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December 15, 2023, 02:14:41 PM
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India woman and England woman  between 2nd day start of second inning has been going. Toady India not palying well they have 155 score with lose of 6 wickets.Verma made 33 run in 54 balls and Mandhana made 26 runs in 29 balls and S Rane out at zero run . Now H Kaur and Vastrakar playing  going partnership , if she as well inning they made high score for team so England woman can  come under the pressure. England woman side C Dean palying very well in bowling she took 4 wickets by giving 54 runs in 16 over and Ecclestone she took 2 wickets by giving 72 run in 13 overs
India women have a lead of 478 runs in two innings which is completely impossible for England. India lost 6 wickets for 186 runs in the second innings in this case India can declare an innings if they wish. England Women were bowled out for just 136 runs in their first innings, suggesting that they could at least score 200 runs, with India holding a lead of 478 runs, enough to defeat England.

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December 15, 2023, 02:40:41 PM
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Pakistan openers did well in the first session of their innings, but the scoring rate was way too low. You can not win a match with this approach. 487 is a big target to achieve. Pakistan's debutants bowled well and shared 8 wickets among them; this is the first time in Pakistan's test history that debutants get 8 wickets in an innings. The pace of the bowlers is not up to their reputation.
The first session will be crucial for Pakistan because the ball will seam, and things will be difficult for the batters early on. Australia will be looking for some early wickets to put the Pakistan team under pressure.
As we are watching their bowlers leaked too many runs and now their batting is doing ok but tomorrow is surely important for them with if they will play freely then surely they will be able to have something positive but if they will try to play slow then surely Nathan Lyon will create problems for them with pitch is good for batting and Pakistani batting line-up needs to score above 400+ if they want alive in this match and have some good for the rest of this series.

Imam is still on crease with Babar and few others are going to join him in coming day hopefully after watching Australian batting they will improve their technique and also having some good from their own performance with we have good thing as mostly fans were feeling Australia will go above 550+ to 600, but Pakistani new bowlers restricted them for the 487 which is good return from them after poor first day.

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December 15, 2023, 02:48:51 PM
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India woman and England woman  between 2nd day start of second inning has been going. Toady India not palying well they have 155 score with lose of 6 wickets.Verma made 33 run in 54 balls and Mandhana made 26 runs in 29 balls and S Rane out at zero run . Now H Kaur and Vastrakar playing  going partnership , if she as well inning they made high score for team so England woman can  come under the pressure. England woman side C Dean palying very well in bowling she took 4 wickets by giving 54 runs in 16 over and Ecclestone she took 2 wickets by giving 72 run in 13 overs
India women have a lead of 478 runs in two innings which is completely impossible for England. India lost 6 wickets for 186 runs in the second innings in this case India can declare an innings if they wish. England Women were bowled out for just 136 runs in their first innings, suggesting that they could at least score 200 runs, with India holding a lead of 478 runs, enough to defeat England.
India Women's first innings performance was superb to give England Women a lead of 428 runs. England Women went into bat with a lead of 428 runs and were bowled out for just 136 runs. India Women's team did not bat as well in the second innings as compared to the first innings. India women's team lost 6 wickets for just 186 runs. Let's see how many runs the India women's team can give England a lead in the second innings.

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December 15, 2023, 03:00:40 PM
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I am impressed with Khurram Shahzad, yesterday he bowled quite beautifully and he was the only disciplined guy in the Pakistani bowling lineup. Didn't watch his spell today so don't know how he reacted to the 2nd new ball.

Bowling in Australia is not an easy task for the subcontinent bowlers, most of the time bowlers from our part of the world get too excited with the bouncy wickets. Extra bounce and fast paced pitch give them the illusion of being fast (Similar to SENA spinners in India) so they try extra hard and in doing so they leak runs like a club cricketer, some do learn the art if they are given a long rope but for the new guys only time can tell. 

I've noticed this with Afridi, if batsmen start attacking him he goes into his shell and looks quite average and it happens in every format. Having said that today he bowled a good spell with the 2nd new ball but he's nowhere close to what he was 2 years back. Naseem is injured so no point talking about him but he could've been effective here because he take care of his line n length. Regarding Haris, i won't say much as i don't consider him a Test bowler.

