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November 16, 2020, 11:51:49 PM |
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That's great haven't visited it yet a little bit excited to test out that new animation on wolfbet. A change of topic are you in chance planning to add more games on your gambling site?
IIRC, they don't have plans yet to add any games soon. But we will be the first to know it because they will announce it first on this thread. Our dice game has been updated! New sounds & animations implemented, enjoy!
Thanks for the added features for the sounds and animations. Aside from having a good reputation between the user and gamblers, Wolfbet is still doing its best to improve its casino and making the experience to the gamblers as smooth as possible.
And they won't stop improving and updating details for the best service to their players.
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November 17, 2020, 12:06:49 AM |
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So it is obvious that there should be no reasons for you to say that the min bet for using the flash bet is too high.
Obviously you never try flashbet on wofl.bet, so you don't have clue how much exactly what i've said their min flash bet is too high. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Not only me, there are many people saying like that too (you can scroll many few pages back) Our dice game has been updated! New sounds & animations implemented, enjoy!
I've tried your updated dice game, but unfortunately i've found the betting speed is slower now than before. My connection was good anyway
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November 17, 2020, 08:24:38 AM |
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We are currently looking at this situation! Glad to hear that! Keep me informed and let me know if it changes, and I will gladly take another look. I like the new animations you introduced to your Dice game. Every time the mouse runs over the slider, we get a loud notification ever without clicking od adjusting anything.
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November 17, 2020, 01:24:50 PM |
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So it is obvious that there should be no reasons for you to say that the min bet for using the flash bet is too high.
Obviously you never try flashbet on wofl.bet, so you don't have clue how much exactly what i've said their min flash bet is too high. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Not only me, there are many people saying like that too (you can scroll many few pages back) Whether I have tried it or not, it has nothing to do with my comment because I'm replying to your post which gives me the clue, so it does not make senses to say that I have no clue since you inform it previously on your post as quoted below: basebet is 0.38 Doge and TRX is 0.058 TRX which really high In this case, I consider above min bet is dust amount since it is less than 1cent. IMO it is something contradictive when you say that you wont bet dust amount but you complain that less than 1 cent is too high. All in all, probably we have different understanding/opinion about how much is "dust amount". Case closed.
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November 17, 2020, 02:33:32 PM |
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So it is obvious that there should be no reasons for you to say that the min bet for using the flash bet is too high.
Obviously you never try flashbet on wofl.bet, so you don't have clue how much exactly what i've said their min flash bet is too high. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Not only me, there are many people saying like that too (you can scroll many few pages back) Whether I have tried it or not, it has nothing to do with my comment because I'm replying to your post which gives me the clue, so it does not make senses to say that I have no clue since you inform it previously on your post as quoted below: basebet is 0.38 Doge and TRX is 0.058 TRX which really high In this case, I consider above min bet is dust amount since it is less than 1cent. IMO it is something contradictive when you say that you wont bet dust amount but you complain that less than 1 cent is too high. All in all, probably we have different understanding/opinion about how much is "dust amount". Case closed. I guess he is talking in a cumulative sense and using flashbet which gives 2000 bet per second which means 0.38 Doge * 2000 = 760 Doge wagered in just 1 sec. and at the rate of Doge as $0.003, that is equal to $2.2 per second which mean playing nonstop for 1 hour will give a player a wagered amount of $7,960. Well, that is quite huge for a small time player.
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November 17, 2020, 03:09:28 PM |
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Cool update Wolf.bet didn't really know that you update your game I just found it out when I played awhile ago and I just saw your update here on the forum. I like how the Wolf.bet keeps improving their website from time to time.
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November 17, 2020, 03:53:03 PM Last edit: November 17, 2020, 05:02:53 PM by Mahdirakib |
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~snip~ In this case, I consider above min bet is dust amount since it is less than 1cent. IMO it is something contradictive when you say that you wont bet dust amount but you complain that less than 1 cent is too high. All in all, probably we have different understanding/opinion about how much is "dust amount". Case closed.
