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June 21, 2019, 08:53:31 AM
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Let's look at the question by points:

1.) Smart man is involved in a huge circuit of merit abuse. Yes/No?
2.) Smart man has a lot of alts and with the help of them he deceives customers by making false reviews in his thread. Yes/No?
3.) Smart man is involved in the scam project Adab Solutions. Yes/No?
4.) Smart man was hiring in and offering Spam-service. Yes/No?

If it is not a systematic problem but just about user Smart man then it should simply be dealt with on the scam accusations board or reputation board rather than meta.
If you really carefully read the first post, then you should have noticed that I found a lot of abusers. Smart man was only the beginning of my research.
I came here because I found huge problems in Ru local that no one sees or tries to solve.

Smart man does not equal total corruption in Russian local [DT involved!]


If I write "Government conspiracy involving police and ministers" and then offer an alleged shoplifter as proof would you conclude there is a government conspiracy ?

Historically - most of the users that post about large scale conspiracies often turn out to be dubious themselves. So "evidence" is not just accepted as "trust me it is true".




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1.) Smart man is involved in a huge circuit of merit abuse. Yes/No?

Not proven.

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2.) Smart man has a lot of alts and with the help of them he deceives customers by making false reviews in his thread. Yes/No?

No proof provided that false reviews were made.

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3.) Smart man is involved in the scam project Adab Solutions. Yes/No?

I have not looked at this yet.

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4.) Smart man was hiring in and offering Spam-service. Yes/No?

Probably. Not proven it is a spam service.

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June 21, 2019, 09:00:50 AM
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xtraelv

Let's look at the question by points:

1.) Smart man is involved in a huge circuit of merit abuse. Yes/No?
2.) Smart man has a lot of alts and with the help of them he deceives customers by making false reviews in his thread. Yes/No?
3.) Smart man is involved in the scam project Adab Solutions. Yes/No?
4.) Smart man was hiring in and offering Spam-service. Yes/No?

If it is not a systematic problem but just about user Smart man then it should simply be dealt with on the scam accusations board or reputation board rather than meta.
If you really carefully read the first post, then you should have noticed that I found a lot of abusers. Smart man was only the beginning of my research.
I came here because I found huge problems in Ru local that no one sees or tries to solve.

Smart man does not equal total corruption in Russian local [DT involved!]


If I write "Government conspiracy involving police and ministers" and then offer an alleged shoplifter as proof would you conclude there is a government conspiracy ?

Historically - most of the users that post about large scale conspiracies often turn out to be dubious themselves. So "evidence" is not just accepted as "trust me it is true".

Why didn't you answer simple questions? I have evidence on all counts.

If you prove a lot of thefts and show how the police protect the thieves, then obviously this will be proof of corruption.

I do not propose to "believe" my words - I show the facts. If you have doubts about these facts, I am ready to discuss them.

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June 21, 2019, 09:04:46 AM
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Let's look at the question by points:

1.) Smart man is involved in a huge circuit of merit abuse. Yes/No?
2.) Smart man has a lot of alts and with the help of them he deceives customers by making false reviews in his thread. Yes/No?
3.) Smart man is involved in the scam project Adab Solutions. Yes/No?
4.) Smart man was hiring in and offering Spam-service. Yes/No?

If it is not a systematic problem but just about user Smart man then it should simply be dealt with on the scam accusations board or reputation board rather than meta.
If you really carefully read the first post, then you should have noticed that I found a lot of abusers. Smart man was only the beginning of my research.
I came here because I found huge problems in Ru local that no one sees or tries to solve.

Smart man does not equal total corruption in Russian local [DT involved!]


If I write "Government conspiracy involving police and ministers" and then offer an alleged shoplifter as proof would you conclude there is a government conspiracy ?

Historically - most of the users that post about large scale conspiracies often turn out to be dubious themselves. So "evidence" is not just accepted as "trust me it is true".