In Pakistan there is no dearth of talent. But once some talented player lands in the national team, they don't know how to groom him. I will be very disappointed if Khurram Shahzad and Aamer Jamal ends up like Muhammad Hasnain. They change the format of their first-class competition every 2-3 years and as a result of that there is no stability. That maybe one of the reasons. And regarding their weakness in Australian pitches, I am surprised as many of these players are used to Australian conditions (they participate in the Big Bash League).

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December 15, 2023, 03:50:45 PM
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Pakistan openers did well in the first session of their innings, but the scoring rate was way too low. You can not win a match with this approach. 487 is a big target to achieve. Pakistan's debutants bowled well and shared 8 wickets among them; this is the first time in Pakistan's test history that debutants get 8 wickets in an innings. The pace of the bowlers is not up to their reputation.
The first session will be crucial for Pakistan because the ball will seam, and things will be difficult for the batters early on. Australia will be looking for some early wickets to put the Pakistan team under pressure.
Australia made 487 in his first innings while pakistan scored 132/2 in 53 overs and Day 2 stumps abdullah shafique 42 runs and shan masood played 30 runs innings while imam ul haq on 38 and khurram shahzad on 7 runs are on the crease and start morning session of day 3 with his batting. Mitchell starc and Nathan lyon took single wickets Now pakistan trail by 355 runs Pak playing very slow they need to play fast on day 3 to avoid test draw Australian bowlers shoud take wickets early on day 3. its very difficult situation for pakistan now to win this test on perth

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December 15, 2023, 04:09:22 PM
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Given the fact that they sent a very inexperienced squad, I would say that Pakistan did well to restrict Australia to 346/5 in the first day. Now they are 416/6, as Mitchell Marsh and Alex Carey added 90 valuable runs for the 6th wicket partnership. Now Mitchell Starc has come out to join Marsh, and there is a good chance that Australia may get to a total of 500 plus. In that case, avoiding follow on will be difficult for Pakistan. Australia has a full strength attack, which includes Pat Cummins, Mitchell Starc, Nathan Lyon and Josh Hazlewood.   
Australia concluded there innings at 487 runs. Pakistani bowlers have done a decent job, apart from picking the wicket of Warner very late. As usual they were sloppy in field, missed catches and stumping chances. All these blunders allowed Australia to score 487 runs. Now it will be interesting to see how Pakistan respond to this total of 487. There are high expectations from Babar Azam and I hope Pakistan has the ability to score 300 or more runs.
After watching first day highlights I was expecting good target but at the end we have good comeback from them and both debutant done good job with 8 wickets for them, and they restricted Australia for the 487 is also big achievement for them, but now we have to check how Pakistani batsmen will perform here on this batting pitch because there is nothing they need to play positive and having try to stay for long time if they want to have something good.

Mostly players are new and having not experience of this format as well but still selectors play gamble with all cricketing fans also know how Australians treat Pakistani cricket at their home they never won any match since 1996, and they never think about this as well what to do for the improvement and better results as well.

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December 15, 2023, 04:42:28 PM
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Pakistan openers did well in the first session of their innings, but the scoring rate was way too low. You can not win a match with this approach. 487 is a big target to achieve. Pakistan's debutants bowled well and shared 8 wickets among them; this is the first time in Pakistan's test history that debutants get 8 wickets in an innings. The pace of the bowlers is not up to their reputation.
The first session will be crucial for Pakistan because the ball will seam, and things will be difficult for the batters early on. Australia will be looking for some early wickets to put the Pakistan team under pressure.
Australia made 487 in his first innings while pakistan scored 132/2 in 53 overs and Day 2 stumps abdullah shafique 42 runs and shan masood played 30 runs innings while imam ul haq on 38 and khurram shahzad on 7 runs are on the crease and start morning session of day 3 with his batting. Mitchell starc and Nathan lyon took single wickets Now pakistan trail by 355 runs Pak playing very slow they need to play fast on day 3 to avoid test draw Australian bowlers shoud take wickets early on day 3. its very difficult situation for pakistan now to win this test on perth

Pakistan team scored a good 132 runs for just 2 wickets on the first day. Because the main reason for playing Test is to protect the wicket and survive for a long time. Then it is definitely possible to compete with any strong team.  I can already see that two wickets have fallen they have already scored good runs. If Imam-ul-Haq can stay patient properly then definitely can fulfill the target of 487 runs given by Australia. As the Pakistan team lost only two wickets on the first day, they are not under much pressure.

