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Author Topic: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!  (Read 129357 times)
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October 25, 2019, 09:25:36 AM
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PSG are also under investigation by UEFA for violating the Financial Fair Play policy and if there is no retribution for that then it gives almost every club the permission to do the same. UEFA must be firm and act upon it even it means they are disqualified from further  competition.

Financial Fair Play is a myth, Man City & PSG continue to get away with spending far more than they generate which is the whole point. They lie about their books/records & all they get is a slap on the wrist from UEFA or a minuscule fine. These teams won’t take it seriously unless they get banned from the CL for a season or two.

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October 25, 2019, 04:11:49 PM
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I believe if city can manage to scale through to the final of this year Champions League they might win it,  I think there is something missing among Psg and Man city,  they've got the players to win Ucl but always fail to reach the final,  just take a good look at Tottenham squad as compared to both teams mentioned above
What Pep said might be true, ManCity still has a lot to learn to reach the UCL final and become a champion. Since Peps arrival in City, they have shown a big change. Change the pattern of the game by dominating possession. I think this season Mancity can surprise UCL, but well see how they travel.
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October 25, 2019, 05:04:16 PM
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Do you refer to the financial fairplay?
I am not aware of any illegal activities done from the City that should be under investigation. The only one is the financial fairplay which I think that City doesn't follow the rules.

IF big IF I can recall correctly.

Manchester City is not only under investigation for the financial Fairplay.
I said only because the other accusations IF I can remember correctly is for fraud, they paid their coach with money outside the society.

More info here, https://edition.cnn.com/2019/03/08/football/manchester-city-uefa-investigation-spt-intl/index.html

The case of the city is huge is about violations for 5 years.

I wonder why they are still under investigation. Chelsea was banned instantly for violating the financial Fairplay. Manchester City which has more violations it is still under investigation and it is very odd.
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October 25, 2019, 06:41:33 PM
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^  Innocent until proven otherwise.  I guess somebody is hot on City's trail cos it prolly used more legal loop holes than any club recently.  Lolol.

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October 28, 2019, 11:32:02 AM
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One way or another, everything's going well for City. Many teams are struggling, including Real Madrid. Therefore I think the City looks great. I think City fans should enjoy today, contrary to what you say. The next stage will be challenging opponents and tighter challenges.
Facing easy teams in the first stage is not something good generally.. In the next round, many games are already fixed and coaches can test their substitutes...
Would you prefer being in easy Champions League group or having difficult opponents? I don't understand how facing easy teams is NOT good. You can rest your key players and secure promotion to knockout phase soon. Manchester City had luck with a draw this year.
In contrast, Barca has difficult group and both Borussia Dortmund and Inter are serious contenders for 1st place in the group. So Barca will need to play with their best team, risking injuries and so on.
The only reason why being in difficult group could be beneficial is money from ticket sales. Man City didn't sell out their matches against average teams like Dinamo Zagreb or Atalanta, while Barcelona sold 86000+ tickets against Inter and it will be similar against Dortmund.

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October 28, 2019, 02:34:14 PM
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One way or another, everything's going well for City. Many teams are struggling, including Real Madrid. Therefore I think the City looks great. I think City fans should enjoy today, contrary to what you say. The next stage will be challenging opponents and tighter challenges.
Facing easy teams in the first stage is not something good generally.. In the next round, many games are already fixed and coaches can test their substitutes...

This can be said of luck for Manchester city, because they are in a group that incidentally isn't too great. But after qualifying for phase 16, it will be a challenge for Manchester City because the one who passes to the next phase is definitely a really tough team.
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October 28, 2019, 03:33:44 PM
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^  Innocent until proven otherwise.  I guess somebody is hot on City's trail cos it prolly used more legal loop holes than any club recently.  Lolol.
There were some reports of Manchester City signing deals with companies associated their owner Sheikh Mansour in abid that they will be able to pass the financial fair play policy. Meaning they have been cheating all this while and to me the investigations has taken way too long and it's time that they ban them the same way they did to Chelsea.
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October 28, 2019, 03:44:09 PM
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One way or another, everything's going well for City. Many teams are struggling, including Real Madrid. Therefore I think the City looks great. I think City fans should enjoy today, contrary to what you say. The next stage will be challenging opponents and tighter challenges.
Facing easy teams in the first stage is not something good generally.. In the next round, many games are already fixed and coaches can test their substitutes...

This can be said of luck for Manchester city, because they are in a group that incidentally isn't too great. But after qualifying for phase 16, it will be a challenge for Manchester City because the one who passes to the next phase is definitely a really tough team.

