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[WolfBet]

Fierce competition on today's race, congratulations everyone!

[FanEagle]

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I could be repeating myself , but this is how the anonymity working - you hide your username and it is not displayed wagering contest or not
you will find the same on every single gambling site , look at Stakes races aka wagering contest
there are barely 3-4 people in the top ten open each time , sometimes one or two
but I understand your doubts , the site is new and people tend to think , hey they are just paying money to themselves in these contests
you can't really check if its a real person or not , but I am sure there is no foul play going on , it would not be worth it in the long run

That sound like the best type of advice I have ever seen regarding the hidden names. If they want to stay hidden that means they should not be in the competition neither, they could try to participate but they will not win anything at all. Only the people with no hidden names should participate, that way we would at least get who wins what and at the same time hidden players will stay hidden if they want it so much.

However, after months of discussing the same thing, it is obvious that people hate to see these "hidden" names all the time but the website doesn't care about what you think, you know why? Because you and me talk here yet the "hidden" ones go play and make them money so they of course care about the people who make them money instead of people who talk for free.

[veleten]

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I could be repeating myself , but this is how the anonymity working - you hide your username and it is not displayed wagering contest or not
you will find the same on every single gambling site , look at Stakes races aka wagering contest
there are barely 3-4 people in the top ten open each time , sometimes one or two
but I understand your doubts , the site is new and people tend to think , hey they are just paying money to themselves in these contests
you can't really check if its a real person or not , but I am sure there is no foul play going on , it would not be worth it in the long run

That sound like the best type of advice I have ever seen regarding the hidden names. If they want to stay hidden that means they should not be in the competition neither, they could try to participate but they will not win anything at all. Only the people with no hidden names should participate, that way we would at least get who wins what and at the same time hidden players will stay hidden if they want it so much.

However, after months of discussing the same thing, it is obvious that people hate to see these "hidden" names all the time but the website doesn't care about what you think, you know why? Because you and me talk here yet the "hidden" ones go play and make them money so they of course care about the people who make them money instead of people who talk for free.

I understand your point , but look at it from a whale's perspective - you would not want your name to be displayed for many reasons
constant friend requests and begging personal messages I'm getting whenever I do not hide my name is one
there are so many people who think that they can get money be inundating others and the only way for them to be able to do that is to check high rollers or the leaderboards , so they know who to target
another reason if you do not want to show  your online presence , for example you told your wife/friends/boss you went to lover/drink/work and you are gambling instead
so if they see your name pop up , it kinda blows your cover  
and the only reason to not introduce anonymity is to satisfy someone's curiosity or prove something to unbelievers?

[tranthidung]

I understand your point , but look at it from a whale's perspective - you would not want your name to be displayed for many reasons
constant friend requests and begging personal messages I'm getting whenever I do not hide my name is one
there are so many people who think that they can get money be inundating others and the only way for them to be able to do that is to check high rollers or the leaderboards , so they know who to target
another reason if you do not want to show  your online presence , for example you told your wife/friends/boss you went to lover/drink/work and you are gambling instead
so if they see your name pop up , it kinda blows your cover  
and the only reason to not introduce anonymity is to satisfy someone's curiosity or prove something to unbelievers?

You nailed it, veleten. Most of us, especially who gamble, don't want to disclose our identities, includes names. As far as I know of, most of casinos don't ask for KYCs (there are some rare situations when they will do that) and there are abundant casinos, both old and young, both trusted and untrusted but the fact is if gamblers have to choose between nearly same qualitied casinos (with same games they have interests in) I believe they will do choose one doesn't ask for KYCs or doesn't publicly disclose their names.

[leea-1334]

You nailed it, veleten. Most of us, especially who gamble, don't want to disclose our identities, includes names. As far as I know of, most of casinos don't ask for KYCs (there are some rare situations when they will do that) and there are abundant casinos, both old and young, both trusted and untrusted but the fact is if gamblers have to choose between nearly same qualitied casinos (with same games they have interests in) I believe they will do choose one doesn't ask for KYCs or doesn't publicly disclose their names.

Almost all the casinos I have been to do ask for identity, to make sure you are old enough, and in the case of the ones in my place, to make sure you are allowed to go in. They do not keep the info unless you sign up for membership.

Most people also do not mind KYC,,, in my opinion,,, they are only afraid that people will do things with their data. If I can trust the info is not used or kept,,, I do not mind at all. But IF there is NO need for KYC, and people ask for it? Then I also have a problem. I will always choose somewhere where they do not ask first.

