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November 20, 2020, 03:26:30 PM
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To be fair, I am amazed at some point because doge is cheap, one doge costs 0.0029 USD. For 3 dollar, you get 1000 dogecoin, for 300 - 100 000. Idk what to say but personally I think that with 100 000 dogecoin, you can beat the house, your fail can't continue infinitely when the house edge is 1% and the possibility of win is 45.5%.
It is possible to beat the house with such a small Dogecoin minimum bet using Martingale or other strategies, but you will need to run thousands of sessions simultaneously. You could achieve this if you had access to a huge server.

If you try running a single session with such a small amount, you will earn a few cents everyday and nothing more due to the limited betting speeds available.

There was an user here on this forum who was running a marginal strategy with dicebot for a long time on Wolf.bet with a starting bet of 0.00000001 Doge. With such amount you can't lose but it takes a very long time to get a decent profit in BTC.



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November 20, 2020, 03:53:50 PM
Last edit: November 20, 2020, 11:03:53 PM by deisik
 #2082

To be fair, I am amazed at some point because doge is cheap, one doge costs 0.0029 USD. For 3 dollar, you get 1000 dogecoin, for 300 - 100 000. Idk what to say but personally I think that with 100 000 dogecoin, you can beat the house, your fail can't continue infinitely when the house edge is 1% and the possibility of win is 45.5%.
It is possible to beat the house with such a small Dogecoin minimum bet using Martingale or other strategies, but you will need to run thousands of sessions simultaneously. You could achieve this if you had access to a huge server.

If you try running a single session with such a small amount, you will earn a few cents everyday and nothing more due to the limited betting speeds available.

There was an user here on this forum who was running a marginal strategy with dicebot for a long time on Wolf.bet with a starting bet of 0.00000001 Doge. With such amount you can't lose but it takes a very long time to get a decent profit in BTC

It was probably me

Although I didn't use a dice bot and profits weren't that bad either, I must admit it was very psychologically exhausting and stressful. Deep down inside you understand that even if on average the chances of busting are low, it doesn't in the least mean that you won't bust. With that said, it was still a good experience anyway since it offered a lot of insights into what random truly is and how you can leverage it in real life (more specifically, variance and statistical outliers)

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November 20, 2020, 07:25:01 PM
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To be fair, I am amazed at some point because doge is cheap, one doge costs 0.0029 USD. For 3 dollar, you get 1000 dogecoin, for 300 - 100 000. Idk what to say but personally I think that with 100 000 dogecoin, you can beat the house, your fail can't continue infinitely when the house edge is 1% and the possibility of win is 45.5%.
It is possible to beat the house with such a small Dogecoin minimum bet using Martingale or other strategies, but you will need to run thousands of sessions simultaneously. You could achieve this if you had access to a huge server.

If you try running a single session with such a small amount, you will earn a few cents everyday and nothing more due to the limited betting speeds available.

There was an user here on this forum who was running a marginal strategy with dicebot for a long time on Wolf.bet with a starting bet of 0.00000001 Doge. With such amount you can't lose but it takes a very long time to get a decent profit in BTC

It was probably me

Although I didn't use a dice bot and profits weren't that bad either, I should admit it was very psychologically exhausting and stressful. Deep down inside you understand that even if on average the chances of busting are low, it doesn't in the least mean that you won't bust. With that said, it was still a good experience anyway since it offered a lot of insights into what random truly is and how you can leverage it in real life (more specifically, variance and statistical outliers)

Well with that you can handle a very big red streak. What was the worst streak you had?



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November 20, 2020, 07:52:20 PM
Last edit: November 20, 2020, 10:57:43 PM by deisik
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Although I didn't use a dice bot and profits weren't that bad either, I should admit it was very psychologically exhausting and stressful. Deep down inside you understand that even if on average the chances of busting are low, it doesn't in the least mean that you won't bust. With that said, it was still a good experience anyway since it offered a lot of insights into what random truly is and how you can leverage it in real life (more specifically, variance and statistical outliers)

Well with that you can handle a very big red streak. What was the worst streak you had?

Let me see

I started at 37% win chance, and I once was a couple rolls short from busting, so it was like 32 reds in a row. Ultimately, I raised the win chance to 42%, and the worst I saw was like a few streaks of 27-28 losing bets. I don't know why, but it felt like variance was getting out of hand with chances below 37%

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November 20, 2020, 10:36:15 PM
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Although I didn't use a dice bot and profits weren't that bad either, I should admit it was very psychologically exhausting and stressful. Deep down inside you understand that even if on average the chances of busting are low, it doesn't in the least mean that you won't bust. With that said, it was still a good experience anyway since it offered a lot of insights into what random truly is and how you can leverage it in real life (more specifically, variance and statistical outliers)

Well with that you can handle a very big red streak. What was the worst streak you had?