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December 15, 2023, 04:55:05 PM
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Pakistan openers did well in the first session of their innings, but the scoring rate was way too low. You can not win a match with this approach. 487 is a big target to achieve. Pakistan's debutants bowled well and shared 8 wickets among them; this is the first time in Pakistan's test history that debutants get 8 wickets in an innings. The pace of the bowlers is not up to their reputation.
The first session will be crucial for Pakistan because the ball will seam, and things will be difficult for the batters early on. Australia will be looking for some early wickets to put the Pakistan team under pressure.
Australia made 487 in his first innings while pakistan scored 132/2 in 53 overs and Day 2 stumps abdullah shafique 42 runs and shan masood played 30 runs innings while imam ul haq on 38 and khurram shahzad on 7 runs are on the crease and start morning session of day 3 with his batting. Mitchell starc and Nathan lyon took single wickets Now pakistan trail by 355 runs Pak playing very slow they need to play fast on day 3 to avoid test draw Australian bowlers shoud take wickets early on day 3. its very difficult situation for pakistan now to win this test on perth
2 nd day of this test game is between Australia team and Pakistan team and in this day, Pakistan team chase down 132 runs in 53 overs and by losing 2 wickets in this game. In 1 st inning, Australia team scored high runs of total 487 runs in 113.2 overs by losing all wickets. Now Pakistan team 1 st inning was starting in pitch and they performed very well. A. Shafique and Imam ul haq started this game as a opener batsman in this test game A. Shafique scored 42 runs in 121 balls and he hitted six 4s and his wicket bowled out by N.Lyon bowler of Australia team. Imam ul haq still showed their batting lineup effort on ground and he scored 38 runs in 136 balls and he hitted three 4s. S.Maqsood also wiped out on ground and he scored 30 runs in 42 balls and he hitted five 4s. K.Shahzad scored 7 runs in few balls and hitted one 4s and still played on ground.

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December 15, 2023, 04:59:24 PM
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Pakistan openers did well in the first session of their innings, but the scoring rate was way too low. You can not win a match with this approach. 487 is a big target to achieve. Pakistan's debutants bowled well and shared 8 wickets among them; this is the first time in Pakistan's test history that debutants get 8 wickets in an innings. The pace of the bowlers is not up to their reputation.
The first session will be crucial for Pakistan because the ball will seam, and things will be difficult for the batters early on. Australia will be looking for some early wickets to put the Pakistan team under pressure.
Australia made 487 in his first innings while pakistan scored 132/2 in 53 overs and Day 2 stumps abdullah shafique 42 runs and shan masood played 30 runs innings while imam ul haq on 38 and khurram shahzad on 7 runs are on the crease and start morning session of day 3 with his batting. Mitchell starc and Nathan lyon took single wickets Now pakistan trail by 355 runs Pak playing very slow they need to play fast on day 3 to avoid test draw Australian bowlers shoud take wickets early on day 3. its very difficult situation for pakistan now to win this test on perth
Australia batted brilliantly in their first innings. Australia's opener David Warner batted brilliantly. David Warner scored 164 off 211 balls. Australia batted brilliantly from every batsman as every batsman batted brilliantly they were able to give Pakistan a big run lead. Australia gave Pakistan a lead of 487 runs in their first innings. Batting against the target of 487 runs given by Australia, Pakistan's openers started the game cautiously. Pakistan's current score is 132 runs for 2 wickets. Pakistan's next batsmen will need to bat carefully to get close to Australia's 487 runs. But in the first innings, I think Australia has more chances to win.

