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November 02, 2020, 05:18:40 AM |
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They never running bug bounty anyway, that was just a little bug for "max bet" button isn't shown on mobile mode. Nothing to be rewarded for this i think, since it's only small bug.
I agree because this is more of a visual bug rather than a technical bug and yeah some might give a bounty because the ambler find it but not something that deserves a bounty in my opinion but would be glad if they decide to reward him. --snip
I don't understand what violent he said if he expressed his opinion about a particular subject and this is a public forum so make a habit of listening to others or you don't survive for long. I mean if you cannot even bear others then you should not be commenting your own opinion on the forum. Whether they give the bounty or not that doesn't matter but everyone has their right to make comments about a particular subject on a public forum. I saw your last post and you had problems with primedice and stake too? Mate clam down! he expressed his opinion and i expressed mine and you are having issues with mine? as regards primedice , i should not say what i noticed again? do you guys even read before you type? or ready after you type before clicking post? pd doesnt show you your stats and there are several people complaining about it. i support them because it affects me and u say i shouldnt? why are u even bringing another site issue into a wolfbet thread? u need to chill.
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I just wanted to mean, they have an AMAZING name, wolf.bet is a unique and cool looking name with absolutely no connection to any game at all, many places have names like somethingdice.com thisisdice.com and stuff like that where it has dice in it and they still add other games anyway, wolf.bet is a name that could have ALL casino games you can imagine from simplest dice to most complex games For the inquiring minds, SatoshiDice was the first cryptocurrency online casino ever However, I wouldn't call dice simple from a developer's point of view. I don't mean just the technical side obviously, i.e. implementing rolls and counting odds, but rather the bankroll management of the game, given its typically low house edge. The bankroll management seems to be the most important thing once the casino kicks off for real. And it looks like Wolf.bet handles their bankroll quite good as otherwise they wouldn't have lasted that long, even though you can't harness their most distinguishing feature, which is flashbet, to secure a steady cash flow into your account with an actually working martingale strategy (I already explained why) All I am saying is, when you are a casino it takes a while to adjust everything, there are whales who lose big but there are ones who win big, it is not a steady stream of income, but when you have that base, they could slowly work over a decade to add games, there is no rush That's the whole point about the proper bankroll management
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As they already see the issue for sure they will take an action with that and provably they are still in the process of fixing things so we shouldn't rush them up since I believe it's a big work to see if there's other bugs exist. And I agree if bug bounty will be held for sure it will be a big help since it could help improve more the site. Bug bounty hunting is not like this ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) It should be a "bug" and actually affect a lot of things, sure you can get something in return for this but it shouldn't be too much, like maybe 20 bucks for something this simple. The idea of a bug bounty where casinos pay as much as 1 bitcoin for people who can find it would be the bugs that could affect the casino very badly, like maybe a loophole that allows you to see the results beforehand type of big deal, not something like "max bet doesn't show on mobile" that is just a small design thing and doesn't really change much in the casino part of the deal. I am not saying don't give anything, you could totally give him something but it is not like he figured out there was a way to get everyone's password or anything, it was just a design problem. Well it depends on the company about the reward system what they can offer and it's not 1 BTC mandatory bounty since anyone can decide on what amount they want to spend if they want to run a campaign like this. I think there is no need for a big reward in holding a bug bounty as long as the company intends to do this, I am sure Wolf.bet users will continue to help them find the bugs they find because in every gap they must be playing. But I am here to support what developers do if they are careful even to find a bug, all of which can be said to be perfect and very professional in handling this we need a technician who can really rely on it. Where is the statement where I say it needs a big reward on bug bounty contest? Did you read my post or just you didn't read it? I'm also sure wolfbet users will help the site since it's will give a good benefit to them to have a better game experience and also maybe it's best to stop about this discussion regarding on bug bounty things since I'm sure there are more relevant things needed to talk about with wolfbet.
