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June 07, 2019, 06:34:04 PM
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I have spent the past year and a half researching bitcoin fundamentals, and I have the pleasure of telling you all that YES bitcoin has fundamentals. I have the data to prove it.

Not only that you can use bitcoin's fundamentals to identify RISK in your investment. Here is my in-depth research on why bitcoin didn't go below $3300 during the "crypto winter".

https://www.amsinger.org/open-research

An investment in bitcoin on feb 7 had virtually no risk. That was a day to go deep in.

Fundamental analysis is an important tool for all traders and holders to have. It is important to know the bounds of bitcoin. Technical analysis on Feb 7 would have said bitcoin was in a "descending channel" or "ready to capitulate". Fundamental analysis said no way.

Fundamental analysis is understanding the natural cash flow and asset expenditure of world wide miners based on the hash rate. It is what is necessary to understand what you are investing in in bitcoin or any crypto. It is the only way to gauge how much speculation is in the market.

My clients get current and realtime data. They have the true edge.

I hope you guys like the research!

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June 08, 2019, 01:03:27 AM
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An investment in bitcoin on feb 7 had virtually no risk. That was a day to go deep in.

There is no investment that has no risk. It is easy to say that looking at the past.

Ofc it was a good money to buy in, as the price was low, but nobody knew it couldn´t go even further below.

I hope you do not tell your clients bitcoin is risk zero.

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An investment in bitcoin on feb 7 had virtually no risk. That was a day to go deep in.

There is no investment that has no risk. It is easy to say that looking at the past.

Ofc it was a good money to buy in, as the price was low, but nobody knew it couldn´t go even further below.

I hope you do not tell your clients bitcoin is risk zero.

I didn't say zero risk, I said virtually no risk. At that price and hash rate they were able to make bitcoins for ~$3100 the price was ~$3300 that is 6% risk from the price floor. That is virtually no risk for crypto. I knew this when it was happening because I grab data every 5 min. since Jan 15 2019. You can ask the people in my building I lived in in Rotterdam. I was screaming for people to buy Wink

I did know, because the numbers told me. I don't invest with emotion, FOMO, or "where I think it will go" I have lost too much money dreaming. Now I follow risk levels and awareness exclusively.

I am trying to share my research and discoveries with my fellow traders. Trading crypto is not hard when you understand how its cash flow works. How could you invest in a stock without knowing its cash flow and asset balances?

I will post my personal bitcoin history tomorrow to let people know just how much I could have saved with knowledge of the price floor and speculation levels. It is a gross amount of money Sad lol

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I am trying to share my research and discoveries with my fellow traders. Trading crypto is not hard when you understand how its cash flow works. How could you invest in a stock without knowing its cash flow and asset balances? I will post my personal bitcoin history tomorrow to let people know just how much I could have saved with knowledge of the price floor and speculation levels. It is a gross amount of money Sad lol


I think I am learning a thing or two with your post here. I am interested to know more on bitcoin fundamentals as it can be a good guide in investing with bitcoin. Now, looking at the current price of bitcoin, do you think it can still safe to enter the bitcoin mania or not anymore?

 
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June 08, 2019, 06:24:21 AM
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I am trying to share my research and discoveries with my fellow traders. Trading crypto is not hard when you understand how its cash flow works. How could you invest in a stock without knowing its cash flow and asset balances? I will post my personal bitcoin history tomorrow to let people know just how much I could have saved with knowledge of the price floor and speculation levels. It is a gross amount of money Sad lol


I think I am learning a thing or two with your post here. I am interested to know more on bitcoin fundamentals as it can be a good guide in investing with bitcoin. Now, looking at the current price of bitcoin, do you think it can still safe to enter the bitcoin mania or not anymore?

I don't think there's such thing of safe entry point or not. As long as you know the simple trading rule which is, buy low sell high, and you are in profit even small amount. Then, I believe you are doing good with your investments.

