I am creating a
Red Flag against
Lutpin today after having tried without success for the last few weeks to have Lutpin hand over the donation funds for the Known Alts thread that have been donated to the wallet address
1KnownF41AXkhgry3wNTHJ7NZM6jo1Kohy which at the time of writing this has a balance of 0.017975 BTC.
The Known Alts thread has had three incarnations:
Mk I - 65 pages, 1,287 posts
Mk II - 73 pages, 1,441 posts
Mk III - 79 pages, 1,575 posts (and counting) with less than 24 hours between the first and second and then less than 24 hours between the second and third thread's creation.
Lutpin claims both the Lauda created thread and the thread I started are not the same as the first thread created by mexxer-2 as a primary reason for not handing over the donation funds.
@
mexxer-2 created the first thread and locked it abruptly, @
Lauda created the second thread and locked it abruptly so I created a third thread - but as yet see no need to lock it.
At some early stage after when mexxer-2 created the first thread the aforementioned wallet address
1KnownF41AXkhgry3wNTHJ7NZM6jo1Kohy was created for donations. Lutpin was the person holding the funds.
Two separate payouts occurred with
one payout being mostly to Lutpin himself and the
second payout was to an unspecified wallet address with no explanation forthcoming.
At the start of May 2019
I created two wallet addresses for donations to be made after a brief discussion amongst the active contributors where it was agreed I would hold onto donated funds. ON the 13th of May
I put out an appeal to whomever held onto the original donation funds to transfer them to the new wallet address signing a message.
02 June 2019, 11:09:47 I sent Lutpin a PM requesting the funds be sent over.
Greetings from Australia.
In
this post [
Archive] I posted the wallet address 1KnownXXXNtrjT539vAWckYqWi77jgUXs6 that I will manage after it was agreed that I could manage the donations to the
Known Alts of any-one thread.
In
this post [
Archive] maxxer-2 states that you manage that wallet address, so could you please forward the entire funds from 1KnownF41AXkhgry3wNTHJ7NZM6jo1Kohy to 1KnownXXXNtrjT539vAWckYqWi77jgUXs6 at your earliest convenience please?
I couldn't help but
notice this:
![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftalkimg.com%2Fimages%2F%26%2350%3B%26%2348%3B%26%2350%3B%26%2351%3B%2F%26%2348%3B%26%2353%3B%2F%26%2349%3B%26%2355%3B%2Fblobf%26%2355%3B%26%2353%3B%26%2350%3Ba%26%2354%3B%26%2355%3Bfb%26%2352%3Bee%26%2355%3B%26%2353%3Bec.jpeg&t=665&c=kmcik5Bj41KpAw)
will that cause an issue with the funds being sent?
Regards,
But received no reply.
On the 6th of June 2019
I asked if anyone was in contact with Lutpin who holds onto the donation funds. Joel_Jensen
offered to send a message, however, no message in reply by Lutpin.
On the 17 June 2019, 14:35:35
I posted in the known Alts thread that I had tried contacting Lutpin and I noted that he had been online multiple times after my initial PM to him.
Both in a PM the next day and in the Known Alts thread Lutpin has claimed the Mk II and III threads are not the same as the Mk I thread but won't elaborate. Lutpin also states the funds are
his to do with as he sees fit.
Given Lutpin is in dispute with mexxer-2 over money owed by mexxer-2 to Lutpin I asked how the two could discuss the funds being distributed, but got no reply.
Lutpin in two separate PM's has made veiled threats about what kind of retaliation he will take should I proceed to give him a Red Flag (type 3) as well as again dangling the promise of paying me "As a sign of good will" [
7], [
8] from the Known Alts "donation funds as a recognition of your valued contributions".
Lutpin doesn't want to discuss the donation funds for the thread that was closed two and a half years ago, nore does he want to hand over the funds to anyone else.
ON the 18th I posted a
lengthy breakdown of the events that have transpired in the Known Alts thread and it was another three days later that Lutpin finally responded.
[quote author=Lutpin link=topic=2544574.msg51543085#msg51543085 date=1561085120]
[quote author=Timelord2067 link=topic=2544574.msg51538902#msg51538902 date=1561052221]
he has no intention of responding to the request
[/quote]
I did so in my previous post, I told you I won't hand over the funds.
[quote author=Timelord2067 link=topic=2544574.msg51538902#msg51538902 date=1561052221]
he has no intention of justifying his actions.
[/quote]
My previous post has a lengthy explanation of my decision.
You might not like it, you might disagree, but it's there.
[quote author=Timelord2067 link=topic=2544574.msg51538902#msg51538902 date=1561052221]
At that time I'll have to step up my depute if no response occurs.
[/quote]
Do whatever you think is necessary.
Just keep in mind that you're not in the right here, and any action you take might amount to a violation, eg if you attempt to start a flag.
[/quote]
Lutpin has again been online in the last three days, but has not handed over the donation funds even though he admits I am an intended recipient and the consensus of the current contributors is that I be tasked with holding donation funds.
Because I am an intended recipient and on behalf of the other contributors I am left with no choice but to create this Red Flag Type 3.
[quote author=Timelord2067 link=topic=2544574.msg51506691#msg51506691 date=1560831926]
So Lutpin, please forward the remaining 0.017975 BTC (less *appropriate* transaction fees) from the wallet address
1KnownF41AXkhgry3wNTHJ7NZM6jo1Kohy to the wallet address
1KnownXXXNtrjT539vAWckYqWi77jgUXs6 [
Signed] as previously requested.
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[quote author=Timelord2067 link=topic=2544574.msg25949100#msg25949100 date=1512704962]
The following is a "live" balance:
![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fbtc-priceimg.herokuapp.com%2Fbalance%2F%26%2349%3BKnownF%26%2352%3B%26%2349%3BAXkhgry%26%2351%3BwNTHJ%26%2355%3BNZM%26%2354%3Bjo%26%2349%3BKohy%2F%26%2348%3B%26%2348%3Bf&t=665&c=M5Sr0TklPPDFjg)
which is valued at
![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fyoumeandbtc.com%2Fbitcoin-converter-php.php%3Fdir%3Dfrombtc%26%2338%3Bval%3D%26%2348%3B.%26%2348%3B%26%2349%3B%26%2355%3B%26%2357%3B%26%2355%3B%26%2353%3B%26%2338%3Bcur%3Dusd%26%2338%3Bbtctype%3Dbtc%26%2338%3Bexchange%3DBitstamp%26%2338%3Bdec%3D%26%2356%3B%26%2338%3Bbgc%3DDDEEFF%26%2338%3Btxtc%3D%26%2349%3B%26%2349%3B%26%2349%3B%26%2349%3B%26%2351%3B%26%2351%3B&t=665&c=bNHdPgbRaP7ATw)
1KNoWNMK34nGWz2sJy1JzihZdLCGTKcziw | ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fbtc-priceimg.herokuapp.com%2Fbalance%2F%26%2349%3BKNoWNMK%26%2351%3B%26%2352%3BnGWz%26%2350%3BsJy%26%2349%3BJzihZdLCGTKcziw%2F%26%2348%3B%26%2348%3Bf&t=665&c=zK88q5ZZICLF9g) |
1KnownXXXNtrjT539vAWckYqWi77jgUXs6 | ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fbtc-priceimg.herokuapp.com%2Fbalance%2F%26%2349%3BKnownXXXNtrjT%26%2353%3B%26%2351%3B%26%2357%3BvAWckYqWi%26%2355%3B%26%2355%3BjgUXs%26%2354%3B%2F%26%2348%3B%26%2348%3Bf&t=665&c=l2-ci-jvq5INQQ) |
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