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Indeed, all things considered and equal, you wouldn't spend most of your time on something which pays less (that I certainly agree with). But it still does make sense to put at least some effort into something which pays less even if your total income will suffer. The point is, it is never "all things considered and equal" in real life, and you don't know how it is going to play out in the long run. It may turn out that spending (wasting in your speak) some time and effort on a seemingly less profitable activity will pay back manifold in due course. Especially when they finally ban you from WinDice
That actually makes sense, what is scary is we have talked about how we could abuse wolf.bet and that would be profitable in the past page or so . I am sorry to wolf.bet personally for such a topic, I just saw it and jumped into it and wanted to share my opinion but obviously it is not a safe topic and wouldn't want to encourage anyone To tell the truth, I was speaking generally WinDice just turned up conveniently as an illustrative example to show that more general idea. It actually has a lot of application well beyond gambling. For example, two countries which trade with each other can produce two products. From a naive point of view, it may seem that each country should only produce one product, i.e. the one with lower cost of production, while buy the other from the second country. In real life, however, it may be economically practical to produce both products in either country, although in different proportions, of course, and buy the rest
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^Yeah when you think about it, there are so many things that combine together when you are doing one that the second one is easier. If you are not doing any and you want to start doing just one of them, it will take some time and effort, when you want to add a second one to the first one it will have a lot of common stuff that would help it become a lot easier on the second try which is why I agreed that it could be potentially easier.
I do not really know much about real hackers and scammers, I know a bit but not the detailed version, who knows maybe they write one program that just does all the things and create the accounts and simply after finishing the software they just go do another one while the software does everything so they do not spend any more time on it.
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^Yeah when you think about it, there are so many things that combine together when you are doing one that the second one is easier. If you are not doing any and you want to start doing just one of them, it will take some time and effort, when you want to add a second one to the first one it will have a lot of common stuff that would help it become a lot easier on the second try which is why I agreed that it could be potentially easier The task is maximizing your profits in a smart way But it is rarely a simple, straightforward approach in real life. Oftentimes, you can squeeze more if you thoroughly track and take into consideration all dependencies between various factors that are essential components in the profit-making machinery. It is not hitting on just one parameter, however important on its own, but looking for optimal combination of all of them instead. In practice, it is an art rather than a science
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I don't know if I was just unlucky or something happened to my bets but I lost 19 bets in a row on x2 payout. I know it is possible to receive more than 19 but this happens once in many bets. I don't want to accuse Wolf.bet of "unclean" things, I was probably just unlucky.
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I don't know if I was just unlucky or something happened to my bets but I lost 19 bets in a row on x2 payout. I know it is possible to receive more than 19 but this happens once in many bets. I don't want to accuse Wolf.bet of "unclean" things, I was probably just unlucky.
depends how many bets you did. I had 23 red on x2. In long term can be even 30 red. There is a stat service you can see possible red streaks https://survivalbet.online/superstats/
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I don't know if I was just unlucky or something happened to my bets but I lost 19 bets in a row on x2 payout. I know it is possible to receive more than 19 but this happens once in many bets. I don't want to accuse Wolf.bet of "unclean" things, I was probably just unlucky.
Wolfbet uses provably fair system, so you can verify your bets. Dont think something is bad just because you get lossing streak but better to verify your bets first. The chance of 19x lossing streak on 2x payout is indeed small but it is possible, anyone may get longer lossing streak. You were just in a bad luck obviously, sorry to hear that.
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I don't know if I was just unlucky or something happened to my bets but I lost 19 bets in a row on x2 payout. I know it is possible to receive more than 19 but this happens once in many bets. I don't want to accuse Wolf.bet of "unclean" things, I was probably just unlucky.
You can't really accuse wolfbet for your unlucky days since if you lose that streak then might you need to stop by now and play on the next day. Also if you look at the threads her you can see that wolfbet does a good job in terms of fairness so it's not good to accuse anyone since you are the one who's handling your bet and no one intervene or any disturbance came to them.