Why didn't you answer simple questions? I have evidence on all counts.

If you prove a lot of thefts and show how the police protect the thieves, then obviously this will be proof of corruption.

I do not propose to "believe" my words - I show the facts. If you have doubts about these facts, I am ready to discuss them.

Huh?

I answered each question.



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June 21, 2019, 09:52:13 AM
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You have edited your post. I continue:
1.) In the first post, I showed “big” donors of merit for Smart man. Why are they all banned for plagiarism/another abuse and sent merits to users banned for plagiarism/another abuse? Can there be so many coincidences?
Here is another scheme of merit flow. Please note that most users are also banned for plagiarism. You can check it through BPIP.
Most of the users who wrote in the Smart man topic either is on this scheme or are directly connected with it. Again coincidences?



2.) Just check his topic.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2058283.0 Many examples 1 2 3 etc.
Note in the thread a lot of dialogs like:
- Wrote to you in PM.
-Thank you, answered, we will work.
-Good! I agree it.
- Fine, I'm waiting.
-I sent you new documentation.
-Got it, work.
Very funny, do real customers behave like this?  Wink

3.) Please do it. It is very important.

4.) Ha ha. There is no evidence that the spam service produces spam? OK.

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June 21, 2019, 10:23:21 AM
Last edit: June 21, 2019, 10:59:50 AM by xtraelv
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xtraelv

You have edited your post. I continue:

My post was edited well before you made your post.

1.) In the first post, I showed “big” donors of merit for Smart man. Why are they all banned for plagiarism/another abuse and sent merits to users banned for plagiarism/another abuse? Can there be so many coincidences?
Here is another scheme of merit flow. Please note that most users are also banned for plagiarism. You can check it through BPIP.
Most of the users who wrote in the Smart man topic either is on this scheme or are directly connected with it. Again coincidences?

In the absence of concrete proof it is a co-incidence. It doesn't make it untrue. It makes it unproven.

There are serious issues with jumping to conclusions based on merit data. See for yourself:



In the absence of other proof it can lead to all sorts of false allegations.


2.) Just check his topic.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2058283.0 Many examples 1 2 3 etc.
Note in the thread a lot of dialogs like:
- Wrote to you in PM.
-Thank you, answered, we will work.
-Good! I agree it.
- Fine, I'm waiting.
-I sent you new documentation.
-Got it, work.
Very funny, do real customers behave like this?  Wink

This is common shitposter behavior. It is dealt with by reporting the post to the moderator and getting it deleted and if the user does it enough times they get banned.

Where is the proven link to Smart man ?
Without concrete proof it is a mere allegation. While some people may place feedback based on allegations. Most won't.


3.) Please do it. It is very important.

Unfortunately I have decided not to look into that actual allegation of whether that project is a scam because the thread is largely run by circle jerkers that have hijacked a number of threads and made a number of unsupported scam accusations against various projects. Any rational discussion in the thread automatically assumes that you promote what is probably a scam. So rational discussion of fact is near impossible. I am neither interested in being seen as a "promoter" of what is probably a scam nor getting brain cancer from arguing with idiots..

I have seen no proof that Smart man is the instigator of the scam rather than a misguided investor or  bounty manager.

4.) Ha ha. There is no evidence that the spam service produces spam? OK.

Calling something a spam service is not evidence of spam. It is circular logic.

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June 21, 2019, 11:43:55 AM
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xtraelv

You have edited your post. I continue:

My post was edited well before you made your post.

1.) In the first post, I showed “big” donors of merit for Smart man. Why are they all banned for plagiarism/another abuse and sent merits to users banned for plagiarism/another abuse? Can there be so many coincidences?
Here is another scheme of merit flow. Please note that most users are also banned for plagiarism. You can check it through BPIP.
Most of the users who wrote in the Smart man topic either is on this scheme or are directly connected with it. Again coincidences?