[WolfBet]

Today's results are here

[MonsterV]

You nailed it, veleten. Most of us, especially who gamble, don't want to disclose our identities, includes names. As far as I know of, most of casinos don't ask for KYCs (there are some rare situations when they will do that) and there are abundant casinos, both old and young, both trusted and untrusted but the fact is if gamblers have to choose between nearly same qualitied casinos (with same games they have interests in) I believe they will do choose one doesn't ask for KYCs or doesn't publicly disclose their names.

Most people also do not mind KYC,,, in my opinion,,, they are only afraid that people will do things with their data. If I can trust the info is not used or kept,,, I do not mind at all. But IF there is NO need for KYC, and people ask for it? Then I also have a problem. I will always choose somewhere where they do not ask first.

There's no way info or data isn't stored at all, surely they save it somewhere. And I have never trusted a site that does not have clear legal rules, let alone to ask KYC to its users.

There are always many better site choices and do not require kyc to users, I will also stay away from sites like that. Maybe the problem that will become homework now is how to verify their age without having to ask kyc, surely there will be an amazing solution in the future.

[deisik]

Most people also do not mind KYC,,, in my opinion,,, they are only afraid that people will do things with their data

Isn't this sentence composed of mutually contradicting statements?

To me, if you are afraid that someone will be using your personal data (identity, etc) for their obscure, probably nefarious purposes (which is a reasonable and totally justified assumption in the Internet), you can't "don't mind KYC". The point is, you can be damn sure someone will in fact be eventually using the details you provide about yourself in the ways you may not quite like, so you can't possibly be pro-KYC in places like online casinos, exchanges, or in any other place where they ask you to provide personal data (no offense intended to WB or any other decent casino out there)

[mitchr4]

Isn't it one of the main features of crypto market? That people want to be anonymous and not share everything about their lifes to others? I understand these guys from leaderboards unreservedly. It's their choice.

That's right, that's why when creating an account don't get that detailed filling in your personal data. Simply choose a pseudonym or a random username to be more anonymous. But there are several reasons they hide their user names, such as avoiding people who want to try to log in using your account name and also avoid the beggars there.

[fullhdpixel]

you would not want your name to be displayed for many reasons
constant friend requests and begging personal messages I'm getting whenever I do not hide my name is one
there are so many people who think that they can get money be inundating others and the only way for them to be able to do that is to check high rollers or the leaderboards , so they know who to target
another reason if you do not want to show  your online presence , for example you told your wife/friends/boss you went to lover/drink/work and you are gambling instead
so if they see your name pop up , it kinda blows your cover  
and the only reason to not introduce anonymity is to satisfy someone's curiosity or prove something to unbelievers?

That is why many people are here saying "pick a random username", who says you should have to be forced to show your real name or something, hell you don't even have to pick a username that you use anywhere else neither, for example veleten is veleten both here and in the website, you don't have to do that, you can pick a totally unique or at least a name that you haven't used anywhere before.

The website offers you millions of possibilities to hide who you really are and who you could be on the website. If you insist on hiding it even after all those possibilities that means maybe you should not be joining the contests? That is not a forced thing because you could not hide your name and join as well but if you want to hide I would vote for you to not be eligible for contest.

[WolfBet]

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[redsun114]

Most people also do not mind KYC,,, in my opinion,,, they are only afraid that people will do things with their data

Isn't this sentence composed of mutually contradicting statements?

To me, if you are afraid that someone will be using your personal data (identity, etc) for their obscure, probably nefarious purposes (which is a reasonable and totally justified assumption in the Internet), you can't "don't mind KYC". The point is, you can be damn sure someone will in fact be eventually using the details you provide about yourself in the ways you may not quite like, so you can't possibly be pro-KYC in places like online casinos, exchanges, or in any other place where they ask you to provide personal data (no offense intended to WB or any other decent casino out there)

I think it depends on what you do for the KYC as well, we are talking about casinos right now I know that but for example on exchanges there are KYC because at the end they are legally bounded to governments that they are based on and that is why I feel like exchanges do not have any choice but to do KYC and that is not the same for the casinos.

Now, casinos are not really "legal" like the other ones, it is still legal but in a shadier grey way where they usually just have licenses in at weird countries like curacao or whatever and that is the "legal" way they are so they don't have to ask KYC to customers, yet if they ever want to be a more legit decent place, they could do places like from Las Vegas or Macau or Malta and I would totally agree to giving them my KYC if they are based on those places.

[deisik]

Most people also do not mind KYC,,, in my opinion,,, they are only afraid that people will do things with their data

Isn't this sentence composed of mutually contradicting statements?

