Maybe Satoshi created the greatest prize competition

[NotoriousHodler]

Competition? And how to participate?

[imunk]

Maybe Satoshi created the greatest prize competition and the privatekeys are somehow within the blockchain.

Where you got that information ? I think Satoshi didn't make any competition that gave greatest prize but the about the private key can you elaborate more, and what source information you got from, sorry I got curious after reading you threads

[PrimeBitExchange]

Maybe Satoshi created the greatest prize competition and the privatekeys are somehow within the blockchain.

Where you got that information ? I think Satoshi didn't make any competition that gave greatest prize but the about the private key can you elaborate more, and what source information you got from, sorry I got curious after reading you threads

I  guess it's just like a competition without any particular end. The higher the price the better but there's no end for it. At least I hope so

[threadsupport]

globaltreasure:

and the privatekeys are somehow within the blockchain

TheArchaeologist:

And I found a total of a whooping 148 addresses where an existing BTC-address was used as the passphrase for another one. My findings:

Code:

Used as Passphrase:                   Resulting used address:  
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1JwSSubhmg6iPtRjtyqhUYYH7bZg3Lfy1T -> 19QBydCuMiY7aRTbkP2tb3KQJUWkTrr5Xi
1JoshVWQDa7DzXqN3wQ9dbig5WEfaAzHcM -> 1Hg9pi75XWAT9pB3faXQFKKZbh98cbM5m
15SP99eiBZ43SMuzzCc9AaccuTxF5AQaat -> 18XAotZvJNoaDKY7dkfNHuTrAzguazetHE
1Q81rAHbNebKiNH7HD9Mh2xtH6jgzbAxoF -> 1LgwKwv9kt8BwVvn6bVWj8KcqpP9JSP1Mh
145Sph2eiNGp5WVAkdJKg9Z2PMhTGSS9iT -> 1HhNZhMm4YFPSFvUXE6wLYPx63BF7MRJCJ
1FEwM9bq3BnmPLWw5vn162aBKjoYYBfyyi -> 18VZKyyjNR8pZCsdshgto2F1XWCznxs86P
1CVPe9A5xFoQBEYhFP46nRrzf9wCS4KLFm -> 1LVRWmpfKKcRZcKvi5ZGWGx5wU1HCNEdZZ
1BBBvd9G5YThYVVMSGSxJzQvQiQm3WxJC2 -> 1EFBsAdysTf81k72v9Zqsj3NMuo6KoWD2r
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18EF7uwoJnKx7YAg72DUv4Xqbyd4a32P9f -> 1G6qfGz7eVDBGDJEy6Jw6Gkg8zaoWku8W5
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[almightyruler]

No one knows exactly why Satoshi kept those coins stuck on that address but there's surely a reason for that. It could be because he wanted people to try and find the mistery behind this or it could be because he just wanted to let the funds there forever so that everyone will remember that address as Satoshi's address. Or maybe Satoshi is already a very rich person and his waiting until bitcoin price gets to $100k in order for him to become one of the richest person in the world.

My take on this: being very cautious about his privacy, he waited until there was sufficient diversity of miners creating new blocks, and then only moved funds from those later blocks. That way, he's just another tree in an ever-changing forest.

Imagine the uproar there would be if one of the oldest never-spent (ie early coinbase) outputs was moved now.

[qubitasic]

No one knows exactly why Satoshi kept those coins stuck on that address but there's surely a reason for that. It could be because he wanted people to try and find the mistery behind this or it could be because he just wanted to let the funds there forever so that everyone will remember that address as Satoshi's address. Or maybe Satoshi is already a very rich person and his waiting until bitcoin price gets to $100k in order for him to become one of the richest person in the world.

My take on this: being very cautious about his privacy, he waited until there was sufficient diversity of miners creating new blocks, and then only moved funds from those later blocks. That way, he's just another tree in an ever-changing forest.

Imagine the uproar there would be if one of the oldest never-spent (ie early coinbase) outputs was moved now.