In the absence of concrete proof it is a co-incidence. It doesn't make it untrue. It makes it unproven.
When hero member tema send merits only to abusers and Smart man its ok?
When I described in detail who sent merit, where, it is not specific data that are proof? I showed a lot of abusers who act on one pattern. This is specific data that is evidence of abuse.

2.) Just check his topic.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2058283.0 Many examples 1 2 3 etc.
Note in the thread a lot of dialogs like:
- Wrote to you in PM.
-Thank you, answered, we will work.
-Good! I agree it.
- Fine, I'm waiting.
-I sent you new documentation.
-Got it, work.
Very funny, do real customers behave like this?  Wink

This is common shitposter behavior. It is dealt with by reporting the post to the moderator and getting it deleted and if the user does it enough times they get banned.

Where is the proven link to Smart man ?
Without concrete proof it is a mere allegation. While some people may place feedback based on allegations. Most won't.
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Hiring in bumping service he is listed on the Merit flow diagram above.

MrBoston        3/25/2018 9:48:00 PM password changed     5/14/2019 9:52:40 PM   woke up connected to the Merit flow diagram above

Fixxer767        3/25/2018 10:20:35 PM password changed   5/12/2019 1:30:10 AM   woke up

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pradobo  banned, he is listed on the Merit flow diagram above.

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Alex6562 banned, connected to the Merit flow diagram above

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This is not the standard behavior of shitposters to up someone else's thread with positive comments and impersonate customers.

3.)
I have seen no proof that Smart man is the instigator of the scam rather than a misguided investor or  bounty manager.
You do not need to do any research. Smart man himself writes that he worked with this project and that he learned that this project was scam. But he did not warn anyone about this.
Is this not complicity in crime?

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4.) Ha ha. There is no evidence that the spam service produces spam? OK.

Calling something a spam service is not evidence of spam. It is circular logic.
What is the name of hiring workers with multiple accounts for bumping a thread and providing this kind of service?
Evidence of these actions is in the first message.

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June 21, 2019, 11:46:28 AM
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There is definitely an issue of many permabanned users getting merit.  I think the main issue is that plagiarism is hard to detect and often fools the reader into believing that it is a good quality post.

Permabanned user getting merit doesn't mean that merit was sent for e.g. plagiarised posts. tvplus006 and lovesmayfamilis are notable scam researchers and got a lot of merits for that work. Later turned out to have plagiarised in the past.

https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=lovesmayfamilis
https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=tvplus006

I believe chimk ended up at the top of the list mainly because of users like that, and not because of lack of due diligence in sending merits, let alone corruption.
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I believe chimk ended up at the top of the list mainly because of users like that, and not because of lack of due diligence in sending merits, let alone corruption.
This question requires a separate discussion.
At the moment, chimik is accused of corruption because of the protection of the scamer - Smart man.

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June 21, 2019, 12:04:28 PM
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I believe chimk ended up at the top of the list mainly because of users like that, and not because of lack of due diligence in sending merits, let alone corruption.
This question requires a separate discussion.
At the moment, chimik is accused of corruption because of the protection of the scamer - Smart man.

Disagreeing with your opinion is not "protection".

As xtraelv mentioned, this is best resolved on the Russian board where users have a better understanding and better sense of context for the allegations. But you didn't get the support you wanted there so now you're fishing on the English boards hoping that someone among the non-Russian-speaking DT members will take your word for it. Combined with your tendency to jump to conclusions without evidence, I find that quite dishonest.
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I believe chimk ended up at the top of the list mainly because of users like that, and not because of lack of due diligence in sending merits, let alone corruption.
This question requires a separate discussion.
At the moment, chimik is accused of corruption because of the protection of the scamer - Smart man.

Disagreeing with your opinion is not "protection".

As xtraelv mentioned, this is best resolved on the Russian board where users have a better understanding and better sense of context for the allegations. But you didn't get the support you wanted there so now you're fishing on the English boards hoping that someone among the non-Russian-speaking DT members will take your word for it. Combined with your tendency to jump to conclusions without evidence, I find that quite dishonest.