To me, if you are afraid that someone will be using your personal data (identity, etc) for their obscure, probably nefarious purposes (which is a reasonable and totally justified assumption in the Internet), you can't "don't mind KYC". The point is, you can be damn sure someone will in fact be eventually using the details you provide about yourself in the ways you may not quite like, so you can't possibly be pro-KYC in places like online casinos, exchanges, or in any other place where they ask you to provide personal data (no offense intended to WB or any other decent casino out there)

I think it depends on what you do for the KYC as well, we are talking about casinos right now I know that but for example on exchanges there are KYC because at the end they are legally bounded to governments that they are based on and that is why I feel like exchanges do not have any choice but to do KYC and that is not the same for the casinos

But that's not what I mean

Let's admit it, casinos or otherwise, people don't like KYC policies and having to submit their personal information. Just the fact that some exchanges are legally bound to demand from you your identity doesn't mean either that this information won't leak into the net and be used against you. It is a pretty common occurrence that personal details get stolen (or declared stolen while actually sold to interested parties), so no amount of government regulation is going to prevent or stop this

Now, casinos are not really "legal" like the other ones, it is still legal but in a shadier grey way where they usually just have licenses in at weird countries like curacao or whatever and that is the "legal" way they are so they don't have to ask KYC to customers, yet if they ever want to be a more legit decent place, they could do places like from Las Vegas or Macau or Malta and I would totally agree to giving them my KYC if they are based on those places

Personally, I don't smell a lot of difference between Macau and Curacao. Is there any? Just asking

[veleten]

Most people also do not mind KYC,,, in my opinion,,, they are only afraid that people will do things with their data

Isn't this sentence composed of mutually contradicting statements?

To me, if you are afraid that someone will be using your personal data (identity, etc) for their obscure, probably nefarious purposes (which is a reasonable and totally justified assumption in the Internet), you can't "don't mind KYC". The point is, you can be damn sure someone will in fact be eventually using the details you provide about yourself in the ways you may not quite like, so you can't possibly be pro-KYC in places like online casinos, exchanges, or in any other place where they ask you to provide personal data (no offense intended to WB or any other decent casino out there)

I think it depends on what you do for the KYC as well, we are talking about casinos right now I know that but for example on exchanges there are KYC because at the end they are legally bounded to governments that they are based on and that is why I feel like exchanges do not have any choice but to do KYC and that is not the same for the casinos.

Now, casinos are not really "legal" like the other ones, it is still legal but in a shadier grey way where they usually just have licenses in at weird countries like curacao or whatever and that is the "legal" way they are so they don't have to ask KYC to customers, yet if they ever want to be a more legit decent place, they could do places like from Las Vegas or Macau or Malta and I would totally agree to giving them my KYC if they are based on those places.

most people don't mind KYC? speak for yourself , I mind and almost all of my friends hate it with passion
it is not only to be afraid that your data will be used in nefarious purposes , it is simply defeating the main principle of crypto - anonymity
if I choose to show my face and reveal my personal info , I could choose dozens of other payment methods
in my opinion most of the casinos are using KYC as a predatory tool to not pay winnings
yes they are legally obliged to collect KYC , AML laws and such , but in reality all these Curacao , Macao etc. casinos are risking - their license revoked 

[tranthidung]

most people don't mind KYC? speak for yourself , I mind and almost all of my friends hate it with passion
it is not only to be afraid that your data will be used in nefarious purposes , it is simply defeating the main principle of crypto - anonymity
if I choose to show my face and reveal my personal info , I could choose dozens of other payment methods
in my opinion most of the casinos are using KYC as a predatory tool to not pay winnings
yes they are legally obliged to collect KYC , AML laws and such , but in reality all these Curacao , Macao etc. casinos are risking - their license revoked 

When one user uses one platform that requires KYC, some scenario will pop up in that user's mind.
- If that user uses documentation of others (relatives such as wife/husband, parents) to do KYC and those relatives don't use crypto exchanges, casinos; sure that user won't care about KYC. It's not yours and the risks for their relatives (just in crypto area) is low too.
- If that user decides to use own documentations to verify KYC; I am sure he/she will care about identities and correspondent potential dangerous risks. I hesitate to join any platform requires KYC and try to avoid such platforms as much as possible. But I know the fact that in the future (maybe near), more regulations will be implemented and KYC will be (somewhat) unavoidable.

[shoreno]

you would not want your name to be displayed for many reasons
constant friend requests and begging personal messages I'm getting whenever I do not hide my name is one
there are so many people who think that they can get money be inundating others and the only way for them to be able to do that is to check high rollers or the leaderboards , so they know who to target
another reason if you do not want to show  your online presence , for example you told your wife/friends/boss you went to lover/drink/work and you are gambling instead
so if they see your name pop up , it kinda blows your cover  
and the only reason to not introduce anonymity is to satisfy someone's curiosity or prove something to unbelievers?

