Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod]

[Sithara007]

The reason why new bowlers peform well in their initial games is because not much is known about their bowling techniques. Teams like Australia use technology to know in advance about bowling techniques of opponents. Shaheen won't be much useful in this series as necessary work has been done on how to handle him. Pakistan has got decent batting lineup that has experience of playing in Australia. There is still chance of Pakistan bouncing back in this series

I don't have much faith in Shaheen Shah Afridi now. He has been performing quite poorly for the last few years. But the plus point for Pakistan is that Khurram Shahzad and Aamer Jamal, the two debutants bowled exceptionally well during the first test. There are plenty of positives to take away from first test for Pakistan. But the problem for second test is that Shahzad will not be available. In all probability, Shaheen Shah Afridi and Aamer Jamal will open the bowling for Pakistan in the second test. Maybe Hasan Ali will be the third pacer. 

[JSRAW]

I am not sure whether you have watched the first test. Without any doubt, Khurram Shahzad was their best bowler. He got only two wickets in the first innings, but then he didn't had much luck. In the second innings he made up for it by taking 3 wickets. In the end Aamer Jamal was the one who emerged as the top wicket taker for Pakistan, but both him and Shaheen Shah Afridi were wayward at times. Only Shahzad bowled with some sort of discipline. And they are going to miss him sorely in the second match.

The reason why new bowlers peform well in their initial games is because not much is known about their bowling techniques. Teams like Australia use technology to know in advance about bowling techniques of opponents. Shaheen won't be much useful in this series as necessary work has been done on how to handle him.
Pakistan has got decent batting lineup that has experience of playing in Australia. There is still chance of Pakistan bouncing back in this series

Kind of a weird argument, Being new does help, it could also backfire on debutants and there is no guarantee of success or failure. All teams use the same tactics against their opponents. Using footage, analyzing techniques of opponents etc. It even happens in a domestic circuit so it's not restricted to Australia only. 

If Pakistan can't do the same against the Australian team then they have some serious problems and losing/winning/competing is not one of em.

[Sithara007]

Kind of a weird argument, Being new does help, it could also backfire on debutants and there is no guarantee of success or failure. All teams use the same tactics against their opponents. Using footage, analyzing techniques of opponents etc. It even happens in a domestic circuit so it's not restricted to Australia only. 

If Pakistan can't do the same against the Australian team then they have some serious problems and losing/winning/competing is not one of em.

Agreed. Going with an inexperienced pace attack in Australia can easily backfire upon you. However, both Khurram Shahzad and Aamer Jamal bowled really well in the first test. After the initial fireworks from David Warner, they managed to keep Australia under 500 (that itself if a big achievement). From 238/2, Australia ended up at 487 all out. The two experienced bowlers (Shaheen Shah Afridi and Faheem Ashraf) were the weak links in Pakistan attack. The sole spinner (Agha Salman) also went wicketless in the first test. 

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Test match of India Women vs Australia Women team has already started. Australia Women came out to bat now. Scored 27 runs in 6.1 overs. But Australia Women team lost 2 wickets. Phoebe Litchfield was out for 0 runs from 0 balls. Phoebe Litchfield  Ellyse Perry is out for 4 runs from 2 balls. Beth Mooney has scored 8 runs from 23 balls. Tahlia McGrath has scored 24 runs from 17 balls. India Women team has started with a great performance in the bowling line. Today's match is at Wankhede Stadium Mumbai.  It has started.

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Test match of India Women vs Australia Women team has already started. Australia Women came out to bat now. Scored 27 runs in 6.1 overs. But Australia Women team lost 2 wickets. Phoebe Litchfield was out for 0 runs from 0 balls. Phoebe Litchfield  Ellyse Perry is out for 4 runs from 2 balls. Beth Mooney has scored 8 runs from 23 balls. Tahlia McGrath has scored 24 runs from 17 balls. India Women team has started with a great performance in the bowling line. Today's match is at Wankhede Stadium Mumbai.  It has started.

Australia women's team has collected 103 runs for 4 wickets at the moment.Now, however, the lunch break is going on for which the game is stopped for a limited time.
Australia Women's Tahlia McGrath is out after completing her fifty. Australia Women's team still has six wickets in hand, maybe today they can play to their full potential and score 300 plus runs. At the start of the game, I saw the Indian bowlers bowling well and they picked up two Australian wickets in just seven runs.Then gradually the batsmen of the Australian women's team started to get set and started to make runs.