They will be moved and that is the most challenging thing. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5166180.0

[satoquotes]

And about his Hard drive?

The privatekeys are somehow within the blockchain. So you don't need a hard drive or another storage. As long as the blockchain exists you have access to the keys.

It is, but, you need to know it in order to access you wallet address if  you are accessing your wallet on another device.

Maybe Satoshi created the greatest prize competition and the privatekeys are somehow within the blockchain.

Our guess is that he knew that the early mined coins will be moved one day. So he created a 'prize competition'. Otherwise he could move the coins to quantum resistant P2PKH addresses, but he did not and is not doing.

The only question is:

Who will win the race and get the early coins?

Quantum computing or solving the "Satoshi Prize Competition".

Nobody can stop that race.

[satoshyknew]

Satoshi knew that one day quantum computers will exist and will be able to move the early mined coins (P2PK) and created an unofficial prize competition to accelerate the development.

Maybe Satoshi created the greatest prize competition and the privatekeys are somehow within the blockchain.

Our guess is that he knew that the early mined coins will be moved one day. So he created a 'prize competition'. Otherwise he could move the coins to quantum resistant P2PKH addresses, but he did not and is not doing.

The only question is:

Who will win the race and get the early coins?

Quantum computing or solving the "Satoshi Prize Competition".

Nobody can stop that race.

Nobody is asking why he is not moving the early mined unmoved P2PK coins:
These early mined unmoved P2PK coins are intented for an unofficial prize competition
https://bitslog.com/2013/04/17/the-well-deserved-fortune-of-satoshi-nakamoto/
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=175996.0

But he had other computers to mine and his own coins are unknown (P2PKH or P2PK not included in the above mentioned coins)

[satoshyknew]

* 100% sure that it is a prize competition
* 100% sure that you can solve it only with the blockchain
* still trying to solve it
* one day someone will solve it

Sergio says that the slope in the picture (This is Satoshi) https://bitslog.com/2013/04/17/the-well-deserved-fortune-of-satoshi-nakamoto/ is caused by restarting the application to mine (wallet) but it is possible that each 'black branch' represents one solution. That would avoid that only one winner gets the whole coins.

[hundredpercent]

December 2015 a Bitcointalk member discovered a puzzle transaction while playing around with his bot:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1306983.msg13381244#msg13381244
At that time nobody declared such a puzzle transaction which was created January 2015 until the creator of that competition came out 2 years later:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1306983.msg18765941#msg18765941
As of 01/10/2019 there are still more than 100 BTC to win. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5166284.0

We think that the early mined coins of Satoshi are also a prize competition and that Satoshi is waiting this coins to be moved. We also think that he will not respond after somebody moves the first coins but it will be a message to the Bitcoin community that the private keys are somehow on the blockchain. If Satoshi disagreed with that conclusion he would have moved the coins to other addresses.

[almightyruler]

We think that the early mined coins of Satoshi are also a prize competition and that Satoshi is waiting this coins to be moved. We also think that he will not respond after somebody moves the first coins but it will be a message to the Bitcoin community that the private keys are somehow on the blockchain. If Satoshi disagreed with that conclusion he would have moved the coins to other addresses.

Interesting hypothesis, but these could have also happened...

- He lost the keys (James Caan doesn't know how to do backups)
- He became incapacitated in some way, and family/friends didn't know he was Satoshi, or how to recover the funds
- He saw how big Bitcoin's economy had become, and chose to destroy (or put on ice) his private keys, knowing that if the early blocks move it could crash the economy

[hundredpercent]

Yes, almightyruler, anything could have happened. And Satoshi knew that all. He tested all the blockchain with many computers before releasing the applications. He knew what can happen.

Gavin Andresen started a project to give away free Bitcoins https://freebitcoins.appspot.com/ (no more working) and Satoshi wrote June 2010:
Excellent choice of a first project, nice work. I had planned to do this exact thing if someone else didn't do it https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=183.msg1620#msg1620

He waited but thought that someone else will do it. We think that he is waiting that someone moves the early mined coins to show to the Bitcoin community that it's a prize competition and that the private keys are somehow on the blockchain.