That is why many people are here saying "pick a random username", who says you should have to be forced to show your real name or something, hell you don't even have to pick a username that you use anywhere else neither, for example veleten is veleten both here and in the website, you don't have to do that, you can pick a totally unique or at least a name that you haven't used anywhere before.

The website offers you millions of possibilities to hide who you really are and who you could be on the website. If you insist on hiding it even after all those possibilities that means maybe you should not be joining the contests? That is not a forced thing because you could not hide your name and join as well but if you want to hide I would vote for you to not be eligible for contest.

i see hidden users that are still eligible for joining the contest such as waggering contest  . there is no problem with that to not show your name and the reasons have been already stated above by veleten on why some gamblers hide thier names when they play  . i dont like to pick random usernames whenever i signed up for a gambling site because im not lazy to provide my own details  . i dont also hide my profile when i play because i can still ignore those annoying gamblers if they will start bugging me  .

[joksim299]

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I could be repeating myself , but this is how the anonymity working - you hide your username and it is not displayed wagering contest or not
you will find the same on every single gambling site , look at Stakes races aka wagering contest
there are barely 3-4 people in the top ten open each time , sometimes one or two
but I understand your doubts , the site is new and people tend to think , hey they are just paying money to themselves in these contests
you can't really check if its a real person or not , but I am sure there is no foul play going on , it would not be worth it in the long run

That sound like the best type of advice I have ever seen regarding the hidden names. If they want to stay hidden that means they should not be in the competition neither, they could try to participate but they will not win anything at all. Only the people with no hidden names should participate, that way we would at least get who wins what and at the same time hidden players will stay hidden if they want it so much.

However, after months of discussing the same thing, it is obvious that people hate to see these "hidden" names all the time but the website doesn't care about what you think, you know why? Because you and me talk here yet the "hidden" ones go play and make them money so they of course care about the people who make them money instead of people who talk for free.

I understand your point , but look at it from a whale's perspective - you would not want your name to be displayed for many reasons
constant friend requests and begging personal messages I'm getting whenever I do not hide my name is one
there are so many people who think that they can get money be inundating others and the only way for them to be able to do that is to check high rollers or the leaderboards , so they know who to target
another reason if you do not want to show  your online presence , for example you told your wife/friends/boss you went to lover/drink/work and you are gambling instead
so if they see your name pop up , it kinda blows your cover  
and the only reason to not introduce anonymity is to satisfy someone's curiosity or prove something to unbelievers?

They should allow us to at least view wagered stats of user with privacy enabled when we do not know their names.
Bitsler is really popular and I saw only once Anonymous player in the contest even if there are players that wager alone more that all 30 on Wolf

[WolfBet]

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Psst! keep an eye on the Games and Rounds section tomorrow!

[Bitinity]

The discussion about hidden username on the contest will have no ends imho because we have our own perspective and opinion about it and it seems there will be no win win solution for it because there are two different sides. First one is those who supports anonymity and second one is those who doubt that those hidden usernames are real players. Lets just stop it as it will have no ends, lets just appreciate each others.

[SquallLeonhart]

most people don't mind KYC? speak for yourself , I mind and almost all of my friends hate it with passion
it is not only to be afraid that your data will be used in nefarious purposes , it is simply defeating the main principle of crypto - anonymity
if I choose to show my face and reveal my personal info , I could choose dozens of other payment methods
in my opinion most of the casinos are using KYC as a predatory tool to not pay winnings
yes they are legally obliged to collect KYC , AML laws and such , but in reality all these Curacao , Macao etc. casinos are risking - their license revoked 

When one user uses one platform that requires KYC, some scenario will pop up in that user's mind.
- If that user uses documentation of others (relatives such as wife/husband, parents) to do KYC and those relatives don't use crypto exchanges, casinos; sure that user won't care about KYC. It's not yours and the risks for their relatives (just in crypto area) is low too.
- If that user decides to use own documentations to verify KYC; I am sure he/she will care about identities and correspondent potential dangerous risks. I hesitate to join any platform requires KYC and try to avoid such platforms as much as possible. But I know the fact that in the future (maybe near), more regulations will be implemented and KYC will be (somewhat) unavoidable.

I think the contradiction or at least miscommunication rises from the question, "do you not want to give your KYC because you think the people you give it to will do bad things with it, or do you not want to give your KYC to keep your gambling a secret?".

I think @leea means that "most people don't mind KYC, they are just afraid people will do things with their data" in the sense that, "most people don't mind giving their KYC and known as a gambler, being known as a gambler is fine for them, it is the fear of people using it for bad stuff that keeps them from sharing it" which is totally different from people who just don't give it because they don't want to be known as gamblers. Those are two very different reasons for not sharing your data with someone online.