Let me see

I started at 37% win chance, and once I was a couple rolls short from busting, so it was like 32 reds in a row. Ultimately, I raised the win chance to 42%, and the worst I saw was like a few streaks of 27-28 losing bets. I don't know why, but it felt like variance was getting out of hand with chances below 37%
OMG, 32 reds in row. You could've made changes once it reached ten rolls. Anyhow you've made your bets with small amounts. Myself has experienced losing streak of 8 consecutive losses with 50% winning chance. At times the under and over makes a big row of reds. Random pick of under and over could've stopped you from reds.

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November 20, 2020, 11:00:53 PM
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Although I didn't use a dice bot and profits weren't that bad either, I should admit it was very psychologically exhausting and stressful. Deep down inside you understand that even if on average the chances of busting are low, it doesn't in the least mean that you won't bust. With that said, it was still a good experience anyway since it offered a lot of insights into what random truly is and how you can leverage it in real life (more specifically, variance and statistical outliers)

Well with that you can handle a very big red streak. What was the worst streak you had?

Let me see

I started at 37% win chance, and once I was a couple rolls short from busting, so it was like 32 reds in a row. Ultimately, I raised the win chance to 42%, and the worst I saw was like a few streaks of 27-28 losing bets. I don't know why, but it felt like variance was getting out of hand with chances below 37%
OMG, 32 reds in row. You could've made changes once it reached ten rolls. Anyhow you've made your bets with small amounts. Myself has experienced losing streak of 8 consecutive losses with 50% winning chance. At times the under and over makes a big row of reds. Random pick of under and over could've stopped you from reds.
The 32 reds would be pretty exhausting and will be mentally draining for sure. I think he is using some kind of strategy that's why he stuck on a 37% win chance rather than raising it up. Well If I personally experienced it I would do the same and will increase my win chance. We should settle on the win chance we can handle, I personally don't go under 40% win chance even if the reward is high, I  can't take too much red streak in myself and seeing my bankroll slowly drain.
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November 20, 2020, 11:09:23 PM
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Let me see

I started at 37% win chance, and I once was a couple rolls short from busting, so it was like 32 reds in a row. Ultimately, I raised the win chance to 42%, and the worst I saw was like a few streaks of 27-28 losing bets. I don't know why, but it felt like variance was getting out of hand with chances below 37%

I'm shocked to hear that it still survived 32 reds. I didn't see your run, can you tell me what was your bet size and did you martingale? 2.6757x must be your set payout, right? And you're right, the variance does slip out badly if the reds continue. Btw which side of the dice did you play those bets with? Under 37 or Over 62.99?

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November 20, 2020, 11:20:23 PM
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Although I didn't use a dice bot and profits weren't that bad either, I should admit it was very psychologically exhausting and stressful. Deep down inside you understand that even if on average the chances of busting are low, it doesn't in the least mean that you won't bust. With that said, it was still a good experience anyway since it offered a lot of insights into what random truly is and how you can leverage it in real life (more specifically, variance and statistical outliers)

Well with that you can handle a very big red streak. What was the worst streak you had?

Let me see

I started at 37% win chance, and I once was a couple rolls short from busting, so it was like 32 reds in a row. Ultimately, I raised the win chance to 42%, and the worst I saw was like a few streaks of 27-28 losing bets. I don't know why, but it felt like variance was getting out of hand with chances below 37%

That was a crazy red streak!  I haven't played a setup that survived that number of losing streak.  All I had played is just to survive a 16 losing streak.  It is either you have a huge bankroll or you bet the minimum possible bet amount.  I am getting interested in trying your strategy.

Let me see

I started at 37% win chance, and I once was a couple rolls short from busting, so it was like 32 reds in a row. Ultimately, I raised the win chance to 42%, and the worst I saw was like a few streaks of 27-28 losing bets. I don't know why, but it felt like variance was getting out of hand with chances below 37%

I'm shocked to hear that it still survived 32 reds. I didn't see your run, can you tell me what was your bet size and did you martingale? 2.6757x must be your set payout, right? And you're right, the variance does slip out badly if the reds continue. Btw which side of the dice did you play those bets with? Under 37 or Over 62.99?

Indeed 32 reds in martingale and still survived.  Oh does it matter if the bet is under or over, I am just curious?