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I am trying to share my research and discoveries with my fellow traders. Trading crypto is not hard when you understand how its cash flow works. How could you invest in a stock without knowing its cash flow and asset balances? I will post my personal bitcoin history tomorrow to let people know just how much I could have saved with knowledge of the price floor and speculation levels. It is a gross amount of money Sad lol


I think I am learning a thing or two with your post here. I am interested to know more on bitcoin fundamentals as it can be a good guide in investing with bitcoin. Now, looking at the current price of bitcoin, do you think it can still safe to enter the bitcoin mania or not anymore?

Indeed, crypto trading is easy if you have fully understand the cash flow and how it works because you'll be able to know the decision to make at a specific time. It is very important that a trader knows the fundamentals of trading for them to be able to be successful.
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June 08, 2019, 07:14:35 AM
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I am trying to share my research and discoveries with my fellow traders. Trading crypto is not hard when you understand how its cash flow works. How could you invest in a stock without knowing its cash flow and asset balances? I will post my personal bitcoin history tomorrow to let people know just how much I could have saved with knowledge of the price floor and speculation levels. It is a gross amount of money Sad lol


I think I am learning a thing or two with your post here. I am interested to know more on bitcoin fundamentals as it can be a good guide in investing with bitcoin. Now, looking at the current price of bitcoin, do you think it can still safe to enter the bitcoin mania or not anymore?

I don't think there's such thing of safe entry point or not. As long as you know the simple trading rule which is, buy low sell high, and you are in profit even small amount. Then, I believe you are doing good with your investments.
I agree with this.If you believe on entry point and other stuffs which only being said by those who releases "TA's" then youre not a trader.Any entry point is a risk,theres no safe or critical entry point.As long as you get profit whatever price you enter you're a good trader.

 
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June 08, 2019, 07:20:00 AM
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Indeed, crypto trading is easy if you have fully understand the cash flow and how it works because you'll be able to know the decision to make at a specific time. It is very important that a trader knows the fundamentals of trading for them to be able to be successful.
Seriously? You must be a millionaire if you feel that crypto trading is easy. Everyone in the crypto community know how difficult it is to trade in this extremely volatile market which is why you need to do more research before making such wild statements.

I agree with this.If you believe on entry point and other stuffs which only being said by those who releases "TA's" then youre not a trader.Any entry point is a risk,theres no safe or critical entry point.As long as you get profit whatever price you enter you're a good trader.
This does not mean that TA analysis does not help. In fact, it actually gives you a better idea of what to expect in certain situations. I don't usually depend on such tools myself, but they are helpful nonetheless.

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June 08, 2019, 07:41:10 AM
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It is always funny how professional traders want to measure risk and debate the "speculative" aspect of Bitcoin and also to determine trends based on historic data and most of the time, they fail.

We are not dealing with something that are being traded in a 100% regulated environment, where statistics are 100% measurable.  Grin These people are searching for a edge that would give them more profits and Bitcoin could care less about profits and margins and all that nonsense.

We are invested in the "freedom" that it gives us and the currency value it offers us, not the investment value.  Wink

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I have spent the past year and a half researching bitcoin fundamentals, and I have the pleasure of telling you all that YES bitcoin has fundamentals. I have the data to prove it.

Will you buy 1 Bitcoin at $4000 ? That is the fundamentals. It is all about the money. That is the reason Bitcoin fell from $20,000 to $3000 and there is a 8000 Bitcoins seller in bitcointalk.org.
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Interesting analysis. Although mining is only one factor which you should take into consideration when figuring out trend changes.
When price is too low to be profitable miners quit, close their businesses and dificulty falls making it easier and cheaper to mine. This is the main fundamental. So this has to do mostly with adoption. Miners think they dictate the prices but they can't be more wrong. Price is about supply/demand. Supply is finite with Bitcoin. We can only have 21m and this is a critical factor that makes it's price rise astronomically. The other factor is adoption (demand). Seeing how there is no massive adoption, as it was happening at the same month 2 years ago, I can only see price going down for the time being.

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An investment in bitcoin on feb 7 had virtually no risk. That was a day to go deep in.

There is no investment that has no risk. It is easy to say that looking at the past.

Ofc it was good money to buy in, as the price was low, but nobody knew it couldn´t go even further below.

I hope you do not tell your clients bitcoin is risk zero.