I showed evidence on all counts.
Do you propose to ask corrupt users to fight with themselves? Good point  Smiley

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For whom did I write about the search of proofs?

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Reasonable questions to be asked:
1. What accounts were hired?
2. What threads did they write in?
3. Give examples of messages, how many messages are deleted as spam?
4. Was there a contract at all?

Thank you for translating my quote. As I already wrote previously - your weakness lies in absence of 100% proof. It's a digital forum. Users forum much more believe facts and figure, than idle speculation.

You have created a world of your own, and you consider as proof those things that are not really proof.


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For whom did I write about the search of proofs?

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Reasonable questions to be asked:
1. What accounts were hired?
2. What threads did they write in?
3. Give examples of messages, how many messages are deleted as spam?
4. Was there a contract at all?
There are answers to these questions - there is a red trust, there are no answers to these questions - there is no red trust. It seems accessible and understandable?

Thank you for translating my quote. As I already wrote previously - your weakness lies in absence of 100% proof. It's a digital forum. Users forum much more believe facts and figure, than idle speculation.

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1.) Smart man is involved in a huge circuit of merit abuse. Yes/No?
2.) Smart man has a lot of alts and with the help of them he deceives customers by making false reviews in his thread. Yes/No?
3.) Smart man is involved in the scam project Adab Solutions. Yes/No?
4.) Smart man was hiring in and offering Spam-service. Yes/No?

Give answer please.

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June 21, 2019, 12:30:12 PM
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1.) Smart man is involved in a huge circuit of merit abuse. Yes/No?
2.) Smart man has a lot of alts and with the help of them he deceives customers by making false reviews in his thread. Yes/No?
3.) Smart man is involved in the scam project Adab Solutions. Yes/No?
4.) Smart man was hiring in and offering Spam-service. Yes/No?

Give answer please.

1. Maybe yes, maybe no. I don't see 100% proof.
2. From what such conclusions are drawn?
3. I'm not aware of this project.
4. Proposed service - Yes, the spam service - where is the evidence? Back to my 4 questions:

Reasonable questions to be asked:
1. What accounts were hired?
2. What threads did they write in?
3. Give examples of messages, how many messages are deleted as spam?
4. Was there a contract at all?

As I said - there are no answers to these questions - there is no evidence that the service was engaged in spam.


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1.) Smart man is involved in a huge circuit of merit abuse. Yes/No?
2.) Smart man has a lot of alts and with the help of them he deceives customers by making false reviews in his thread. Yes/No?
3.) Smart man is involved in the scam project Adab Solutions. Yes/No?
4.) Smart man was hiring in and offering Spam-service. Yes/No?

Give answer please.

1. Maybe yes, maybe no. I don't see 100% proof.
2. From what such conclusions are drawn?
3. I'm not aware of this project.
4. Proposed service - Yes, the spam service - where is the evidence? Back to my 4 questions:

1.) What proof is required? Notarized receipt? I showed the facts.
2.) Did you read this post?
           
Everything is already clear, but I went further. I checked the topic where Smart Man offers his services (writing WP and promotion of ICO) and allegedly communicates with customers. Within 10 minutes, I discovered that most of the discussion participants were alts of Smart Man. To save space and time I will show the most interesting ones:

Blanchrc40    3/25/2018 9:32:14 PM password changed    5/9/2019 8:34:21 AM   woke up
Hiring in bumping service

MrBoston        3/25/2018 9:48:00 PM password changed     5/14/2019 9:52:40 PM   woke up

Fixxer767        3/25/2018 10:20:35 PM password changed   5/12/2019 1:30:10 AM   woke up

Jeronimo78        3/18/2018 4:13:10 PM password changed  5/9/2019 8:29:33 AM   woke up


3.) Find out. It is easy.
There are banned user Afina_22
She sent merit to Smart man and was connected to him through other abusers. She is the topic starter (in russian local) of scam project Adab Solutions
Who started the topic in the English section? - whitetoo 3/25/2018 9:53:53 PM   password changed
3/25/2018 10:26:45 PM   password changed
Smart man himself confessed that he collaborated with Adab and received money from them, but everyone pretended that they did not notice this. Even after I pointed it out!