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December 15, 2023, 05:33:32 PM
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Pakistan team scored a good 132 runs for just 2 wickets on the first day. Because the main reason for playing Test is to protect the wicket and survive for a long time. Then it is definitely possible to compete with any strong team.  I can already see that two wickets have fallen they have already scored good runs. If Imam-ul-Haq can stay patient properly then definitely can fulfill the target of 487 runs given by Australia. As the Pakistan team lost only two wickets on the first day, they are not under much pressure.
You are underestimating the Australian bowling attack. 487 is a long way away which is why I am not expecting Pakistan to give them a lead. They will probably end up trailing them by a decent margin.

Lyon is the man to look out for in my opinion since he can rip apart lineups in a heartbeat.

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December 15, 2023, 05:35:50 PM
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Pakistan openers did well in the first session of their innings, but the scoring rate was way too low. You can not win a match with this approach. 487 is a big target to achieve. Pakistan's debutants bowled well and shared 8 wickets among them; this is the first time in Pakistan's test history that debutants get 8 wickets in an innings. The pace of the bowlers is not up to their reputation.
The first session will be crucial for Pakistan because the ball will seam, and things will be difficult for the batters early on. Australia will be looking for some early wickets to put the Pakistan team under pressure.
Australia made 487 in his first innings while pakistan scored 132/2 in 53 overs and Day 2 stumps abdullah shafique 42 runs and shan masood played 30 runs innings while imam ul haq on 38 and khurram shahzad on 7 runs are on the crease and start morning session of day 3 with his batting. Mitchell starc and Nathan lyon took single wickets Now pakistan trail by 355 runs Pak playing very slow they need to play fast on day 3 to avoid test draw Australian bowlers shoud take wickets early on day 3. its very difficult situation for pakistan now to win this test on perth
Australia batted brilliantly in their first innings. Australia's opener David Warner batted brilliantly. David Warner scored 164 off 211 balls. Australia batted brilliantly from every batsman as every batsman batted brilliantly they were able to give Pakistan a big run lead. Australia gave Pakistan a lead of 487 runs in their first innings. Batting against the target of 487 runs given by Australia, Pakistan's openers started the game cautiously. Pakistan's current score is 132 runs for 2 wickets. Pakistan's next batsmen will need to bat carefully to get close to Australia's 487 runs. But in the first innings, I think Australia has more chances to win.
Among the Australian cricketers we often see David Warner trying to keep his run ratio approximately with batting. This batsman has a good record in Test cricket. In his long test career he has 36 half centuries including 26 centuries and 3 double centuries in 110 international matches. He batted really well against Pakistan in the first innings of the first test. Australia scored 487 runs in the first innings which is definitely a good total and they bowled today and took two early wickets from Pakistan. Now Pakistan team is definitely under pressure. They need big partnerships as well as need score. Batsmen will find it difficult to bat depending on the conditions.

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December 15, 2023, 05:53:03 PM
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Australia batted brilliantly in their first innings. Australia's opener David Warner batted brilliantly. David Warner scored 164 off 211 balls. Australia batted brilliantly from every batsman as every batsman batted brilliantly they were able to give Pakistan a big run lead. Australia gave Pakistan a lead of 487 runs in their first innings. Batting against the target of 487 runs given by Australia, Pakistan's openers started the game cautiously. Pakistan's current score is 132 runs for 2 wickets. Pakistan's next batsmen will need to bat carefully to get close to Australia's 487 runs. But in the first innings, I think Australia has more chances to win.

Warner singlehandedly destroyed the Pakistani pacers. He was so destructive that the bowlers didn't knew what to do (including the experienced Shaheen Shah Afridi) to prevent Australia from building a massive total. The breakthrough finally came when Travis Head and David Warner got out in short intervals, both of them falling to Aamer Jamal. But that wasn't the end of torture for Pakistani bowlers. Mitchell Marsh started smashing them all around the park and they got really close to 500. Anyway, in return Pakistan has got a good start.

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I am impressed with Khurram Shahzad, yesterday he bowled quite beautifully and he was the only disciplined guy in the Pakistani bowling lineup. Didn't watch his spell today so don't know how he reacted to the 2nd new ball.