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November 20, 2020, 11:42:46 PM
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For the inquiring minds, here's my setup uploaded to Google Docs (the last one I used):

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12lyrm0eUQU5Sdzydvc9vbknD5ep6qeR50KIMFT1LJFU

As you can deduce from the balance, I was able to survive a losing streak up to 34 rolls, give or take. As my balance grew, I continually augmented the increase on loss in order to squeeze maximum profits from this martingale system. I had been using it for a couple of months and started with free dogecoins

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November 20, 2020, 11:57:18 PM
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To be fair, I am amazed at some point because doge is cheap, one doge costs 0.0029 USD. For 3 dollar, you get 1000 dogecoin, for 300 - 100 000. Idk what to say but personally I think that with 100 000 dogecoin, you can beat the house, your fail can't continue infinitely when the house edge is 1% and the possibility of win is 45.5%.
It is possible to beat the house with such a small Dogecoin minimum bet using Martingale or other strategies, but you will need to run thousands of sessions simultaneously. You could achieve this if you had access to a huge server.

If you try running a single session with such a small amount, you will earn a few cents everyday and nothing more due to the limited betting speeds available.

There was an user here on this forum who was running a marginal strategy with dicebot for a long time on Wolf.bet with a starting bet of 0.00000001 Doge. With such amount you can't lose but it takes a very long time to get a decent profit in BTC.

What is marginal strategy? It is something new for me because I have never heard someone use marginal strategy on dice game. Do you mean to say martingale? Anyway no matter it is marginal or martingale, is this even worth to do it with such low starting bet amount? I do believe it may take days or even weeks to get 10doge profit, I wonder why someone is willing to do it. Imo, it does not even worth the electricity/internet bill he need to pay while running the dicebot.

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November 21, 2020, 12:18:55 AM
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What is marginal strategy? It is something new for me because I have never heard someone use marginal strategy on dice game. Do you mean to say martingale? Anyway no matter it is marginal or martingale, is this even worth to do it with such low starting bet amount? I do believe it may take days or even weeks to get 10doge profit, I wonder why someone is willing to do it. Imo, it does not even worth the electricity/internet bill he need to pay while running the dicebot.
Its seems he means martingale strategy. It's depends from what winning chance they played, if they are chasing very big multipler or low winning chance, it's really worth to start with lowest basebet until it hit the multipler. It can be also they only did dummy bets until how many streak losses they want, then they started to bet with bigger bet
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What is marginal strategy? It is something new for me because I have never heard someone use marginal strategy on dice game. Do you mean to say martingale? Anyway no matter it is marginal or martingale, is this even worth to do it with such low starting bet amount? I do believe it may take days or even weeks to get 10doge profit, I wonder why someone is willing to do it. Imo, it does not even worth the electricity/internet bill he need to pay while running the dicebot.
Its seems he means martingale strategy. It's depends from what winning chance they played, if they are chasing very big multipler or low winning chance, it's really worth to start with lowest basebet until it hit the multipler. It can be also they only did dummy bets until how many streak losses they want, then they started to bet with bigger bet
i think it depends on your strategy before i only have 0.0015 and used a martingale and increased it to 0.015 but there's a chances i think 2-3 times that i maxed out my bet so you need a little bit of luck in using it. my multiplier by the way is x1.3 or x1.5 and multiplied my bet to 4.5 or 5 when lose.

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November 21, 2020, 12:55:49 PM
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As you can deduce from the balance, I was able to survive a losing streak up to 34 rolls, give or take. As my balance grew, I constantly augmented the increase on loss to squeeze maximum profits from this martingale system. I had been using it for a couple of months and started with free dogecoins
Surviving a 34 roll streak is seriously something else even though you started out with dust basically. I would love to run this strategy on a supercomputer which could possibly simulate thousands of these sessions concurrently leading to decent profits.

Anyway no matter it is marginal or martingale, is this even worth to do it with such low starting bet amount? I do believe it may take days or even weeks to get 10doge profit, I wonder why someone is willing to do it. Imo, it does not even worth the electricity/internet bill he need to pay while running the dicebot.
It is pretty much pointless with such a low bet due to which he never earned much. He was just trying to demonstrate that it works in the long term and ran experiments on variance etc.

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November 21, 2020, 01:44:11 PM
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Minimum bet of 10 sats makes flash betting pretty much pointless for martingale gamblers who focus on long losing streaks. Regular betting is better in comparison in my opinion.

Wolf.bet offers very low minimum bets in certain games which is why I expected the same from flash bets, but that was clearly not the case. It makes sense though since gamblers could beat the house in certain cases if the minimum bet was lower.