4.) Do you also need proof that spam service exists to produce spam?

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Someone is blind. Isn't that great? Cool
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2891755.0
http://archive.fo/SmmLM

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So what do beginners who want to participate in the bounty but can't pump accounts?

 It's simple. Want to bounty? Buy accounts and participate. On the forum a lot of sellers. The average price of a member now is $250-300, a full member costs $800-1000.
It seems to you that it is expensive? Let's figure it out.

 You can easily get $250 for half a year on a bounty (less is possible, more is possible, as lucky). Compare with the same mining, where the return of investments in new equipment for half a year is considered a very good result. Only an account in half a year theoretically costs the same money and can be sold.

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Those who need accounts, stupidly buy them now as much as you need.

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Taк чтo дeлaть нoвичкaм, кoтopыe xoтят yчacтвoвaть в бayнти, нo нe мoгyт пpoкaчaть aккayнты?

 Bce пpocтo. Xoтитe бayнти? Пoкyпaйтe aкки и yчacтвyйтe. Пpoдaвцoв нa фopyмe кyчa. Cpeдняя цeнa мeмбepa ceйчac 250$-300$, ФyлMeмбepa 800-1000$.
Baм кaжeтcя чтo этo дopoгo? Дaвaйтe paзбиpaтьcя.

 250$ мoжнo cпoкoйнo пoлyчить зa пoл гoдa нa бayнти (мoжнo мeньшe, мoжнo бoльшe, кaк пoвeзeт). Cpaвним c тeм жe мaйнингoм, гдe oтбитиe
зa пoл гoдa нoвoгo oбopyдoвaния cчитaeтcя oчeнь xopoшим peзyльтaтoм. Toлькo aккayнт чepeз пoл гoдa тeopeтичecки cтoит тe жe дeньги и eгo
мoжнo пpoдaть.

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Te кoмy нyжны aкки, тyпo пoкyпaйтe иx ceйчac cтoлькo, cкoлькo Baм нaдo.

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Someone is blind. Isn't that great?  Cool

Many people really look blind here, he is littlerly comparing mining with account farming and think's it is more profitable also advicing the same to the newbies in the local section. He has already earned much of an merits from this cycle documented in the OP. Looks really untrustworthy LOL!

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Only an account in half a year theoretically costs the same money and
can be sold. But the equipment is depreciated and is already cheaper. In this case, what is easier? Collect a farm and mine with the risk of burning it
and an apartment or writing 10 posts a week?
Source: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2891755.0

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June 22, 2019, 01:37:12 AM
Last edit: June 22, 2019, 01:54:53 AM by chimk
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Hello!
 1. I knew that such a day would come, morally I am ready for any checks. I declare: - there are no abuses in my actions.

I have never sold merit.
I have never engaged in the exchange of merit by agreement.
I did not provide benefits in the activities of DT and did not pursue anyone, without good reason.
I did not buy, did not sell, and did not accept as a gift forum accounts.

Accounts created by me, I have no other accounts.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1202061
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2252498
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2259013

I can prove that I created the chimk account, for this I need to open some personal data. I am ready to do this in personal correspondence with administrators.
I do not use other accounts.