Bowling in Australia is not an easy task for the subcontinent bowlers, most of the time bowlers from our part of the world get too excited with the bouncy wickets. Extra bounce and fast paced pitch give them the illusion of being fast (Similar to SENA spinners in India) so they try extra hard and in doing so they leak runs like a club cricketer, some do learn the art if they are given a long rope but for the new guys only time can tell. 

I've noticed this with Afridi, if batsmen start attacking him he goes into his shell and looks quite average and it happens in every format. Having said that today he bowled a good spell with the 2nd new ball but he's nowhere close to what he was 2 years back. Naseem is injured so no point talking about him but he could've been effective here because he take care of his line n length. Regarding Haris, i won't say much as i don't consider him a Test bowler.

In Pakistan there is no dearth of talent. But once some talented player lands in the national team, they don't know how to groom him. I will be very disappointed if Khurram Shahzad and Aamer Jamal ends up like Muhammad Hasnain. They change the format of their first-class competition every 2-3 years and as a result of that there is no stability. That maybe one of the reasons. And regarding their weakness in Australian pitches, I am surprised as many of these players are used to Australian conditions (they participate in the Big Bash League).
Well, i am not sure about this argument of "dearth of talent" anymore. It seems like more of a coping mechanism to me with a mix of nostalgia.

In my recent memory of the last 7-8 years I am yet to see their bench strength who are consistent enough to call -so called natural talent-. One time wonder for sure but in the long run I don't see anyone. One could call it a failure of management or whatever but it's fucked up situation and not a new phenomenon.

 

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December 15, 2023, 06:05:49 PM
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Indian women made 428 in first inning and England women scored only 136 for all out on Day 2. only Sciver brunt make fifty and what a excellent bowling by indian women team Deepti sharma takes 5 wickets in 6 overs by gave just 7 runs while in 2nd innings Indian women are 186/6 and Day 2 stumps off and captain kaur 44 runs is on the crease while Charlie dean takes 4 wickets and Ind-w is lead by 478 runs. after scoring 500 runs india-w should declared or all out because this will be huge target for Eng-w on remaining sessions and india will single handedly wins the one off test.

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December 15, 2023, 06:17:10 PM
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Indian women made 428 in first inning and England women scored only 136 for all out on Day 2. only Sciver brunt make fifty and what a excellent bowling by indian women team Deepti sharma takes 5 wickets in 6 overs by gave just 7 runs while in 2nd innings Indian women are 186/6 and Day 2 stumps off and captain kaur 44 runs is on the crease while Charlie dean takes 4 wickets and Ind-w is lead by 478 runs. after scoring 500 runs india-w should declared or all out because this will be huge target for Eng-w on remaining sessions and india will single handedly wins the one off test.

Despite losing the T20 series, India Women's performance in the only Test match of the tour impressed everyone. India women's team scored 428 runs in the first innings. This is a huge collection in women's cricket, except for the two openers, almost every batsman in the squad performed well. Also the bowlers have bowled well. Especially Deepti Sharma took 5 wickets. And because of Deepti's brilliant bowling, England's innings stopped at just 136 runs. Indian batsmen are not doing much better in the second innings. Even then India can provide more than 500 targets. And on this pitch England women batting 500+ lakhs in second innings seems impossible to me. India women's team will win the test match despite losing the T20 series.

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December 15, 2023, 11:57:44 PM
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Pakistan team scored a good 132 runs for just 2 wickets on the first day. Because the main reason for playing Test is to protect the wicket and survive for a long time. Then it is definitely possible to compete with any strong team.  I can already see that two wickets have fallen they have already scored good runs. If Imam-ul-Haq can stay patient properly then definitely can fulfill the target of 487 runs given by Australia. As the Pakistan team lost only two wickets on the first day, they are not under much pressure.
You are underestimating the Australian bowling attack. 487 is a long way away which is why I am not expecting Pakistan to give them a lead. They will probably end up trailing them by a decent margin.