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That's the whole point about the proper bankroll management
Are you talking about Casino fund management? For a second, I thought it was a player bankroll but then comes the sites game development so I get it as the Casino fund management you are talking about which I agree, it will take time since it needs planning and understanding on how they will integrate new games while not affecting their funds that much. We all know, once a site implements new games, they need to spend funds for the integration and implementation. They also need to acquire an agreement with the game provider and some needs license to be integrated thus another expense for the site. So it is actually not that easy to implement new games because of the procedures and funds needed to implement them.
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November 02, 2020, 03:39:20 PM |
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That's the whole point about the proper bankroll management
Are you talking about Casino fund management? "Bankroll management" seems to be the accepted term in these circles Indeed, it can relate to either a gambler's bankroll or a casino's, but in this case, I refer to the bankroll of the casino itself, which should be obvious from the context. Moreover, it is one of the most complex and important things that requires prior expertise in the field (read, book knowledge won't do) Otherwise, you ("the casino") risk losing your bankroll as there are enough big whales with deep pockets that can easily take you out. That's the reason why so many such efforts end up with nothing and have to close the shop (probably, pulling an exit scam at the end of it)
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As they already see the issue for sure they will take an action with that and provably they are still in the process of fixing things so we shouldn't rush them up since I believe it's a big work to see if there's other bugs exist. And I agree if bug bounty will be held for sure it will be a big help since it could help improve more the site. Bug bounty hunting is not like this ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) It should be a "bug" and actually affect a lot of things, sure you can get something in return for this but it shouldn't be too much, like maybe 20 bucks for something this simple. The idea of a bug bounty where casinos pay as much as 1 bitcoin for people who can find it would be the bugs that could affect the casino very badly, like maybe a loophole that allows you to see the results beforehand type of big deal, not something like "max bet doesn't show on mobile" that is just a small design thing and doesn't really change much in the casino part of the deal. I am not saying don't give anything, you could totally give him something but it is not like he figured out there was a way to get everyone's password or anything, it was just a design problem. Well it depends on the company about the reward system what they can offer and it's not 1 BTC mandatory bounty since anyone can decide on what amount they want to spend if they want to run a campaign like this. I think there is no need for a big reward in holding a bug bounty as long as the company intends to do this, I am sure Wolf.bet users will continue to help them find the bugs they find because in every gap they must be playing. Having an incentive always gets better out of people so if the goal is to clear out the bugs by holding a bug bounty then I think a reward type system might work much better than having no reward system at all. Users are nice but sometimes people are busy and won't have the time to get out of their way to find these things but once you introduce something to benefit them the situation changes. In any case, adding something for the players that come across these bugs gives a much better reflection on the community and casino, and helps in strengthening that provider-customer relationship.
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I have gambled a bit today but I have never checked the minimum withdrawal amount before until today, which I find a bit higher than should be. I didn't had too much money left to gamble for today so I just sent my 6-7 bucks into wolf.bet to have some fun, it was definitely a good amount of money and I gambled for a good long while, at the end I had about 12-13 bucks and I said to myself since I doubled my profit I should probably cash out and leave for a while before I restart. After that I realized the minimum to cash out is 0.04 and that is about a bit further away from what I had. So I had to gamble a bit more to cover the difference and obviously as is gambling tradition I lost during that period and now have none ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) . Since it was a tiny bit amount it is not a big deal, but I would have been happier if withdraw allowed me to take my money out without restrictions.
