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October 03, 2019, 06:09:48 PM
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If the abortion is completely voluntary, ie a couple or a woman decides to abort what would become a very healthy baby,

then this has some very negative philosophical implications. Someone who is willing to terminate a faultless human life form, which is completely dependent on their power to flourish, just for their own convenience would have to be a very morally compromised individual, to say the least...


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October 03, 2019, 06:16:45 PM
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If the abortion is completely voluntary, ie a couple or a woman decides to abort what would become a very healthy baby,

then this has some very negative philosophical implications. Someone who is willing to terminate a faultless human life form, which is completely dependent on their power to flourish, just for their own convenience would have to be a very morally compromised individual, to say the least...



But if we completely ban it it's going to be just as bad with victims of rape being forced to deliver the baby and deformed children being allowed to be born and then suffer all their lives.

That's why we should never go black or white on anything and work out a compromise. Abortion is not only good or only bad, just like a knife can be sharp or dull, used to spread butter on a toast or stab someone in the back.
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October 08, 2019, 07:08:29 AM
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If we're to express our opinion:

*I am for abortion;
*Until the fetus isn't born... You know
*Everything happens in life, you can't protect yourself from pregnancy, if it happens, you must have a last-resort.
*What should rape victims do when government bans abortions? Carry the seed for 9 months and then leave it for government to take care? You will loose many precious time of your life.
*A lot of abortion doctors are inexperienced and can lead to serious injuries, they even do aborts illegally. They should have a license and experience.

This is only my opinion. It may be very straight forward. But this is what I believe.

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October 08, 2019, 01:47:31 PM
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If we're to express our opinion:

*I am for abortion;
*Until the fetus isn't born... You know
*Everything happens in life, you can't protect yourself from pregnancy, if it happens, you must have a last-resort.
*What should rape victims do when government bans abortions? Carry the seed for 9 months and then leave it for government to take care? You will loose many precious time of your life.
*A lot of abortion doctors are inexperienced and can lead to serious injuries, they even do aborts illegally. They should have a license and experience.

This is only my opinion. It may be very straight forward. But this is what I believe.

Thanks for expressing your beliefs. But think.

Can you remember back to the time that you were 2-years-old? How about 1? How about 3 months in Mommy's tummy?

As we get older, things of the past change in our view. You might remember your favorite toy from when you were 10-years-old. But it isn't as important to you. You don't view it in the same way that you did when you were 10, even if you can remember your 10-year-old feelings.

The only difference between your current memory and your fetus memory is that you, now, think in different terms than you did back then. Back in embryo stage, your memory was mostly cellular. But at no time were you less a person than you are now. The only difference, now, is your focus and your experience.

Don't kill the fetus. Don't kill the embryo. They are people. It's murder.

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October 10, 2019, 02:55:44 PM
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i will also be against the general opinion but in my opinion abortion is permissible, no one outside of me can decide on my body, not having sex before marriage must be a choice not an imposition, i believe that abortion after the fourth month of pregnancy can be done only for serious cases of congenital diseases...
abortion is more or less like committing a murder,  Yes!  It's your body but why not make use of protection when having sex,  moreso abortion is dangerous to the health of who ever wants to do it, there are lots of cases where by doctor do tell the patient not to do it because of the risk involved.

If a person decides not to use protection and had several abortion,  there will be a time where by she won't be able to overcome it,  health wise and for the sake of not feeling guilty of committing murder it's better not to do it

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October 10, 2019, 03:03:38 PM
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If someone is not able to speak for themselves, it don't mean we could kill them at our will. Abortion at will should be punished as a murder unless the birth may lead to medical complications to the mother and prescribed by a doctor.
Studies have shown that fetus feels. And even most of the civil laws accepts the right of the fetus on the wealth as a probable person.
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October 10, 2019, 04:17:26 PM
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- Fetuses are not babies;

- Unwanted kids will have psychological problems;

- Force motherhood it's a kind of punishment, but only for women: they practiced the "terrible sin of sex"; There is something sadistic, really sick about it.

- People should take care of their own lives. Usually the same people who are against abortion support the death penalty and many are against universal health care. That's intriguing... they are pro-punishment, not pro-life.
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October 11, 2019, 10:32:50 AM
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I don't really know my stands on this....honestly because of the fact that I don't know the situation I will be in as a doctor at any moment...better still I largely agree with you
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October 11, 2019, 12:12:27 PM
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I don’t have a uterus.   So I believe I should have no say in what other people do with theirs. I don’t think it should be used as a form of birth control but I think it is a better alternative than raising an unwanted and unloved child.