2. This accusation of Smart man was published 3 times.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5105985.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5105163.msg49583617#msg49583617
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5105163.msg51398628#msg51398628

Smart man gave explanations
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5105163.msg51411806#msg51411806
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5105163.msg51412195#msg51412195
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5105163.msg51412275#msg51412275

 I read a lot of forum, sometimes it leads to a comparison of suspicious facts, it takes a lot of time. I first responded on June 10, 2019. I studied this case, read the Smart man's answer, read the opinions of other participants in the discussion, and did not see evidence that the Smart man is detrimental to users or the forum. I have stated my position several times. There is not enough evidence of fraud to negatively assess the trust of this user.

I was charged with protecting the service and in the conflict of interest. In this post, KTChampions lied twice. I do not advertise or defend the service. Smart man is not my friend, I am not familiar with it.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5105163.msg51419663#msg51419663
http://archive.md/VQtc1

User Smart man does not have marks for this episode, from other users. I think everyone understands that my opinion cannot have such an effect. Moreover, I started to participate in the discussion only on June 10, 2019.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1090672
Other cases involving Smart man, I have not studied.

3 Another slander about me.
And chimik has an alt which is connected with a set of merit abusers.
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Polkeins                           4/6/2018 3:49:26 PM   password reset via email
                                         7/9/2018 6:24:31 AM   password changed
                                         8/9/2018 6:55:31 PM   password changed

chimk                                4/16/2018 8:44:51 PM   password reset via email
                                         8/9/2018 9:55:07 PM   password changed

This is slander. Please verify this charge, if possible. password reset in April on different dates? More stupid accusations I have not met. Changing the password matched in numbers, but did not coincide in time. Maybe there is someone else who changed the password 8/9/2018? This method of accusations can be a scenario for future attacks, now I will take countermeasures.

4. Merit Smart man.
For the first time I awarded him the merits of 2/25/2019 and 3/29/2019
for a little investigation into the bounty. Before that, he received a lot of merit without my participation. Examples:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3051995.msg31419121#msg31419121
48 merit
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3066618.msg31593227#msg31593227
45 merit
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3190976.msg33070682#msg33070682
28 merit
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3369080.msg35298458#msg35298458
17 merit.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2891755.msg29729057#msg29729057
12 merit

 After this, Smart man began to write more about bitcoin and I liked that the number of content posts on btc increased. I began to award him more merit. The increase in outgoing merits from the Smart man also contributed to this, earlier he was less willing to distribute outgoing merits.

5.  
This model of behavior did not change even when two DT kzv (Hero member, DT-1), MaoChao (Legendary, DT-1) members expressed the opinion that the available evidence directly speaks about hiring in a bumping service and offering a bumping service.
The only change that happened - Chimik excluded kzv from his trusted list and added him to the list of users whom he does not trust!
Surprisingly, these two members of DT, did not leave a mark in the Smart man’s trust. I hope they understand that nobody restricts them in this right.

I removed kzv from the list of trust much earlier, I did not like its list of trust, in particular, there was amaclin1. We discussed this with him in personal correspondence. ~ kzv I put, after kzv wanted to include fxpc in my list, which I consider to be a bitcoin hater, a troll, I consider him a dangerous person, I got the impression that this is an unbalanced person with problems in the psyche, he often offends users and I I do not trust him. I also do not understand the kzv logic on some issues related to DT. I gradually formed the opinion that at the moment he is not ready for this work and to trust him DT, this is a bad service to him and the forum. I have no other complaints about kzv, I consider it a useful user. I often gave him merit for his contribution to the development of the forum and to maintain the section of CODERS, this is an act of trust.

This is another little detail of distorting the facts.

6. I give some examples to understand the prehistory. There are many examples, this is a large amount. In the Russian section, this situation is known.