<snip> will give a player a wagered amount of $7,960. Well, that is quite huge for a small time player. This is not the case, in btc mini bet amount is 10 sats. You can consider it as dust but people who use different strategy for their game and want to use flash bet, this mini bet amount will cost them much. It's not even helpful to run some strategy with small bankroll. As example: You are playing at 2× payout with 100% increase on loss. If the mini bet become 1 sats you will be able to place 4 more bets (1sats, 2sats, 4sats and 8sats) before it reach over 10 sats. Which will allow you to avoid longer red streak with small bankroll. Think that your bankroll is 10,500 sats. When mini bet is 1 sats you can face upto 13 reds which will cost 8191 sats. As the mini base is 10 sats at the site you can face upto 10 reds which will cost 10,230 sats. So you are losing more amount with small red streak for the higher mini bet. 1 sats is obviously a dust amount, but if you notice the example correctly then you will realize the importance of it. Wolf.bet allowing to place 1 sats bet in manual and auto game mode. So they should also consider it for flash bet. Everyone doesn't use flashbet for wagering. Wolf.bet have 1% house edge in dice game. By using the method, wagering 7,960$ will cost you around 80$. It make sense too. BTW they have increased the max limit to 25,000 in a single flash bet.
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~snip~ In this case, I consider above min bet is dust amount since it is less than 1cent. IMO it is something contradictive when you say that you wont bet dust amount but you complain that less than 1 cent is too high. All in all, probably we have different understanding/opinion about how much is "dust amount". Case closed.
<snip> will give a player a wagered amount of $7,960. Well, that is quite huge for a small time player. This is not the case, in btc mini bet amount is 10 sats. You can consider it as dust but people who use different strategy for their game and want to use flash bet, this mini bet amount will cost them much. It's not even helpful to run some strategy with small bankroll. As example: You are playing at 2× payout with 100% increase on loss. If the mini bet become 1 sats you will be able to place 4 more bets (1sats, 2sats, 4sats and 8sats) before it reach over 10 sats. Which will allow you to avoid longer red streak with small bankroll. Think that your bankroll is 10,500 sats. When mini bet is 1 sats you can face upto 13 reds which will cost 8191 sats. As the mini base is 10 sats at the site you can face upto 10 reds which will cost 10,230 sats. So you are losing more amount with small red streak for the higher mini bet. 1 sats is obviously a dust amount, but if you notice the example correctly then you will realize the importance of it. Wolf.bet allowing to place 1 sats bet in manual and auto game mode. So they should also consider it for flash bet. Everyone doesn't use flashbet for wagering. Wolf.bet have 1% house edge in dice game. By using the method, wagering 7,960$ will cost you around 8$. It make sense too. BTW they have increased the max limit to 25,000 in a single flash bet. I am not talking about a single bet instance, I was talking about a cumulative bet in a session using flashbet. But, yes I agree that Wolf.bet should set the minimum bet the same both for manual, autobet and flashbet.
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I guess he is talking in a cumulative sense and using flashbet which gives 2000 bet per second which means 0.38 Doge * 2000 = 760 Doge wagered in just 1 sec. and at the rate of Doge as $0.003, that is equal to $2.2 per second which mean playing nonstop for 1 hour will give a player a wagered amount of $7,960. Well, that is quite huge for a small time player I have to admit I never thought about this use of flashbet We could easily build a very safe martingale strategy (like losing balance on a streak of 100 losses at 50% chance), so as not to win something but just overcome the house edge and simply stay where we are. Then we could notch up our wagered amount by running flashbet non-stop. Indeed, there's the limit of 20k bets per session (if I remember correctly), but I'm curious how quickly we would rise to the top in the Wolf race if the limit was removed and we were the only ones using flashbet for that purpose
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November 17, 2020, 06:23:34 PM |
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I guess he is talking in a cumulative sense and using flashbet which gives 2000 bet per second which means 0.38 Doge * 2000 = 760 Doge wagered in just 1 sec. and at the rate of Doge as $0.003, that is equal to $2.2 per second which mean playing nonstop for 1 hour will give a player a wagered amount of $7,960. Well, that is quite huge for a small time player I have to admit I never thought about this use of flashbet We could easily build a very safe martingale strategy (like losing balance on a streak of 100 losses at 50% chance), so as not to win something but just overcome the house edge and simply stay where we are. Then we could notch up our wagered amount by running flashbet non-stop. Indeed, there's the limit of 20k bets per session (if I remember correctly), but I'm curious how quickly we would rise to the top in the Wolf race if the limit was removed and we were the only ones using flashbet for that purpose 25k bets per session! I tried many strategies using flash bet, and I played maximum bets, 25k! You need a really good strategy to wager a lot and not lose much (and if you are in profit even better), and I have good sessions, but sooner or later magic losing streaks appears in your 25k rolls and your amount get melted! For example if you bet 1 cent at x2 without any increasing you can win or lose some little amount, but once you will lose like more than 50% of your bankroll, because in that 25k rolls were many many reds! If min bet for flash is lower than this everyone would play it like crazy even with 100 coins (doge, xrp, trx), like this you are limited to add more money, or to risk a lot! When you think about it flash is a big risk in any way, but in the end it's what makes it so damn interesting! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Flash bet is literally the enemy of a gambler if they are in it for the money. Normally we say stuff like "if you long enough, house edge will make sure you lose your money" and mathematically that is correct, but with flash bet you do not need long period of time, no matter how much money you have, you could lose all of it under 1 hour if you wager carelessly enough. It is really something huge and we are talking about just doge here, think about gambling flash bet with stuff like ethereum or even bitcoin and you will realize that you end up with countless amount of money in just few hours!