[hundredpercent]

Satoshi wrote:

SHA-256 is very strong.  It's not like the incremental step from MD5 to SHA1.  It can last several decades unless there's some massive breakthrough attack.

But he did not transfer the early mined coins to SHA-256/RIPEMD addresses. It would change the structure of the prize competition.

* 100% sure that it is a prize competition
* 100% sure that you can solve it only with the blockchain
* still trying to solve it
* one day someone will solve it

[DaCryptoRaccoon]

We think that the early mined coins of Satoshi are also a prize competition and that Satoshi is waiting this coins to be moved. We also think that he will not respond after somebody moves the first coins but it will be a message to the Bitcoin community that the private keys are somehow on the blockchain. If Satoshi disagreed with that conclusion he would have moved the coins to other addresses.

Interesting hypothesis, but these could have also happened...

- He lost the keys (James Caan doesn't know how to do backups)
- He became incapacitated in some way, and family/friends didn't know he was Satoshi, or how to recover the funds
- He saw how big Bitcoin's economy had become, and chose to destroy (or put on ice) his private keys, knowing that if the early blocks move it could crash the economy

I still think the keys are out there.
We're just looking in the wrong places.

I have done LOT of research into this and I do believe there is another project that is linked to bitcoin in more ways than one that may hold the answer to this question.

To seek the truth one must think outside the "blox" pardon the pun.

I do think that there are keys out there to be found I highlty doubt the person behind the satoshi name was a greedy or self centered individual I would put money on it there is a cryptographic puzzle out there related to numbers, Images, and the blockchain.

The question is who will solve it?

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10   dix

[satoshyknew]

Hi,

All below addresses were emptied this year. Most of them in Sept. 2019. Around 2982 BTC in 21 addresses.
All addresses were first used in 2011, and dormant until now.
BCH is still there except 1 address.

No spending transactions on them so the public key was not known.
The owner he suddenly remembered after 8 years that he had some BTC?

12CpK8apTJfaMSiPYhGMDdaRRFYoS721Px
13GUJutC6GKgJQTcGzCtznDDYFQKVJFVwp
13Sa73PU9Ar5sE4SdFcBdbg9ntbNcMQhaA
14k4GhqA1svNZPbssdAjgdnfzWTpAigZVH
14nppk7sMVv91n1Nch6DQKaFto3wVmh8yT
16KVwFVDfU3DKrvnGGSM7hsGp3MnvHczuB
17tXBRCQzQz87zYetp3wwJRms4fcWN4a8v
18ws2qaW2xBRWGCmfjnDiDHa55A5iSJogP
18xEu7DB8u58ivNa3VwEFeEc4ZbjtMVtPD
19w2MURRz5LsjNHCckmp65YX4WCc7kJdJF
1APGxVLKXhXepeaAjV6z3s4d7xCYXXDwmj
1Aw7mXtLMDjTBNcaqjv6cT935BEQQr5vRF
1B3m4F831f9u6ySnpYbUwgriJAgS3tuso5
1BpqxJp2LEban4mJou5rDHYmzA9eTwKbXY
1CbvcQXEYrqXqbBczHL8to3xeVZ3EsgrhH
1DKwr32h5F6uuUmePdT7esZ21AfK7ovASK
1FRtwC64bWcMb7RGBcwLJTup6tYrCMs9ge
1HQT2UZEK4i3yHnYbVTaXNccgnM45th94f
1MtUY5R3xixWfthqrprVPWMMTwR5A7GU2x
1nYrmtXVjX9G3Q86tdKcKQRCq2MPVvNp9

What are your opinions?

Maybe someone solved a puzzle.