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I have gambled a bit today but I have never checked the minimum withdrawal amount before until today, which I find a bit higher than should be. I didn't had too much money left to gamble for today so I just sent my 6-7 bucks into wolf.bet to have some fun, it was definitely a good amount of money and I gambled for a good long while, at the end I had about 12-13 bucks and I said to myself since I doubled my profit I should probably cash out and leave for a while before I restart You didn't say what coin you've been gambling with If it is Bitcoin, then the reason for so high a minimum withdrawal amount may have to do with high network fees (just a hunch). The minimum withdrawal amount for doges is same as before, i.e. 2,000 doges (I just checked it out), which is way lower than 0.04 BTC in case you were playing with bitcoins
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November 03, 2020, 06:14:22 AM |
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I have gambled a bit today but I have never checked the minimum withdrawal amount before until today, which I find a bit higher than should be. I didn't had too much money left to gamble for today so I just sent my 6-7 bucks into wolf.bet to have some fun, it was definitely a good amount of money and I gambled for a good long while, at the end I had about 12-13 bucks and I said to myself since I doubled my profit I should probably cash out and leave for a while before I restart You didn't say what coin you've been gambling with If it is Bitcoin, then the reason for so high a minimum withdrawal amount may have to do with high network fees (just a hunch). The minimum withdrawal amount for doges is same as before, i.e. 2,000 doges (I just checked it out), which is way lower than 0.04 BTC in case you were playing with bitcoins He said that it's 0.04 and that's particularly for the minimum withdrawal amount for Ethereum. That can be seen on https://wolf.bet/faq
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November 03, 2020, 09:29:37 AM |
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I have gambled a bit today but I have never checked the minimum withdrawal amount before until today, which I find a bit higher than should be. I didn't had too much money left to gamble for today so I just sent my 6-7 bucks into wolf.bet to have some fun, it was definitely a good amount of money and I gambled for a good long while, at the end I had about 12-13 bucks and I said to myself since I doubled my profit I should probably cash out and leave for a while before I restart You didn't say what coin you've been gambling with If it is Bitcoin, then the reason for so high a minimum withdrawal amount may have to do with high network fees (just a hunch). The minimum withdrawal amount for doges is same as before, i.e. 2,000 doges (I just checked it out), which is way lower than 0.04 BTC in case you were playing with bitcoins He said that it's 0.04 and that's particularly for the minimum withdrawal amount for Ethereum. That can be seen on https://wolf.bet/faqThanks for doing this instead of me Anyway, given how high Ethereum network fees can be, raising the minimum withdrawal amount is not something you should be particularly surprised in. But there can be other reasons, of course. As an aside (not related to Wolf.bet), I had my ETH transaction not confirmed for two months (sic) until I had to cancel it by creating a self-transaction with the same nonce. I sent bitcoins with very low fees in the past, and all transactions were confirmed in the end, even though it had taken days. With Ethereum, however, it never occurred
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November 04, 2020, 10:04:55 PM |
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I have gambled a bit today but I have never checked the minimum withdrawal amount before until today, which I find a bit higher than should be. I didn't had too much money left to gamble for today so I just sent my 6-7 bucks into wolf.bet to have some fun, it was definitely a good amount of money and I gambled for a good long while, at the end I had about 12-13 bucks and I said to myself since I doubled my profit I should probably cash out and leave for a while before I restart You didn't say what coin you've been gambling with If it is Bitcoin, then the reason for so high a minimum withdrawal amount may have to do with high network fees (just a hunch). The minimum withdrawal amount for doges is same as before, i.e. 2,000 doges (I just checked it out), which is way lower than 0.04 BTC in case you were playing with bitcoins He said that it's 0.04 and that's particularly for the minimum withdrawal amount for Ethereum. That can be seen on https://wolf.bet/faqThanks for doing this instead of me Anyway, given how high Ethereum network fees can be, raising the minimum withdrawal amount is not something you should be particularly surprised in. But there can be other reasons, of course. As an aside (not related to Wolf.bet), I had my ETH transaction not confirmed for two months (sic) until I had to cancel it by creating a self-transaction with the same nonce. I sent bitcoins with very low fees in the past, and all transactions were confirmed in the end, even though it had taken days. With Ethereum, however, it never occurred NP. Transaction discussion was going to be off-topic in wolf.bet's thread but I only want to say that for two months it wasn't confirmed? wow, you had the patience to wait for that long.