In the Russian section, I wrote that I consider the activities of fxpc and KTChampions harmful for the forum. I did not make direct threats in changing the trust. But I made a lot of complaints about them to moderators, this can be seen in the statistics of the reports. For example, I made a lot of reports in the topic Analytics, analysis, forecasts. I made a lot of reports on the Lightning Network. Moderators have attached this topic in the section, at my request https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1152660.msg30028849#msg30028849
and I promised that we will maintain cleanliness in this topic.
In the topic of high activity KTChampions, fxpc, apxu (amaclin1).
Off top rudely took on such a scale that one of the most active and experienced users wanted to stop supporting the Lightning Network theme.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2897133.msg50233157#msg50233157
And I wrote to him publicly that these people are trying to achieve just that, the cessation of any activity in the development of BTC.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2897133.msg50236602#msg50236602

Another example of a smart man creates a bitcoin theme.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5150471.0
In the topic of high activity KTChampions, fxpc, apxu (amaclin1)
KTChampions is trying to prove that the BTC is a pyramid, calls BTC enthusiasts sectarians. fxpc rude to users, apxu (amaclin1) criticizes the technical side of the BTC.
http://archive.md/zVyA8

Example number 3 in the topic Bitcoin vs Gold vs Fiat I posted a link to the video that Bitcoin is more convenient than gold, I wrote that this video is gaining popularity. KTChampions wrote that this did not correspond to reality and accused me of distorting facts, fxpc supported him in an insulting form, after which I gave evidence of the popularity of this video.
http://archive.md/YRXEE#selection-465.4-465.29

7.
There is definitely an issue of many permabanned users getting merit.  I think the main issue is that plagiarism is hard to detect and often fools the reader into believing that it is a good quality post.

Permabanned user getting merit doesn't mean that merit was sent for e.g. plagiarised posts. tvplus006 and lovesmayfamilis are notable scam researchers and got a lot of merits for that work. Later turned out to have plagiarised in the past.

https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=lovesmayfamilis
https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=tvplus006

I believe chimk ended up at the top of the list mainly because of users like that, and not because of lack of due diligence in sending merits, let alone corruption.
You are absolutely right. I spend a lot of time checking texts and user profiles. I have folders in which already verified information is contained and there are many open cases. It is easy to check the text for plagiarism; it is difficult to check the entire profile for plagiarism. Every day, you need to consider dozens of applicants. In addition, I wrote several times in the Russian section about the need for everyone to be attentive to the observance of rule No. 33. I was sure that applicants for the DT1 list would not have plagiarism in their profile. I was sure that they were ready for the checks, and was very surprised when I learned that they have plagiarism, so I took it as a betrayal.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5141782.msg50995549#msg50995549

https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=lovesmayfamilis
https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=tvplus006

you can add to them
https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=WhiteManWhite member DT1 received merit
https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=FapToBbly active participant and BTC supporter
https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=markiz73 active member supporting the section MINERS.
They all deserved merit and looked reliable, I often check profiles, but there is not enough time for everyone. It is especially difficult to find plagiarism in another language. And I did not support anyone in appeals, because everyone knew about the responsibility for plagiarism. And everyone saw this list in which the number of blocked for plagiarism is greater.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4588431.0

But this does not mean that I disclaim responsibility for my mistakes.

I apologize to the administrator for the poor statistics in this period, who entrusted me with helping the forum, as well as the entire community.

The other day I will write about it separately, I will indicate how I am guided in the distribution of merit and with what difficulties I encounter.

8. Is there corruption in the Russian section? I think that there is. I have some suspicions, I conducted several investigations. But I do not have enough evidence to state this publicly. Are there any improvements in the Russian section? Of course, there are major improvements. Thanks to those who found the opportunity to participate in the consideration of the charges.

I did a lot of work a few days, came home yesterday, today wrote this message, which allowed me to understand the importance of what I was doing. The growth of bitcoin brings pain to some people))) they need to buy some soothing medicines. Now I have to go to bed, it’s already morning.

P.S. Sorry for the mistakes, I wrote and translated all night.

Edit:changed the design item number 3

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June 22, 2019, 05:08:42 AM
Last edit: June 22, 2019, 05:36:40 AM by KTChampions
 #38

I was charged with protecting the service and in the conflict of interest. In this post, KTChampions lied twice. I do not advertise or defend the service.

