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July 15, 2020, 05:41:11 AM |
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Serjent is talking some major sense right now.
The discipline, bankroll and craftyness required to make a longer term (not indefinite) strategy work are only shared by few dedicated gamblers, which is in the end entertainment because it's their passion.
But yes, this idea shouldn't be sold to / adopted by the masses because (as mentioned by others) most people aren't equipped for it, one way or another.
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July 15, 2020, 04:35:25 PM |
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^^When I meant gambling shouldn't be your income, I didn't mean the casino owners, casino staff and so forth, I mean the gamblers themselves, I mean you can't make that your living because you can't keep winning in gambling forever, there will be a time when you will lose and that is what I was trying to go for there. And none of the topics were ever about the casino owners or casino staff, we never even mentioned them, it was always about gamblers who think martingale could help them make a profit.
Obviously gambling should be entertainment and not an income, that is the whole point of my message, that is what I am trying to say here. I gamble because I think it is quite fun to do so, I do not gamble because I think I could make money, that is what every gambler should be aiming at.
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July 15, 2020, 04:52:24 PM |
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^^When I meant gambling shouldn't be your income, I didn't mean the casino owners, casino staff and so forth, I mean the gamblers themselves, I mean you can't make that your living because you can't keep winning in gambling forever, there will be a time when you will lose and that is what I was trying to go for there. And none of the topics were ever about the casino owners or casino staff, we never even mentioned them, it was always about gamblers who think martingale could help them make a profit.
Ok Obviously gambling should be entertainment and not an income, that is the whole point of my message, that is what I am trying to say here. I gamble because I think it is quite fun to do so, I do not gamble because I think I could make money, that is what every gambler should be aiming at.
Where is fun in gambling if we don't intend to win in this game of chance? We all wanted to win, wether we admit it or not. The only difference between gamblers is that, one is able to accept losses and the other chases it. Others tends to keep their cool (discipline) while other lost their senses and get hooked on the amusement or feelings that excitement gives. And the tone of your post states that you wanted to try to win while having fun and is able to accept losses without any regret
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July 15, 2020, 10:29:17 PM |
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Where is fun in gambling if we don't intend to win in this game of chance? We all wanted to win, wether we admit it or not. The only difference between gamblers is that, one is able to accept losses and the other chases it. Others tends to keep their cool (discipline) while other lost their senses and get hooked on the amusement or feelings that excitement gives. And the tone of your post states that you wanted to try to win while having fun and is able to accept losses without any regret No one gamble to loose their money even though we are doing it for fun we are having a limited budget for that until you have the resources to bust huge amounts. Chasing your losses is the biggest mistake in a game of chance and i did that in the beginning and you can further hurt your balance trying to regain your looses and nothing else will happen until you are extremely lucky.
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July 15, 2020, 11:35:50 PM |
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Where is fun in gambling if we don't intend to win in this game of chance? We all wanted to win, wether we admit it or not. The only difference between gamblers is that, one is able to accept losses and the other chases it. Others tends to keep their cool (discipline) while other lost their senses and get hooked on the amusement or feelings that excitement gives. And the tone of your post states that you wanted to try to win while having fun and is able to accept losses without any regret That's a factual statement. A gambler can do two things at the same time, to have fun and also to get some income as he gambles. The reason at the first place is to make while the entertainment comes next. If a gambler is into entertainment, he wouldn't spend that much as if it's ok to lose but for gamblers who intend to win and serious with it, the struggle comes in with those things you mentioned. The acceptance and the hardship to accept of defeat.
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I do not think that everyone plays to win money. I mean sure "winning" in the sense that being right about something is a great feeling and putting money on it makes it even better. When you say "I wager 100 bucks that Liverpool wins this game" you are basically doing something economical but the main premise is the fact that you trust your instinct and your knowledge so much that you are willing to lose 100 bucks on it if you are wrong.
That is the thing about gambling, you can't put all the gamblers on the same boat, there are so many types that I feel like there could be a book about how many types there are. Which is why we can't just say every gambler wants to profit, sure they want to win but not all aim for profit, winning and profiting are different things if you know what I mean.