Hence I wouldn't suggest it to anyone, there is no strategy or method that could make you win with flash bet, you are gambling tons of money and you are gambling it against the house. My suggestion would be highly manual per bet and just try to have fun and get entertainment value out of this, wolf.bet is a marvlous place to have fun, it is one of the most fun places I have gambled, just focus on that part.
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I guess he is talking in a cumulative sense and using flashbet which gives 2000 bet per second which means 0.38 Doge * 2000 = 760 Doge wagered in just 1 sec. and at the rate of Doge as $0.003, that is equal to $2.2 per second which mean playing nonstop for 1 hour will give a player a wagered amount of $7,960. Well, that is quite huge for a small time player I have to admit I never thought about this use of flashbet We could easily build a very safe martingale strategy (like losing balance on a streak of 100 losses at 50% chance), so as not to win something but just overcome the house edge and simply stay where we are. Then we could notch up our wagered amount by running flashbet non-stop. Indeed, there's the limit of 20k bets per session (if I remember correctly), but I'm curious how quickly we would rise to the top in the Wolf race if the limit was removed and we were the only ones using flashbet for that purpose 25k bets per session! Okay, I stand corrected But with 25k bets my approach should work even better. The point with extremely long losing streaks is that you are very, very unlikely to hit them in your lifetime, or even the entire lifetime of the universe. Put differently, you will be accumulating wins, not losses, albeit very slowly (and beating the house edge in the meanwhile). But since you will be looking for wagered amounts, not profits as such, it doesn't really matter as long as you don't lose
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November 18, 2020, 07:23:16 AM |
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Okay, I stand corrected
But with 25k bets my approach should work even better. The point with extremely long losing streaks is that you are very, very unlikely to hit them in your lifetime, or even the entire lifetime of the universe. Put differently, you will be accumulating wins, not losses, albeit very slowly (and beating the house edge in the meanwhile). But since you will be looking for wagered amounts, not profits as such, it doesn't really matter as long as you don't lose
Please feel free to share any strategy you think it will work! I am trying to find some good strategies, and I am testing so many of them! As always some of them work for some time, but sooner or later I get busted! I have one nice strat now that I am rolling, but I would like to see some of your concrete strats! Don't share your thread, you did it already, and after scrolling trough 11-12 pages I didn't find any setting, just a lot of talk! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) My username at wolf is same as here, so you can even send me message there, thanks in advance! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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November 18, 2020, 09:39:27 AM |
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Min bet is something you have to decide for yourself and not a global thing, it could be way too much for some people or it could be nothing even remotely close to what some people gambling. I could be rich and betting 100 dollars per flash bet and just go for a lunch and come back and still have money left because I could be super wealthy gambling here, whereas if I am poor, I would want to gamble with under 1 cent for flash bet as well and I would want 1 satoshi to be available on flash bets (or 1 gwei) and I could just gamble for a longer period of time with flash bets.
This is not something we can decide for the whole website, we can only do this per person basis and since you can't just go around and putting minimum on each different person, making it smaller would cover everyone.
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November 18, 2020, 10:40:45 AM |
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Minimum bet of 10 sats makes flash betting pretty much pointless for martingale gamblers who focus on long losing streaks. Regular betting is better in comparison in my opinion.
Wolf.bet offers very low minimum bets in certain games which is why I expected the same from flash bets, but that was clearly not the case. It makes sense though since gamblers could beat the house in certain cases if the minimum bet was lower.
10 sats might seem like dust, but that can amount to something significant over the course of 2k bets.
