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July 20, 2019, 08:38:08 AM
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For joining this signature campaign?


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5166711.0


Refresh my memory please

Because last time I checked, negatives where when you did evil stuff

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July 20, 2019, 08:46:29 AM
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I don't think you would get negative tagged for joining livecoin campaign.

But you could end up in yahoo62278's and probably other reputed managers personal blacklist for future and current campaign participants as discussed here.

Still, all this comes down to your own ethics if you would like to promote a exchange with shady TOS and a running scam accusation here.

BTW I don't think you should join it.
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July 20, 2019, 08:51:58 AM
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This is the actual link referenced in the trust flag.
Because last time I checked, negatives where when you did evil stuff
Trust flags are designed to be used for alleged scams and high risked profiles

For joining this signature campaign?

You did not get a negative free back gor joining a signature campaign. The campaign manager, LiveCoin Manager and the warning sign displays when thread created by that profile is viewed.

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July 20, 2019, 08:54:03 AM
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Because last time I checked, negatives where when you did evil stuff
Do you consider this evil?

But, even in this case, we allow to withdraw all funds after the removing of false information and consequences caused by this publication.
What kid of condition is this?

All further discussions of this issue will be held solely with the client and only after eliminating all negative effects.
Do you see blackmail?

We gave all explanations to the client as well, we suggested a few ways to solve this situation, but he refused. He threatens, abuses our staff and publish slander that has nothing to do with reality. Such behavior is illegal itself, it broke User Agreement as well local legislation too, this is a true SCAM. We also consider connivance of the bitcointalk administration in such questions - inappropriate.
Reporting and opening scam accusation is true scam. So, we stay silent?

Let's say you gave money or something valuable to someone. How would you feel if that someone starts taking advantage of this asset they are holding for you and demands you to perform some task or job that you think you did right?


Also please note that one of the highest respected campaign manager stopped managing their campaign.

So, you decide which way you should go. Against the tide?

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July 20, 2019, 08:56:26 AM
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So they are hiding behind their terms and conditions just like most gambling sites do with their bonuses that are impossible to withdrawal and what not.

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July 20, 2019, 08:57:46 AM
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Follow the discussion at Livecoin participants should be tag?

So far, no one has said livecoin participants will or should be tagged but a reputable manager will be blacklisting all who applied on that campaign unless they retract.

 
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July 20, 2019, 09:02:34 AM
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So they are hiding behind their terms and conditions just like most gambling sites do with their bonuses that are impossible to withdrawal and what not.

They are basically locking users funds, and deny to return them as user accused them on an online forum and in public. They even have this in there TOS. Huh
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July 20, 2019, 09:06:45 AM
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So they are hiding behind their terms and conditions just like most gambling sites do with their bonuses that are impossible to withdrawal and what not.
Can you specify the relevancy please. I failed to see how we can put them on the same page.

The gambling sites offer deposit bonus or any kind of bonus with this condition that you will have to wager x amount with minimum y odd or you will have to make some x amount of the bonus with minimum y odd before to withdraw. And if anyone can do that successfully then they promise to let them withdraw the money. I can not speak for others but with bet365, once I was successfully multiplied 3x times (that was their condition if I am correct with minimum 1/2 odd) of the deposit bonus (£250 I guess) got from them and they let me withdraw those money.

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July 20, 2019, 09:08:20 AM
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I doubt anyone will tag you for participating in the campaign but like other users said yahoo has openly stated that everyone willing to advertise LiveCoin will be blacklisted from his future campaigns and maybe other reputable managers will do the same.

If I were you I would wait for a better opportunity. The consequence of participating in the campaign means blacklisting for better things that will come in the future, I don't think it is worth it. 

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July 20, 2019, 10:56:18 AM
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I'd rather join a different campaign rather than to choose the one that has many red flags because of past bad behaviours.

As @hacker1001101001 just stated that they locked user funds because they've been exposed I guess that way is unethical IMHO.

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July 20, 2019, 12:40:27 PM
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For joining this signature campaign?


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5166711.0


Refresh my memory please

Because last time I checked, negatives where when you did evil stuff

I don't think that you will receive negative trust directly if you join this campaign.
But, you will run your own reputation on the forum because you will show that you don't care what others share about this campaign and their managers.
It's up to you to decide, to join or not.
Previous and very trustworthy campaign manager, with great reputation, Hhampuz, gave up from this campaign and now they have another manager and started over.



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While claiming to be registered in the UK, after some digging, we found their actual company to be registered in Belize, and the only mention online about their claimed CEO is a rather weird article on a seemingly affiliated “blockchain news site” – and we believe the person Ivona Zlatova is not a real one, and is placeholding for the actual people who run the exchange behind the scenes.
Source: https://www.cointelligence.com/exchanges_list/livecoin/

Livecoin scam accusation



Yes - it is a real possibility.

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July 20, 2019, 12:53:50 PM
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I supported the tag on Livecoin, and I'm of the opinion that people shouldn't be advertising for them--but personally I'm not going to start tagging the campaign participants.  Other DT members (or anyone else) might just do that, however, and it wouldn't be unprecedented.  Cryptodevil was going to tag me and the other participants of some campaign the name of which I can't even remember now, because it was an ICO that had started off its life as being shady.  Ultimately cryptodevil didn't tag anyone, but I do recall that people promoting Betcoin.ag (IIRC) did all get negged.

Yes - it is a real possibility.
It is.  For that reason, OP, I would not join this campaign.  For another reason, ethically it's not a great idea to be advertising for an exchange that might be a scam, and I think there's enough evidence to suggest that Livecoin is just that.

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July 20, 2019, 01:29:30 PM
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Too late Hhampuz tagged him
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July 20, 2019, 01:51:00 PM
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I don't think you would get negative tagged for joining livecoin campaign.
I second it.
Get tagged for wearing a signature isn't appropriate (may be Hhampuz will consider removing later) but you must think of all the scam accusations Livecoin have before promoting this project. I'm sure that you knew Hhampuz has recently left managing the campaign.

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July 20, 2019, 02:30:25 PM
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Like many, I am also mystified to Hhampuz's thinking when he tagged applicants of the new Livecoin signature campaign. But whatever his reasons are, the tags will be removed if they withdraw application. 

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EDIT; Fwiw, ever since flags were introduced ratings became more like post-it notes so getting a negative barely matters anymore. Don't tell me they do because I can show you a few good examples. If people remove their application I remove the neg, it is that simple (:


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July 20, 2019, 03:13:19 PM
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Too late Hhampuz tagged him

Seems like a little bit of butt hurt over being pressured out of managing them to me.


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July 20, 2019, 10:56:39 PM
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He want's off DT anyway.. I think his blacklist request got him off of DT1 but other DT1s have not respected his wishes to ~Hhampuz like he politely asked them to do..

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July 20, 2019, 11:23:16 PM
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There is an ongoing discussion here about this subject where many DTs expressed that they will not tag the campaign participants.
Trudt is unmoderated and with the new changes in the trust system, you never know who will be a DT next month!

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July 21, 2019, 12:03:34 AM
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So they are hiding behind their terms and conditions just like most gambling sites do with their bonuses that are impossible to withdrawal and what not.

Do you really want an answer to your OP or do you just want to find an excuse to join the campaign?

Honest people tend to avoid supporting proven scams. You shouldn't need a separate thread for such a non-dilemma, what with the flag on Livecoin account and the referenced thread.

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