In group C no one defeated Manchester City because it was stronger, it was worth it Man. City will qualify for the last 16, Dinamo Zegreb, Atalanta and Shartark unable to defeat Man. City
Man Man. City always Use the right tactics when fighting other clubs.

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October 28, 2019, 04:29:28 PM
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One way or another, everything's going well for City. Many teams are struggling, including Real Madrid. Therefore I think the City looks great. I think City fans should enjoy today, contrary to what you say. The next stage will be challenging opponents and tighter challenges.
Facing easy teams in the first stage is not something good generally.. In the next round, many games are already fixed and coaches can test their substitutes...

This can be said of luck for Manchester city, because they are in a group that incidentally isn't too great. But after qualifying for phase 16, it will be a challenge for Manchester City because the one who passes to the next phase is definitely a really tough team.

In group C no one defeated Manchester City because it was stronger, it was worth it Man. City will qualify for the last 16, Dinamo Zegreb, Atalanta and Shartark unable to defeat Man. City
Man Man. City always Use the right tactics when fighting other clubs.
c'mon look at the team in group C man. this is an easy group in my opinion. Manchester City has always been fortunate in the group qualifying rounds, they are in a group with teams that are easily defeated. I was hoping that Atalanta will be able to surprise them because they performed well in Serie A, but in fact, they haven't even won at all in Group C at this moment

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October 28, 2019, 05:10:33 PM
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One way or another, everything's going well for City. Many teams are struggling, including Real Madrid. Therefore I think the City looks great. I think City fans should enjoy today, contrary to what you say. The next stage will be challenging opponents and tighter challenges.
Facing easy teams in the first stage is not something good generally.. In the next round, many games are already fixed and coaches can test their substitutes...

This can be said of luck for Manchester city, because they are in a group that incidentally isn't too great. But after qualifying for phase 16, it will be a challenge for Manchester City because the one who passes to the next phase is definitely a really tough team.

In group C no one defeated Manchester City because it was stronger, it was worth it Man. City will qualify for the last 16, Dinamo Zegreb, Atalanta and Shartark unable to defeat Man. City
Man Man. City always Use the right tactics when fighting other clubs.
c'mon look at the team in group C man. this is an easy group in my opinion. Manchester City has always been fortunate in the group qualifying rounds, they are in a group with teams that are easily defeated. I was hoping that Atalanta will be able to surprise them because they performed well in Serie A, but in fact, they haven't even won at all in Group C at this moment

Atalanta does not have the mentality to play in the Champions League so that his opponents will be easily defeated, starting last week Atalanta won in the Italian league with a lot of scores but not in the Champions League like that, had to be corrected a lot after going to play in the Champions League.

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October 28, 2019, 06:09:49 PM
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^  Innocent until proven otherwise.  I guess somebody is hot on City's trail cos it prolly used more legal loop holes than any club recently.  Lolol.
There were some reports of Manchester City signing deals with companies associated their owner Sheikh Mansour in abid that they will be able to pass the financial fair play policy. Meaning they have been cheating all this while and to me the investigations has taken way too long and it's time that they ban them the same way they did to Chelsea.

Man City are a great team but commercially still a small club. They don’t sell out their pre season tours abroad. They don’t sell anywhere near as much merchandise as the likes of Barca, Real, Liverpool, Bayern, Man Utd etc.
City are definitely on the fiddle (their annual earnings). They have a states money behind them but that doesn’t count, you can only spend what you make as a club, not your owners blood oil money.

It will be good for football when them & PSG hopefully get punished.

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October 28, 2019, 07:50:23 PM
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^  Innocent until proven otherwise.  I guess somebody is hot on City's trail cos it prolly used more legal loop holes than any club recently.  Lolol.
There were some reports of Manchester City signing deals with companies associated their owner Sheikh Mansour in abid that they will be able to pass the financial fair play policy. Meaning they have been cheating all this while and to me the investigations has taken way too long and it's time that they ban them the same way they did to Chelsea.

Man City are a great team but commercially still a small club. They don’t sell out their pre season tours abroad. They don’t sell anywhere near as much merchandise as the likes of Barca, Real, Liverpool, Bayern, Man Utd etc.
City are definitely on the fiddle (their annual earnings). They have a states money behind them but that doesn’t count, you can only spend what you make as a club, not your owners blood oil money.

It will be good for football when them & PSG hopefully get punished.