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batang_bitcoin
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July 17, 2020, 02:15:12 AM |
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I do not think that everyone plays to win money. - That is the thing about gambling, you can't put all the gamblers on the same boat, there are so many types that I feel like there could be a book about how many types there are. Which is why we can't just say every gambler wants to profit, sure they want to win but not all aim for profit, winning and profiting are different things if you know what I mean.
This is understandable but like what they were thinking that it's the majority is for the win. And the attachment of winning in gambling is all about profit no matter what others might think about they only want to win. There's already the attached achievement and goal and that's to win money. Although as I've said, it's understandable that not everyone is for the goal to win money but just to have fun and everyone has a different perspective, be it opposite or not.
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July 17, 2020, 04:49:20 AM |
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I do not think that everyone plays to win money. I mean sure "winning" in the sense that being right about something is a great feeling and putting money on it makes it even better. When you say "I wager 100 bucks that Liverpool wins this game" you are basically doing something economical but the main premise is the fact that you trust your instinct and your knowledge so much that you are willing to lose 100 bucks on it if you are wrong.
I think the right statement would be that everyone may play but not all will win money. Your example show that the person knows that he will win because he trusts his instinct or believes that Liverpool to win the game . He is indirectly saying that he is wanting to win because who of all people wanted to see his knowledge and undestanding wrong? That is the thing about gambling, you can't put all the gamblers on the same boat, there are so many types that I feel like there could be a book about how many types there are.
I definitely agree! Which is why we can't just say every gambler wants to profit, sure they want to win but not all aim for profit, winning and profiting are different things if you know what I mean. I believe, aside from the owner and investors in gambling industry, there is no profit(this term does not fit in this category) for players only winnings. So you are right, gamblers does not aim for profit but winnings .
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Why is the 2FA implemented for claiming the 7 Days Streak? It's just annoying to get my cellphone for claiming max 9 DOGE. For withdrawing it's logic to ask a 2FA, but not for 7 days streak.
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July 17, 2020, 09:47:35 PM |
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^What I mean when saying that "not everyone aims for profit, they aim for winning, there is a difference". I meant that it could be something free, you could say that "Liverpool will win I will wager zero on it but I bet they will win" you are not putting any money forward but you are still betting on it by logic and if he wins you are right and you feel happy.
Now in gambling, there is money involved so we can't remove money from winning or losing, but the feeling of winning sometimes goes beyond the profit you are making with that bet. You could have made 10 bucks profit from a bet but the idea that you were right and you won is bigger importance to some people than the 10 bucks, they only put in money just so that they would have fun otherwise for free who would bet with them, what would be the point.
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July 17, 2020, 10:13:37 PM |
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Now in gambling, there is money involved so we can't remove money from winning or losing, but the feeling of winning sometimes goes beyond the profit you are making with that bet. You could have made 10 bucks profit from a bet but the idea that you were right and you won is bigger importance to some people than the 10 bucks, they only put in money just so that they would have fun otherwise for free who would bet with them, what would be the point.
If that's your opinion so be it, no one is wrong here with there personal perspective since you are the one who choose what you prefer but what the most important here is you are enjoying the game plus you are in the correct website since if you aim to gain profits by playing then you will also be worried if you can get your winnings so it must compatible. The most important thing in gambling is don't be came addicted to much on the game so that you will not badly lose.
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Why is the 2FA implemented for claiming the 7 Days Streak? It's just annoying to get my cellphone for claiming max 9 DOGE. For withdrawing it's logic to ask a 2FA, but not for 7 days streak. Claiming something or withdrawals, you should secure your account with 2FA. It is a vital security step for your account, not only on Wolf.bet but also on other casinos and any crypto exchanges. My personal choice, whenever I create my accounts on one platform, if possible I activate my 2FA security option. And always backup my 2FA secret code for later recoveries if something bad happens with my phone.