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November 18, 2020, 11:18:34 AM |
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Don't share your thread, you did it already, and after scrolling trough 11-12 pages I didn't find any setting, just a lot of talk! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) My username at wolf is same as here, so you can even send me message there, thanks in advance! You should understand the ins and outs of what you're doing, that is to say, get the hang, touch and feel of it. If you don't understand the basics, i.e. what makes something tick and click, blindly following someone's strategy is a recipe for disaster, in this case losing your balance. But there's a hope. Run a Dogecoin autobet session (I'm not sure if flashbet will do) with the minimum amount as base bet and set the odds at 50%, while the increase on loss small enough to successfully survive, say, 50 losses in a row. Run this setup for 1M times (it will probably take a week), and then you will see with your own eyes how it is possible to beat the house edge. Then come back here and show us some stats And remember, if something doesn't work, it is not my fault. If it does, it certainly is
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November 19, 2020, 12:29:25 PM |
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Flash bet is literally the enemy of a gambler if they are in it for the money. Normally we say stuff like "if you long enough, house edge will make sure you lose your money" and mathematically that is correct, but with flash bet you do not need long period of time, no matter how much money you have, you could lose all of it under 1 hour if you wager carelessly enough. It is really something huge and we are talking about just doge here, think about gambling flash bet with stuff like ethereum or even bitcoin and you will realize that you end up with countless amount of money in just few hours!
Hence I wouldn't suggest it to anyone, there is no strategy or method that could make you win with flash bet, you are gambling tons of money and you are gambling it against the house. My suggestion would be highly manual per bet and just try to have fun and get entertainment value out of this, wolf.bet is a marvlous place to have fun, it is one of the most fun places I have gambled, just focus on that part.
Flash bets are not really a way strategy workers use for a very long period of time, it is something to "test" their ideas on, think of it as a board and they write down everything they do and flash bet allows them to see what is going on very quickly and if it looks like it may work slower they just try it on regular auto or even their bots or maybe even manually. Sure there are people who gamble with flash bets nobody can deny that, but someone who properly tests out strategies and methods to gamble would never use it for hours, that would make no sense at all and they know the fact that they would lose money that way. Hence, why they just use it for short bursts of 2-3 minutes at most and check the results and adjust accordingly to what they should change and not change.
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November 19, 2020, 03:45:41 PM |
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Flash bet is literally the enemy of a gambler if they are in it for the money. Normally we say stuff like "if you long enough, house edge will make sure you lose your money" and mathematically that is correct, but with flash bet you do not need long period of time, no matter how much money you have, you could lose all of it under 1 hour if you wager carelessly enough. It is really something huge and we are talking about just doge here, think about gambling flash bet with stuff like ethereum or even bitcoin and you will realize that you end up with countless amount of money in just few hours!
Hence I wouldn't suggest it to anyone, there is no strategy or method that could make you win with flash bet, you are gambling tons of money and you are gambling it against the house. My suggestion would be highly manual per bet and just try to have fun and get entertainment value out of this, wolf.bet is a marvlous place to have fun, it is one of the most fun places I have gambled, just focus on that part.
Flash bets are not really a way strategy workers use for a very long period of time, it is something to "test" their ideas on, think of it as a board and they write down everything they do and flash bet allows them to see what is going on very quickly and if it looks like it may work slower they just try it on regular auto or even their bots or maybe even manually There can be other uses as well For example, flashbet can be used to boost up your wagered amounts. You run it with settings safe enough to cope with the house edge, and then put it in an endless cycle (somehow) while your rank and, by extension, your rakeback go up along with your position in the Wolf race. And who said that flashbet is the enemy of the gambler if they are in it for the money? I would say it largely depends on what kind of money you are after
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November 19, 2020, 03:48:33 PM |
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You guys do realize that you can set stop on losses and stop on win amounts while using Flash betting right? It's just a faster way to bet, doesn't mean there is a bigger edge for the house or player.
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November 19, 2020, 05:15:19 PM |
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You guys do realize that you can set stop on losses and stop on win amounts while using Flash betting right? It's just a faster way to bet, doesn't mean there is a bigger edge for the house or player Flashbet doesn't allow you to control the process For example, if you are using autobet, you may see that something is wrong with your strategy and still have a chance to stop it immediately before it's too late. With flashbet, on the other hand, you are setting your fate in advance, so to speak. Then, if you don't quite understand what you are doing, once you hit the start button you are finished. I think that's a crucial distinction, a matter of life and death in a sense
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