Do you mean club which is wanted to hire SM influencers to promote the atmosphere on his stadium?  Cheesy Cheesy

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7614131/Man-City-sack-firm-responsible-embarrassing-PR-blunder-Champions-League-games.html

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October 29, 2019, 07:23:43 AM
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^  Innocent until proven otherwise.  I guess somebody is hot on City's trail cos it prolly used more legal loop holes than any club recently.  Lolol.
There were some reports of Manchester City signing deals with companies associated their owner Sheikh Mansour in abid that they will be able to pass the financial fair play policy. Meaning they have been cheating all this while and to me the investigations has taken way too long and it's time that they ban them the same way they did to Chelsea.

Man City are a great team but commercially still a small club. They don’t sell out their pre season tours abroad. They don’t sell anywhere near as much merchandise as the likes of Barca, Real, Liverpool, Bayern, Man Utd etc.
City are definitely on the fiddle (their annual earnings). They have a states money behind them but that doesn’t count, you can only spend what you make as a club, not your owners blood oil money.

It will be good for football when them & PSG hopefully get punished.

I think that Manchester City is big enough to fight in the same level as Barca,Real and other big teams in the competition.They just need to have more games against these teams in order to show their true value and potential.Liverpool did last year,now it is the turn of Manchester City to show they can do it too.

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October 29, 2019, 08:02:48 AM
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They just need to have more games against these teams in order to show their true value and potential.Liverpool did last year,now it is the turn of Manchester City to show they can do it too.

Well, if they can't go to semis then that won't be possible. You get the chance because you win, not because you believe you're equal with those teams.


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October 29, 2019, 11:30:55 AM
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They just need to have more games against these teams in order to show their true value and potential.Liverpool did last year,now it is the turn of Manchester City to show they can do it too.

Well, if they can't go to semis then that won't be possible. You get the chance because you win, not because you believe you're equal with those teams.



Too high hopes for Manchester City to enter the semi-finals. Manchester city is always tough in the domestic league, but for the champions league they are only able to phase 8 or 16 major.
That is why I say, it is too illusory for Menchester City to enter the semi-finals.
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October 29, 2019, 04:39:40 PM
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If Man City don’t make a CL Final in Pep’s time then you could say he fails. Mancini, Pellegrini both won domestic titles & that’s all Pep has matched. He was brought in to win the CL & he has to.

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October 30, 2019, 03:23:53 PM
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Would you prefer being in easy Champions League group or having difficult opponents? I don't understand how facing easy teams is NOT good. You can rest your key players and secure promotion to knockout phase soon. Manchester City had luck with a draw this year.
The money and injuries part are two important reasons but it is not the key ones. Injuries could happen even in training and money can be collected from other important games.
Playing vs easy teams will make the players more confident in a negative manner which may have an impact in the next games. Man City is a professional team indeed but facing some challenges is required in every step. We will see what will happen next

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October 30, 2019, 04:40:45 PM
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One way or another, everything's going well for City. Many teams are struggling, including Real Madrid. Therefore I think the City looks great. I think City fans should enjoy today, contrary to what you say. The next stage will be challenging opponents and tighter challenges.
Facing easy teams in the first stage is not something good generally.. In the next round, many games are already fixed and coaches can test their substitutes...

Why do you say that?
Facing easy teams is always good especially for teams that come from the Premier League or La Liga, where they play a lot of games during the season.
Playing against easy teams allow them to make rotation as well as securing the 1st place in the group and have easier matches in the next round.
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October 30, 2019, 05:05:37 PM
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If Man City don’t make a CL Final in Pep’s time then you could say he fails. Mancini, Pellegrini both won domestic titles & that’s all Pep has matched. He was brought in to win the CL & he has to.

Pep Guardiola will pursue this trophy, because CL is one of the most prestigious trophies and can be called a successful coach who has won the CL trophy, look at Man. City is unbeaten in this match, and I hope that after qualifying for the next round, we can face many goals.

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October 30, 2019, 05:17:02 PM
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If Man City don’t make a CL Final in Pep’s time then you could say he fails. Mancini, Pellegrini both won domestic titles & that’s all Pep has matched. He was brought in to win the CL & he has to.
You have a point, but would you put aside all his success with city simply because of one trophy, if city win the league this season, that'll be three in a row not to talk of if they add the league and fa cup, that'll be total domestic dominance and that's some feat worthy of note as well as something city wants, yeah the previous managers had various levels of success but I don't think any would be able to match peps success when he leaves.

The UCL is indeed a coveted title that city would be craving to win, pep wants it, the board wants it as well as the fans, and i believe city would push with all they have to get it this season, but if they don't and can make up with domestic titles, then it's a successful season I must say and I doubt if he can be called a failure.



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