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October 11, 2019, 03:07:49 PM
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These questions never lead to any conclusion.
They are philosophical discussions and the positions of each of us depend on many parameters, religious beliefs, education, standard of living and lifestyle.
It is good to protect life but on the other hand we cannot condemn a 12 to 13 year old child to become a mother for a wrong decision to make sex.
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October 11, 2019, 04:00:22 PM
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i totally agree with the reasons you have explained above why sometimes there is need for abortion but different religions have taken strong positions on abortion; they believe that the issue encompasses profound issues of life and death, right and wrong, human relationships and the nature of society, that make it a major religious concern.
People involved in an abortion are usually affected very deeply not just emotionally, but often spiritually, as well. They often turn to their faith for advice and comfort, for explanation of their feelings, and to seek atonement and a way to deal with their feelings of guilt.
Because abortion affects heart as well as mind, and because it involves life and death.
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October 11, 2019, 04:33:42 PM
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I have high regards to government which countries who can allow and give rights to their citizens to kill themselves in the name of freedom. This should go along in the issue of abortion where pregnant women to have rights to decide for abortion. We give them rights to chose and vote, abortion should be a right for them as well. Not a question whether its murder or not unless defined in their law its murder which is punishable by the law that CIVIL society shall witness.
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October 11, 2019, 04:48:33 PM
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"If she's free to abort it, I'm free to abandon it."

Unless the pregnancy is forced upon the woman, I think it all boils down to modern women not wanting to take responsibility for their actions. The only time I would agree with an abortion is for pregnancies that occurred due to rape. In this case the woman should be able to get rid of it (the earlier the better) and the rapist would have no say on it.

For those resulting from consensual sex, if she don't want it but he does, then he supports her during pregnancy and then he take custody of the baby. If she wants it but he don't then she keeps it and pay for all expenses during the pregnancy. Either way they share the expenses after its born since they made it together. 

If neither wants it then the government loans them money for the pregnancy, then takes the baby after it's born then put it up for adoption so someone who actually wants it may take it. 
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October 12, 2019, 12:18:19 AM
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Killing a person is murder. A fetus or unborn is a person, or prove that it is not... don't just adjudicate that it is not.

If a pregnancy isn't wanted, don't have sex. Are you 100% sure your protection will work? If it doesn't, don't become a murderer.

The best bet is to get married before sex, and act like you are going to raise a family, even if your protection works.

The aborted, murdered kid might have been you.

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October 12, 2019, 03:20:51 AM
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This should go along in the issue of abortion where pregnant women to have rights to decide for abortion. We give them rights to chose and vote, abortion should be a right for them as well. Not a question whether its murder or not unless defined in their law its murder which is punishable by the law that CIVIL society shall witness.
For me, abortion is a form of cowardice. They should not kill that innocent fetus just because it happened unexpectedly because it was not the right solution. If their government legalize it then I feel pity for them; whatever you will say killing is wrong thus should not be tolerated at all cost. If a woman get pregnant which is not accprding to her plan then she have no choice but to face it with her furture husband by her side. No one saide it would be easy but they could make it once they embraced and accept the blessing they get.



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October 12, 2019, 05:37:11 AM
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This is a subject I can see both sides of.  Although I'd personally lean more heavily towards the anti side of things, I can see some circumstances where abortion might be the right thing.

But at the end of the day, it does not affect me one bit, and I do not put much effort or thought into something that does not affect me. We had three children, and would never even entertain the thought of abortion.

But as long as it is legal, it's none of my concern what someone else does that has no effect on me.


The one place I do draw a hard line .... is that if one chooses to do this, I don't want it funded by my tax dollars. You made your decision, it's your problem, not mine. Likewise, if you are on welfare and churn out 11 babies with 9 different baby daddies, I shouldn't be funding and financially furthering your poor choices. Your problem, figure it out without my money. 

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October 12, 2019, 04:51:23 PM
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George Carlin summed it all up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgjGwOByays

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October 12, 2019, 09:54:03 PM
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While I’m pro-choice, I also feel that this is total government overreach. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2019/10/11/california-to-require-abortion-medication-at-public-colleges/amp/

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October 13, 2019, 09:57:53 PM
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I kind stand anti-abortion not because of religion but because of teenagers are into sex nowadays and their partners are getting pregnant, they chose to hide it and abort their child i mean face your consecquences instead of killing your own child.

But when the time i chose between the child and mother especially the child is fetus, i would chose to abort the child and save the mother.
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"My body, my choice, I can abort my baby for any reason or no reason at all, as long as it is in my womb, even at 8 months"
They can abort their baby for any reason or no reason but they can't kill a child they don't have the right to kill a child. If anyone don't want to carry a child then why they sleep together without protection? Every girl should be punished if anyone aborts a baby without any valid reason(Mother will die if she births a child).
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