Ha ha. I'm lying, and you are telling the truth?

Check the facts. Smart man hiring in and offering bump service:

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REQUIRED POSTING IN ENGLISH THREADS
1. Contact me if in your accounts at least half of the posts in English.
2. Posts up from 100 signs.
3. Express an opinion about the project, ask questions. Don't write nonsense.
4. English is not Google translate.
5. You have from 5 accounts.

I will completely do (with the command) the required:
- posting messages to thread on btt.
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Hi guys looking for posters for a project. Write your telegram in pm.

 So what exactly is needed? Posts on btt, thread bumping on btt? Writing articles? PM me.

These are facts. And how does Chimik rate them?

chimk (Hero member, DT-1, merit source)
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I saw that he was hiring in posting service, in good English, with a requirement for the quality of the content (both volume and content). There is no evidence that this is a promotion of scam projects, that the service has been implemented by shitposting-not proven, the existence of the service itself from this post is also in question.
~

This is an obvious defense of the scam that harms the forum with spam and meaningless messages written for one purpose - to bump the project thread.
Chimik defend Smart man and his spam on forum. It is facts.

Chimik, your behavior is not trustworthy obvious, but additionally answer these questions:

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1.) Smart man is involved in a huge circuit of merit abuse. Yes/No?
2.) Smart man has a lot of alts and with the help of them he deceives customers by making false reviews in his thread. Yes/No?
3.) Smart man is involved in the scam project Adab Solutions. Yes/No?

Question number 4 is missing as above, I have already shown a chimiks lie on this issue.

Smart man gave explanations
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5105163.msg51411806#msg51411806
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5105163.msg51412195#msg51412195
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5105163.msg51412275#msg51412275

 I read a lot of forum, sometimes it leads to a comparison of suspicious facts, it takes a lot of time. I first responded on June 10, 2019. I studied this case, read the Smart man's answer, read the opinions of other participants in the discussion, and did not see evidence that the Smart man is detrimental to users or the forum. I have stated my position several times. There is not enough evidence of fraud to negatively assess the trust of this user.
It's funny that chimik believes the words of a scamer, not facts.
And it is very interesting that in the first report, Smart man tells how he collaborated with the scammers Adab, but chimik does not see any problems! Although Smart man writes that they are scamers, he did not warn anyone about this.


 I read a lot of forum, sometimes it leads to a comparison of suspicious facts, it takes a lot of time.
~
Other cases involving Smart man, I have not studied.

Are you stupid or blind? I showed in the first post how easily and quickly find  facts that shows that Smart man is a scamer.
You are protecting a fraudster but are not able to verify his profile by yourself? I doubt, most likely you know all but continue to protect him.

I can show another lie that the chimik wrote, but I don’t want to give him a chance to go to offtopic.
Therefore, I will wait for an answer to the questions posed.

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Your explaination about your personal bheviours looks decent to me, I don't think you did something wrong in giving merits to the banned users as it is not displayed clearly on the forum. But there is no explanation about smartman being trustworthy in any sense, if you see he has clearly tried to spam the forum by offering this services.

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REQUIRED POSTING IN ENGLISH THREADS
1. Contact me if in your accounts at least half of the posts in English.
2. Posts up from 100 signs.
3. Express an opinion about the project, ask questions. Don't write nonsense.
4. English is not Google translate.
5. You have from 5 accounts.

Is this something thats allowed here ?

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REQUIRED POSTING IN ENGLISH THREADS
1. Contact me if in your accounts at least half of the posts in English.
2. Posts up from 100 signs.
3. Express an opinion about the project, ask questions. Don't write nonsense.
4. English is not Google translate.
5. You have from 5 accounts.

Is this something thats allowed here ?
If this is true then why DTs from Russian section didn't neg him?

We had seen lot of negs in the previous days even for the suspicion but offering such kind of services are completely untrustworthy behaviour.

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