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I don't know if I was just unlucky or something happened to my bets but I lost 19 bets in a row on x2 payout. I know it is possible to receive more than 19 but this happens once in many bets. I don't want to accuse Wolf.bet of "unclean" things, I was probably just unlucky.
The best thing here is that you played on wolfbet where you can verify your bets and be sure that there is no cheating on the part of the wolfbet. You had the most unlucky time because losing straight 19 bets in a row is rare. By the way were you using martingale strategy ?
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I don't know if I was just unlucky or something happened to my bets but I lost 19 bets in a row on x2 payout. I know it is possible to receive more than 19 but this happens once in many bets. I don't want to accuse Wolf.bet of "unclean" things, I was probably just unlucky.
Wolfbet uses provably fair system, so you can verify your bets. Dont think something is bad just because you get lossing streak but better to verify your bets first. The chance of 19x lossing streak on 2x payout is indeed small but it is possible, anyone may get longer lossing streak. You were just in a bad luck obviously, sorry to hear that In fact, a losing streak of 19 rolls is nothing out of the ordinary Whether it is rare or not, depends on how many bets you make per unit of time. If you are using autobet with around 4-5 rolls a second, you should have been expecting 20 losses in a row on x2 payout in reasonable time. To give you a proper perspective, on a 40% win chance I saw a few losing streaks of 30+ rolls, and it happened within a couple months. Ironically, when I was running some tests, I encountered a losing streak of 31 rolls on 37% in just a few hours (though I was not using martingale, just betting the bare minimum over and over again)
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I don't know if I was just unlucky or something happened to my bets but I lost 19 bets in a row on x2 payout. I know it is possible to receive more than 19 but this happens once in many bets. I don't want to accuse Wolf.bet of "unclean" things, I was probably just unlucky.
This is just normal, I experience way more losing streak than 19 in a row on an x2 payout from other sites. It always happens especially when we are using the auto roll features. If you have some doubt, you can always review and verify the hashes created by your bets to check if it is really provably fair.
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I don't know if I was just unlucky or something happened to my bets but I lost 19 bets in a row on x2 payout. I know it is possible to receive more than 19 but this happens once in many bets. I don't want to accuse Wolf.bet of "unclean" things, I was probably just unlucky.
19 reds isn't even that unlucky. I don't know how much you rolled in your session? Probably you also got a big streak of greens. But you bust on 19 reds and you don't mention 19 greens in a row.
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August 03, 2020, 09:06:33 PM |
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I don't know if I was just unlucky or something happened to my bets but I lost 19 bets in a row on x2 payout. I know it is possible to receive more than 19 but this happens once in many bets. I don't want to accuse Wolf.bet of "unclean" things, I was probably just unlucky.
Probably you also got a big streak of greens. But you bust on 19 reds and you don't mention 19 greens in a row. ^ Definitely right, that is impossible if you don't even have win streaks and not all the times you will see a red line in your streak. If you have a doubt, you can properly check the provably fair system provided by the wolfbet team. You can verify every generated hashed because every user has allowed on it to check the legitimacy of the site and to prove that Wolbet is not manipulated. Nevertheless, kindly read this. https://wolf.bet/provably-fair?tab=overview
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August 04, 2020, 11:23:52 AM |
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Yo are holding a valid license. You should take advantage of this better, I think. Why not expanding the site with real casino games and sportsbook?
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Wolf.bet has been silent for the past few days, I hope everyone is okay the last message from their wolf.bet account was on 24th of June, it is August already and we haven't heard from them over 10 days. I know in crypto world and all "haven't heard from the team" usually sounds like scam or shady but I know them and they are great and have always been great, that is not what I am trying to mean here, what I mean is, are they okay due to pandemic and all, like health related stuff. Because let's be honest strangers on internet we have seen could get pandemic at any moment and we may never hear from them again, that is a scary thought.
I hope that everyone in the team is alright and they didn't get anything and have been looking out for themselves, and we can get to hear from them soon again.
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I took a look at the site. Just don't understand so much of the games. Maybe I still need to gain some experience.