Lyon is the man to look out for in my opinion since he can rip apart lineups in a heartbeat.
It will not be possible to give Pakistan a lead but if Pakistan can bat today i.e. the third day then even if there is no lead, the run can become 400. So if Australia bats on the fourth day, then if Pakistan bats on the fifth day, the match is likely to be a draw. Today, Pakistan must bat, otherwise Pakistan will have no chance of a draw in this Test. But Pakistan has already lost two wickets for 132 runs. Although it will be difficult for Pakistan to bat for the three sessions today, Pakistan will have to get through today to draw this Test match.

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December 16, 2023, 03:26:31 AM
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Indian women made 428 in first inning and England women scored only 136 for all out on Day 2. only Sciver brunt make fifty and what a excellent bowling by indian women team Deepti sharma takes 5 wickets in 6 overs by gave just 7 runs while in 2nd innings Indian women are 186/6 and Day 2 stumps off and captain kaur 44 runs is on the crease while Charlie dean takes 4 wickets and Ind-w is lead by 478 runs. after scoring 500 runs india-w should declared or all out because this will be huge target for Eng-w on remaining sessions and india will single handedly wins the one off test.

Despite losing the T20 series, India Women's performance in the only Test match of the tour impressed everyone. India women's team scored 428 runs in the first innings. This is a huge collection in women's cricket, except for the two openers, almost every batsman in the squad performed well. Also the bowlers have bowled well. Especially Deepti Sharma took 5 wickets. And because of Deepti's brilliant bowling, England's innings stopped at just 136 runs. Indian batsmen are not doing much better in the second innings. Even then India can provide more than 500 targets. And on this pitch England women batting 500+ lakhs in second innings seems impossible to me. India women's team will win the test match despite losing the T20 series.
Yes, Indian women have really impressed everyone. Indian women scored 428 runs in the first innings and were all out. Going into bat with a huge lead, England women were bowled out for 136 runs and England women fell far behind. So far in the second innings, India women have scored 186 runs for the loss of 6 wickets. Indian Women lead by 478 runs so far which is enough for India Women to win. I do not see any possibility of this test match being a draw. Because only 2 days of games are over, still 3 days of games are left. Today maybe England women will get a chance to bat, it is not possible for England women to survive in batting until the last day and it is not possible to win by chasing a huge target. India women will win this test.
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December 16, 2023, 03:53:54 AM
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Imam-ul-Haq scored a half-century for 181 in 71 overs in the second day of the Test today in exchange for 4 wickets. However, the number of wickets falling by Pakistan team is seen more. Meanwhile Khurram Shahzad got out with a few runs. He scored just seven runs. If Pakistan can defend the wicket today and stay on the field for a long time then surely they can meet the target. As Imamul Haq is still alive, scoring 59 runs, Imam ul Haq will surely score a century today.

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December 16, 2023, 04:42:26 AM
 #16519

Imam-ul-Haq scored a half-century for 181 in 71 overs in the second day of the Test today in exchange for 4 wickets. However, the number of wickets falling by Pakistan team is seen more. Meanwhile Khurram Shahzad got out with a few runs. He scored just seven runs. If Pakistan can defend the wicket today and stay on the field for a long time then surely they can meet the target. As Imamul Haq is still alive, scoring 59 runs, Imam ul Haq will surely score a century today.
To say the least, I was shocked to see Pakistan play as they had already lost 6 wickets for 203 runs.None of the batsmen of the Pakistan team is batting well, most of them are seen getting out before scoring 10 runs.I was very optimistic about Babar Azam, I thought he might score a century against Australia but it didn't happen.I still have full doubts whether Pakistan will be able to score 300 runs because their trained batsmen are already out.
Pakistan is still 284 runs behind Australia.

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December 16, 2023, 05:17:13 AM
 #16520

Pakistan middle order collapsed on the 3rd day. 6 wickets gone for only 200+ runs, the current situation is bad for Pakistan. They would need 70 more odd runs to avoid follow on and the last known batter they have is Saud Shakeel. If he gets out then Pakistan would be in big trouble. I wasn't expecting Babar Azam to bat so poorly, he only got 21 runs today.

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