalk thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5150479.0",
  "sig": "0x25063626fcf7b6f4a00008783ee4bcecd992887d2028d6950d6d49ab9fb8e18d66e8b69cbf4fde68c03e02d02ab7a9b21d9b1cb1519dd93eab2e3136c0afab651b",
  "version": "3",
  "signer": "MEW"
}

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June 04, 2019, 12:06:36 PM
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^^
Thank you !
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June 04, 2019, 04:23:50 PM
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Apparently on June 1st (I definitely wasn't in Stockholm).

If I were you, I'd like to see my logs again in 7-10 days period, you know...to make sure there are no further unauthorized visits.

The alleged first IP log from Sweden has been reported multiple times with different violations:

https://www.abuseipdb.com/check/185.159.156.5

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