10 sats might seem like dust, but that can amount to something significant over the course of 2k bets.
I do not think that starting with small amount in martingale to work your way into profiting really works. That is not the strategy that would make you a ton of money because you are not betting that much money to begin with, and in order to make a decent amount of money you need to win thousands of times without ever going broke.

In this case if you wager 50k times for example and you end up with half of them profitable, that would be 25k satoshi, how could you call that something good? But in 50k bets there is a 20% chance that you could have 20 loss in a row and that is a pretty high number. So, for a chance of winning 25k satoshi, you are risking all of your money or at least 20 losses in a row, is it really worth to risk that much for that little return?

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So, for a chance of winning 25k satoshi, you are risking all of your money or at least 20 losses in a row, is it really worth to risk that much for that little return?
Gamblers are aware of these flaws, but still use Martingale and other progression strategies since they try and recover their losses in whatever way possible which is tough to avoid to be honest.

However, if you are starting with a very low minimum bet, it is possible to use these strategies effectively, but you will earn negligible amounts due to the low betting speeds offered.

If you can run multiple sessions simultaneously, it is possible to earn huge profits through these strategies as long as you don't encounter insane red streaks.

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November 21, 2020, 07:15:16 PM
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Minimum bet of 10 sats makes flash betting pretty much pointless for  gamblers who focus on long losing streaks. Regular betting is better in comparison in my opinion.

Wolf.bet offers very low minimum bets in certain games which is why I expected the same from flash bets, but that was clearly not the case. It makes sense though since gamblers could beat the house in certain cases if the minimum bet was lower.

10 sats might seem like dust, but that can amount to something significant over the course of 2k bets.

On other site they got a minimum bet of 1 sat. For martingale strategies you can counter a few more reds. But in the end you will also bust quickly there.



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November 21, 2020, 07:17:27 PM
Last edit: November 21, 2020, 10:25:45 PM by iv4n
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Like always it's support that eats my nerves!

So I deposited 1700 TRX to Wolf (transaction ID: https://tronscan.org/#/transaction/ca81bf337dc110a1b092fd7ef686cd2cb991bf9a96494e4bc5aef2330481cf60), and again situation! Even thou transaction is confirmed I don't see it my balance! This is happening almost every time with trons, and always screenshot of my wallet, addresses...but this time I sent TRX directly from exchange!
A guy from support was rude, sarcastic, and he had ultimatums... first time in my crypto gambling career I can't find a chat with support, he closed it and deleted it (I wanted to make some screenshots), is that possible? I wanted to open support chat again, I got this message "Live support is temporarily unavailable. If you want to contact us, please write an email to support@wolf.bet"! So now support fucked me off (sort of speaking), I didn't send mail to complain... as I wrote in chat with support I will come here and maybe some manager from wolf will clear the situation. For now 1700 trons are hanging in the air, let's wait and see what will happen with that.

Sometimes I am thinking about support agents (is it OK to call them like that?), and how they get paychecks for the work they are doing!?
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Edit: By some miracle (or I don't know what), my amount is credited and the issue is resolved! Smiley  Thanks wolf, I knew everything will be alright, just that support agent was a real pain in the ass! Smiley
Now let's try some auto! Good luck people!

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November 22, 2020, 12:37:15 AM
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A guy from support was rude, sarcastic, and he had ultimatums... first time in my crypto gambling career I can't find a chat with support, he closed it and deleted it (I wanted to make some screenshots), is that possible? I wanted to open support chat again, I got this message "Live support is temporarily unavailable.
Focusing on the bolded part. How can a site has very rude support like you said? Unfortunately if you didn't took any screenshot, it seems you can't do anything to support your proof. Your TRX deposit problem has solved, but i still curious about their live support, maybe you remember the nick/name of that guy?
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November 22, 2020, 07:01:16 AM
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So, for a chance of winning 25k satoshi, you are risking all of your money or at least 20 losses in a row, is it really worth to risk that much for that little return?
Gamblers are aware of these flaws, but still use Martingale and other progression strategies since they try and recover their losses in whatever way possible which is tough to avoid to be honest.

However, if you are starting with a very low minimum bet, it is possible to use these strategies effectively, but you will earn negligible amounts due to the low betting speeds offered.

If you can run multiple sessions simultaneously, it is possible to earn huge profits through these strategies as long as you don't encounter insane red streaks.

And that's really unavoidable, experieincing insane red streaks most of the time appears whatever settings you place from your strategy,
you just needed to monitor and avoid being aggressive.

If you encounter this better to moveaway for a while never to chase those loses and try to recover that quick, there's always luck if
you know how to manage your bankroll.

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