[JSRAW]

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Agreed. Going with an inexperienced pace attack in Australia can easily backfire upon you. However, both Khurram Shahzad and Aamer Jamal bowled really well in the first test.

Now hearing that he's ruled out and going back to Pakistan. He has a decent FC career, which means he has enough overs under his belt so not sure how his body broke after just 1 test and it's not like he was bowling on Pindi's pitch. Very unfortunate for sure.

Pace bowler Khurram Shahzad has been ruled out of the remainder of the Test series in Australia due to a rib stress fracture and abdominal muscle tear.

Shahzad had reported side soreness while bowling on debut in the first Test in Perth and was sent for scans with those revealing the fracture in his left tenth rib

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/khurram-shahzad-ruled-out-of-australia-test-series-1413765

Not a bad start for the Indian W team but it could've been better if Deepti was a little quick at slip and Skipper, spinner and keeper had some experience with the DRS.

[Publictalk792]

Australia women's team has collected 103 runs for 4 wickets at the moment.Now, however, the lunch break is going on for which the game is stopped for a limited time.
Australia Women's Tahlia McGrath is out after completing her fifty. Australia Women's team still has six wickets in hand, maybe today they can play to their full potential and score 300 plus runs. At the start of the game, I saw the Indian bowlers bowling well and they picked up two Australian wickets in just seven runs.Then gradually the batsmen of the Australian women's team started to get set and started to make runs.

According to the current situation the Australian women team now lost 5 wickets. And made 156 runs in 50 overs. The situation is saying that they will not go to 300 runs because they are losing the wicket quickly.
Annabel Sutherland and Ashleigh Gardner are playing at this time and I am looking that they will go to 250 runs. By the way This is only one Test match they have remaining two series ODI and T20I. So the remaining series will show that which team is strong.

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Kind of a weird argument, Being new does help, it could also backfire on debutants and there is no guarantee of success or failure. All teams use the same tactics against their opponents. Using footage, analyzing techniques of opponents etc. It even happens in a domestic circuit so it's not restricted to Australia only. 

If Pakistan can't do the same against the Australian team then they have some serious problems and losing/winning/competing is not one of em.

Agreed. Going with an inexperienced pace attack in Australia can easily backfire upon you. However, both Khurram Shahzad and Aamer Jamal bowled really well in the first test. After the initial fireworks from David Warner, they managed to keep Australia under 500 (that itself if a big achievement). From 238/2, Australia ended up at 487 all out. The two experienced bowlers (Shaheen Shah Afridi and Faheem Ashraf) were the weak links in Pakistan attack. The sole spinner (Agha Salman) also went wicketless in the first test. 

They both were far better than Afridi if compared. They were trying to get a wicket and not bowling for the sake of bowling. Not only that, but they both were bowling a good line and length and in the end they both got rewarded for their effort. I am sure Pakistan will miss Khurram Shahzad in the second test match. They are out of bowlers and I feel this test match is now looking like a practice match for Australia. From 26th the second test will start and we might get the same result as the first match.

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Australia women team vs India women team test match Australia team batting in the first innings. Australia's batsmen's batting performance is not so good due to which India could not score many runs against women's team. Australia Women's team has already lost eight of their crucial wickets on the first day and they may be all out soon. Australia's women's batsmen Alyssa Healy, Beth Mooney, and Tahlia McGrath put in excellent batting performances but could not sustain a partnership after being dismissed, which resulted in a reduced run rate. At the moment Australia women team has collected 194 runs with the loss of eight wickets, India women India women bowled well in today's match, and they might be able to meet the target given by Australia in the second innings and give a huge lead.

[FinePoine0]

Australia women's team batted at the start and collected only 207 runs for nine wickets. The performance of the Australian team in the test game is very bad because in the test game one must survive for a long time. The Australian team has become completely helpless against the bowling of the Indian women's team. Bowling performance was so good by Pooja Vastrakar she picked up 4 wickets alone with 53 runs in 16 overs. Today, the Australian team is very likely to lose all the wickets as they are under heavy wicket pressure on the first day.

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Australia women team vs India women team test match Australia team batting in the first innings. Australia's batsmen's batting performance is not so good due to which India could not score many runs against women's team. Australia Women's team has already lost eight of their crucial wickets on the first day and they may be all out soon. Australia's women's batsmen Alyssa Healy, Beth Mooney, and Tahlia McGrath put in excellent batting performances but could not sustain a partnership after being dismissed, which resulted in a reduced run rate. At the moment Australia women team has collected 194 runs with the loss of eight wickets, India women India women bowled well in today's match, and they might be able to meet the target given by Australia in the second innings and give a huge lead.