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Why is the 2FA implemented for claiming the 7 Days Streak? It's just annoying to get my cellphone for claiming max 9 DOGE. For withdrawing it's logic to ask a 2FA, but not for 7 days streak. Claiming something or withdrawals, you should secure your account with 2FA. It is a vital security step for your account, not only on Wolf.bet but also on other casinos and any crypto exchanges. My personal choice, whenever I create my accounts on one platform, if possible I activate my 2FA security option. And always backup my 2FA secret code for later recoveries if something bad happens with my phone. I also always activates the 2FA. For withdrawal is more then logic. For claiming some free money like a faucet it's unnecessary.
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July 18, 2020, 08:47:29 AM |
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Why is the 2FA implemented for claiming the 7 Days Streak? It's just annoying to get my cellphone for claiming max 9 DOGE. For withdrawing it's logic to ask a 2FA, but not for 7 days streak. Claiming something or withdrawals, you should secure your account with 2FA. It is a vital security step for your account, not only on Wolf.bet but also on other casinos and any crypto exchanges. My personal choice, whenever I create my accounts on one platform, if possible I activate my 2FA security option. And always backup my 2FA secret code for later recoveries if something bad happens with my phone. I also always activates the 2FA. For withdrawal is more then logic. For claiming some free money like a faucet it's unnecessary. yeah I also feel a little bit upset when a 7 Days Streak pop up and ask for 2fa, since my internet connection blacklist Wolfbet (I need use vpn and my connection become slow and take time before I finish claim it). I hope soon some IT guy from Wolfbet will disables the 2fa function for claim 7 Days Streak.
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July 18, 2020, 08:59:40 AM |
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yeah I also feel a little bit upset when a 7 Days Streak pop up and ask for 2fa, since my internet connection blacklist Wolfbet (I need use vpn and my connection become slow and take time before I finish claim it). I hope soon some IT guy from Wolfbet will disables the 2fa function for claim 7 Days Streak TBH, I don't know why they enabled 2FA for this faucet And I don't like it either. But my idea is that they force us to use 2FA so that we would enable 2FA straight away. You see, you can deposit funds without 2FA and you can play without it too (as far as I know). It is only when you withdraw your coins that 2FA is required. But since everyone seems to be using 7-Day Streak, it is a way to ensure that all gamblers have 2FA enabled. Hopefully, this explanation makes sense and will give you peace of mind
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yeah I also feel a little bit upset when a 7 Days Streak pop up and ask for 2fa, since my internet connection blacklist Wolfbet (I need use vpn and my connection become slow and take time before I finish claim it). I hope soon some IT guy from Wolfbet will disables the 2fa function for claim 7 Days Streak TBH, I don't know why they enabled 2FA for this faucet And I don't like it either. But my idea is that they force us to use 2FA so that we would enable 2FA straight away. You see, you can deposit funds without 2FA and you can play without it too (as far as I know). It is only when you withdraw your coins that 2FA is required. But since everyone seems to be using 7-Day Streak, it is a way to ensure that all gamblers have 2FA enabled. Hopefully, this explanation makes sense and will give you peace of mind Good explanation though many still doesn't want to do the 2FA since it's bit time eater for someone, But before I used not to like this feature but when hacking strikes I always make sure this thing set up on my account so maybe its good that all players will put it for safety and I'm sure wolfbet see this one that's why they implement the 2FA. But in anycase maybe its best that they explain it to their users so they could fully understand the new implementation.