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November 05, 2020, 07:42:35 PM |
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Anyway, given how high Ethereum network fees can be, raising the minimum withdrawal amount is not something you should be particularly surprised in. But there can be other reasons, of course. As an aside (not related to Wolf.bet), I had my ETH transaction not confirmed for two months (sic) until I had to cancel it by creating a self-transaction with the same nonce. I sent bitcoins with very low fees in the past, and all transactions were confirmed in the end, even though it had taken days. With Ethereum, however, it never occurred
NP. Transaction discussion was going to be off-topic in wolf.bet's thread but I only want to say that for two months it wasn't confirmed? wow, you had the patience to wait for that long Actually, this is not quite off-topic And I'm going to explain why. As far as I remember, you can't set the network fee manually with Wolf.bet. I have withdrawn only doges where the commission is kinda set in stone and universally accepted by all Dogecoin miners (which is 1 doge, just in case). However, it is different with Ethereum, and as my example clearly demonstrates, your Ether transaction can get stuck for ages. It simply won't be dropped (for the record, this is what I had been waiting for). Now imagine this thing happening when you try to withdraw from the casino. What would you do? Or rather, what would casino do as you obviously can't do anything in this case?
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November 05, 2020, 08:21:49 PM |
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Usability is a big issue in crypto, if real expansion into the wider population is wanted then it has to be as easy as possible to use with no small print type hitches to it. Cant have transactions held indefinitely and hopefully not even delayed substantially if possible, I think the Bitcoin devs did realise this was important and we've moved on from the logjam that happened in 2017.
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I have gambled a bit today but I have never checked the minimum withdrawal amount before until today, which I find a bit higher than should be. I didn't had too much money left to gamble for today so I just sent my 6-7 bucks into wolf.bet to have some fun, it was definitely a good amount of money and I gambled for a good long while, at the end I had about 12-13 bucks and I said to myself since I doubled my profit I should probably cash out and leave for a while before I restart You didn't say what coin you've been gambling with If it is Bitcoin, then the reason for so high a minimum withdrawal amount may have to do with high network fees (just a hunch). The minimum withdrawal amount for doges is same as before, i.e. 2,000 doges (I just checked it out), which is way lower than 0.04 BTC in case you were playing with bitcoins I have gambled with ETH and the minimum you can withdraw from ETH was about 15 bucks, while I went as high as around 12 bucks, I couldn't gamble that last 3 dollars and lost all the other 12 bucks instead ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) . I got in with like 6-7 so that was all I lost nothing big deal. I do not want to make it look like a complaint, like this is not really a big problem. Wolfbet simply says "if you do not have over 15 bucks, do not come here and gamble for nothing because we ain't giving it to you" and that is understandable, 15+ is not like a whale or anything it is quite cheap. Usually not so cheap in third world countries like where I come from but still cheap for many people. Hence I think this is not a deal, sure if they could drop it in half to something like 0.02 that would be swell but during a period where even withdrawal fee reaches to high levels, 0.04 is totally understandable.
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Wolfbet simply says "if you do not have over 15 bucks, do not come here and gamble for nothing because we ain't giving it to you" and that is understandable, 15+ is not like a whale or anything it is quite cheap. Usually not so cheap in third world countries like where I come from but still cheap for many people. Hence I think this is not a deal, sure if they could drop it in half to something like 0.02 that would be swell but during a period where even withdrawal fee reaches to high levels, 0.04 is totally understandable You could play with doges The minimum withdraw amount is 2,000 doges which is around 5 dollars. Honestly, I don't even understand why anyone would ever want to gamble with 15 dollars worth in ETH given that the fees could amount to half of this. Compare that to a Dogecoin network fee of just 1 doge. It kinda makes no sense if you ask me
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Wolfbet simply says "if you do not have over 15 bucks, do not come here and gamble for nothing because we ain't giving it to you" and that is understandable, 15+ is not like a whale or anything it is quite cheap. Usually not so cheap in third world countries like where I come from but still cheap for many people. Hence I think this is not a deal, sure if they could drop it in half to something like 0.02 that would be swell but during a period where even withdrawal fee reaches to high levels, 0.04 is totally understandable You could play with doges The minimum withdraw amount is 2,000 doges which is around 5 dollars. Honestly, I don't even understand why anyone would ever want to gamble with 15 dollars worth in ETH given that the fees could amount to half of this. Compare that to a Dogecoin network fee of just 1 doge. It kinda makes no sense if you ask me Sometimes not all player out there aim to get money and they just let those $15 worth of ETH burn just for fun. For sure people are aware about high fees these days since and I see so many post about they are not here to earn profit but to seek some platform to spend there boredom so provably the one you see is those people who play on some certain site or even here.