Currently, Australia women are all out, and Indian batters are looking good with no loss in cricket. They have a pretty good run rate as well scoring 42 runs in 6.3 overs. Shafali Verma and Smriti Mandhana are looking good and they may achieve a good total.

It can be said that India won on the first day of the test. The Australian bowlers need to show their magic to get back on the front foot. Lauren Cheatle and Kim Garth can't seem to be bothering the Indian batters now as they are scoring runs easily. If I had to predict the end result I think India would win it. But it's test cricket and the best format of the cricket game, and each team has 4 more days to come back in the game.

[Publictalk792]

Australia women's team batted at the start and collected only 207 runs for nine wickets. The performance of the Australian team in the test game is very bad because in the test game one must survive for a long time. The Australian team has become completely helpless against the bowling of the Indian women's team. Bowling performance was so good by Pooja Vastrakar she picked up 4 wickets alone with 53 runs in 16 overs. Today, the Australian team is very likely to lose all the wickets as they are under heavy wicket pressure on the first day.

I was thinking that they will hardly to reach 250 runs and now they made only 219 runs. And now India has started their batting and they are going really well in batting Smriti Mandhana and Shafali Verma are playing at this time and they have made 77 runs partnership and still they are playing. India didn't lose a single wicket. If they will continue this performance so I think they will give 150 runs lead to Australian team. India is still looking better as compare to Australia team. And I think India will win this test match. The situation is saying I might be wrong.

[hafiztalha]

Australia women team vs India women team test match Australia team batting in the first innings. Australia's batsmen's batting performance is not so good due to which India could not score many runs against women's team. Australia Women's team has already lost eight of their crucial wickets on the first day and they may be all out soon. Australia's women's batsmen Alyssa Healy, Beth Mooney, and Tahlia McGrath put in excellent batting performances but could not sustain a partnership after being dismissed, which resulted in a reduced run rate. At the moment Australia women team has collected 194 runs with the loss of eight wickets, India women India women bowled well in today's match, and they might be able to meet the target given by Australia in the second innings and give a huge lead.

1 day of this series Women International and this series was played between India-W team and Australia-W team. Australia team won opportunity for chose bat or bowl first and they took bat first in field. This game was held on Wankhede Stadium and effort of Australia team in batting lineup was not brilliant and entire team was dismissed. Australia-W team set 219 runs target in 77.4 overs by all wickets gone. India-W team chased down 98 target and 121 runs were are trail now. S. Verma wicket was dismissed and he catched up by J.Jonassen bowler and she scored 40 runs in 59 balls and she hitted eight 4s. India-W team lost only one wickets and these S. Rana and S. Mandhana are still batting on pitch, S. Rana scored only 4 runs with one 4s and S. Mandhana scored 43 runs with eight 4s in 49 balls.

[Sithara007]

Now hearing that he's ruled out and going back to Pakistan. He has a decent FC career, which means he has enough overs under his belt so not sure how his body broke after just 1 test and it's not like he was bowling on Pindi's pitch. Very unfortunate for sure.

Well... the workload was very heavy during the first test, after David Warner went berserk. And also, before the test match Khurram Shahzad had played in the tour match against the Australian Prime Minister's XI. He bowled a total of 23 overs in that match. So effectively he broke down after playing two tests. Still it is suspect. Perhaps he carried a minor injury to the first test and the heavy load meant that it got worse. Anyway disaster awaits for Pakistan in the second test, if they are planning to include Hasan Ali in the squad. 

[JSRAW]

Now hearing that he's ruled out and going back to Pakistan. He has a decent FC career, which means he has enough overs under his belt so not sure how his body broke after just 1 test and it's not like he was bowling on Pindi's pitch. Very unfortunate for sure.

Well... the workload was very heavy during the first test, after David Warner went berserk. And also, before the test match Khurram Shahzad had played in the tour match against the Australian Prime Minister's XI. He bowled a total of 23 overs in that match. So effectively he broke down after playing two tests. Still it is suspect. Perhaps he carried a minor injury to the first test and the heavy load meant that it got worse. Anyway disaster awaits for Pakistan in the second test, if they are planning to include Hasan Ali in the squad. 

If Khurram was carrying a minor injury then it's painfully hilarious and tells you more about the sorry state of PCB. That's how they broke their bowler's backs, which happened with Ali, Shaheen, Rauf, Naseem and now the poor debutant.