Re: Bitcoin treasure https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5146858.0

1W7yh46qNUqw3RhyWzRVHjuJnHWpQqy7W
13AJqcp7GJRmAEePJqZHJCZLsXPSZuPzn9
13DCZ3sj6gVFVymdTd1mjz3BZZ5g1CQgbr
15JiPJoFoqoBTMcGDWahv5CjxYgdt1msDM
16kG6iyB3oGchcxXJccjjSmtdqBeRsDgio
17RsqLeP4XVT95htFoT9iWu7C4vAZw2FoW
19g8gf31otseCiYcdXPBh2qGEjrpEpqaoe
1A1hm4i1NbGLDFjp6sRMC6NoxZdQeSfD36
1BNVEnRmCbdP5QbuPySTHkznoSMMnkbvG6
1CFjxrYr8PkZoLgnHoAy1pRvg1WwvhuPVL
1DJfq3Nw1xjrrBVHGT3V1ZGxPBHVnJfivC
1EYyYeWSKGriPUK8juC9ubDQzKQUEpJfe7
1GTEootnGUPVw1M77QAQgm32iV7vq2aKJL
1GsaJu5LxJWKJumfiYmmJx28czQ11fXaeK
1Hcbg5k8kbmzcih3Xbzob9RhDZ3QcyfY3i
1JugDKUGpcKztsEfJroMESH92VA134sLSL
1L8YfeDDdY12mcM8j7XmoXGNsv5a8JoMVh
1Li8RFUotXHJPNazCM8HAfnkxKcrKXXpiH
1N1rBm39bTiLyXnW7jkQxxnfBmHC4SZdMV
1NUoeQnBB9QeAigU4r8iApsd4b4iiRpN6V

[satoshyknew]

Satoshi knew all this. He has been testing Bitcoin for two years before we could use it.

How long have you been working on this design Satoshi?  It seems very well thought out, not the kind of thing you just sit down and code up without doing a lot of brainstorming and discussion on it first.  Everyone has the obvious questions looking for holes in it but it is holding up well

Since 2007.  At some point I became convinced there was a way to do this without any trust required at all and couldn't resist to keep thinking about it.  Much more of the work was designing than coding.

Fortunately, so far all the issues raised have been things I previously considered and planned for.

He knew that a HDD can fail, and all other forms of privatekey storage can be useless for some reason. That is why he put the privatekeys of his early mined coins somehow into the blockchain. All these coins are P2PK addresses and he did not transfer them to P2PKH addresses although they are more secure. (quantum resistant)

SHA256 is not going to be broken by Moore's law computational improvements in our lifetimes.

Nobody is asking why he did not move and is not moving these early mined unmoved P2PK coins:
https://bitslog.com/2013/04/17/the-well-deserved-fortune-of-satoshi-nakamoto/
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=175996.0

Our guess is that he knew that the early mined coins will be moved one day. So he created a 'prize competition'. Otherwise he could move the coins to quantum resistant P2PKH addresses, but he did not and is not doing.

Indeed, there are people out there, who are trying to solve this and hopefully someone will be able to move the first coins.

Open letter/question to Satoshi https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5159185.0;all
Maybe Satoshi created the greatest prize competition https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5150688.0

December 2015 a Bitcointalk member discovered a puzzle transaction while playing around with his bot:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1306983.msg13381244#msg13381244
At that time nobody declared such a puzzle transaction which was created January 2015 until the creator of that competition came out 2 years later:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1306983.msg18765941#msg18765941
As of 01/10/2019 there are still more than 100 BTC to win. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5166284.0

We think that the early mined coins of Satoshi are also a prize competition and that Satoshi is waiting this coins to be moved. We also think that he will not respond after somebody moves the first coins but it will be a message to the Bitcoin community that the private keys are somehow on the blockchain. If Satoshi disagreed with that conclusion he would have moved the coins to other addresses.

Satoshi could move some of these coins and and show how the privatekeys were implemented into the blockchain. This is the only possibility to prove that he is the real Satoshi as nobody else could know it. Even if someone else finds a privatekey (or a bunch of eg 10 privatekeys) of these coins, this person can't show another one. But the real Satoshi can, as he knows for all these coins the solution. But he will not, he is waiting that someone finds it and moves the first coins, others will follow.

One day these posts will become very valuable. They are like Bitcoin in 2009.