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You could play with doges
The minimum withdraw amount is 2,000 doges which is around 5 dollars. Honestly, I don't even understand why anyone would ever want to gamble with 15 dollars worth in ETH given that the fees could amount to half of this. Compare that to a Dogecoin network fee of just 1 doge. It kinda makes no sense if you ask me
Sometimes not all player out there aim to get money and they just let those $15 worth of ETH burn just for fun. For sure people are aware about high fees these days since and I see so many post about they are not here to earn profit but to seek some platform to spend there boredom so provably the one you see is those people who play on some certain site or even here. The pleasure is to enjoy some of the costs they need to give and they don't care about it, we know that with price hikes now the ETH and BTC withdrawal fees are getting stronger but some also switch to DOGE because with the minimum amount that has been given, it's free gamblers want to choose which one is fun or want money, for me of course I will switch to altcoins that are slightly lower than the top coins.
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November 06, 2020, 04:25:11 PM |
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Wolfbet simply says "if you do not have over 15 bucks, do not come here and gamble for nothing because we ain't giving it to you" and that is understandable, 15+ is not like a whale or anything it is quite cheap. Usually not so cheap in third world countries like where I come from but still cheap for many people. Hence I think this is not a deal, sure if they could drop it in half to something like 0.02 that would be swell but during a period where even withdrawal fee reaches to high levels, 0.04 is totally understandable You could play with doges The minimum withdraw amount is 2,000 doges which is around 5 dollars. Honestly, I don't even understand why anyone would ever want to gamble with 15 dollars worth in ETH given that the fees could amount to half of this. Compare that to a Dogecoin network fee of just 1 doge. It kinda makes no sense if you ask me True that, but often times players are too lazy to move their ETH or BTC to exchange and convert it to DOGE there (just like me lol). So they just sent their fund just to save some transaction fee and time and enjoy wolf.bet's game. Unless wolf.bet have a built in conversion (sorry if i am not updated on this one) where we can convert our BTC to Doge or other cryptocurrency and vice versa, but the problem is, there is not so many local exchangers that convert Doge to fiat since most of them only converts BTC and other more popular cryptocurrencies. So even if there is an internal exchange, player will still choose to withdraw in BTC or ETH if their purpose is to convert it to fiat after withdrawal.
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^I agree myself that 15 wasn't really that big of a deal. In fact it was just some airdrop that I received that day which to me didn't really worth anything, normally I do not even deposit 6-7 bucks because sending that would cost a lot to begin with, let alone anything else. Hence why I believe 15 wasn't a big deal but I just wanted to exchange that airdrop into ETH and then gamble with it, what else was I suppose to do with just 6 bucks? That is not even worth the time or even could even be turned to fiat, hence gambling with it was a feeling like "faucet" where I got free money to gamble with.
I came here to talk about the withdrawal rate because I found it interesting, didn't really bother me all that insanely much but considering it could be removed and just let people withdraw 1 satoshi above the fee is possible, I just wanted to share that. Otherwise 15+ for eth is understandable (and can yes doge if you want less).
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Transaction discussion was going to be off-topic in wolf.bet's thread but I only want to say that for two months it wasn't confirmed? wow, you had the patience to wait for that long.
I don't think transaction discussion is "that" much off-topic because people are here talking about both A) the fee for withdraw at wolf.bet B) minimum withdrawal limit I do agree that fee of withdrawal is something that is high everywhere, because eth fee's are insanely high these days and I can understand that, however that is only applied for the fee and if you want to allow people to pay their own fee that should be fine as well, after all if they want to wait they could wait, if they want fast they could do fast. But what I do not agree with is the minimum requirement, if the person wants to send 1 dollar back to himself and pay 99 cent fee, receive only 1 cent in return for all this, let them do that if they want to. It is not wolf.bet's decision to have a minimum requirement at all.
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