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yeah I also feel a little bit upset when a 7 Days Streak pop up and ask for 2fa, since my internet connection blacklist Wolfbet (I need use vpn and my connection become slow and take time before I finish claim it). I hope soon some IT guy from Wolfbet will disables the 2fa function for claim 7 Days Streak TBH, I don't know why they enabled 2FA for this faucet And I don't like it either. But my idea is that they force us to use 2FA so that we would enable 2FA straight away. You see, you can deposit funds without 2FA and you can play without it too (as far as I know). It is only when you withdraw your coins that 2FA is required. But since everyone seems to be using 7-Day Streak, it is a way to ensure that all gamblers have 2FA enabled. Hopefully, this explanation makes sense and will give you peace of mind Good explanation though many still doesn't want to do the 2FA since it's bit time eater for someone, But before I used not to like this feature but when hacking strikes I always make sure this thing set up on my account so maybe its good that all players will put it for safety and I'm sure wolfbet see this one that's why they implement the 2FA. But in anycase maybe its best that they explain it to their users so they could fully understand the new implementation. 2FA is something that should be forced anyway because it is your own security. Basically they are forcing you to be careful, that is not a bad way to force it, some people are not into that type of stuff saying it is their own freedom to get hacked if they are not careful as long as nobody forces them but that is just American way of thinking, normally they should be forcing you to be careful because the account that gets hacked is your account but it is your account on wolf.bet and one account being hacked into is something dangerous for them as well. In the end 2FA is not a big deal, everyone uses it nowadays, if you have crypto, you must have faced with a million places where you are forced to use 2FA in order to protect your account, wolf.bet is not the first and will not be the last neither.
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batang_bitcoin
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July 18, 2020, 05:37:01 PM |
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Good explanation though many still doesn't want to do the 2FA since it's bit time eater for someone, But before I used not to like this feature but when hacking strikes I always make sure this thing set up on my account so maybe its good that all players will put it for safety and I'm sure wolfbet see this one that's why they implement the 2FA. But in anycase maybe its best that they explain it to their users so they could fully understand the new implementation.
Inputting a couple of numbers for the 2FA or confirming an email which is also a type of 2FA isn't time-consuming for me. People that think it's a time-consuming thing, they have to rethink. It conducts to give additional security and if those times come, the one that you have mentioned such as hacks, you are safe. Well, they have a say with it. It's for the faucet which they think is inappropriate but, there's no problem if it's during the withdrawal.
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carlfebz2
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July 18, 2020, 10:57:40 PM |
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Good explanation though many still doesn't want to do the 2FA since it's bit time eater for someone, But before I used not to like this feature but when hacking strikes I always make sure this thing set up on my account so maybe its good that all players will put it for safety and I'm sure wolfbet see this one that's why they implement the 2FA. But in anycase maybe its best that they explain it to their users so they could fully understand the new implementation.
Inputting a couple of numbers for the 2FA or confirming an email which is also a type of 2FA isn't time-consuming for me. People that think it's a time-consuming thing, they have to rethink. It conducts to give additional security and if those times come, the one that you have mentioned such as hacks, you are safe. Well, they have a say with it. It's for the faucet which they think is inappropriate but, there's no problem if it's during the withdrawal. I have same perception too on why they do put up 2fa with a faucet which i do see it not to be that important unless if its on withdrawal side.For abuse reason or any other thing then i dont really get the point but well its their own system and implementations yet setting 2fa isnt really that time consuming after all and dealing with it wont really cost an arm and leg.
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July 19, 2020, 01:10:18 AM |
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Good explanation though many still doesn't want to do the 2FA since it's bit time eater for someone, But before I used not to like this feature but when hacking strikes I always make sure this thing set up on my account so maybe its good that all players will put it for safety and I'm sure wolfbet see this one that's why they implement the 2FA. But in anycase maybe its best that they explain it to their users so they could fully understand the new implementation.
Inputting a couple of numbers for the 2FA or confirming an email which is also a type of 2FA isn't time-consuming for me. People that think it's a time-consuming thing, they have to rethink. It conducts to give additional security and if those times come, the one that you have mentioned such as hacks, you are safe. Indeed, they can always skip the 7 day streak promo if they think that it is taking their time too much. No one is forcing them to claim it . Well, they have a say with it. It's for the faucet which they think is inappropriate but, there's no problem if it's during the withdrawal.
It is a clever method of Wolf.bet to ensure that every account had its 2fa enabled. Though I agree it is kinda annoying to those who want an instant free staff but I say, it is not a bad move by wolf.bet at all.
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