I just hope he gets proper treatment and PCB serious about his fitness otherwise he'll fade away. I like Hasan Ali, yeah he sometimes gets off the road with his bowling but very spirited cricketer.
 

[Essential10]

Australia women's team batted at the start and collected only 207 runs for nine wickets. The performance of the Australian team in the test game is very bad because in the test game one must survive for a long time. The Australian team has become completely helpless against the bowling of the Indian women's team. Bowling performance was so good by Pooja Vastrakar she picked up 4 wickets alone with 53 runs in 16 overs. Today, the Australian team is very likely to lose all the wickets as they are under heavy wicket pressure on the first day.

In the only Test between the two teams, the Australian women's team was 219 all out on the first day. The Indian women's team has shown an excellent bowling line-up. Pooja vastrakar & Senh rana both played a big role for the 7 wicket team. Meanwhile, the Indian women's team ended the day with 98 runs for one wicket and trailed the Australian women's team by 121 runs. Australia women's team did not use spinner bowlers early on which gave Indian women's team an advantage to score early runs. India will be satisfied with their efforts so far, but Australia still have a chance to bounce back with a strong performance. Whether Australia Women can turn the game around on day two will depend on how the match unfolds in the coming days.

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I just hope he gets proper treatment and PCB serious about his fitness otherwise he'll fade away. I like Hasan Ali, yeah he sometimes gets off the road with his bowling but very spirited cricketer.
 

Considering how PCB allowed Naseem Shah to play in league cricket then dragging him to play for the team, shows how serious PCB has been for its players. Knowingly they make these guys suffer, don't expect something good from them, they haven't been able to schedule a fitness test for the players. All crucial players are either injured or are out of form and playing five day test requires a lot of energy and patience. I don't think they have players who can cope up with test format.

[Sithara007]

Considering how PCB allowed Naseem Shah to play in league cricket then dragging him to play for the team, shows how serious PCB has been for its players. Knowingly they make these guys suffer, don't expect something good from them, they haven't been able to schedule a fitness test for the players. All crucial players are either injured or are out of form and playing five day test requires a lot of energy and patience. I don't think they have players who can cope up with test format.

Teams like India and Australia have separate squads for both test and limited overs cricket. But in case of Pakistan, they don't have the player depth to attempt anything like this. And that automatically puts additional workload on the players. Shaheen Shah Afridi and Naseem Shah are regulars in both test and limited overs format. And their frequent injury woes can be blamed on this. Only solution is to increase the player pool. But in order to do that, they need to improve the quality of domestic cricket in Pakistan.

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Considering how PCB allowed Naseem Shah to play in league cricket then dragging him to play for the team, shows how serious PCB has been for its players. Knowingly they make these guys suffer, don't expect something good from them, they haven't been able to schedule a fitness test for the players. All crucial players are either injured or are out of form and playing five day test requires a lot of energy and patience. I don't think they have players who can cope up with test format.

Teams like India and Australia have separate squads for both test and limited overs cricket. But in case of Pakistan, they don't have the player depth to attempt anything like this. And that automatically puts additional workload on the players. Shaheen Shah Afridi and Naseem Shah are regulars in both test and limited overs format. And their frequent injury woes can be blamed on this. Only solution is to increase the player pool. But in order to do that, they need to improve the quality of domestic cricket in Pakistan.

I doubt they would be able to increase the talent pool. Too much corruption and favourism has become a normal thing with PCB. The other issue is that they only try to find or get players from only one province, while other province are not touched. There are many issues still PCB and the government of Pakistan need to rethink thier ways to find talents in cricket. Otherwise they would end up like the Westindies.

[WatChe]

Teams like India and Australia have separate squads for both test and limited overs cricket. But in case of Pakistan, they don't have the player depth to attempt anything like this. And that automatically puts additional workload on the players. Shaheen Shah Afridi and Naseem Shah are regulars in both test and limited overs format. And their frequent injury woes can be blamed on this. Only solution is to increase the player pool. But in order to do that, they need to improve the quality of domestic cricket in Pakistan.

Pakistan has a huge domestic setup and its not a big deal to extract few fast bowlers. PCB is more interested in T20 then test or ODI. Mostly Pakistan is busy playing T20 and whenever there is test series they failed miserably. Few days of criticism and then everything is normal in PCB. Fitness is a concern for Pakistani fast bowlers these days. Its high time for PCB to decide what there strategy will be for Test and ODI. Boxing day test is coming up and Khurram Shahzad is likely to miss that match due to injury.