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I took a look at the site. Just don't understand so much of the games. Maybe I still need to gain some experience. Which games are you talking about? The last time I checked, which was right now, they only had two games, and those are dice and HiLo. I can't actually imagine how anyone wouldn't be able to understand dice. Regarding HiLo, I don't understand it either, so it is definitely not a big deal (read, you are not alone in your blissful ignorance)
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Wolf.bet has been silent for the past few days, I hope everyone is okay the last message from their wolf.bet account was on 24th of June, it is August already and we haven't heard from them over 10 days. I know in crypto world and all "haven't heard from the team" usually sounds like scam or shady but I know them and they are great and have always been great, that is not what I am trying to mean here, what I mean is, are they okay due to pandemic and all, like health related stuff. Because let's be honest strangers on internet we have seen could get pandemic at any moment and we may never hear from them again, that is a scary thought.
I hope that everyone in the team is alright and they didn't get anything and have been looking out for themselves, and we can get to hear from them soon again.
Well they still pay all the withdraws so nothing to worry about. I think they don't use the admin account that much. They also got a signature campaign running and they are also still paying that. So nothing to worry about. It would be another story if users came here complaining.
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I took a look at the site. Just don't understand so much of the games. Maybe I still need to gain some experience. Which games are you talking about? The last time I checked, which was right now, they only had two games, and those are dice and HiLo. I can't actually imagine how anyone wouldn't be able to understand dice. Regarding HiLo, I don't understand it either, so it is definitely not a big deal (read, you are not alone in your blissful ignorance) I think many understand about the dice because it's easy in the game it's just a lucky bet to be able to win Grin and if that person doesn't understand the dice it might be too early to be in gambling. Grin Shocked In the last 2 months I learned about playing Hilo from any source including on YouTube to practice it and still my brain does not get there maybe I need to learn a lot more with the Hilo game? I want to try but really don't understand.
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Wolf.bet has been silent for the past few days, I hope everyone is okay the last message from their wolf.bet account was on 24th of June, it is August already and we haven't heard from them over 10 days. I know in crypto world and all "haven't heard from the team" usually sounds like scam or shady but I know them and they are great and have always been great, that is not what I am trying to mean here, what I mean is, are they okay due to pandemic and all, like health related stuff. Because let's be honest strangers on internet we have seen could get pandemic at any moment and we may never hear from them again, that is a scary thought.
I hope that everyone in the team is alright and they didn't get anything and have been looking out for themselves, and we can get to hear from them soon again.
Well they still pay all the withdraws so nothing to worry about. I think they don't use the admin account that much. They also got a signature campaign running and they are also still paying that. So nothing to worry about. It would be another story if users came here complaining. True, even if wolf.bet official bitcointalk account is rare to post something here but the account is still active. Last online was yesterday (less than 24 hours). It means that he is still here and probably they have nothing to post/update in this thread. There is also no complains here in this thread, so everything should be fine.
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August 05, 2020, 05:32:50 AM |
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I don't know if I was just unlucky or something happened to my bets but I lost 19 bets in a row on x2 payout. I know it is possible to receive more than 19 but this happens once in many bets. I don't want to accuse Wolf.bet of "unclean" things, I was probably just unlucky.
The best thing here is that you played on wolfbet where you can verify your bets and be sure that there is no cheating on the part of the wolfbet. You had the most unlucky time because losing straight 19 bets in a row is rare. By the way were you using martingale strategy ? When you bet on martingale, it is normal that you may not realize 19 times in a row win as well. If you bet on 10 satoshi per bet, you are going to win 190 satoshi when you go 19 wins in a row, not really a ton of money right? But, when you lose 19 times in a row and start at 10 satoshi and double it every time you gamble you are going to end up at 5,242,880 satoshi or better yet 0.52420880 bitcoins, that is over half a bitcoin at the last bet and of course a ton more until you reach there, almost one bitcoin lost, and you only try to win 10 satoshi when you recover it all. So, it is understandable that you may not realize 190 satoshi won thanks to 19 wins in a row, but it is also easy to calculate 1 bitcoin loss when you go 19 losses in a row.
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