I have to agree. In fact, all kinds of investments have risks and so as Bitcoin. It's explain everything to your clients because they might think that investing in Bitcoin is 100% safe. The market is volatile and anything could happen in an instance so new investors must be aware of this.

 
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All I really did when it comes to investment is to buy at low and sell in high but now I am now having interests in this post and these fundamentals. I think studying this thing will help correct my investments and lessen the risks. Low and bulls are never expected to when it will happen but this is a lot of help.

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All I really did when it comes to investment is to buy at low and sell in high but now I am now having interests in this post and these fundamentals. I think studying this thing will help correct my investments and lessen the risks. Low and bulls are never expected to when it will happen but this is a lot of help.

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June 08, 2019, 01:50:47 PM
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Now, looking at the current price of bitcoin, do you think it can still safe to enter the bitcoin mania or not anymore?
In my opinion, it is still a big YES for me. Why? Simply because btc is not yet skyrocketing to the moon. As we look on the lates update on btc's price, it is now currently heading to $8k mark. It is not even the half of the ATH that we reached last year. But still, depends on your perspective and gut feel. If you now feel threatened then much better for you to back out as soon as possible.

There are only two fundamentals that I always apply:
1) Invest what you can afford to lose, and
2) Buy low, sell high.

By doing this two, I already feel safe and relieved Smiley.

 
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June 08, 2019, 02:13:04 PM
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Risk tolerance is different from person to person, which also depends on age. I however wouldn't ever consider an investment (doesn't matter what it is) risk free. I am a Bitcoin maximalist myself, but we have to take into consideration that our risk tolerance is completely different from those who aren't as maximalist.

Fundamentals are a bitch in terms of crypto pricing. It only required one or two frustrated large holders on an exchange as Bitstamp or Coinbase to dump it below $3000 and the market might have looked completely different right now. Only in hindsight we can confirm bottoms and thus what the best entry point was. Don't ever assume the bottom is in because the price looks very low fundamentally.

There is a saying that markets can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent, and it's true.


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June 08, 2019, 02:17:25 PM
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Bitcoin is not a stock so there's no mathematical formula that allow you to calculate very accurate values of potential profits - Bitcoin is a commodity, and it's most closely relate to gold, as both are forms of decentralized money. Basically, Bitcoin's fundamentals consist of fiat money inflation, demand for decentralized and private money, and how well Bitcoin works as that form of money. Volatility is an interesting factor here - it hurts Bitcoin's usability as a currency and store of value, but it's beneficial for traders because it creates opportunity for making profit.

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June 08, 2019, 02:26:35 PM
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An investment in bitcoin on feb 7 had virtually no risk. That was a day to go deep in.

There is no investment that has no risk. It is easy to say that looking at the past.

Ofc it was a good money to buy in, as the price was low, but nobody knew it couldn´t go even further below.

I hope you do not tell your clients bitcoin is risk zero.
0% risk doesn't exist when it comes to investment world even on our simply decisions in life do have always that corresponding risk.
I don't know why there are people who do keep telling about zero risk yet these are impossible things to happen.
If they do tell it into their clients then they are doing bullshit business.

 
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June 08, 2019, 02:34:15 PM
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Indeed, crypto trading is easy if you have fully understand the cash flow and how it works because you'll be able to know the decision to make at a specific time. It is very important that a trader knows the fundamentals of trading for them to be able to be successful.
Seriously? You must be a millionaire if you feel that crypto trading is easy. Everyone in the crypto community know how difficult it is to trade in this extremely volatile market which is why you need to do more research before making such wild statements.

i may be wrong about him in particular but usually when i see someone is saying trading cryptocurrencies is an easy task they are saying it because they tried trading and they got lucky with an altcoin pump or two so their whole conclusion is based on that. in long term everyone eventually realizes how hard it is to consistantly make profit specially when there is manipulation involved.

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June 08, 2019, 06:01:55 PM
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You're right. I also tend to believe that if some kind of analysis and works in this market, it is only fundamental. Still, some cryptocurrencies have a certain cyclicity and some moments can be predicted by studying their price chart.

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